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Quote from: Kelvin555 on January 21, 2025, 04:55:36 AM

You're wrong, I sometimes invest my hard earned money in video games, do I expect to make money from them ? No.

Aside from that, I don't see gambling as a way of having fun.

Well I understand what you do with buying new video games, because I have friends who are fans of these games and they do it and the truth is they don't mind making money, I suppose you mean no fun when it comes to games of chance and Sports betting , Right ? However , Each person has their own very well-defined point of view of what they want, I used to play a lot of video games, and the truth is they are very interesting, but to be honest there came a time when I got bored and the casinos and sports betting give it the necessary plus because when you bet you risk money, I think that everything that involves a risk in money becomes more interesting, that's why it should be done in Moderation.

Gaming and gambling is a match made in heaven and I think The Sandbox project has the right business model. If Microsoft ever embraces crypto for their users (GTA 6 is rumored to incorporate crypto) then I think we’ll see a new golden age for gaming. For now, if you want to have fun and risk money, gambling is the only game in town, but don’t forget the point is fun.

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Quote from: Kelvin555 on January 21, 2025, 04:55:36 AM

You're wrong, I sometimes invest my hard earned money in video games, do I expect to make money from them ? No.

Aside from that, I don't see gambling as a way of having fun.

Well I understand what you do with buying new video games, because I have friends who are fans of these games and they do it and the truth is they don't mind making money, I suppose you mean no fun when it comes to games of chance and Sports betting , Right ? However , Each person has their own very well-defined point of view of what they want, I used to play a lot of video games, and the truth is they are very interesting, but to be honest there came a time when I got bored and the casinos and sports betting give it the necessary plus because when you bet you risk money, I think that everything that involves a risk in money becomes more interesting, that's why it should be done in Moderation.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

lol don't tell me what to do. I know you probably mean well writing this up, but you are looking at this completely wrong which leads me to believe you're not on track, finance wise. See the money that I use to gamble, place sports bet is money that I can fully lose and be fine with. I game for fun. The vast majority of people are not qualified to gamble as a job. So you couldn't be more wrong in your take here.

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Quote from: Frankolala on January 21, 2025, 07:33:20 AM

Quote from: I_Anime on January 18, 2025, 04:46:45 PM

If you're gambling for the money alone , shows signs of irresponsibility because most of these folks usually have the mindset of hitting a jackpot that will change their lives overnight. I will still say it again , just try and do it for fun and the can come in as reward sometime, because you can win or lose in gambling.

I'm speaking base on experience, because I once had such mindset of trying to get rich quick with gambling then . But having such mindset it didn't end well, after encounting countless losses .

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Having the mindset of getting rich through gambling is a sign of hopelessness and laziness. This is because gambling is just a game and not a job or a skill, neither is it a business. Whatever you get from gambling, you would have already lost double of that making it very risky to partake in. If you are gambling with the mindset of having fun, you will accept whatever is the outcome of your bet.

Hmm yes I agree with your opinion that most likely the desire to get rich through gambling is owned by gamblers who have a very high level of laziness, like losers who want to get a lot of money but don't want to sweat a lot or don't want to try to go through the process until finally they make gambling as an intermediary to achieve their dreams just because they see the opportunity to win provided by the casino, and of course that is a big mistake in thinking.

On the other hand I don't think I have to explain in detail why gambling can never be used as an intermediary to overcome financial problems because I'm sure most people will know that it is a wrong intention if for example they are able to use their common sense correctly, the point is don't be easily tempted by anything that you don't know how it works.

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Ironically I think gambling for fun reduces the stress associated with losing
We are affected because of our expectations but if there is little to no expectations
You wouldn't have situations like Revenge gambling or losing everything.

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Quote from: junder on January 18, 2025, 09:03:58 PM

It is certain that most people who gamble want to win, as well as those who gamble for fun, they certainly have a desire to win, only they are not too obsessed with winning because those who aim to win are usually more obsessed with winning so they can gamble continuously without good self-control.The difference is that people who gamble for fun may be better able to control themselves, such as when they have experienced a defeat, what they do is stop and not extend their gambling session, but what happens to those who aim to make a profit is usually the opposite.

Well, there is a point that you talk about that is very delicate, when you talk about obsession pro gnaar, that is where things start to look bad, because every obsession brings consequences and they are very bad, I personally would say that when it comes to handling things better, you have to stop when you suspect obsession, and the thing is that every obsession in any area is not only good, it has many cons and that can lead to losing a lot of money and that is only the worst thing that can happen to us, and everything leads to an addiction that in the end from then on everything goes wrong.

