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A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

You might have a different point of view, but that is not how you actually should treat gambling. Once you start gambling, thinking it's a way of making money, you will end up being broke. There is a saying: house always wins. You cannot really beat the house in the long run. You may win something in a short session, and maybe you will be in profit. But if you plan to play more and make money, you will lose everything.

People spend money on entertainment. Don't you subscribe to Netflix? Don't you go to amusement parks to entertain yourself? Don't you go to the bars to entertain yourself? Doesn't that cost money? You cannot expect a return from everywhere. You get entertainment in return.
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That’s a very wrong way to look at it imo. If you don’t see gambling a way to have fun, then it means you are obsessed with making money from gambling and it also means you want to compete with the house. The casino owners are not happy to receive this type of players because if these players make money in the long run, casinos will lose money.

In the end casinos have all the necessary tools to protect their profits from the players. If they notice that a player is only following a certain pattern when making bets, they can lock that account easily based on their ToS.
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A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment
The problem is the house will always win in terms of its profits, both wins in gambling are not certain and there is no sure way to get them. Now by gambling with the aim of making a profit does that mean you have a sure way to make a profit that can last in the long term? winnings that are only obtained once I think that is quite difficult to get, because it depends on luck and we don't know when luck will happen.

I just remind you, when you have the perception that the purpose of gambling is to make a profit then what can happen is losing more money and other bad impacts, then you need to consider and do research first before you regret it, unless you really insist on it, then please do it because it is your own right.
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Gambling consistently becomes addiction, and what I believe in addiction is that, it takes only the highly mature minds to know that he has been addicted and can remove himself out of it, so many gamblers doesn't know their current state or the level they have reach, they doesn't care to observe themselves that they are doing too much which might ruin and frustrate their future in time, what can such gamblers do to help themselves? Quit gambling, I don't think it's possible.

It's best to have self knowledge so you quickly detect yourself when you getting attached to something too much, or else, it would be worse to stop it if you lack self awareness, so if you consider to opt in the way you view gambling, it's the same way you should opt out when it's getting much.
However, the gambling that is done, the chance of becoming addicted will still exist, even with those who gamble for fun, it does not mean that they are free from the chance of addiction, it's just that here they can control themselves quite well, but there is still the possibility that they can occasionally lose control and gamble blindly.

We must be able to maintain a disciplined attitude in gambling, because with this we will not experience a loss of self-control that can make us gamble blindly. In addition, our own way of viewing and responding to gambling is also one of the things that can determine our fate in the future.
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A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment
When I read this post I just laugh a bit because I don't think you are seeing it on the perspective of other people why they said gambling is for fun. Come to think of this, what investment do you think you are making that you can't be sure of your outcome then you calls that investment?
Sincerely speaking, I mean in generalization, gambling is not investment but as a game of fun because you can take something as investment when you can have access to the investment at any point in time.

Whatever you put your money and never have a general control or being so sure of the outcome is not investment rather gambling, that is why you often sees people with this talks, do not gamble with what you can't afford to lose rather you should only risk the amount you think you can waste and sacrifice when lost.

Yes I still agree with you depending on how you see it, gambling can turn into millionaire only if they wins but at the scenario when they don't win it automatically turns to lose. This aspects made it not investments rather gambling as they said but at the process you can having the fun with just little funds you have spared over it.
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Gambling is not an investment, bear it in mind that it is not in any way related to any form of investment. People who are eager to make money from gambling are the ones that takes gambling for profit making that is why when they lose, it affects them psychologically. I know that most people gamble with the mentality of winning but that does not mean they should not see it as fun.
Gambling is really not an investment and will not be associated with anything, it is actually a platform for fun only, but it can also make a profit for those who have great luck or those who can make predictions on a sports bet, or any other bet that requires data to make predictions, but will not work well on games that are already set up by the gambling system.

And people who continue to expect victory will indeed always pursue it even though some losses have occurred, in the end will only become gambling addicts, playing without control and having no way to stop.

