Pages:
Author

Topic: DragonMint T1 16TH/S halongmining.com - page 65. (Read 87857 times)

newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
February 16, 2018, 09:40:53 PM
I would say they got a lot. Good - Bad - in-different but a lot of us watched the whole thing from start till March and they sold a LOT!!!
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
February 16, 2018, 09:20:43 PM

I personally think this was an advertising method and if you look at the thread  it has lots of info and post and interest.


What in the what? No, just no.

In no sense of the matter does it make any sense to be unreachable, and provide zero information, zero product for review, zero viable photos/video for the public. It is just careless and foolish to be so shit at marketing, no matter the product.

The Chinese aren't "innovative" in any fashion, they just steal from everyone else since intellectual property doesn't exist there.

69 pages and many hits  has attracted many included me and you  so how dumb are they?
jr. member
Activity: 99
Merit: 4
February 16, 2018, 08:05:18 PM

I personally think this was an advertising method and if you look at the thread  it has lots of info and post and interest.


What in the what? No, just no.

In no sense of the matter does it make any sense to be unreachable, and provide zero information, zero product for review, zero viable photos/video for the public. It is just careless and foolish to be so shit at marketing, no matter the product.

The Chinese aren't "innovative" in any fashion, they just steal from everyone else since intellectual property doesn't exist there.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
February 16, 2018, 11:04:42 AM
They have yet to refund my BTC from a cancelled order.   This is exactly what happened to me at HashFast.  First promises, then no response.   Ahhhhh:-(  Well, this time it was only 0.298 BTC and not 33 BTC.   https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1G3bzKHfwaaKQMjewN7Q7Prp3jRwq7XSB4



Keep posting on this here.  Show some screen shots  to show you are legit.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
February 16, 2018, 10:54:03 AM
They have yet to refund my BTC from a cancelled order.   This is exactly what happened to me at HashFast.  First promises, then no response.   Ahhhhh:-(  Well, this time it was only 0.298 BTC and not 33 BTC.   https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1G3bzKHfwaaKQMjewN7Q7Prp3jRwq7XSB4

HM Invoice and Blockexplorer screenshots:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2HPP8ccxG8nLTlFM09KMk90dlU


I just received an email from them today about two hours after posting this. 
full member
Activity: 462
Merit: 118
February 16, 2018, 09:35:26 AM
...

I think your biggest risk is just its reliability. I assume they are sending u a fast unit for a review. Maybe their PR is not so bad after all lol.



(Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to trim the quote from philipma1957 and to remove an off-topic portion of this post.)
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
February 16, 2018, 09:23:48 AM
We did twist a bit off track.  But I have my reply from Yoshi

and here is a followup

with 'photos'

I personally think this was an advertising method and if you look at the thread  it has lots of info and post and interest.

I will get a single unit early to mid march  then the 4 others late march to early april

As to whether it is good gear. ?
as to on time shipping. ?
as to bitmain selling an 18th-20th at 1200 watts ?
but I am looking forward to this in about 25 days
legendary
Activity: 3822
Merit: 2703
Evil beware: We have waffles!
February 14, 2018, 07:28:20 PM
Does it help if I say these are real? I can't speak for their production targets times costs etc. but they do hash uniquely different and I've helped work with them remotely.
Yes, it does help as you are the 1st from here with rep and technical chops to say that.

As I've been leaning towards, the biggest question now is more along the line of will they ship on time or put their pre-order Investomers through a BFL/Bitmine.ch/AMT 'just a few more tweaks...' hell of endless delays.
member
Activity: 99
Merit: 11
February 14, 2018, 07:22:06 PM
Does it help if I say these are real? I can't speak for their production targets times costs etc. but they do hash uniquely different and I've helped work with them remotely.

Most importantly. What was the hash rate that you observed when you were "working with them remotely"?
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
February 14, 2018, 03:12:01 PM
Very cool. Thanks for being so open, Phil.

Well I hope to get a reply soon.

Got a reply  I am on track for 5 units in  late March.

He also said he may send one out earlier then that.

Fingers crossed.

member
Activity: 181
Merit: 53
February 14, 2018, 02:49:36 PM
Enough people purchased it that they don't need the PR in the form of expedited units for anyone at this point.

When the product arrives as advertised, that's all the PR they'll need to solidify their stance as a reliable company.


Im gonna have to disagree with that. Even if the product arrives as advertised they have still proven they dont know how to function as a retail company. I wouldn't give a 5 million dollar order to a company that acts this shady and uncommunicative. I mean their main distributor says he doesn't even knows hes a distributor? There are still too many red flags with how the company has been run these past few months.

