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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

Betting against popular opinions might bring big wins. In sports gambling betting on a perceived weak team might be seen as betting against the public but it might be the smart choice. If you are lucky and this low-rated club wins, it usually has high odds which means big wins.

For me, success in betting is when you get entertained. Recovering losses or gaining profit is just an additional benefit. You seem to have a correct perspective about people who gamble for fun and those who pursue money. Those who see gambling as a source of income are well-grounded in the betting business.

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I will defer on this a little because if the public is always right then many casinos would have folded. There have been several instances where the public bet on a match and it goes the other way. I still remember when the whole world bet Liverpool to win Nottingham Forest at Anfield but we it turned out that the opposite happened which means that the public is not always right. As long as it is a live sports, nothing is guaranteed.

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Don't bet against the public depends on the type of game it was, and how your mind accepts the game. However, there are games that you would have; you would go with what your mind tells you, not what the public gave as a result of the bets. Many times, we have seen some games that would have gone as predicted, but before the last whistle, the game turned around to go against what the public had predicted, making many lose their bets because of what they thought the game to be in favor of the strong team, turned around to be in favor of the weak team.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

I have a question mate ? Who bets and have the intention to fail? Well I believe nobody even if you are betting for fun or like in this case betting against the small odd which is supposedly favorite, everyone who thought of placing a bet have probably had it his mind that there is a possibility for him to win and that's why he bets on the side he prefers although I understand the fact that majority of gamblers actually bet in line with the preferred or supposed odd that is bound to win but most even the undergo get a slice of victory and that's what makes the game interesting.

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Most times, public opinion is always influenced by the bookies they feed the public with what they want them to believe and the option they want them to place their bet on, which is why I don't base my gambling decision on the people's choice but on my own analysis, which could either focus on my instincts and past history against my choice of teams and not on what the public thinks.

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What kind of success do you mean, please give me an example. plus, how many long-term gamblers can be successful with their bets. unfortunately, I don't have that data. I am the type of bettor who bets according to desire, mood and the team that will compete. but, not in long-term mode. the problem is, it is not easy to achieve consistency as you suggest. besides, in sports there is no certain prediction whatever it is. whether we do not bet against the public, or, vice versa and of course there is no guarantee for that. another point, why should we bet against ourselves. for those of us who really understand research and analysis, no matter the favorite team that competes, all of that must go through the research and analysis stage. ignore first that it is a favorite team, research without involving emotions. after that, then consider the options in betting. sports or football, are not easy for us to interpret. in order to achieve success from sports, it means that all aspects need to be met. be it knowledge, broad insight and also a healthy bankroll. if you are a small bettor, once you lose then it's over. as a result, make a deposit again.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

You are wrong, many gamblers interest is the fun part and this still drives their love for gambling, just because they are doing it for fun doesn't mean they are limited in the interest part, that's so wrong.

I don't do video games for scores and perks like many gamers do, I do gaming for other reasons like been addicted to a protagonist or just the game sound track, I can remember singing sonic game soundtrack every now and then when Sega era was still a thing, I never beat the game but I can play the first world many rounds just to sing along the sound track.

I do slosts games too, and there are few I like simply because of their soundtrack, we all have different reasons why we do something, making money from gambling isn't a taboo for me but I like the fun part more and this won't limit my love for gambling in anyway.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on October 29, 2024, 11:21:54 AM

Of course you can bet against the public that is the fan favorites. I think the playing conditions, stadium, and weather matter a lot, along with the players playing. If it’s cricket, then the type of pitch, the wind direction, and the playing squad depend a lot on the match outcomes. Not every time the star player can score goals or score runs. Hence, it’s ideal to wait and observe, or if possible, do some ground-level research and place the bets. After all, it’s your hard-earned money that will be put on stake. Hence, think wisely before betting for the fan favorites.

Although I don't gamble much, I am rarely involved in gambling. But when I gamble sometimes I play with a bit of certainty. We have to accept that there is no guaranteed outcome in gambling. But with experience we can increase the winning percentage. I usually watch cricket from a very young age and have enough knowledge about cricket. It is possible to predict the performance of the players or the team according to the field conditions. That's why when I bet on cricket, there are more chances of winning the bet. Sometimes my decisions are against the public. I find it rewarding to prioritize my own decisions rather than those of the majority, regardless of the outcome.

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Quote from: Blowon on October 29, 2024, 10:56:50 AM

against the public what are you talking about? is it a physical casino? how many are successful from soccer betting gambling? it is difficult to understand there is no control over the match, what we can see is the skill of the club's players

I was also finding it hard to understand what kind of bet the ops is talking about, because betting against the public is not a known form of betting to many of us, and unless if the ops is talking about betting against the public opinion which means so betting against the odds, let say if a game carries higher odds like 4.00 against it opponent which odds will be around 2:00 odds, this is why it difficult for us to decide which public he is talking about.

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Betting against the public is sometimes a smart choice though. It all depends on the payout odds.

If you see Manchester City vs Chelsea have odds of something like 1.05 vs 5.00 for instance, it will be obvious that most people bet in favor of Manchester City either because they like the team or because they genuinely think the team is going to keep dominating this season.

But the issue here largely is that if the public is pushing odds to be like this, it might be worth a shot. For instance, Chelsea is a good team. Surely they aren't in their best season now but they could surely win again against Man City. So a 5x multiplier is too good not to take.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 29, 2024, 01:51:24 AM

Quote from: retreat on October 29, 2024, 01:30:15 AM

Most people may tend to gamble following the public, but there are also those who gamble based on their own beliefs or rely on their luck against the public - and I am that type. Because in my opinion when someone bets it should be based on what they believe, not what other people say. I'm not saying that someone doesn't need to see what the public is betting on, but don't rely too much on it, just make it a reference, and bet based on what we believe, because even if we lose at least we lose with our own analysis and we can use it as a lesson to bet better in the future.

The concept of betting against the public means betting against the majority. If you’re part of that majority, then someone is betting against you. Betting experts encourage this strategy because the public often makes poor decisions based on emotion rather than analytical thinking. This can create opportunities for savvy bettors who are willing to go against the crowd.

Yes you are talking about the majority of people who gamble and make decisions impulsively based on emotions or ignorance of how to make the right decisions that are more likely to win, meaning they are probably gamblers who are involved in a type of game of skill without any knowledge or simply they treat the activity of skill like a gambling activity that relies on luck and that is not the right approach.

Sports is a skill-based bet which means when you have the knowledge to analyze both teams that will compete to know which team is more likely to win then the chances of winning will also be closer, meaning regardless of whether you are betting against the public or anyone else, betting based on knowledge in analyzing a team to make decisions that have a high chance of winning is indeed the right way and is always recommended if sports betting is your choice.

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I thought the same thing as you after seeing the subject of the post. I thought he was speaking for the people instead of against the people. But I think betters must learn to predict well in advance. Better random predictions because when a bet is made you see two sides forming nicely with a draw for both sides. Then you have to pick which one wins. Will be Predictions become much easier for those who can compare well before betting to win.

But I think that betting is completely dependent on one's self, when one bets, he analysis himself, bets by his own understanding, without looking at what others have said, by getting information, he takes a decision on which team he bets on, it is his personal matter. When it comes to betting, I feel that even if we lose the bet based on our own opinion, we feel good about ourselves, but if we make a bet through others, if we lose, then it is seen that there is a lot of talk about it, so I feel that it is better to bet. It is better to hear. Although no one can predict which team will win but everyone analysis and bets in favor of one team.

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Of course you can bet against the public that is the fan favorites. I think the playing conditions, stadium, and weather matter a lot, along with the players playing. If it’s cricket, then the type of pitch, the wind direction, and the playing squad depend a lot on the match outcomes. Not every time the star player can score goals or score runs. Hence, it’s ideal to wait and observe, or if possible, do some ground-level research and place the bets. After all, it’s your hard-earned money that will be put on stake. Hence, think wisely before betting for the fan favorites.