And yes, psychologically it will bother someone who starts with improper gambling or they are too greedy to win and use more funds,
there is no minimum allocation set so that when they lose they will lose everything.

Whether it is fun or not depends on the main goal of each player, whether gambling can make them better and entertained, or will only add to the financial burden which will eventually become a scarier place than before, guided by the main goal needs to be done to provide what limits should not be violated.
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A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Do you know that there are people who has already made money, and they take gambling as something they do some for fun and at their leisure such that they don't spend much money while gambling since they are already aware that they have a high chance of losing. Gambling is not an investment, bear it in mind that it is not in any way related to any form of investment. People who are eager to make money from gambling are the ones that takes gambling for profit making that is why when they lose, it affects them psychologically. I know that most people gamble with the mentality of winning but that does not mean they should not see it as fun.
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A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

You are one of the courageous people that don't mind other people's opinions especially when what you have to say is the fact. It's in this forum that people say they gamble for fun but I personally don't gamble for fun. If I want to have fun, I know exactly the best place to go and entertain myself, the fu I will get will probably be better than rounding my heads on predictions not to lose and maximizing profits,  only a delusional person will think such.

The gambling companies says gamblers to bring their money to their casino and bet the game but it's the gamblers responsibility to act like they are gambling for fun, if I'm really playing for fun, there is no way I'm going to win, it's better that I be serious about it but if I lose, then I know I lost and I will move on, there is no reason to be bad about it and there is no reason to be angry because I lost, it's was my decision to gamble in the first place.
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I think as regards OP, this is not a topic to continue in argument for, let everyone of us gamble as according to how convinced we are, gambling is not what we should see by one way of reasoning, it has to go along with what others perceived as well, but when we see that we are going by the way of having contrary opinions, then if our own idea works for us, we can always go by it.
Gambling consistently becomes addiction, and what I believe in addiction is that, it takes only the highly mature minds to know that he has been addicted and can remove himself out of it, so many gamblers doesn't know their current state or the level they have reach, they doesn't care to observe themselves that they are doing too much which might ruin and frustrate their future in time, what can such gamblers do to help themselves? Quit gambling, I don't think it's possible.

It's best to have self knowledge so you quickly detect yourself when you getting attached to something too much, or else, it would be worse to stop it if you lack self awareness, so if you consider to opt in the way you view gambling, it's the same way you should opt out when it's getting much.
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A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

The phrase "gambling for fun" isn't the literal meaning, most often people comes to gambling with the intention of making money and this is not good. That's why it's been described to gamble for fun, reducing your expectations with the fun makes you gamble and you can quietly exit if you refuse to win anything but what if because you needed money, you borrow funds and lose everything? It will be a pain in the ass, this phrase is why many people haven't tested gambling and that's good.

If you are gambling for fun, do it right and if you are gambling for the money do it right so that in the end, it's going to be a win-win when you makes the money and when you lose, you don't have to go back and be sober about losing money or perhaps you do but quickly forget about it. Gambling is never an investment in the first place, if you ever think of it thag way, better forget about it.
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I think as regards OP, this is not a topic to continue in argument for, let everyone of us gamble as according to how convinced we are, gambling is not what we should see by one way of reasoning, it has to go along with what others perceived as well, but when we see that we are going by the way of having contrary opinions, then if our own idea works for us, we can always go by it.
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... so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money...

We all have the desire to make a profit by gambling... but sooner or later you learn that it is not always possible to make a profit. We all have a lot of ups and downs, and we all want to have more ups of course, but how many people in this world can boast that they gain more than they lose? It's not easy to be in that 1-5%.

I think that most people play for fun & entertainment because we love certain gambling games, and we gamble only with the money we can afford to lose. So if we win and make some profit it's great, but it's not a disaster if we lose... we know we will try again some other day.
We can't expect continuous profits in gambling and even consider winning “luck” even though there is a game of skill, still in gambling we will eventually experience successive defeats, this has often happened to gambling players.

So you will consider gambling for fun ---- by preparing money that is ready to lose, because this is already a responsibility so it doesn't matter if you lose.

