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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

There is nothing as lot of people, it's just the usual line everyone displayed on the forum so as to not to get attack for gambling for money but as for me, I gamble with my own money and I own no one an explanation for gambling for money, if I lost money during the process it's my responsibility and when I gamble and make money, the profit is all mine. I don't gamble because I want to entertain anyone because the casino are not here to entertain me but to take my money. That's the fact!

If gambling is really for fun, I'm not sure if many people that run from one casino to another because of the incentive bonuses will do that frequently. It's because everyone is looking for opportunities to have something they can used to wager that's why you see then doing that. Can we call that fun? Definitely that's not fun, that's just bonus everyone is looking for so they can replicate it to winning huge amount of money and withdraw from the casino.

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Quote from: Ricardo11 on January 14, 2025, 05:01:02 AM

Quote from: nara1892 on January 14, 2025, 02:47:08 AM

Well that's it, gambling with the intention of making money can never be justified, I'm sure there will be many people who oppose the idea because literally it is clear that gambling can never be used as a place to make money, the reason? it's clear because the purpose of the bookie to create all games is as a product with the aim of making a profit and that profit is obtained from gamblers who lose, simply put the more gamblers lose the greater the casino's profit and of course that's the goal of the bookie.

And besides we will never be able to compete with the bookie, they are the ones who create, provide and manage all the systems, meaning they are the ones who can give us victory and we as players can only hope that we are always lucky, and in the end I am very sure that the idea of making gambling a place to earn income will actually make them lose a lot of money, and there have also been many incidents that prove it.

In fact, bookies create their systems in such a way that they are always in an advantageous position and they profit through the loss of players. The basic structure of the casino system is designed in such a way that in the long run, the casino or the bookies only make a profit.
In various casinos, they always create an environment where people think that they can win. And they attract gamblers to gambling more through different words and songs, These are a trap. And those who get involved in this trap, and follow it, they lose everything, and at one stage they sink into a deep addiction to gambling, as a result they start moving towards financial and mental destruction.
This is why to achieve success, one has to work honestly, honest hard work, safe and long-term investments can ensure a good future.

Yes, that is what is meant by the advantage of the casino that is often said by many people, especially those in this forum, the point is that we will never know how to always be able to win, and also the point is logically we will never know how to be able to win in gambling except when luck comes because after all the purpose of the casino here is to profit from the defeat of the gamblers which means it is impossible for the casino to tell any strategy or method to the gamblers to be able to win.

What you said is true that casinos have various ways to keep gamblers coming back even with much higher hopes where the casino attracts them with various strategies that make gamblers interested in playing again such as by relying on the services of hired streamers or other promotional efforts, and one thing I will say is that there is no such thing as success in gambling, it's all about chance and there is no consistency to always be able to win.

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Quote from: Su-asa on January 15, 2025, 11:23:51 AM

Lot of us don't know the reason why we gamble, at first when we haven't started gambling with say we would gamble for entertainment but while we continue gambling we diverts from gambling for entertainment to gamble for profits. However many are addicted to gamble because of the failure to know the reason why they are gambling. Knowing why we gamble and knowing a good strategy to use might help to gamble responsible.

Have you heard about professional bettors or professional poker players? They could be one of the few people out there within the world of gambling who are very sure why they gamble and their intentions: to make money and a career out their good luck, analysis and deceit strategies (in the case of poker, which has many psychological strategies to deceive other players).
I don't believe in professional gamblers as there is not a simple piece of skill on what they do and what the outcome is in their sessions, they may know they gamble for a living, but in reality they will inevitably lose their money to casinos, as the house edge is against them.
Because of horror and sad stories I have heard and read about gambling, I believe people should question themselves on why they gamble and if it is not for the sake of amusement and thrill, they should re-evaluate their path and take a time away from casinos. People underestimate the importance of responsible gambling.

