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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

I analyze my bets but if I just want to have it placed, I'll do the necessary and what I just do and think of it is to bet whatever I want to. It's true that we have to analyze and seek ways to succeed with our bets. But it's hard to knock on those wins even if you do so, luck is still needed with sports betting, trust me that even you're the best analyzer of games before you place sports bet, you'll still have a lot of losses to make. Betting against the public is what I do sometimes when I think the odds are quite good, it's not something that everyone should at most times but you have to take on that gamble when you have to.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

Winning or losing in sports betting or gambling depends on luck. No matter how good a gambler's analysis, he can never beat luck. That's why you have to wait for luck in every bet. Rather, I can say that those who take up gambling as fun have the opportunity to analyze accurately without any pressure which is not possible for other gamblers. If good analysis resulted in gambling, then analysis would be more important than luck. A gambler needs to rely on luck along with good analysis otherwise gambling is unlikely to be successful. In many cases, a gambler is told that the more study he is in gambling, the more likely he is to lose.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

Since gamble is a game of luck i don't think betting same option with the public really makes any difference besides, the option you picked could be the wrong one. Based on your prediction if you arrive at any option that should be your pick, if doesn't really matter if its a popular option or not. However I've experienced gamblers making huge win from making their bets off public popular options. I believe irrespective of the option, if luck is on your side then you'll definitely win the bet, provided you also made some good picks. Though even the unexpected happens.

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Quote from: retreat on October 29, 2024, 01:30:15 AM

Most people may tend to gamble following the public, but there are also those who gamble based on their own beliefs or rely on their luck against the public - and I am that type. Because in my opinion when someone bets it should be based on what they believe, not what other people say. I'm not saying that someone doesn't need to see what the public is betting on, but don't rely too much on it, just make it a reference, and bet based on what we believe, because even if we lose at least we lose with our own analysis and we can use it as a lesson to bet better in the future.

I am also a gambler who bets based on personal analysis without following the flow or following most other people. Because that's where the satisfaction and pleasure in gambling lies, even though we lose we feel satisfied because of the results of our own analysis. But that doesn't mean we deny that many people's analysis is also, it is also a reference for us to hold on to before analyzing the team we want to bet on.

In essence, gambling is for fun, especially if we bet on a match that we like or a favorite team, of course if we analyze it ourselves, the results, whether winning or losing, we feel satisfied with what we get. So we have to be sure of our own analysis, because in my opinion gambling is not only about luck but also must have a strategy and must think so that we get satisfaction in gambling.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

Betting against the public or simply trying out to bet into those underdogs isnt really that effective all the time. Yes, there are really that indeed games on which it ends up on upset but we do know that there's no way that you could precisely be able to tell on which games will really be ending up on this kind outcome. This is why its called gambling in the first place because you do risks up something for you to be able to obtain something on which its really that involving up such risks on which you will really be needing to search up or choose on which one is a viable option for you to take. It will really be that up to you on how you would gonna do it and its up to you on how you would be making out some research into specific information on which it will really be that relevant into your bet.

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I believe it still depends on how you approach betting because you could have different strategies and risk management skills and be successful with both of them. Just because you are going against the public doesn’t mean that they would win. It could be an upset, and that may be the underdog story in your particular sport or something.

As long as you do risk management, I believe you can make sure that you will be in a positive run in the long term.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

Many times you can win from sports betting because many matches can be predicted for sure but no one can guarantee the win of any match because sometimes some unbelievable things happen. Like recently a match in La Liga where Real Madrid lost the match with Barcelona by 0-4 goals. It was an absolutely incredible match. So here everyone who bet on Real Madrid lost their bet. So no one can guarantee their regular winning in any sector of gambling. so for gambling you have to accept such risk and bet.

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Quote from: Odohu on October 29, 2024, 01:03:54 PM

I will defer on this a little because if the public is always right then many casinos would have folded. There have been several instances where the public bet on a match and it goes the other way. I still remember when the whole world bet Liverpool to win Nottingham Forest at Anfield but we it turned out that the opposite happened which means that the public is not always right.

Yeah and that's the very reason why we are in gambling right? There's no assurance that heavy favorite will always win the game and just same with your opinion if so, then casino will be ruined as bettors will continue to win and that's impossible to happen, the business was made to generate profits and not to a milking cow for the gamblers, there are always a big risk and the bigger you take the better odds that you'll be making.

Underdog always have that chance to upset and to adds up to the twist there's also a possibility of manipulation that may give the underdog a huge a advantage to win.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

Betting against popular opinions might bring big wins. In sports gambling betting on a perceived weak team might be seen as betting against the public but it might be the smart choice. If you are lucky and this low-rated club wins, it usually has high odds which means big wins.

For me, success in betting is when you get entertained. Recovering losses or gaining profit is just an additional benefit. You seem to have a correct perspective about people who gamble for fun and those who pursue money. Those who see gambling as a source of income are well-grounded in the betting business.

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I will defer on this a little because if the public is always right then many casinos would have folded. There have been several instances where the public bet on a match and it goes the other way. I still remember when the whole world bet Liverpool to win Nottingham Forest at Anfield but we it turned out that the opposite happened which means that the public is not always right. As long as it is a live sports, nothing is guaranteed.

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Don't bet against the public depends on the type of game it was, and how your mind accepts the game. However, there are games that you would have; you would go with what your mind tells you, not what the public gave as a result of the bets. Many times, we have seen some games that would have gone as predicted, but before the last whistle, the game turned around to go against what the public had predicted, making many lose their bets because of what they thought the game to be in favor of the strong team, turned around to be in favor of the weak team.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

I have a question mate ? Who bets and have the intention to fail? Well I believe nobody even if you are betting for fun or like in this case betting against the small odd which is supposedly favorite, everyone who thought of placing a bet have probably had it his mind that there is a possibility for him to win and that's why he bets on the side he prefers although I understand the fact that majority of gamblers actually bet in line with the preferred or supposed odd that is bound to win but most even the undergo get a slice of victory and that's what makes the game interesting.

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Most times, public opinion is always influenced by the bookies they feed the public with what they want them to believe and the option they want them to place their bet on, which is why I don't base my gambling decision on the people's choice but on my own analysis, which could either focus on my instincts and past history against my choice of teams and not on what the public thinks.

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What kind of success do you mean, please give me an example. plus, how many long-term gamblers can be successful with their bets. unfortunately, I don't have that data. I am the type of bettor who bets according to desire, mood and the team that will compete. but, not in long-term mode. the problem is, it is not easy to achieve consistency as you suggest. besides, in sports there is no certain prediction whatever it is. whether we do not bet against the public, or, vice versa and of course there is no guarantee for that. another point, why should we bet against ourselves. for those of us who really understand research and analysis, no matter the favorite team that competes, all of that must go through the research and analysis stage. ignore first that it is a favorite team, research without involving emotions. after that, then consider the options in betting. sports or football, are not easy for us to interpret. in order to achieve success from sports, it means that all aspects need to be met. be it knowledge, broad insight and also a healthy bankroll. if you are a small bettor, once you lose then it's over. as a result, make a deposit again.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

You are wrong, many gamblers interest is the fun part and this still drives their love for gambling, just because they are doing it for fun doesn't mean they are limited in the interest part, that's so wrong.

I don't do video games for scores and perks like many gamers do, I do gaming for other reasons like been addicted to a protagonist or just the game sound track, I can remember singing sonic game soundtrack every now and then when Sega era was still a thing, I never beat the game but I can play the first world many rounds just to sing along the sound track.

I do slosts games too, and there are few I like simply because of their soundtrack, we all have different reasons why we do something, making money from gambling isn't a taboo for me but I like the fun part more and this won't limit my love for gambling in anyway.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on October 29, 2024, 11:21:54 AM

Of course you can bet against the public that is the fan favorites. I think the playing conditions, stadium, and weather matter a lot, along with the players playing. If it’s cricket, then the type of pitch, the wind direction, and the playing squad depend a lot on the match outcomes. Not every time the star player can score goals or score runs. Hence, it’s ideal to wait and observe, or if possible, do some ground-level research and place the bets. After all, it’s your hard-earned money that will be put on stake. Hence, think wisely before betting for the fan favorites.