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Nothing should be taken as fun, I am doing a small task and we should take this small task seriously. Many gamblers say that they gamble just for fun, but in the process of having fun, they lose a lot of money at one point, which they later regret. If I start gambling with a very small amount of my total bankroll, I will still want to convert the amount I'm gambling with into more money. If our plan is such that I don't care whether the money I am gambling with is a profit or a loss, then the money will definitely be lost. As long as we are serious, we will try our best and if we fail there despite trying our best, that is a different matter, but if we lose money without trying, then it is our failure.

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The first thing they should have is awareness that will hep them to identify the temptation or not and then they self control will telling them to avoids that temptation and just stick to their rules. If they are gamble with the intention of make money, they can lose their self control anytime and they don't aware that gambling is not a place to make money. It is why they will not stay longer in the casino because they can lose all of their money easily without winning anything. But if you can be aware of that risk, you will not trying to spends too much money without wins.

If there is an intention to earn money in gambling, then this will involve a more responsible approach to the game, but at the same time it will also imply higher stakes so that the win has meaning and can bring a good profit. And if gambling is just a game for fun, then I will never risk the amount that I will be sorry to lose, and I will never allow gambling to cause me significant losses, but I also understand that in this case I will not be able to earn anything.

If you're gambling for the money alone , shows signs of irresponsibility because most of these folks usually have the mindset of hitting a jackpot that will change their lives overnight. I will still say it again , just try and do it for fun and the can come in as reward sometime, because you can win or lose in gambling.

I'm speaking base on experience, because I once had such mindset of trying to get rich quick with gambling then . But having such mindset it didn't end well, after encounting countless losses .

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Having the mindset of getting rich through gambling is a sign of hopelessness and laziness. This is because gambling is just a game and not a job or a skill, neither is it a business. Whatever you get from gambling, you would have already lost double of that making it very risky to partake in. If you are gambling with the mindset of having fun, you will accept whatever is the outcome of your bet.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

You're wrong, I sometimes invest my hard earned money in video games, do I expect to make money from them ? No.

Aside from that, I don't see gambling as a way of having fun.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on January 21, 2025, 12:02:37 AM

Gambling with the aim of getting money will only lead us to gambling addiction and allow us to get caught in an unfavorable cycle of addiction. Many people are already trapped in a cycle of addiction until what happens is their lives become a mess, some even end their lives by committing suicide because they cannot accept the pressure that occurs even though it is a consequence of their own actions. I myself do not recommend anyone to gamble with the aim of money, but if the profit has been obtained, it must be used as well as possible.
The thing to note is that defeat is the first thing that will happen more often than victory, so as you said it is better to come only occasionally, because luck will give us victory when it is time.
It is very good that you can learn from the events that you have experienced before, this should be done by everyone who gambles by learning from the bad events that they have experienced.

It is hard to follow "dont gamble with aim to earn money", it can be possible only when gambling with little bets and with short sessions. As soon as person starts spending, lets say 15 minutes or so (that is enough to either build a bank or to lose a lot), that person automatically starts calculation what he could buy with won money, or would not buy now, because money are lost. I think that while gambling, people start to convert their amount won into items or services they would buy. For example someone has already won $15 and he already converts that into a possibility to buy a meal; won $50 - new jeans for example, $200 - can update a gadget or buy new phone (if he sells his old), $500 - might buy a laptop. When people start to make such goal and divide winnings into levels, that when fun stops and greed starts. That why short and little bets can be a solution to prevent addiction and still have fun.

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Quote from: pawanjain on January 19, 2025, 04:59:19 AM

Why do you think people spend so much on fashionable clothes, luxury cars, expensive shoes etc... ?
All of those make them happy and that's the reason why they are willing to spend more on that instead of buying cheap things.
We can consider the same with gambling as well. We are paying the price to have fun and so expecting an ROI from it doesn't make any sense.

You've said it. We've been gambling because we enjoy to have it and with the chance of having some return while having fun. Many will not understand that and they will come up with diagnosis based on what we've said that we're already addicted. We're not, we're still in the grounds and we understand that this is not going to end up like those gambling addicts that are not in control because they've already lost a lot of money and they cannot take it back on an instant so they're still taking chances until they have lost everything that they have.

So far gambling with the intention of entertainment is still the best approach and I think it will always be the most appropriate and safest approach in gambling because after all a gambler will never be able to make a lot of money from an activity that runs based on probability, and one of the reasons why the purpose of entertainment is the best approach is because we will be able to avoid unwanted possibilities such as losing significant amounts of money because we will definitely be easier to control ourselves and stop at the right time. And besides that gambling with the intention of entertainment does not mean that it will not give you victory because it is a matter of luck, so the point is the benefits and advantages of gambling with the purpose of entertainment, the first is that we will avoid various setbacks such as those experienced by addicts, second we will really be able to enjoy the entertainment of gambling, third we will be free from what is called pressure and tension and the last we still have the opportunity to get victory and enjoy it.

