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November 13, 2024, 02:11:51 AM
No accurate prediction even how deep your knowledge and how deal with all the analysis and research in terms of gambling nothing is for sure, like you mentioned you can go and bet with the public or you can go ahead and bet against the public, it's more on your own assessment and how you think you analyze everything, what is important, you did your own research and you use the amount that you are willing to let just in case the result is against you.
Yes, you are right because we can only analyze and predicts which team that can wins without knowing if that team can really wins against the opponent. That will depends on your analysis and if your analysis say that you can bet against the public, you can follows that or vice versa. The important thing is you know what you needs to do and if you really wants to place a bet, you know that will have risk so you will not risks too much money in betting. That will helps you to reduces the risks of losing your money but you can enjoy your betting.

Well said, no one can constantly be very accurate with their predictions, sometimes one can be right on several occasions and it may seem as though you're getting it clear or have unlocked the key to successful gambling but just one game or several loses after multiple streaks of winning would just get you humbled, I've seen people one the media who call themselves gambling experts, Lords of sports betting get humbled by a single bet. Sometimes betting against the public pays, though it doesn't happen very often cause bigger teams would always be superior to underdogs in the eyes of the bookies and the public would always bet on teams that are the favourites to win based on their odds, form and quality of players compared to  their opponents but I've seen cases where betting against the public payed off for instance in the EPL week 11, Manchester City where clear favourites but they lost to Brighton, likewise Tottenham losing to a buttom league team Ipswich Town, I bet the public picked Manchester City and Tottenham to win those matches but those few people who defiled the odds and bet against the public in those matches won.
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November 13, 2024, 01:48:58 AM

Knowing the capabilities of the team/player that you'll be going to support always gives you decent idea if what might be the possible edge either they are the heavy favorite or they are the underdog.
Of course, but there are also people who deliberately choose team that are not favorites and are weaker for larger odds number but they manage to win the bet, whether this is kind of luck or match result that has been arranged from the start, but what is clear is that many incidents like this have occurred in recent times.
I have experienced many defeats with several favorite team and that is what has become belief for me to be more careful with betting choices, no matter how good someone makes predictions and analysis, there must also be chance of failure.
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November 13, 2024, 01:29:43 AM
No accurate prediction even how deep your knowledge and how deal with all the analysis and research in terms of gambling nothing is for sure, like you mentioned you can go and bet with the public or you can go ahead and bet against the public, it's more on your own assessment and how you think you analyze everything, what is important, you did your own research and you use the amount that you are willing to let just in case the result is against you.
Yes, you are right because we can only analyze and predicts which team that can wins without knowing if that team can really wins against the opponent. That will depends on your analysis and if your analysis say that you can bet against the public, you can follows that or vice versa. The important thing is you know what you needs to do and if you really wants to place a bet, you know that will have risk so you will not risks too much money in betting. That will helps you to reduces the risks of losing your money but you can enjoy your betting.
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November 12, 2024, 08:26:45 AM

I agree, you'd only determine whether you did the right thing to go against the crowd favorite or not, once the game is over. Just because majority is in favor of a particular team, doesn't mean it will guarantee winning unless it is obvious perhaps the opponent's team is at disadvantage in terms of player match up. Much better to place a bet not considering whether to oppose the crowd favorite or to go along with them, but to choose depending on your analysis about the match. Everything will still fall under your luck but atleast you could minimize the risk of losing if you know your actions. Consider checking on statistics of the team or a player or if superstars are present during the game if it is a team sports. Or if you're being unsure of the possible outcome, just sit and enjoy watching. I do skip some games than to suffer from huge loss in order to avoid stress as well.

Good point, if you are unsure better to skip and enjoy watching the game, not unless that you have that confidence inside you then putting some spare to adds up with your enjoyment while watching and supporting the game. It's always wise to bet with games you fully understand and not just relying with luck but also have some basis when placing your bets.

Knowing the capabilities of the team/player that you'll be going to support always gives you decent idea if what might be the possible edge either they are the heavy favorite or they are the underdog.
Although there are always elements in the crowd that create excitement and disturb the crowd, but when the statistics show that the crowd is leaning towards the opposite side of our calculations, there is a high possibility that we are making a mistake in our prediction ability or more precisely, bigotry is against the crowd, many people often do not like to admit the common point of view and create their own point of view to have a difference in order to try not to lose face. Therefore, when there is no such coincidence, it is better to stay on the sidelines so as not to take the bitterness and only participate when there is more balanced basis.
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November 12, 2024, 07:35:50 AM

I agree, you'd only determine whether you did the right thing to go against the crowd favorite or not, once the game is over. Just because majority is in favor of a particular team, doesn't mean it will guarantee winning unless it is obvious perhaps the opponent's team is at disadvantage in terms of player match up. Much better to place a bet not considering whether to oppose the crowd favorite or to go along with them, but to choose depending on your analysis about the match. Everything will still fall under your luck but atleast you could minimize the risk of losing if you know your actions. Consider checking on statistics of the team or a player or if superstars are present during the game if it is a team sports. Or if you're being unsure of the possible outcome, just sit and enjoy watching. I do skip some games than to suffer from huge loss in order to avoid stress as well.

Good point, if you are unsure better to skip and enjoy watching the game, not unless that you have that confidence inside you then putting some spare to adds up with your enjoyment while watching and supporting the game. It's always wise to bet with games you fully understand and not just relying with luck but also have some basis when placing your bets.

Knowing the capabilities of the team/player that you'll be going to support always gives you decent idea if what might be the possible edge either they are the heavy favorite or they are the underdog.
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November 11, 2024, 07:53:55 AM
The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.
Well, succeeding in sports betting has nothing to do with who or the group a betttor is betting against, but has everything to do with personal choices and decisions. It might interest you to know that when it comes to betting on sports, even the public arent and can't always be right, use the 2022 world cup as an example, when Argentina played against Saudi Arabia, majority  put their bet on Argentina, but later on, Saudi Arabia won that match by 1 goal to nothing, those who for some reasons, betted for Saudi Arabia made a good amount of money as profit for their bet.

So, in the nutshell, it's better to carry out a good research and analysis, place your bet on who you think will win the match, and don't bet on a team because it's the favorite of the majority, for like I said before, at times, even the majority can be wrong.
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November 11, 2024, 07:41:48 AM
For me, it still depends. Success or winnings will not rely on betting against the public or going with them together.

Especially if you are in sports betting, some are using analytics to decide which team or player to bet on even if it's a crowd favorite, sometimes situational betting is good for this because it involves some conditions that may make crowd favorites more likely to cover.


What I have seen to be a boost to our betting is being a member of some really good channels or websites that deal exclusively with that, sport betting. They can be used as a measurement tool to gauge our type of betting and take actions based on that. I don't fully agree with this approach though as if everyone thinks Inter team will win a certain game they may still lose, so take the data and statistics with caution before going against or like the public.
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November 11, 2024, 07:13:56 AM
Long term betting or short term betting are two completely different things. Whether you bet long-term or short-term depends entirely on your conscience. You will achieve success in betting, there is no specific reason and it can be seen that you are able to earn a good profit due to various analytical reasons. I think short term anything is volatile so you have a better chance of succeeding or making more profit with long term bets.

These are two different things, but if you really want to see if you can make money in sports betting, it should be based on long-term results. I think a lot of people claim they’re profitable, sharing their big winning slips, but they don’t really show their full track record because they know it doesn’t add up. If it’s true that only 1% of sports bettors are actually successful, well, at least we’ve still got a shot, right?

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Betting success depends on various factors as well as our own constructive planning.
That's why it's long term because we "plan" for our future.
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November 11, 2024, 06:36:28 AM
The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.
Betting success depends on several things. It doesn't matter whether it is against the public or not. And I think where analyse can fail how to depends on other factors. There is no reason to depend on any other factor to get success and it is not possible to get any success by depending on any types of factor.
Long term betting or short term betting are two completely different things. Whether you bet long-term or short-term depends entirely on your conscience. You will achieve success in betting, there is no specific reason and it can be seen that you are able to earn a good profit due to various analytical reasons. I think short term anything is volatile so you have a better chance of succeeding or making more profit with long term bets.

Betting success depends on various factors as well as our own constructive planning.

