Topic: DragonMint T1 16TH/S halongmining.com - page 78. (Read 87857 times)
Also, they never close their orders, there is a secret page to order 50+ units for "april 3 delivery" that has remained open. PM me if you want the link.
I still can't figure out why the demo is only behind closed curtains? 
Is it for scamming purposes?
Or is it to keep in secret that Innosilicon has participated in this miner manufacturing? (see my previous posts in this thread)
Is it for scamming purposes?
Or is it to keep in secret that Innosilicon has participated in this miner manufacturing? (see my previous posts in this thread)
One can obviously only speculate at this point but if it is an Inno design or similar situation to the A1 days then maybe they do fear competition, not from Bitmain or Avalon but from others who may have access to Inno's chip/design or whatever. Perhaps they don't have or couldn't get an exclusive with Inno?
If they own the IP they have I can't see any logical reason to be soooo secretive. If Inno owns it and has or is selling to others then perhaps they don't want their competition to see how they made it work?
I don't know, this whole thing is so fucking weird TBH and with the limited information around it does make it hard to figure out what exactly is going on!
I still can't figure out why the demo is only behind closed curtains?
Is it for scamming purposes?
Or is it to keep in secret that Innosilicon has participated in this miner manufacturing? (see my previous posts in this thread)
Is it for scamming purposes?
Or is it to keep in secret that Innosilicon has participated in this miner manufacturing? (see my previous posts in this thread)
batch 4 and still nobody has seen a functioning miner? hmmm.
Not true. But its an obligation to confidentiality.
Ask Yoshi for a demo ...
If they will mass produce and deliver, we will see. That is another task and quest
But a working demo was approved by Jan Braiins (CEO @Slushpool)
batch 4 and still nobody has seen a functioning miner? hmmm.
With batch four they are not requiring the purchase of 5 units, which helps me think that it is not as much of a scam. On the other hand, similar to Syan, Halong is selling more often than Bitmain, which in my opinion, is a red flag for a scam.
Seems like demo day came and went as expected.
And as expected, nothing came from it right? Juz hype and talk
I'll have to go along with Steamtyme. No miner no money.
It has the hallmarks of Syan Mining (recent scam) with units being pushed and not selling out just before........... It's all a bit worrying and yes agree batch 4 before even 1 was delivered, even 1 person could switch it on or even sign for the delivery. They seem legit but so has many before them so it is of great concern at this point.
Hi There,
DragonMint 16T Miner (April Batch 4) is now back in stock at Halong Mining. You have been sent this email because your email address was registered on a waitlist for this product.
If you would like to purchase DragonMint 16T Miner (April Batch 4) please visit the following link: https://halongmining.com/shop/dragonmint-16t-miner/
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DragonMint 16T Miner (April Batch 4) is now back in stock at Halong Mining. You have been sent this email because your email address was registered on a waitlist for this product.
If you would like to purchase DragonMint 16T Miner (April Batch 4) please visit the following link: https://halongmining.com/shop/dragonmint-16t-miner/
USD wires are possible though MyRig Inc by completing this form: https://halongmining.com/customer-information/
I'm sorry I've lost count is this now the 3rd release that they've had?
Considering I've been following the thread since close to the beginning I can't say I'm shocked, but this is a bold play for a company who has yet to produce a single retail unit or give any sort of guarantee to their customers.
And why oh why is it constantly a brand new account or some other variation bringing in these great opportunities, and in the right thread. Considering most first time posters can't even find the right section to make their first post.
No one send them anymore money until at least the first batch has shipped out
Yoshi has always made good to me on every deal I did with him.
Sometimes slow but always good.
So I will wait and not call it a scam.
If he makes good on the deal I have with him I will post so. My deal is for 4-5 miners. In late March early April.
I can wait to pay until Late March.
I can use pp or cc.
So I don’t have anything to say until late March.
Once I pay I will post.
Once they ship I will post.
So sixty days from now I will post here.
Sometimes slow but always good.
So I will wait and not call it a scam.
If he makes good on the deal I have with him I will post so. My deal is for 4-5 miners. In late March early April.
I can wait to pay until Late March.
I can use pp or cc.
So I don’t have anything to say until late March.
Once I pay I will post.
Once they ship I will post.
So sixty days from now I will post here.
