Topic: DragonMint T1 16TH/S halongmining.com - page 63. (Read 87776 times)

Since it was after the Chinese New years I contacted Yoshi he has promised to ship a unit out in march then 4 more later so I am hopeful .  I have not paid anything in as he told me I could pay with cc or paypal when item is ready to ship.

I feel for those that ordered in Nov 2017 has to be a long wait for them.

Are they transparent no so far not true.

I Hope that it works as advertised.
I hope it ships on time
I will get back with more info when yoshi ships one to me.

They did release this youtube video though which LOOKS VERY promising

https://youtu.be/93UzVnRe6t0

I would've really liked if Halong would've been more open so far.

They said that they will be a better option than Bitmain.

Instead they are even more closed than Bitmain when it comes to the information available.

So it's not much of an improvement in my opinion.

Sure sounds a lot like the early days of the BFL/Bitmine.ch/AMT threads. Starry-eyed high hopes from newbs despite zero physical proof of product. Then it finally became very apparent that despite having made functional prototypes said companies failed miserably at getting a production-ready version going and the pitchforks/torches started to be handed out...

At least through it all BFL/Bitmine.ch/AMT talked to folks right up to the very end. Halong exec's on the other hand are smugly sitting back watching money roll in and not saying a word. Still gives a very hinky and certainly not fuzzy-warm feeling. Frankly, I don't care if they *do* actually deliver an on-time product they will never see a single Satoshi from me because of their hubris.

If you can afford to do this, best option.  I would figure out the heat first, though.

Speaking as one who tried everything else first and ended up getting 220, I would suggest you skip the in between and just get the 220. I had 2 circuits 2 outlets each for a total of 4, electrician charged 750 USD including the stock he used. I live in the expensive northeast and my house is 120 years old. The converters I bought that were terrible cost almost as much and I had to sell them at a big loss.I hope you get your units.

Amperage is what you need to be on the lookout for at home, not necessarily voltage.  Your circuits probably run 15-20 amps per, and these miners will burn about 10 amps per unit at 110v.  You may be able to run two per circuit, but you'll be cutting it close.  If you upgrade to 220 you basically cut your amperage in half.  One 30 amp 220v circuit will run all five without tripping the breaker (although I would pay for two 30 amp circuits and balance them between).  Maybe an electrician can chime in here, I only know this stuff through experience, not trade.

Electricity aside, what you really have to deal with is the heat.  These devices are high wattage, and therefore create thousands of BTUs per machine.  You can find a calculator online to give you an estimate.  If you have these indoors you'll find that residential AC won't cut it, even with just three machines or so.  You'll need to devise a way to move hot air outside and pull an equal amount of cooler air into your space.  There is some math involved, and I suggest you do your due diligence and wrap your head around it before you have a 200f degree room in your home.

Good luck.

It doesn't mean much right now, but I'll be glad to post pics and specs of the 5 units I ordered for the April batch if/when I receive them. I'm guessing they'll arrive on April 30th! Also, I ordered 10 PSUs with the hope of being able to run all of them off my standard 110v home circuits...2 PSUs per miner. If that doesn't work then I suppose I'll have to pay for a few 220v circuits to be installed. I remain optimistic about their arrival, of course! 

Sent the email  below a few minutes ago:


Re: Dragonmint
Sunday, February 25, 2018 12:35 PM
From:
"PHILIP Axxxxxx"
To:
philipaxxxxx@yahxxom "Yoshi Gxxx"

Dear Yoshi

Happy New Years!

Now that holidays are over I thought I might ask if you can get 1 early unit as  you mentioned to me in our emails.

   I would not reveal anything to the public other then that it works along with the power it consumes to hash at 16th.
 I will soon be doing a nice gpu review a large industrial style 16 gpu unit.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-16-gpu-industrial-style-miner-review-will-post-details-soonupdated-3015786

It would be nice to get a unit from you as soon as you can provide one. I can pay with paypal when you are ready to ship the early one to me.  I would need 5 all told.. 1 soon then 4  in late March .

Buysolar and I are planning to add a second solar array  which will more then double our power So units from you and the 16 gpu units will be nice to have on hand.

Best  regards,

phil

Note I am posting this email in the dragonmint thread

First guys to soon receive a Dragonmint unit, please check your machine if we can find out some more information to clear out this 'bermuda triangle' theory. 

I highly suspect that Innosilicon hardware is involved in the Dragonmint unit.

It is sure that it exists .  Just not sure if and when people will get them.  Which is why I will not send mony via cc or paypal to yoshi until he tells me to.

I suggest waiting to pay for these to all that want them. Until they show in the field and btw they are better specs  but an s-9 selling at 800 to 1000 is a better deal to anyone with low power cost.  So even if these show up and work and do 16th at 1200 watts

antminer might simply sell the s-9 for 800 to 1000

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If all goes well, u can test a unit in march right?

Phil, why not u just pay them for one unit first and get that one unit shipped asap and tested before u pay them for the other 4. This is still not a sure thing. There are those that say they could have been in innosilicon factory. That would explain the vid because there were no other DM stickers on the other DM units that are wrapped in plastic. There were DM stickers only for the units on show. There is a chance that they did get into innosilicon factory as others say....and maybe placed the stickers there.
CK never saw or tested the units. He helped them remotely only. This is not a 100% either.

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I believe you CK. Maybe they are just avoiding talking to anyone because once you open the door every idiot in the world is going to have 20 repetitive questions, in 27 different languages, and they are trying to put every ounce of their energy into the actual product, and getting it out on time. There could be a language barrier that makes it even more difficult (having to have someone translate, or proofread your replies to make sure there aren't any errors, or that the english sounds...like english) Like if anyone on here ever got someones email and distributed it, it could be a huge hassle when you're working 60 hour weeks to meet a deadline. Also, sometimes the nerd factor could come into play. Someone could be the most skilled electronic inventor/software engineer in the world, and be so socially awkward they have trouble looking the girl at Burger King in the eye. I know some people exactly like this. I'm cheering this project on, I really hope it ends up being real, and that my lack of faith doesn't screw me out of being able to get one on the second batch at least. I didn't have the moneys to get one of the first batch, if I had even gotten screwed on one of them it would of put my whole operation in serious jeopardy, as I never got into the game till the last halving, and I'm still building slowly. Good luck to everyone, and may all your miners ship on time!

My bad sorry, bitmain warranty is now called myrig. BTW I have absolutely no financial stake in the company whatsoever beyond being paid to do cgminer driver cleanups so I have nothing to gain by staking my reputation on them.

I stand corrected on your post. I too believe it is real....but (see my previous posts) you guys are NOT out of the woods yet, who ordered...I wish you luck

however and hope it works out AT LEAST as well as you all just getting some Bitmain Units (also stated for March 2018).  Thus worse case for the folk

that ordered was a lot angst, to be in the same 'boat' as bitmain folk getting stuff in March for sha-256....knock wood.......

again, I've been on the wrong end of these deals before, would not wish it on anybody....would rather eat crow...(by the way how does one season crow? Seems

I mentioned something about 'eating crow' if the product existed.....but am unclear on proper preparation etc

I've been hired by bitmain warrantymyrig, I know the person by name personally who hired me, the scope is extremely flexible just to clean up whatever's involved with the driver, my reputation speaks for itself, the device is definitely real but I couldn't possibly speak for timelines of production and guarantee delivery ffs that has nothing to do with me.

I'd rather wait 

Honestly, it sounds unconvincing and sparse. How about disclosing today any other details about the circumstances surrounding your opportunity to sign the NDA, short of violating your NDA? There is much you can tell us without violating any NDA you claim you signed. Who are you? What can you tell us about your mining history and plans? What processes and tools do you like to use to verify the authenticity of mining hardware when given the opportunity to inspect it? What due diligence checks do you like to conduct on businesses that sell mining hardware? These are general questions and not specific to Halong Mining, so it would not violate an NDA to answer in general terms not specific to any one company.

same song, same dance ...IF they come in...and IF they come in NOT late...and IF they come in not pre-mined...and IF they come in, at any better rate of price

then just getting a bitmain unit that also ships in March 2018 with less angst and the same 'dubious' ROI with all the 3 months of accumulated bitmain units that

all dump at the same time in March.....

but sure, you ACTUALLY get one...I'm always up for 'unicorn spotting'

seriously though, I hope it all works out...but this will be the biggest clusterf*ck of a launch I have EVER seen, since being into crypto from 2013...IF IT IS NOT a

scam, if it IS a scam (or late/or whatever/or pre-mined) that I've seen plenty of since 2013

good luck!

brad

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I'll be happy to post pics when my batch comes in.

How's that sound?

T

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