Always have a principle where winning will be considered a bonus --- if you lose until the bankroll runs out, you will stop.
Apply this principle in gambling.
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... so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money...

We all have the desire to make a profit by gambling... but sooner or later you learn that it is not always possible to make a profit. We all have a lot of ups and downs, and we all want to have more ups of course, but how many people in this world can boast that they gain more than they lose? It's not easy to be in that 1-5%.

I think that most people play for fun & entertainment because we love certain gambling games, and we gamble only with the money we can afford to lose. So if we win and make some profit it's great, but it's not a disaster if we lose... we know we will try again some other day.
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A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

I bet almost nothing, but my partner does and he bets intelligently just to spend time with friends and have a drink
his trick was to set himself a weekly limit that he never exceeds, in this way he maintains his fun with his friends but above all he doesn't ruin himself or ruin me.

I mean having this level of self control can be pretty rewarding. You never exceed your limits and also have a good time with friends, for example in online casinos where every thing is controlled by programming and algorithms designed to make your life miserable this type of achievement is great. Now I am not depositing from quite some time yet I had a very bad poker free rolls strike that made me mad by the way I lost and I was in the verge of depositing again though guess what, little by little I am also building the self control that many gamblers would only dream of having. I watch the chat at casinos where I play and all people complaining, so I think to myself keep playing for real guys while I stash up coins and I keep spinning for fun, it has worked so far for me.
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A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment
I always get it funny from them when I hear them say they are gambling for fun, you are gambling for fun and you keep on losing your hard earn money if you know you are not getting profit or at least see back the money you use in gambling may be in a month you keep losing and call it fun it will be better you stop wasting Money on gambling and be calling it fun, I have seen people that gambling has changed their life I have also seen people that gambling is dealing with those classes of people that seen gambling as fun are those that gambling is dealing with because they are addicted into gambling and call it fun meanwhile they keep on losing weekly.

We shouldn't seen as fun gambling is more than a fun or entertainment if you are always losing while gambling is better you quit and you should also try as much as possible to gamble with the amount of money we can afford to loss.

Even though we all expected to have personal opinion on this as for me I will always say that it is best we approach gambling in light of fun and entertainment because that way you will always at every point you will tend exercise or implement that very golden role of gambling with the amount you can afford to lose even when you are winning or Lossing, but you see anyone gambling with that concept of gambling to make money even though no one likes to loss, you are prone or vulnerable to gamble with more than what you can afford to lose at some point maybe whether you are in winning or Lossing because most of your decisions will be made completely with so much emotions attached to it, but anyone is apparently entitled to their own opinions and perceptions.
How can you gamble without the mindset of making or getting profit in return when ever we gamble our expectations is just to win nobody gamble with the mindset of losing we only accept the lost when it comes if need fun and entertainment there are places we can visit to get that you can also go to football viewing centre if need fun and entertainment if you need were to waste money you can give it to the less previllage ones or probably take it to the orphanage instead of wasting it in gambling believing you are gambling for fun and entertainment, the only expect I will agree is gambling with the amount you can afford to loss because will get you less emotional if it happens that you lost Instead of gambling with the money meant for personal need or other important thing.

We are most likely saying the same thing but interpretations and choices of words are what differs, am of the opinion that every gamblers should prioritize gambling activities at every point in time in terms of generating an active income as not to be devasted whenever we have lost in our game, anyone gambling with the mindset of getting an active income can easily get carried away and gamble with an amount that they can not afford to lose, they can even go to the extend of borrowing to fulfill their desires of gambling at some point, we ought to gamble with the mindset of a balanced equation of expecting both winning and losing, because generally gambling results are uncertain.
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While you are having fun, you are making money as well, that should be the ultimate goal of gambling, and not just pure leisure and fun. Otherwise, if you're not making money at all, then leave gambling. We have other different activities that could bring us fun without risking our hard-earned money. But if gambling is some kind of giving us significant profits, then it's wise to keep it going but always stay being a responsible gambler. That's the key there, discipline should still be practice.
I'm also of that same opinion: if you are just looking for means to have fun without expecting anything in return, then you should focus on other forms of entertainment and not gambling, where you send money to play the game and don't expect something in return. Even as a player, you don't have to expect too much from the system in order not to get disappointed; let there be a chance that some day that the player will also profit by winning something out of the money pent; winning alone is another version. of fun.

Well exactly as you said I agree with that which is when someone's goal is to find a lot of money or profit then clearly gambling is not the place, the reason is clear how can you possibly make a lot of money in a place that runs based on probability, and also how can you possibly get a lot of money in gambling while the purpose of casinos building and creating gambling is to seek profit for their own interests and not for gamblers, remember gambling is not a place of charity, casinos create gambling not to give money for free to gamblers but they build all of this in order to get a lot of profit but with the scenario of making the chance of winning something that will make people tempted. This is a reasonable reason why we are always advised to only make gambling a place to seek entertainment without putting any hope in winning.
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Just think of 'gamble for fun and not a way of making money' as something like an idiom. It means you should be careful of your money while gambling. It means you should gamble responsibly. It means you should not look for money while gambling as it draws most gamblers into gambling addiction.
Spot on! Aside from meaning the phrase literally, it means you shouldn't put your hopes that when you bet you are going to win because there are high possibilities that you wouldn't win and you have chances of winning on low stakes than high stakes because who would want to give you thousands of $$ easily.  And if you must bet for profit then you must have a strong mind, you should not be pained by a losing streak, and you shouldn't get addicted because when you gamble for profit it means you'll go all out and that can lead to debt because you might exhaust your money and that is not responsible gambling.

So if you must gamble for profit then you must be very disciplined to know the amount you use to gamble and you must also discipline your personality so that a losing streak does not get to you if not, gamble for fun, gamble with a small amount and get your small profit that

Because if you position your mind for profit it means you are going to be staking big and you might not be getting the returns the way you are staking it which constitutes loss on your side eventually you can get a mental breakdown and nobody wants that for you just because you are gambling. It's okay to gamble for profit but make sure you are sound for it mentally, physically and financially.
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A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

I bet almost nothing, but my partner does and he bets intelligently just to spend time with friends and have a drink
his trick was to set himself a weekly limit that he never exceeds, in this way he maintains his fun with his friends but above all he doesn't ruin himself or ruin me.
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Its your money and thus your choice how you want to spend it. Most people will advice to gamble only for the fun, but this is just an advice crafted from experience, just like our elders taught us to avoid temptation in any sort - but what is forbidden becomes more tasty and then we make the mistake, it is similar here.

Nobody said, gambling is an investment to double it. It is a game of chance and you are having zero guarantee that your money will be doubled. Spot trading varies in the fact that you hold assets in exchange of another, here if you lose, you are done with that money.
The advice of elders is becoming more useful with time and can save gamblers from addiction. Gambling for fun involves making money along with mental peace and it entices them to play. If a gambler gambles for earning, it can be considered as a profession for him and he loses gradually. In betting or gambling, he is greedy for making money instead of entertainment.
I agree with the example you gave about forbidden and delicious. People are more tempted by it and keep throwing money away and this trend will continue to happen. People are more inclined towards zero guaranteed investments because if some of them are very lucky they have the opportunity to double or triple
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For Average Joe, gambling is for fun.

You need to prove yourself you can make money through gambling consistently, so you can claim yourself gambling for money instead of just a wish.

It's only jobless people that will have all the time to sit on the screen chasing their losses everyday ans believe it's possible for them to make it through gambling. If you're the busy type, you wouldn't have extra free time to gamble for long and that will make you not think of gambling or see it as a means to make profit, because you already have a job that you love and give your time.

I have a gambling budget and a time limit for my gambling activities so that I don't overdo it, but to gamble responsible.
Almost all people not happy with their jobs, they're forced to give their time to do their jobs, hence people are looking for other ways to make money, for them gambling can be a way to make money.

Of course being jobless will make them able to spend more time to gamble, but they're mostly problematic people who take or steal money from their family.
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