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Lot of us don't know the reason why we gamble, at first when we haven't started gambling with say we would gamble for entertainment but while we continue gambling we diverts from gambling for entertainment to gamble for profits. However many are addicted to gamble because of the failure to know the reason why they are gambling. Knowing why we gamble and knowing a good strategy to use might help to gamble responsible.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

Unfortunately gambling is not an investment that you will expect profit, and spending money to have fun is also not wrong, isn't it the same as when you go on vacation or when you go to a nightclub? You have to spend money to be able to have fun, only this time the fun is obtained from gambling.
If you think gambling to get profit will actually make you lose control, because it will only stop when you make a profit, even though losing all the money deposited into the casino is also often experienced by gamblers, so actually gambling for fun will be better than expecting profit which can make you depressed.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on January 15, 2025, 01:21:56 AM

So, what do you think about OP's perspective? I believe you agree with me that his perspective is totally wrong, and this thread is misleading to others. Even the casinos themself ask players to gamble just for fun and not to make money. There is another saying: deposit only what you can afford to lose. If players always can win, then there wouldn't be such a thing.

Gambling is risky, and people do it knowing this fact. You cannot always win against the house. Otherwise, the casinos would have closed their business. But that is not how it works. So, gamble just for entertainment purposes and not to make money through it.

To me that's a bit wilder thinking and maybe he's just trying to test the understanding of gambling in a narrower perspective. The conclusion may be up to each person to judge how they should get involved in gambling but if we're talking about the level of rationality maybe we should think about the ability to spend money on gambling responsibly or not. It's okay for people to gamble as long as they know the risks and are able to control themselves so as not to get involved excessively.

There is no obligation to prohibit people from gambling and it is a decision for each individual but when we have the intention to provide a view of irresponsible gambling involvement to friends or family then it is something we need to do. The rest they can make a decision either to get involved responsibly or get more addicted to it.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on January 07, 2025, 06:10:29 PM

Just think of 'gamble for fun and not a way of making money' as something like an idiom. It means you should be careful of your money while gambling. It means you should gamble responsibly. It means you should not look for money while gambling as it draws most gamblers into gambling addiction.

But it should be like that, right? We should gamble with the aim of having fun, just like we watch a movie where there is money exchanged for an entrance ticket and in gambling we get access to try our luck in gambling, even though there is a win that can be obtained, it should not be a priority because the nature of winning in this gambling is not certain. Well, if you are not ready to lose money, then you should avoid gambling, that is better than gambling to seek profit because if the goal is like that, it is possible that we can lose more money, besides that I think gambling with the aim of making or seeking profit seems like it is quite risky.

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Quote from: lizarder on January 14, 2025, 04:39:06 AM

is impossible to make consistent profit in gambling but we can chase some wins, this is problematic when people think they can make money consistently in gambling so that people will be motivated to bet excessively. The house will always be the winner and for gamblers only get a small portion of the winnings they get and I agree more if you want to make money in gambling by becoming a bookie.

So, what do you think about OP's perspective? I believe you agree with me that his perspective is totally wrong, and this thread is misleading to others. Even the casinos themself ask players to gamble just for fun and not to make money. There is another saying: deposit only what you can afford to lose. If players always can win, then there wouldn't be such a thing.

Gambling is risky, and people do it knowing this fact. You cannot always win against the house. Otherwise, the casinos would have closed their business. But that is not how it works. So, gamble just for entertainment purposes and not to make money through it.

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For the casino owner, it is a business. He can earn a lot of money from it. That is why various casinos display a lot of tempting ads. As a result, we are attracted to it. Basically, those who decide to gamble after seeing the ads are basically greedy. Their target is to make money from gambling. It is possible to make money through gambling. But for this you have to be lucky. And I would say that the chances of facing losses are a little higher than profiting from gambling in casinos.
I personally prefer online casinos. Stake is one of them. I do sports gambling most of the time. If you are experienced in sports, then there is a possibility of winning in sports gambling. However, I also lose money in it. I do not gamble mainly to make money. I gamble in my free time for refreshment.

So basically people know what is their reason to playing gambling in the first time. But then their reason has been change in the middle of time into make money and not for having fun. They doing that mostly after they win some money and they thinks that they can win more money. But if they want to think clear about what they already gets, that will not easy to win one more time so they should not have change their reason to playing gambling.
Although it is possible to make money through gambling, that will still not recommend for people because they can lose their money anytime. If that happen, many bad scenarios that they may do and that can makes them deeper in gambling.

When we gamble only for the purpose of making money, then we have to understand that we are addicted to gambling. It is possible to make money through gambling. But there is a high possibility of losing money here. So it can never be a way to make money. If we have extra money than we need, maybe we can experiment by gambling. And if we are lucky, we can definitely win a large amount of money. But if we do not have extra money, then we should stop ourselves from gambling.

I have seen many rich gamblers who have lost a lot of money in gambling and gone bankrupt. Making money from gambling is very risky. And the possibility of getting addicted to it is also very high. So while gambling, we should control our emotions. And do not spend more than a certain amount of money on gambling.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 14, 2025, 09:51:58 PM

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on January 14, 2025, 10:22:15 AM

For the casino owner, it is a business. He can earn a lot of money from it. That is why various casinos display a lot of tempting ads. As a result, we are attracted to it. Basically, those who decide to gamble after seeing the ads are basically greedy. Their target is to make money from gambling. It is possible to make money through gambling. But for this you have to be lucky. And I would say that the chances of facing losses are a little higher than profiting from gambling in casinos.

I personally prefer online casinos. Stake is one of them. I do sports gambling most of the time. If you are experienced in sports, then there is a possibility of winning in sports gambling. However, I also lose money in it. I do not gamble mainly to make money. I gamble in my free time for refreshment.

So basically people know what is their reason to playing gambling in the first time. But then their reason has been change in the middle of time into make money and not for having fun. They doing that mostly after they win some money and they thinks that they can win more money. But if they want to think clear about what they already gets, that will not easy to win one more time so they should not have change their reason to playing gambling.

Although it is possible to make money through gambling, that will still not recommend for people because they can lose their money anytime. If that happen, many bad scenarios that they may do and that can makes them deeper in gambling.

Basically, yes, in gambling, gamblers are very susceptible to changes in perspective and goals, all of which occur due to the influence of various temptations that appear before our eyes, having fun can be the safest but in the end it is possible that gamblers will play to chase money, it is a very common change and this is the reason why gamblers must always be able to maintain awareness in themselves when they are playing, none other than because there are so many things that look tempting that can change their perspective.

And on the other hand, yes, usually these changes also occur after they have managed to achieve a fairly large victory, hopes and beliefs will begin to change and eventually try to pursue victory and after that they will be trapped in emotions and impulsive behavior when the results at the end of the game are not as expected. On the other hand, yes, I understand that getting a victory is very possible for you to get, even maybe with a large amount, but the problem here is the lack of consistency to always be able to achieve victory and that is the reason why excessive expectations should not be involved.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on January 14, 2025, 10:22:15 AM

For the casino owner, it is a business. He can earn a lot of money from it. That is why various casinos display a lot of tempting ads. As a result, we are attracted to it. Basically, those who decide to gamble after seeing the ads are basically greedy. Their target is to make money from gambling. It is possible to make money through gambling. But for this you have to be lucky. And I would say that the chances of facing losses are a little higher than profiting from gambling in casinos.

I personally prefer online casinos. Stake is one of them. I do sports gambling most of the time. If you are experienced in sports, then there is a possibility of winning in sports gambling. However, I also lose money in it. I do not gamble mainly to make money. I gamble in my free time for refreshment.

So basically people know what is their reason to playing gambling in the first time. But then their reason has been change in the middle of time into make money and not for having fun. They doing that mostly after they win some money and they thinks that they can win more money. But if they want to think clear about what they already gets, that will not easy to win one more time so they should not have change their reason to playing gambling.

Although it is possible to make money through gambling, that will still not recommend for people because they can lose their money anytime. If that happen, many bad scenarios that they may do and that can makes them deeper in gambling.

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Gambling with the intention of making money might make you desperate, most people that go into gambling just try to use it as a way to get rich quick forgetting that it's a game of luck. Over the years I have learnt to play for fun only, this gives you an opportunity to enjoy the game instead of panicking. You can't gamble for fun if you stake above your means. People who use extremely huge amounts of money to play low odds don't play to have fun, they are trying to make gambling a means of survival and might lead to a whole lot of losses. Stake low and accept whatever outcome the game brings.