Hey Phil, thanks for sticking your neck out on this one. I actually hope it works out in the end and we have 1 more option to work with when buying miners (and it hopefully forces Bitmain to stop being dicks to all of us)
And the first thing I'd think is that the logo has been added in Photoshop after the pictures have been taken. Am I the only one who noticed this weird thing?
Good catch. It is not that it is a conclusive proof of anything, it could be that they did not bother getting a decal for their prototype, and faked it instead.
Here is another: A whois-enquiry on halongmining.com brings absolutely zero contact info, their domain is registered via a company Contact Privacy Inc. in Toronto, that is there to ensure anonymity. Not a good sign IMHO.
For the record, myrig.com is registered anonymously via WHOIS PRIVACY PROTECTION SERVICE, INC. But at least those guys have some contact info on their website. Their office address in Colorado is the same as old bitmainwarranty.com which apparently was a legit company repairing miners (but not connected to Bitmain despite their name). So that could bring some real brick and mortar support for the case ,at least if someone in Colorado goes to their office and checks.
myrig office address is a mailboxes etc or kinko's. They just receive stuff there. Still, they are a legit company.
And also... they just rebranded recently... so MyRig.com is the new name for Bitmain Warranty. I assume Bitmain sent them a cease and desist on the name.
Yoshi has always made good to me on every deal I did with him.
Sometimes slow but always good.
...
So sixty days from now I will post here.
Sometimes slow but always good.
...
So sixty days from now I will post here.
Appreciate that from my perspective. I'll be watching closely.
I am following this closely, Honestly, I don't think this is gonna end well. So many things sound too familiar with the Vega miners etc etc. The only difference is this thing was "kinda vouched for" by Adam Back, who is looking more and more likely to lose some cred at this point.
I think the risk of fraud is impossible or improbable, that is impossible because there is half the world in their footsteps, therefore, the guys from Halongmining and partners like Myrig and his supporters will not run away with the buyers' money, there is only one small probability or suspect that they can, instead, fill their bank accounts by playing with the money of others in trading or mining before the deliveries are completed, means that this hardware before being delivered will be used in their farms for at least 1 month generating profit for in the following, to be sent to the addresses of the buyers, moreover, the price is almost doubled from the day of the announcement. All to the detriment of decentralization and good social intentions of which the cryptocurrencies and the blockchain want to be the cornerstone.I'm not here to explain, but only to contribute to the chaos, because this is the side effect of their business policy.
BFL had 100x the exposure. GAW miners and paycoin even more.
Yeah. They really can walk with all your BTC, even with this exposure
Granted, I would love for DragonMiners to do the damn thing.
Seems like demo day came and went as expected.
Yep.As in ZERO information resulting from it.
And Halong just keeps the waving the SCAM flags harder and harder....
Seems like demo day came and went as expected.
Yeah.
What is weird IMO at the moment is....
This:
Yup because guys like you can't go zooming in. You can clearly tell its not an S9.... Wait til the video/pictures come out. Cheers.
And then this, after I finally got a better look at the dragonmint:
And another design comparison here (pay attention to the controller with this image as well): https://i.imgur.com/a9sZcJa.jpg
I surely can't be the only one who sees these similiar design details?
One detail to also pay attention is that the Innosilicon control board uses reversed PWM signal for the cooling fan control.
This method is not that commonly used.
Delta TFC1212DE are cooling fans that are controlled with a reversed PWM signal.
DragonMint and Innosilicon A4+, A5 miners use these cooling fans.
This detail also supports my theory.
What is weird IMO at the moment is....
This:
400x267 pixels picture. Really?
Yup because guys like you can't go zooming in. You can clearly tell its not an S9.... Wait til the video/pictures come out. Cheers.
And then this, after I finally got a better look at the dragonmint:
This partnership with Myrig.com is the most positive thing that has happened so far,
but I'm affraid their retail price will be really really high, the same as with the S9 miners.
Some new images are uploaded in the Myrig.com shop.
I managed to find the high-res images, they were 'hidden'.
See this Imgur album for the picture found at DragonMint product page: https://imgur.com/a/WaHLd
We can finally have a slightly little better look at the miner.
For cooling there seems to be two pieces Delta TFC1212DE, front and back, in a push-pull configuration.
