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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

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That's because your thinking of it as an investment? Is spending money on something sweet an investment? A book? Spending money on availing internet services to watch some entertainment is also an investment? If that's your mindset then man that's one tiring way of living lol.

You have to learn how to separate the two. It's that separation that makes it possible to control spending money after all. I mean I would 100% spend money on investments but for entertainment? Every now and then as well as a part of what I actually earn. Around 5% ish, maybe up to 10% if I really wanted something. If you really thought of gambling as an investment then I guess it's "justifiable" to spend money on it, so you do you I guess.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

The health benefits from fun is the return on investments in gambling. Return on investment does not always have to be financial and I'll give an example so that people can really understand me. If you take yourself alone or yourself and members of your family to a resort to have fun, do you expect some kind of financial compensation after spending money, or will you be happy about the fun and good time that your family just had. This is the mindset, if gambling is viewed as something for fun, then loosing amount of money to it should not hurt so much. This is why it is essential that when gambling for fun, you stick to a budget.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

You're right of course anything that requires puting our money in it isn't supposed to be taken for granted because it took you a lot of time before you could get the money, had it been the money is coming freely without you stressing yourself it would've been a different case. but for you to get the money you still need to undergo some processes/ task before you can get the money, However gambling can be seen as part of fun and entertainment in the other way round it can be seen as something that will be beneficial. because most of the wealthy people you see today it was through gambling that made them to become who they're today, what I'm trying to say in essence is that if you're gambling for profit making don't forget to apply self control is very important.

It is very risky to treat gambling same way you treat other forms of investment or assets. In all forms of investments and businesses, although it may be risky sometimes but hardwork, consistent and some physical and financial efforts will guarantee profits. Making profits from investments are very predictable as long as you have the right knowledge about the investment and you know what you are doing. Gambling is totally about luck and it's unpredictable, how do you invest so much amount of money on something that is totally unpredictable?

Even though gambling comes with some financial benefits, people should still approach it with caution because of its unpredictable nature. Many are already in deep mess because they they took gambling too seriously. Gambling is risky, so people should mind how they gamble.

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In fact 99% gamblers do gambling for money, fun is just a small part of the whole gambling activity and I can even say that there is no one who is gambling purely for fun without any intention to make money.
When there is statement or argument that someone is gambling for fun only, there are only 2 possibilities; 1st is that this person lying to himself and 2nd is that this person try to help himself control his gambling habit so it wont lead to bad effect.
But I cant fully agree with "dont gambling with intention of having fun" because when we can have fun at all while gambling, it will lead us into bigger possibility of addiction.
For me, it is fine to gamble for money because it is what is gambling for but we should also able to feel the fun while doing it.

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Quote from: Judith87403 on January 08, 2025, 06:46:43 AM

Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

You're right of course anything that requires puting our money in it isn't supposed to be taken for granted because it took you a lot of time before you could get the money, had it been the money is coming freely without you stressing yourself it would've been a different case. but for you to get the money you still need to undergo some processes/ task before you can get the money, However gambling can be seen as part of fun and entertainment in the other way round it can be seen as something that will be beneficial. because most of the wealthy people you see today it was through gambling that made them to become who they're today, what I'm trying to say in essence is that if you're gambling for profit making don't forget to apply self control is very important.

nope I disagree with you most of the rich people have made their money through gambling which is not right at all. Rich people have got to their position through their hard work and perseverance. Most of the gambling will not let you get rich because the developers use their strategies and do not let the gamblers win. I think gambling is a mental peace and through it you can get entertainment and sometimes it is impressive to win which makes you tempted again. The number of people who get rich through gambling is very insignificant whose luck is too good and they mostly think of luck as the hero in their strategy.

Yes if you can think that you can prepare yourself by gambling with huge risk and money then you may be successful but it is controlled by luck like winning the jackpot. But I am the majority of gamblers who fail to plan their own plan with their money because they get addicted to the hope of winning and lose huge money.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

In general, I don't think so, because investments are instruments that are more likely to bring profit, and the risks in them are manageable, and you can gain positive experience that will be used in future investments. And casinos and betting are just entertainment, from which you can't expect profit.

I believe, contrary to your opinion, that if someone has already come to gambling, then he should say goodbye to every dollar that he sent to the casino deposit, and not count on winning.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

For me there's nothing wrong if we aim to win some profits on gambling, since without this intention for sure that we will never do any good actions like finding suitable strategy that can help us to win. Also its pointless for not aiming to win some and just totally enjoy since its like we have no goal to reach and just wasting money on those gambling sites. Its just we need to have good discipline to avoid getting into trouble and can make sure that we can easily quit when we feel that luck is not on our side today, also we can go out once we are winning enough to secure our profits.

But if they really think gambling is investment then they are not doing anything good there since there expectation is wrong about gambling.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

Using the word invest has unveiled your mentality about gambling. Gambling is not a business in which you use a huge sum to play with the intention of making a profit. It is wrong to view gambling as a source of income because its returns are highly unpredictable. Seeing gambling as an investment might spur you to use more than you can afford to lose for it, or you can even go to the extent of borrowing money or selling personal belongings to gamble.

Believe it or not, there are so many gamblers who gamble for fun. It is not that they don't expect returns from these games, but the bottom line is that they enjoy what they do. Sometimes they are lucky to win, but losing has no effect on their finances,

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

uhhh.... I'm sorry what!? I hope you realize that people who see gambling as a way to make money are a lot more prone to gamblign addiction than people who see gambling as a way of entertainement. believe it or not there are people who spend money they can afford to lose on something they like without expecting of "return of investment". also, treating gambling as an "investment venture" is one of the fastest way ot lose money and it is a dangerous mindset to have towards gambling.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

Don't Gamble with the intension of having fun but to make money

I've been trying to understand the meaning of fun in gambling for a long time, maybe I've found it.
Gambling and having fun in my understanding, they are different words but one goal is (money) meaning: someone will be happy and can have fun based on having money, gambling will have fun because they will get money and win in gambling bets, in fact no one will have fun without money.

Many of us aim to gamble to have fun and get double the money, there is no other goal, many people use savings, loans or sell their objects for the purpose of being able to win and double the money, so having fun is money.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

You're right of course anything that requires puting our money in it isn't supposed to be taken for granted because it took you a lot of time before you could get the money, had it been the money is coming freely without you stressing yourself it would've been a different case. but for you to get the money you still need to undergo some processes/ task before you can get the money, However gambling can be seen as part of fun and entertainment in the other way round it can be seen as something that will be beneficial. because most of the wealthy people you see today it was through gambling that made them to become who they're today, what I'm trying to say in essence is that if you're gambling for profit making don't forget to apply self control is very important.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

There is no guarantee that you will make profit from gambling and when you see gambling as a means of profit like you said, you will run at big loss and if possible get addicted. This is because you will think you are investing and when you keep on losing, you wouldn't want to give up on chasing your losses. It's such people like you that would end up calling gamble a scam because you think it’s for profit making after several disappointment.

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Yes, gambling is something that we can use to pleasure in our spare time. But we don't have to try to makes money and only enjoy our time in gambling so we don't lose too much money. But if you have the intention to make money, you needs to realize that will not easy for you especially many people already lose their money.

It is better you use your money to invest in something that can gives you profit in the future such as Bitcoin instead use that money to playing gambling. Playing gambling needs to use enough money that we can afford to lose so we will not more money to gambling especially if we already lost.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Do you really think that gambling is an investment? I'd never considered this as an investment other than you, OP. I'm sorry, but to tell you that you are wrong. In fact, it is advised that we just gamble only using our extra money, not our hard-earned money. I think it was very clear to understand.

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Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

Definitely you will never agree with OP because your views about gambling are different. Remember that we are just a gambler, not the owner of the casino to think that we are running a business.

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Quote from: Odusko on January 08, 2025, 05:32:00 AM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 07, 2025, 09:59:27 PM

I think the complete opposite. I gamble for fun. People spend money to go watch a concert why cant i gamble for entertainment. Whether i spend $200 on a comcert or $200 gambling if they both entertain me then why not? If you plan to gamble to make money, it will cripple your mental health. Most gamblers over the long term dont make that much money. The highs and lows emotionally arent worth it.

Exactly when you stake some money doesn't mean that you are not gambling for fun, I wonder why some people think that it is only when there is no money involved that you are gambling for entertainment, but still entertaining someone is very expensive and at that, everyone pays to get entertained at some point, concert, clubs house or other entertainment centers all get paid, so gambling also should be viewed as so too because you need to pay for the games you engage in and play for the fun, your skills in the game is what then give you the prize you see as winnings.

There is just a little misunderstanding there though. Whether we stake money or not gambling for fun can done when the intentions is not to make profits. One thing can lead to another anyway. A person can plan on gambling for fun and end up going for profits later on after winning few bets in the process of gambling for fun. As for me, gambling for fun or entertainment are mostly done by those who are financially stable. A poor cannot be stupid enough to say he is gambling for fun. Gambling for fun is for the rich while gambling for profits is both for the rich and the poor. It has not exemption.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

Your topic is deceptive; no gambling platform or casino will promote themselves as an investment platform, they invite people to play on their platform and be entertained if you've been winning and you treat gambling as a form of investment; don't impose it on others as we are not all equal when it comes to gambling and however people looked at it, it will never become an investment platform, the criterion will not meet it.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on January 07, 2025, 06:10:29 PM

Just think of 'gamble for fun and not a way of making money' as something like an idiom. It means you should be careful of your money while gambling. It means you should gamble responsibly. It means you should not look for money while gambling as it draws most gamblers into gambling addiction.

Both goals will eventually mix and you can't separate them when you're in a live game. Will always make the fun of gambling a target for seeking profit. Depending on the intention that will later make you aware after experiencing defeat, whether it's frustrating enough or normal and come back the next day with a new bet. Lower expectations and always enjoy every win by withdrawing 50% while the rest you are free to bet until you lose.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

Don't take it literally. Gambling for fun is for casino and slot games because there's no way one person could come up with a strategy for those types of games. Everything there is controlled by the online casino itself and it's an algorithm-based type of game. But when it comes to games such as sports betting, poker, and other games where the brain is needed, then that's when we should not take it for fun. Sure, we are adding more intensity by betting on our favorite team while watching the game but we should also think about the risk we are taking since it's our money that is on the line. If we think our favorite team doesn't have a chance to win, why bet for them? It's better to just take a pass and enjoy the game.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on January 08, 2025, 05:14:04 AM

Sorry but your opinion seems to be different from what the op (the post you quoted) is saying, your comment seems to be centered around bankroll management, while the op is talking about not treating gambling as a funfair, or means of having fun as believed it should be treated by alot of other gamblers.

Nope, I said the same as OP but using another wording. Money and bankroll are two peas in a pod. Bankroll can not exist without money.

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on January 08, 2025, 05:14:04 AM

incase I understand you correctly, and as a matter of facts, decreasing or increasing one's bet amount based on how big or small one's bankroll is

Nope, your understanding of my tactic is not correct. The price of your betting must be dependable on the slope of your bankroll^{the latter considered at the time scale} rather than on the size of bankroll. ^{This not for fun but for money at the end}.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

Everyone knows what is best for them and of course everyone one has different intention while they gamble or bet, some people gamble for fun and entertainment while some people gamble for the money which to me is very necessary. You seems to confuse me when you said anything someone invest their hard earned money into should not been seen as just leisure, that statement has got me confused and if I remember correctly leisure is more like a free time and you are also misunderstanding something which is the return a gambler get or got from gambling is the fun or the money that is the two things that is involve depending on what reason they are... Lastly your reference also seems not be totally correct because people buy goods or products for different reasons which could either be for consumption or for profit making.

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