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November 11, 2024, 04:23:45 AM
I think regardless of whether you bet against the public or with other options the most important thing is one thing that understand the dangers that always lurk you at all times, because in any case defeat will always be part of the game, but I also agree with you that most likely the gamblers who are able to control themselves and their emotions are those who are already experienced enough because of course they have gone through various situations and maybe make it a lesson so they can be better as a gambler.
Regardless of any gambler's experience, everyone has different approach to auditory, vision and sensational actions. When the public are on the side of a team, they consist of both the experts and the newbies. Only a player who doesn't get moved or respond to things he's heard others say about the game would follow his decisions. Other than that, experience helps but in most vital cases state of mind controls how money is wagered on a game.
Experienced mostly the basis even gambler take side against the public with how they manage to experienced the outcome they will insist on that position hoping that both luck and the knowledge will help them to win, like what you said, there are different approachand there are different perspectives in terms of placing your bets.

Sports gambling consist of different understanding either you pick side thinking that the favorite will lessen the chance of losing or you are aiming for bigger percentage of winning, all up to your own decision and how you view the possible outcome.
That is normal when a gambler take side against the public because they think realistic about what they will pick. If they see public choose the team, they will analyze first before they join with public. But they must still remember that public can not always win so they must not use too big money even if the public believes they can win.

No one will know what will be the result so when we can be wise treating gambling as an entertainment, we can prevents the big lose. They don't have to think about other people because they must responsible to themselves and always avoids the big lose. That is why they must control themselves and not in rush to take side against the public before they analyze first and thinks much.

No accurate prediction even how deep your knowledge and how deal with all the analysis and research in terms of gambling nothing is for sure, like you mentioned you can go and bet with the public or you can go ahead and bet against the public, it's more on your own assessment and how you think you analyze everything, what is important, you did your own research and you use the amount that you are willing to let just in case the result is against you.
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November 09, 2024, 10:16:10 AM
The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.
Betting success depends on several things. It doesn't matter whether it is against the public or not. And I think where analyse can fail how to depends on other factors. There is no reason to depend on any other factor to get success and it is not possible to get any success by depending on any types of factor.
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November 07, 2024, 08:45:00 AM
The legality of a player betting against themselves depends on a number of factors, including the governing rules of the sport the specific circumstances of the bet. Yes, experience is the most effective in any gambling field whether it is public or betting on other teams. Gambling always involves luck in winning that's why you need to know the harmful aspects of gambling. Controlling emotions is most important here. Most gamblers cannot control their emotions so they suffer from all aspects.

This might help some of us here understood what's the meaning of betting against the public.

https://www.oddsshark.com/sports-betting/betting-against-public

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How to Bet Against The Public
Of course, you can’t bet against the public without knowing what the public is betting. Below are suggestions for how to get a sense of which side the majority of people are betting. As you begin to study public betting habits, you’ll start to notice some tendencies. For instance, the public is notorious for betting “overs” more often than “unders.” The public also tends to bet favorites far more often than they bet underdogs.

Recency bias is prevalent with public bettors and causes them to overvalue a recent performance within the context of an entire season. For instance, if the Cowboys are 10-2, but coming off a terrible Monday Night Football performance, public bettors are more likely to shy away from Dallas while professional bettors often won’t hesitate to bet Dallas despite the bad performance.
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It’s not about legality; it’s about how things are perceived and acted on. In short, it's part of our analysis when betting on a sport.
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November 07, 2024, 07:37:30 AM
I think regardless of whether you bet against the public or with other options the most important thing is one thing that understand the dangers that always lurk you at all times, because in any case defeat will always be part of the game, but I also agree with you that most likely the gamblers who are able to control themselves and their emotions are those who are already experienced enough because of course they have gone through various situations and maybe make it a lesson so they can be better as a gambler.


