Topic: DragonMint T1 16TH/S halongmining.com - page 71. (Read 87776 times)

Well any publicity is good publicity they say.

I still think it was a shitty way of dealing with people.

It does show that people are still to easy going tossing their money around with unproven projects, when they were able to sell 3 batches before anything  even remotely verifiable had come out.

Best of luck to anyone ordering or expecting this Miner.

Why that email from Yoshi stating he wasn’t aware he was a distributor when he is the one creating these test videos? What the hell...

yeah  it is going to be real gear.  and I figured out why  they did the campaign like this.  the thread drew far more attention this way  then with a simple  true demo. The wait for April release.


My thoughts are now when I get the 4-5 units from Yoshi  in early April  will btc be at 4000 or 9000 usd?

 and will bitmain  have a 22th miner doing 1400 watts ?

Other then that  I do look forward to using it.

Yeah - finally what I was praying in here. I dont say they ship, but its not proofed scam and more legit then not for now.
But price examples are not 100% right.
Last batch of S9 was USD 2320 without PSU.

Still the efficiency is higher with Halong (for now).
And if you pre-ordered the black friday batch with Halong it was unbeatable cheap.
At the end the Halong will run some month more then the S9 (before non profit end because of power-/maintaince-fee) and will be delivered (maybe) some month later.

Under the line, for now, I see no disadvantages on the calculation layer.
But lets see how cheap S9 will become in April or if S11 is maybe introduced soon?
S9 to Dragon16T -- just put them in a ROI calculator, but 16T will run approx. 6-12 month longer before fee-cap happens. (if we can trust the power values we got!)



Thank you for those links/posts


P.S.: About Innosilicon I will post my experience in here soon. They seem to be nice, but they already did mistakes during the order process. Lets see if they really shipped my A6 before the chinese holiday like promised!?  
I hope it was not timeplay to get over the chinese holiday and to send them end of the month. A bit disappointed for now, but lets rate at the end

I created a couple of threads for the new 2 miners, since that discussion doesn't seem to belong here:

B29: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dragonmint-b29-blake256-miner-decred-2889757
B52: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dragonmint-b52-blake2b-miner-sia-coin-2889735

Still no transparent proof about the hardware, but hey, it did not stop Halong from releasing a third Dragonmint miner model already.  

They now say they have a Bitcoin miner, Siacoin miner and also a Decred miner coming.

edit:
But I have to give them credit for releasing this video featuring Yoshi from Myrig.com company (formerly BitmainWarranty).

Phil, since you know Yoshi better, what do you think about this video?
https://twitter.com/HalongMining/status/960804550184611840

At this point I'm leaning towards legit a little more (before I was on the 100% scam side). I would still not order from them. Remember for example the Innosilicon DashMaster? It was legit, but it shipped months late and nobody made money, except Innosilicon of course. By the time dragonmints ship, even if it's on time, people that pre-ordered could have bought S9s at $1450 and be close to ROI already after December and January high profits. No pre-sales for me, thanks.

Yeah but car stereos are standardized by manufacturer consensus. A no-name coming out of no-where and advertising something whose only visible components thus far are identical to what's being manufactured by known competitors from a country with little respect for IP rights, you gotta admit leaves a lot of question marks. It could easily point to somewhere between "rebadging" and "stealing", neither of which are "innovating".

I mean if all your "proof" photographs have someone else's controllers in them, and what looks like the exact same housings and heatsinks as someone else's machines, and the parts which would absolutely have to be your design to prove this thing was real are nowhere to be seen - honestly, I'm flat broke compared to almost everyone else on these forums but even I have never asked for a dime in sales without presenting irrefutable proof of functional electronics. Even if it was a scam it'd take what, a thousand bucks and about two days' work to fake a set of hashboards.

I didn't want to say anything until I'd gotten a response from them, but eh whatever. The other day I dropped Halong a line via the "Contact Us" on their website asking about sample chips. The market sector I target isn't exactly their competition, and honestly the market sector I target stands a chance of becoming their customers after getting their feet wet on my entry-level miners. Plus having someone trusted able to say the chips do in fact exist and appear to work as advertised would go a long way to proving their legitimacy. Haven't heard back yet, it's only been a day or so, but I'll keep y'all posted.

Correct.  Hence starting the reply with "tough call" and not stating any form of conclusion.

Looking at the front face is not at all conclusive of anything. Those are just front connectors that could be connected to anything or nothing.

Same way you can swap out your car stereo.

Tough call. The front face of the housing for the controller board looks identical:

SD card slot next to an ip reset next to the RJ45 next to a reset next to two verticals lights

so we got cases and some heat sinks, where are the hashing boards? Maybe we can get a video of those in higher resolution. None-the-less, they are going a step farther than Syan ever did...either more a more elaborate hoax or they could just be real. I hope for the latter.

This doesn't look like an s9 assembly line. But they don't look to be a big company either from the pics. If anything, "Halong Mining" is probably either a subsidiary of Innosilicon or better yet, they are buying S9 parts (remember that little Bitmain lawsuit drama that was conveniently tied with the release of this miner?) and developing their own firmware and different settings. Either way, this is gonna be a very fun ride to the bottom of profittability soon. Probably gonna have to move to Russia soon lol. Anything above 0.05$ per KW is probably not going to break even in a year.

That would be me and my post with a thorough comparison with pictures (see my previous posts at previous page).

It is same control board as in the Innosilicon A4+, A5 and A6.

As you are definitely the number one man here at the forum when it comes to mining hardware, what do you think about those exactly similar design details (including both software and hardware) ?

So, is there anything in those pictures that we can guarantee aren't photos snuck from an S9 assembly line? Even the control board someone mentioned earlier was exactly a control board from some other existing miner.

100% agree with you on that.  Whether or not it comes out  and is nice gear it was a bizarre promotion for sure

A high level of apprehension is natural with any new company that pops up selling preorders, I can't blame you on that one. Halong could of approached things differently on certain matters for sure. This is especially true with the amount of scams that happened and continue to pop up on the daily all over the world. I was personally sold on the product when I saw it in person early on last month, as Scott lives pretty close to me.

This is the type of stuff they need to push out. A few (or a ton of!) DragonMint logos would be good too

I’d happily eat crap for the negativity I have said for this company. But they have followed the “how not to do business 101” book to a tee so far.

The one reason that comes to mind is that they care more of their competitive advantage then if some thread on BT is crying for more screenshots. There is some reason why their miner is 20% better than Bitmain's and if there is even a minuscule chance that advantage can be compromised by sending their miner for a review why on earth would they risk it? They can already sell far, far more then they can produce, and it will not change for a long time, certainly not until they send batch#1 to customers.

cool. that's a little more like it.

what is constantly blowing my mind with this whole thing is their failure to go the final few centimetres and put more doubts to bed. even if they don't need to publicize i'd still do it to get people to be quiet.