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Quote from: swogerino on January 13, 2025, 02:09:18 PM

I mean having this level of self control can be pretty rewarding. You never exceed your limits and also have a good time with friends, for example in online casinos where every thing is controlled by programming and algorithms designed to make your life miserable this type of achievement is great. Now I am not depositing from quite some time yet I had a very bad poker free rolls strike that made me mad by the way I lost and I was in the verge of depositing again though guess what, little by little I am also building the self control that many gamblers would only dream of having. I watch the chat at casinos where I play and all people complaining, so I think to myself keep playing for real guys while I stash up coins and I keep spinning for fun, it has worked so far for me.

it's the budget rule, it applies to anything, for us women it applies to avoiding compulsive shopping
you decide to spend a maximum of 200 euros a month on shopping, put that money in a jar and you have that to spend
if you want to get something more expensive, i dont spend the month before and i spent the month after
this helps me, as my grandmother taught me, not to spend what i do'nt have

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 14, 2025, 07:17:49 AM

That is clear casino use that for their benefit while we as a gambler just need to have fun inside their place without thinking when we can win. We can let the win comes to us especially when we have luck. The casino can attempt to attract gamblers attention by giving many exciting promotion and they send the email to gamblers that can make them return to casino. Those who have intension to make money will difficult to do that but they don't remember that casino is not that place. If they want to make money, they better to hard work and have investment so they will have a chance to make money.

For the casino owner, it is a business. He can earn a lot of money from it. That is why various casinos display a lot of tempting ads. As a result, we are attracted to it. Basically, those who decide to gamble after seeing the ads are basically greedy. Their target is to make money from gambling. It is possible to make money through gambling. But for this you have to be lucky. And I would say that the chances of facing losses are a little higher than profiting from gambling in casinos.

I personally prefer online casinos. Stake is one of them. I do sports gambling most of the time. If you are experienced in sports, then there is a possibility of winning in sports gambling. However, I also lose money in it. I do not gamble mainly to make money. I gamble in my free time for refreshment.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

You are one of the courageous people that don't mind other people's opinions especially when what you have to say is the fact. It's in this forum that people say they gamble for fun but I personally don't gamble for fun. If I want to have fun, I know exactly the best place to go and entertain myself, the fu I will get will probably be better than rounding my heads on predictions not to lose and maximizing profits, only a delusional person will think such.

The gambling companies says gamblers to bring their money to their casino and bet the game but it's the gamblers responsibility to act like they are gambling for fun, if I'm really playing for fun, there is no way I'm going to win, it's better that I be serious about it but if I lose, then I know I lost and I will move on, there is no reason to be bad about it and there is no reason to be angry because I lost, it's was my decision to gamble in the first place.

Indeed, most of us do not gamble for fun, we gamble for money, to make quick money but many people always deny that. When we entertain, it means that those games will bring us laughter, relaxation and mental refreshment...not calculation, headache to find ways to bet to win, and feel disappointed when things do not go as expected. We don't call it entertainment, we make money from gambling. Nowadays, gambling is no longer a place for entertainment.

As long as we gamble responsibly and do not harm others, there is no shame in admitting that we gamble to make money.

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No one gambles just for fun, I will never accept the fact that a gambler's gambling is only for fun but I will say that every gambler has a plan to make a profit if they gamble. If one were to gamble just for fun then one would not be risking so much of their hard earned money. One thing you will notice about people who say they gamble just for fun is that they are happy when they gamble and get upset when they lose. If there was no effect on their profits and losses, they would not be happy or upset. I will always say that from a small gambler to a much bigger gambler that you don't say why, there is definitely some expectation behind his gambling. And I think gambling should be played more seriously because there is no chance to get money back if it goes wrong.

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Quote from: Ricardo11 on January 14, 2025, 05:01:02 AM

In fact, bookies create their systems in such a way that they are always in an advantageous position and they profit through the loss of players. The basic structure of the casino system is designed in such a way that in the long run, the casino or the bookies only make a profit.
In various casinos, they always create an environment where people think that they can win. And they attract gamblers to gambling more through different words and songs, These are a trap. And those who get involved in this trap, and follow it, they lose everything, and at one stage they sink into a deep addiction to gambling, as a result they start moving towards financial and mental destruction.
This is why to achieve success, one has to work honestly, honest hard work, safe and long-term investments can ensure a good future.

That is clear casino use that for their benefit while we as a gambler just need to have fun inside their place without thinking when we can win. We can let the win comes to us especially when we have luck. The casino can attempt to attract gamblers attention by giving many exciting promotion and they send the email to gamblers that can make them return to casino. Those who have intension to make money will difficult to do that but they don't remember that casino is not that place. If they want to make money, they better to hard work and have investment so they will have a chance to make money.

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Quote from: nara1892 on January 14, 2025, 02:47:08 AM

Quote from: mindrust on January 13, 2025, 11:41:44 PM

That’s a very wrong way to look at it imo. If you don’t see gambling a way to have fun, then it means you are obsessed with making money from gambling and it also means you want to compete with the house. The casino owners are not happy to receive this type of players because if these players make money in the long run, casinos will lose money.

In the end casinos have all the necessary tools to protect their profits from the players. If they notice that a player is only following a certain pattern when making bets, they can lock that account easily based on their ToS.

Well that's it, gambling with the intention of making money can never be justified, I'm sure there will be many people who oppose the idea because literally it is clear that gambling can never be used as a place to make money, the reason? it's clear because the purpose of the bookie to create all games is as a product with the aim of making a profit and that profit is obtained from gamblers who lose, simply put the more gamblers lose the greater the casino's profit and of course that's the goal of the bookie.

And besides we will never be able to compete with the bookie, they are the ones who create, provide and manage all the systems, meaning they are the ones who can give us victory and we as players can only hope that we are always lucky, and in the end I am very sure that the idea of making gambling a place to earn income will actually make them lose a lot of money, and there have also been many incidents that prove it.

In fact, bookies create their systems in such a way that they are always in an advantageous position and they profit through the loss of players. The basic structure of the casino system is designed in such a way that in the long run, the casino or the bookies only make a profit.
In various casinos, they always create an environment where people think that they can win. And they attract gamblers to gambling more through different words and songs, These are a trap. And those who get involved in this trap, and follow it, they lose everything, and at one stage they sink into a deep addiction to gambling, as a result they start moving towards financial and mental destruction.
This is why to achieve success, one has to work honestly, honest hard work, safe and long-term investments can ensure a good future.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on January 13, 2025, 11:51:44 PM

You might have a different point of view, but that is not how you actually should treat gambling. Once you start gambling, thinking it's a way of making money, you will end up being broke. There is a saying: house always wins. You cannot really beat the house in the long run. You may win something in a short session, and maybe you will be in profit. But if you plan to play more and make money, you will lose everything.

People spend money on entertainment. Don't you subscribe to Netflix? Don't you go to amusement parks to entertain yourself? Don't you go to the bars to entertain yourself? Doesn't that cost money? You cannot expect a return from everywhere. You get entertainment in return.

is impossible to make consistent profit in gambling but we can chase some wins, this is problematic when people think they can make money consistently in gambling so that people will be motivated to bet excessively. The house will always be the winner and for gamblers only get a small portion of the winnings they get and I agree more if you want to make money in gambling by becoming a bookie. People will do anything to get entertainment and it depends on how they enjoy it and most importantly they have the money to do so.

His motivation is too high and maybe he tends not to understand gambling because if gambling can make money consistently as discussed then I am sure there are many people who will quit their jobs just to get involved in gambling because maybe their motivation is the same as discussed.

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Quote from: mindrust on January 13, 2025, 11:41:44 PM

That’s a very wrong way to look at it imo. If you don’t see gambling a way to have fun, then it means you are obsessed with making money from gambling and it also means you want to compete with the house. The casino owners are not happy to receive this type of players because if these players make money in the long run, casinos will lose money.

In the end casinos have all the necessary tools to protect their profits from the players. If they notice that a player is only following a certain pattern when making bets, they can lock that account easily based on their ToS.

Well that's it, gambling with the intention of making money can never be justified, I'm sure there will be many people who oppose the idea because literally it is clear that gambling can never be used as a place to make money, the reason? it's clear because the purpose of the bookie to create all games is as a product with the aim of making a profit and that profit is obtained from gamblers who lose, simply put the more gamblers lose the greater the casino's profit and of course that's the goal of the bookie.

And besides we will never be able to compete with the bookie, they are the ones who create, provide and manage all the systems, meaning they are the ones who can give us victory and we as players can only hope that we are always lucky, and in the end I am very sure that the idea of making gambling a place to earn income will actually make them lose a lot of money, and there have also been many incidents that prove it.

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