Regardless of any gambler's experience, everyone has different approach to auditory, vision and sensational actions. When the public are on the side of a team, they consist of both the experts and the newbies. Only a player who doesn't get moved or respond to things he's heard others say about the game would follow his decisions. Other than that, experience helps but in most vital cases state of mind controls how money is wagered on a game.
The legality of a player betting against themselves depends on a number of factors, including the governing rules of the sport the specific circumstances of the bet. Yes, experience is the most effective in any gambling field whether it is public or betting on other teams. Gambling always involves luck in winning that's why you need to know the harmful aspects of gambling. Controlling emotions is most important here. Most gamblers cannot control their emotions so they suffer from all aspects.
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November 07, 2024, 06:00:11 AM
I think regardless of whether you bet against the public or with other options the most important thing is one thing that understand the dangers that always lurk you at all times, because in any case defeat will always be part of the game, but I also agree with you that most likely the gamblers who are able to control themselves and their emotions are those who are already experienced enough because of course they have gone through various situations and maybe make it a lesson so they can be better as a gambler.
Regardless of any gambler's experience, everyone has different approach to auditory, vision and sensational actions. When the public are on the side of a team, they consist of both the experts and the newbies. Only a player who doesn't get moved or respond to things he's heard others say about the game would follow his decisions. Other than that, experience helps but in most vital cases state of mind controls how money is wagered on a game.
Experienced mostly the basis even gambler take side against the public with how they manage to experienced the outcome they will insist on that position hoping that both luck and the knowledge will help them to win, like what you said, there are different approachand there are different perspectives in terms of placing your bets.

Sports gambling consist of different understanding either you pick side thinking that the favorite will lessen the chance of losing or you are aiming for bigger percentage of winning, all up to your own decision and how you view the possible outcome.
That is normal when a gambler take side against the public because they think realistic about what they will pick. If they see public choose the team, they will analyze first before they join with public. But they must still remember that public can not always win so they must not use too big money even if the public believes they can win.

No one will know what will be the result so when we can be wise treating gambling as an entertainment, we can prevents the big lose. They don't have to think about other people because they must responsible to themselves and always avoids the big lose. That is why they must control themselves and not in rush to take side against the public before they analyze first and thinks much.
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November 07, 2024, 03:40:17 AM
Well, exactly, I agree with what you said and I think that's what gambling is like, in the sense that it doesn't matter even if you bet by choosing a team that is much stronger in general in terms of statistics, it doesn't mean that at the end of the match they will win, or it can also be said that even if you bet against a weaker team, there is also a possibility for the team you bet on to win.
Remember one thing that there is always a time for unexpected things to happen and it is really proven on the field such as teams that statistically make unnecessary mistakes or like when they lose several players due to red cards which makes the game unbalanced.

That's why I will agree with your opinion that in any type of gambling there is still no way that can guarantee 100% victory, meaning that victory is still a chance and defeat becomes a part that cannot always be separated from it. Overall, yes, most likely the public will make the superior team the choice, but that doesn't mean it is the right choice to achieve victory.

A defeat is possible even without visible force majeure like a red card, remember the recent losses of Real and City in the Champions League, I would never have thought that they were capable of such a loss, I suppose that most of the players who placed bets that evening thought so. So yes, surprises happen quite often, you can try to guess where it can happen, but I do not like this approach, and in my understanding, playing against the crowd is exactly looking for some such sensational games.
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November 07, 2024, 01:59:06 AM
Sports gambling consist of different understanding either you pick side thinking that the favorite will lessen the chance of losing or you are aiming for bigger percentage of winning, all up to your own decision and how you view the possible outcome.

Are we supposed to care what the public thinks when betting, we are there to try and make out bets to be the correct one therefore if betting against the popular choice is what we think will be the best option, that is what we are supposed to go for. In the champions league lately, teams that we did not think can win are the ones winning and it has been happening too in other competitions. We do not have to think that the best teams are going to win always. At times the teams with less chances of winning, suprise everybody and defeats the stronger team and if you had bet on them to win, you get to win big payout. We should be following our instincts and not what the public are thinking. When gambling, there is no guarantee anywhere and everything that we are doing is a guess.
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November 06, 2024, 11:42:39 PM
Having in mind that no game is a sure game makes gambling to be of the mind and not of public opinion, because regardless of the level of the support the public may have on a team, it can never aid them to win a game that their poorly played, so for a gambler what we have to know is that, there will be a time when we leave the public behind and focus more on our own inner believe and convictions.


Having the mindset of what gambling really is which is risk and luck, helps us alot as both spectators and gambler's, even player's also need such mindset to build inner confidence.