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Quote from: I_Anime on January 18, 2025, 04:46:45 PM

Quote from: eisen33 on January 18, 2025, 11:33:40 AM

If there is an intention to earn money in gambling, then this will involve a more responsible approach to the game, but at the same time it will also imply higher stakes so that the win has meaning and can bring a good profit. And if gambling is just a game for fun, then I will never risk the amount that I will be sorry to lose, and I will never allow gambling to cause me significant losses, but I also understand that in this case I will not be able to earn anything.

If you're gambling for the money alone , shows signs of irresponsibility because most of these folks usually have the mindset of hitting a jackpot that will change their lives overnight. I will still say it again , just try and do it for fun and the can come in as reward sometime, because you can win or lose in gambling.

I'm speaking base on experience, because I once had such mindset of trying to get rich quick with gambling then . But having such mindset it didn't end well, after encounting countless losses .

Gambling with the aim of getting money will only lead us to gambling addiction and allow us to get caught in an unfavorable cycle of addiction. Many people are already trapped in a cycle of addiction until what happens is their lives become a mess, some even end their lives by committing suicide because they cannot accept the pressure that occurs even though it is a consequence of their own actions. I myself do not recommend anyone to gamble with the aim of money, but if the profit has been obtained, it must be used as well as possible.
The thing to note is that defeat is the first thing that will happen more often than victory, so as you said it is better to come only occasionally, because luck will give us victory when it is time.
It is very good that you can learn from the events that you have experienced before, this should be done by everyone who gambles by learning from the bad events that they have experienced.

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Quote from: Ricardo11 on January 19, 2025, 04:52:58 AM

In fact, gambling is a game of luck, and luck will not always be on our side, so how can we consider gambling as a source of guaranteed income? where the possibility of negative results is relatively high. But the problem is that no one understands this main point, they continue to gamble uncontrollably to earn money, and only move towards disaster.
That is why gambling should be limited to entertainment only. Keeping yourself in control, gambling within a limited amount according to your ability to lose, it will not have any negative impact on our lives. And for this, it is very important to be responsible and realize the reality. It should be remembered that there is no shortcut to success, success can only be achieved through good deeds, and risky things like gambling only bring disaster.

Yes we can not consider gambling as a source of income because that will just makes us lose too much money if not all of our saving money. We may lose control over ourselves in gambling and not thinks that gambling is just for entertainment and not for making money. That is why we must use gambling for entertainment only and have a big intention to make money because that can drag us too deeper in gambling without want to leave it for a while. Only those who can thinks clear and wisely that will prevent themselves from the deep of gambling and can block the intention to make money from gambling. They will always control themselves and remember that gambling can not gives them the income but only have a big chance to lose their money. They must use limitation in gambling to prevent any bad things that can occurs so they can know when they must leave gambling.

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Quote from: passwordnow on January 19, 2025, 06:56:33 PM

Quote from: pawanjain on January 19, 2025, 04:59:19 AM

Why do you think people spend so much on fashionable clothes, luxury cars, expensive shoes etc... ?
All of those make them happy and that's the reason why they are willing to spend more on that instead of buying cheap things.
We can consider the same with gambling as well. We are paying the price to have fun and so expecting an ROI from it doesn't make any sense.

You've said it. We've been gambling because we enjoy to have it and with the chance of having some return while having fun. Many will not understand that and they will come up with diagnosis based on what we've said that we're already addicted. We're not, we're still in the grounds and we understand that this is not going to end up like those gambling addicts that are not in control because they've already lost a lot of money and they cannot take it back on an instant so they're still taking chances until they have lost everything that they have.

By gambling, people are choosing a source of income along with it which may be a bad idea for them at this stage as when income is involved in gambling, you will not want to lose easily and the addiction to win will be rooted in you. I am saying that the tendency to gamble to earn money gradually leads to addiction which is accompanied by the process of losing money. And addiction is a disease that is not easy to get rid of and it gradually spreads to different parts. The negative impact on family and society is disastrous beyond the individual level.

Yes gambling is a means of enjoyment where you can spend time and get peace of mind. I like to spend time in betting or gambling to find a way to entertain myself from the busyness of the day which saves me from becoming addicted to it at a normal level. You should not miss those events by enjoying the competition between your favorite teams while betting.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on January 18, 2025, 10:44:39 PM

I see quite a lot of people who think that when a gambler comes and gets involved in gambling for entertainment purposes then they will not want to win, when in fact it is not like that, winning is still a very enjoyable result regardless of your purpose of gambling, we cannot lie to ourselves that we all like money, so as you said that all gamblers must have the hope of winning but what makes the difference here is that gamblers who come with the intention of entertainment do not have excessive expectations of winning, their priority is for entertainment but they will also be happy to take the win when they are lucky.
I agree with the difference you made about gamblers who come to earn income and gamblers who come with the intention of seeking entertainment and that is true, the ease and difficulty of controlling yourself are the differences here.

The right statement, of course everyone is happy with money and wants as much money as possible, no wonder many people hope that gambling can provide many benefits, only this tends to make them addicted and lose money, even in large amounts. People who gamble for fun I think they have the hope of winning, only they can control themselves better.

I myself do both, sometimes I find myself in a situation where I don't have much money and I gamble in the hope of winning, sometimes I also gamble when I have more money just for fun by getting the sensation.

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Quote from: pawanjain on January 19, 2025, 04:59:19 AM

Why do you think people spend so much on fashionable clothes, luxury cars, expensive shoes etc... ?
All of those make them happy and that's the reason why they are willing to spend more on that instead of buying cheap things.
We can consider the same with gambling as well. We are paying the price to have fun and so expecting an ROI from it doesn't make any sense.

You've said it. We've been gambling because we enjoy to have it and with the chance of having some return while having fun. Many will not understand that and they will come up with diagnosis based on what we've said that we're already addicted. We're not, we're still in the grounds and we understand that this is not going to end up like those gambling addicts that are not in control because they've already lost a lot of money and they cannot take it back on an instant so they're still taking chances until they have lost everything that they have.

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Okay, I will agree with your opinion, but what if a person is putting his hard-earned money into gambling to get a return on it and fails every time? What would you suggest in that case? In my view, gambling is a way of spending time and entertainment, but it is also a way of earning money, though not a passive one. The opinion you provided is best suited for someone who knows how to gamble and make money, but for beginners or those with less experience, it won't work. They have to gamble occasionally and gain experience.

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Quote from: uche6215 on January 07, 2025, 05:56:09 PM

A Lot of people are of the idea that gambling is something that is used as a leisure or having fun with as they consider gambling to be more of entertainment but personally I disagree with such theories because looking critically at the question on ground anything that you can invest your hard earned money into should not be seen as just leisure but is something that can bring back return on investment so gambling should be seen from the point of view of making money

Because there is no way you will buy goods as a business man and not expect profit so gambling should be seen as something that will be beneficial to the gambler financially as it's more like an investment

Why do you think people spend so much on fashionable clothes, luxury cars, expensive shoes etc... ?
All of those make them happy and that's the reason why they are willing to spend more on that instead of buying cheap things.
We can consider the same with gambling as well. We are paying the price to have fun and so expecting an ROI from it doesn't make any sense.

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Quote from: eisen33 on January 18, 2025, 11:33:40 AM

If there is an intention to earn money in gambling, then this will involve a more responsible approach to the game, but at the same time it will also imply higher stakes so that the win has meaning and can bring a good profit. And if gambling is just a game for fun, then I will never risk the amount that I will be sorry to lose, and I will never allow gambling to cause me significant losses, but I also understand that in this case I will not be able to earn anything.

Having intention to earn money in gambling is okay but we must realize that is not easy so we don't have to try hard to earn money and just use enough money to enjoy the games. We can not spend much money more than we can afford to lose because that can makes us really lose that money but we will still difficult to win the money. We need to use gambling just to have fun without any intention to make money because there is no big chance for us to get it. Besides that, we really need our luck to win the games and bring the money to our home so we should not take the big risk of losing the money. If we realize that playing gambling is just for having fun, we can use our spare time to enjoy the games and nothing else.

In fact, gambling is a game of luck, and luck will not always be on our side, so how can we consider gambling as a source of guaranteed income? where the possibility of negative results is relatively high. But the problem is that no one understands this main point, they continue to gamble uncontrollably to earn money, and only move towards disaster.
That is why gambling should be limited to entertainment only. Keeping yourself in control, gambling within a limited amount according to your ability to lose, it will not have any negative impact on our lives. And for this, it is very important to be responsible and realize the reality. It should be remembered that there is no shortcut to success, success can only be achieved through good deeds, and risky things like gambling only bring disaster.

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Quote from: eisen33 on January 18, 2025, 11:33:40 AM

If there is an intention to earn money in gambling, then this will involve a more responsible approach to the game, but at the same time it will also imply higher stakes so that the win has meaning and can bring a good profit. And if gambling is just a game for fun, then I will never risk the amount that I will be sorry to lose, and I will never allow gambling to cause me significant losses, but I also understand that in this case I will not be able to earn anything.

Having intention to earn money in gambling is okay but we must realize that is not easy so we don't have to try hard to earn money and just use enough money to enjoy the games. We can not spend much money more than we can afford to lose because that can makes us really lose that money but we will still difficult to win the money. We need to use gambling just to have fun without any intention to make money because there is no big chance for us to get it. Besides that, we really need our luck to win the games and bring the money to our home so we should not take the big risk of losing the money. If we realize that playing gambling is just for having fun, we can use our spare time to enjoy the games and nothing else.

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