Although I don't gamble much, I am rarely involved in gambling. But when I gamble sometimes I play with a bit of certainty. We have to accept that there is no guaranteed outcome in gambling. But with experience we can increase the winning percentage. I usually watch cricket from a very young age and have enough knowledge about cricket. It is possible to predict the performance of the players or the team according to the field conditions. That's why when I bet on cricket, there are more chances of winning the bet. Sometimes my decisions are against the public. I find it rewarding to prioritize my own decisions rather than those of the majority, regardless of the outcome.

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Quote from: Blowon on October 29, 2024, 10:56:50 AM

against the public what are you talking about? is it a physical casino? how many are successful from soccer betting gambling? it is difficult to understand there is no control over the match, what we can see is the skill of the club's players

I was also finding it hard to understand what kind of bet the ops is talking about, because betting against the public is not a known form of betting to many of us, and unless if the ops is talking about betting against the public opinion which means so betting against the odds, let say if a game carries higher odds like 4.00 against it opponent which odds will be around 2:00 odds, this is why it difficult for us to decide which public he is talking about.

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Betting against the public is sometimes a smart choice though. It all depends on the payout odds.

If you see Manchester City vs Chelsea have odds of something like 1.05 vs 5.00 for instance, it will be obvious that most people bet in favor of Manchester City either because they like the team or because they genuinely think the team is going to keep dominating this season.

But the issue here largely is that if the public is pushing odds to be like this, it might be worth a shot. For instance, Chelsea is a good team. Surely they aren't in their best season now but they could surely win again against Man City. So a 5x multiplier is too good not to take.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 29, 2024, 01:51:24 AM

Quote from: retreat on October 29, 2024, 01:30:15 AM

Most people may tend to gamble following the public, but there are also those who gamble based on their own beliefs or rely on their luck against the public - and I am that type. Because in my opinion when someone bets it should be based on what they believe, not what other people say. I'm not saying that someone doesn't need to see what the public is betting on, but don't rely too much on it, just make it a reference, and bet based on what we believe, because even if we lose at least we lose with our own analysis and we can use it as a lesson to bet better in the future.

The concept of betting against the public means betting against the majority. If you’re part of that majority, then someone is betting against you. Betting experts encourage this strategy because the public often makes poor decisions based on emotion rather than analytical thinking. This can create opportunities for savvy bettors who are willing to go against the crowd.

Yes you are talking about the majority of people who gamble and make decisions impulsively based on emotions or ignorance of how to make the right decisions that are more likely to win, meaning they are probably gamblers who are involved in a type of game of skill without any knowledge or simply they treat the activity of skill like a gambling activity that relies on luck and that is not the right approach.

Sports is a skill-based bet which means when you have the knowledge to analyze both teams that will compete to know which team is more likely to win then the chances of winning will also be closer, meaning regardless of whether you are betting against the public or anyone else, betting based on knowledge in analyzing a team to make decisions that have a high chance of winning is indeed the right way and is always recommended if sports betting is your choice.

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I thought the same thing as you after seeing the subject of the post. I thought he was speaking for the people instead of against the people. But I think betters must learn to predict well in advance. Better random predictions because when a bet is made you see two sides forming nicely with a draw for both sides. Then you have to pick which one wins. Will be Predictions become much easier for those who can compare well before betting to win.

But I think that betting is completely dependent on one's self, when one bets, he analysis himself, bets by his own understanding, without looking at what others have said, by getting information, he takes a decision on which team he bets on, it is his personal matter. When it comes to betting, I feel that even if we lose the bet based on our own opinion, we feel good about ourselves, but if we make a bet through others, if we lose, then it is seen that there is a lot of talk about it, so I feel that it is better to bet. It is better to hear. Although no one can predict which team will win but everyone analysis and bets in favor of one team.

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