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Quote from: mammusu on October 29, 2024, 01:33:21 AM

Betting against the public can indeed be an effective strategy and even it is very necessary to at least get a bigger return or win, but I think we also have to be realistic and not always have to go against the public if the odds of winning actually look more inclined to the public choice, so I think we have to analyze and take an informed and planned approach so that we can Deciding the decision that we will take is to fight or join the public, going against the public will of course be easier but we don't have to fight ourselves because it will usually cause turmoil of doubt in making the right decision and ultimately tend to make us pessimistic about the bets we make.

Bet with the public if you think the team the public chose has greater capacity to win, and bet against the public when you've analyzed it and seen that the opposite team could win. It's your money, so don't bet just because you see people doing it.

It might seem like a strategy to dictate the team that will probably win or see if you'll win your bet, but many people betting on a particular team or outcome doesn't confirm or guarantee they will win. The game is a future event; they haven't taken to the field, and anything can happen.

The public's team can lose, so it's not just about betting against the public. It's about knowing your game and following your plans. If the public aligns with you, fine. If not, bet solo.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

In as much as we may be concerned about the long term effects of sport bets on our gambling budgets, this makes us to be concerned with some numbers and records and in this case the record will be, your winning rate vs you loses a d how much bankroll you start up betting with and how much is remaining ASA cash reserves or profits, when you have that statistics done and you come out with a figure which can be repeated on a 2-3 month's interval and coming out with a steady increase then you can say that you have a long term success in your sport betting.

But if you have anything other than that, it then means that you ahve a long way to go and you may likely end up losing and getting fade up, this could result into inconsistent betting which will definitely not make you to be a better bettors on the long run.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

Yes, it's true those who gambles for the fun of the game may just place a bet in favour of their favorite club without proper analysis if they have the potential to either win or lose match, unlike those who gamble for the money, who may likely go deeper into strategic analysis over which club has got high winning potentials, despite the fact sport betting are usually unpredictable due to unstable performance of major football or sporting events.
However, lack of patience has been of the reasons why many gamblers don't see gambling as long term, because inasmuch as you are gambling what you can always afford to lose at each moment, you always stand the chance of winning a reasonably good amount in long run, even though it's not a jackpot.

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against the public what are you talking about? is it a physical casino? how many are successful from soccer betting gambling? it is difficult to understand there is no control over the match, what we can see is the skill of the club's players

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OP, betting against the public is not a guarantee that yo will make profit. Luck is what really matters, because if you are not on your lucky day, or didn't place your bet during your lucky moments, you will loss that bet either you bet against the crowd or not.

I know that long term gamblers are always looking for various strategy in which they can use to make profit, and that shouldn't deceive them that their strategy supercedes their luck, because whatever strategy that you come up with will still depend on your luck for it to work out for you. Gambling should be done for fun and let profit be the last in your mind.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

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I don't play against the public, as I don't even follow what bets most bettors make. I don't gamble to make money, but just because I like gambling since my youth. I choose to bet on the favourite to minimise risk. Of course winning a bet on the underdog will bring the bettor more money, but the probability of losing is much higher. I try to find the golden mean in everything and gambling is no exception.

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Quote from: michellee on October 29, 2024, 02:03:30 AM

When you wants to betting, you should depends on yourself although you can search for what opinion from public. But still you need to have your own decision from analyzing the info that you get before. But if you gamble because of having fun, you don't have to be serious and only betting for the match that you know both team and you also know which team that can win.

A pro gamblers will search for many information from many sources so they can have more data to analyze including public opinion. But they don't just to follow what others said as that can not always right. They will try to analyze based on their skill and the info so they will pick the team that they think the team can win.

that's true, there must be a specific information for us as well before doing that if we really want to bet against the public coz how we can assure that afterwards we will win on it? Even let say it's a game of luck but the fact is the stats of players/team still matter on the game. So i can say mindset is really the most important as well coz its obviously that people who bet against the public are just taking it for fun and they're probably enjoying such way of betting sports , wherein they don't mind what will be the results after the game. So if we cant afford to lose let's bet against the public with a good plan and strategy. .

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