And I think I now know why the miner web configuration page was just like with the Innosilicon A5 and A4+.
The DragonMint miner has the exact same controller board.
See it for yourself, here is a picture for comparison: https://i.imgur.com/jxHeSP6.jpg
Also the steel case tube looks a lot like the one Innosilicon uses for the A5 and A4+.
Maybe the Halong Mining actually has a subcontract for these miners to be manufactured by Innosilicon?
but I'm affraid their retail price will be really really high, the same as with the S9 miners.
Some new images are uploaded in the Myrig.com shop.
I managed to find the high-res images, they were 'hidden'.
See this Imgur album for the picture found at DragonMint product page: https://imgur.com/a/WaHLd
We can finally have a slightly little better look at the miner.
For cooling there seems to be two pieces Delta TFC1212DE, front and back, in a push-pull configuration.
And I think I now know why the miner web configuration page was just like with the Innosilicon A5 and A4+.
The DragonMint miner has the exact same controller board.
See it for yourself, here is a picture for comparison: https://i.imgur.com/jxHeSP6.jpg
Also the steel case tube looks a lot like the one Innosilicon uses for the A5 and A4+.
Maybe the Halong Mining actually has a subcontract for these miners to be manufactured by Innosilicon?
And another design comparison here (pay attention to the controller with this image as well): https://i.imgur.com/a9sZcJa.jpg
I surely can't be the only one who sees these similiar design details?
One detail to also pay attention is that the Innosilicon control board uses reversed PWM signal for the cooling fan control.
This method is not that commonly used.
Delta TFC1212DE are cooling fans that are controlled with a reversed PWM signal.
DragonMint and Innosilicon A4+, A5 miners use these cooling fans.
This detail also supports my theory.
So first we have promojo claiming to have a unit and talking it up.
He disappears.
Then Scott shows up claiming to have a unit but claiming he doesnt work directly for them. Then we find out he controls Halongs sales email.
He disappears.
Now a new halongmining account appears making even more claims.
How long until this account goes silent?
P.S. The general consensus from the big players at BTC Miami is that halong is 100% a scam. We couldnt find anyone that believed they had an actual product.
He disappears.
Then Scott shows up claiming to have a unit but claiming he doesnt work directly for them. Then we find out he controls Halongs sales email.
He disappears.
Now a new halongmining account appears making even more claims.
How long until this account goes silent?
P.S. The general consensus from the big players at BTC Miami is that halong is 100% a scam. We couldnt find anyone that believed they had an actual product.
And the first thing I'd think is that the logo has been added in Photoshop after the pictures have been taken. Am I the only one who noticed this weird thing?
Good catch. It is not that it is a conclusive proof of anything, it could be that they did not bother getting a decal for their prototype, and faked it instead.
Here is another: A whois-enquiry on halongmining.com brings absolutely zero contact info, their domain is registered via a company Contact Privacy Inc. in Toronto, that is there to ensure anonymity. Not a good sign IMHO.
For the record, myrig.com is registered anonymously via WHOIS PRIVACY PROTECTION SERVICE, INC. But at least those guys have some contact info on their website. Their office address in Colorado is the same as old bitmainwarranty.com which apparently was a legit company repairing miners (but not connected to Bitmain despite their name). So that could bring some real brick and mortar support for the case ,at least if someone in Colorado goes to their office and checks.
myrig office address is a mailboxes etc or kinko's. They just receive stuff there. Still, they are a legit company.
And the first thing I'd think is that the logo has been added in Photoshop after the pictures have been taken. Am I the only one who noticed this weird thing?
Good catch. It is not that it is a conclusive proof of anything, it could be that they did not bother getting a decal for their prototype, and faked it instead.
Here is another: A whois-enquiry on halongmining.com brings absolutely zero contact info, their domain is registered via a company Contact Privacy Inc. in Toronto, that is there to ensure anonymity. Not a good sign IMHO.
For the record, myrig.com is registered anonymously via WHOIS PRIVACY PROTECTION SERVICE, INC. But at least those guys have some contact info on their website. Their office address in Colorado is the same as old bitmainwarranty.com which apparently was a legit company repairing miners (but not connected to Bitmain despite their name). So that could bring some real brick and mortar support for the case ,at least if someone in Colorado goes to their office and checks.
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