I agree with what you said, indeed there are many things that can be our own considerations when we are going to gamble, but sometimes we have to trust our own choices and instincts because believing in what is out there does not make it easy for us to win at gambling. Moreover, in my opinion, focusing on one's own beliefs is not much different from believing in the many news outside, but for people who are looking for profit in gambling, they are more likely to believe in things that are out there.
With that mindset, each individual, in my opinion, can determine them in the future, now if they believe in things that are more public, it can allow them to be more aggressive in gambling, with the reality that the possibility of disappointing results can make them look for new ways or strategies that they believe can make them win for sure.
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November 06, 2024, 03:54:49 PM
I think in this case it depends on several other aspects as long as it can be beneficial, then in the end, why not do it regardless of going against the public or following it is the same because it really depends on our choices and beliefs.

We know that in betting, especially in some sports such as football or basketball, sometimes public bets show statistics and h2h so in this case even if there is a favorite club playing but the statistics are not very good then why force the bet.

For example in soccer when you are a fan of Manchester United which is now experiencing endless problems. You already know what the statistics are like, even though in the end the odds offered are quite good when they are not profitable, why force it because in the end it will only waste your balance.
Those who impose bets usually want to get a benefit, for example, it can be publicity and recognition for audience coverage and farming a large number of subscribers, and then monetization. Now many want to do this, be it social networks or other places.

I prefer to place bets myself and not look at those who will advise me something regarding bets. Of course, this can affect many beginners who do not yet understand what is good and what is bad and try to rely on any information about bets. But we must be selective and highlight only the best information that can increase our winnings, everything else is dust.
The focus is not there buddy, because for betting I also prefer to do it myself but what I mean in this case is that we as bettors definitely know that in the end it is the profit in betting that we are looking for so in this case there is a tendency to make some bets according to or in line with the thoughts given by the bookie such as when betting between big and small clubs then indeed when this is felt to be an easy win then we will definitely choose the bet. But on the other hand, when the odds given are favorable but we do not agree with what the bookie gives then we also certainly have a decision to be in opposition and not follow such directions because we have our own thoughts to bet.

I also still do it myself where when I gamble there is no intervention from anyone because in the end when we gamble then anyone cannot be trusted so we only have to believe in ourselves and the luck we have.
 
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November 06, 2024, 05:51:03 AM
I think in this case it depends on several other aspects as long as it can be beneficial, then in the end, why not do it regardless of going against the public or following it is the same because it really depends on our choices and beliefs.

We know that in betting, especially in some sports such as football or basketball, sometimes public bets show statistics and h2h so in this case even if there is a favorite club playing but the statistics are not very good then why force the bet.

For example in soccer when you are a fan of Manchester United which is now experiencing endless problems. You already know what the statistics are like, even though in the end the odds offered are quite good when they are not profitable, why force it because in the end it will only waste your balance.
Those who impose bets usually want to get a benefit, for example, it can be publicity and recognition for audience coverage and farming a large number of subscribers, and then monetization. Now many want to do this, be it social networks or other places.

I prefer to place bets myself and not look at those who will advise me something regarding bets. Of course, this can affect many beginners who do not yet understand what is good and what is bad and try to rely on any information about bets. But we must be selective and highlight only the best information that can increase our winnings, everything else is dust.
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November 06, 2024, 05:41:41 AM
I think regardless of whether you bet against the public or with other options the most important thing is one thing that understand the dangers that always lurk you at all times, because in any case defeat will always be part of the game, but I also agree with you that most likely the gamblers who are able to control themselves and their emotions are those who are already experienced enough because of course they have gone through various situations and maybe make it a lesson so they can be better as a gambler.


Regardless of any gambler's experience, everyone has different approach to auditory, vision and sensational actions. When the public are on the side of a team, they consist of both the experts and the newbies. Only a player who doesn't get moved or respond to things he's heard others say about the game would follow his decisions. Other than that, experience helps but in most vital cases state of mind controls how money is wagered on a game.

Experienced mostly the basis even gambler take side against the public with how they manage to experienced the outcome they will insist on that position hoping that both luck and the knowledge will help them to win, like what you said, there are different approachand there are different perspectives in terms of placing your bets.

Sports gambling consist of different understanding either you pick side thinking that the favorite will lessen the chance of losing or you are aiming for bigger percentage of winning, all up to your own decision and how you view the possible outcome.
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