If these batches arrive as advertised and there's no QC issues, I wouldn't have an issue placing a 5M+ order with Halong for a future batch, assuming the pricing works out which is another topic. This is further assured by actually seeing the unit in person in early January and having Scott in such close proximity. I agree the company should be more consistent and direct with communicating with people. Maybe they've got too many chiefs and not enough Indians.

As for DM1/DM2 tags, I would guess DM1 was their first internal production batch, which was successful for demos and further testing. DM2+ are the general consumer batches.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 560
February 14, 2018, 02:19:38 PM
Enough people purchased it that they don't need the PR in the form of expedited units for anyone at this point.

When the product arrives as advertised, that's all the PR they'll need to solidify their stance as a reliable company.


Im gonna have to disagree with that. Even if the product arrives as advertised they have still proven they dont know how to function as a retail company. I wouldn't give a 5 million dollar order to a company that acts this shady and uncommunicative. I mean their main distributor says he doesn't even knows hes a distributor? There are still too many red flags with how the company has been run these past few months.
member
Activity: 181
Merit: 53
February 14, 2018, 02:07:45 PM
They didn't give me 'green light' when I asked if I could buy one demo unit for a review,
so I doubt I will be reviewing a DragonMint miner.

They also said very clearly that Halong doesn't care about PR.

They think they will sell enough hardware with no review whatsoever, which is most likely the fact, sadly.

Enough people purchased it that they don't need the PR in the form of expedited units for anyone at this point.

When the product arrives as advertised, that's all the PR they'll need to solidify their stance as a reliable company.
full member
Activity: 462
Merit: 118
February 14, 2018, 01:23:13 PM
There will be a tight performance competition between Halong Mining and Canaan Creative.

We don't know yet about Bitmain plans for the next Antminer generation.

Halong Mining Dragonmint T1 16Th/s, advertised hash rate is 16 Th/s and power consumption is 1480W.
Power efficiency would then equal 1480 / 16000 = 0.0925 J per Gh/s.
Delivery time frame: March-April 2018.

Canaan Creative AvalonMiner 841, advertised hash rate is 13 Th/s and power consumption is 1200W.
Power efficiency would then equal 1200 / 13000 = 0.0923 J per Gh/s.
Delivery time frame: March-April 2018.


Hmmm I dont think dragon, bitmain or canaan will be competing much. It wont matter unless btc rise alot again. The asic manufacturers are forgetting that people buy to profit or at least break even. Antminers S9s are not selling for some time now. Difficulty is too high and set to go higher with so many new miners coming in. If bitcoin has to skyrocket just for mining to have some decent profit, then, it makes more sense to buy bitcoin than to mine it.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1710
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
February 14, 2018, 10:30:23 AM
They didn't give me 'green light' when I asked if I could buy one demo unit for a review,
so I doubt I will be reviewing a DragonMint miner.

They also said very clearly that Halong doesn't care about PR.

They think they will sell enough hardware with no review whatsoever, which is most likely the fact, sadly.
full member
Activity: 658
Merit: 118
February 14, 2018, 09:57:51 AM
If CK says they're real, seems like there is definitely a miner there.

Will look forward to a Hagsfin review of one.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1710
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
February 14, 2018, 09:42:45 AM
In a earlier DragonMint miner picture that I've seen, the miner was labeled as "DM1".


DM1 miner. Click for a bigger version.

In those pictures you now posted we can see them labeled as "DM2".
Any idea if it is just a production batch number or if there are any differences between models DM1 and DM2?


DM2 miner in a cardboard box. Click for a bigger version.
member
Activity: 181
Merit: 53
February 14, 2018, 09:13:31 AM
Pallet/box pictures!




They're waiting for more stock to ship them out.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1710
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
February 14, 2018, 07:57:00 AM
There will be a tight performance competition between Halong Mining and Canaan Creative.

We don't know yet about Bitmain plans for the next Antminer generation.

Halong Mining Dragonmint T1 16Th/s, advertised hash rate is 16 Th/s and power consumption is 1480W.
Power efficiency would then equal 1480 / 16000 = 0.0925 J per Gh/s.
Delivery time frame: March-April 2018.

Canaan Creative AvalonMiner 841, advertised hash rate is 13 Th/s and power consumption is 1200W.
Power efficiency would then equal 1200 / 13000 = 0.0923 J per Gh/s.
Delivery time frame: March-April 2018.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
February 14, 2018, 07:48:58 AM
Does it help if I say these are real? I can't speak for their production targets times costs etc. but they do hash uniquely different and I've helped work with them remotely.


Thanks for input. 
Pages:
Jump to: