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legendary
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One of these days when the dust has settled, we'll maybe know the story behind these people and what the forum and the fights on it meant to them each personally.

OG and Vod have this legendary rivalry that keeps popping up in the forum. Lauda has now long gone. New players keep dropping in and leaving. How can one forget QS? I wish someone someday will make a documentary about it all. Hope the narrative will be how things happened and not a biased viewpoint.

Often through these debates, it has always seemed like one man's truth was another man's lie.
legendary
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Interesting.  I've been here two and half years, yet I have no trouble finding information about the trust system:

May 21, 2013: Marketplace trust
January 9, 2019: DefaultTrust changes
June 11, 2019: Trust flags

Also interesting that OgNasty was sending trust ratings on the very first day the trust system was announced despite not knowing anything about it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=18321;page=sent;offset=340
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That’s because I was here before it was created and no information or notification was given prior to it being created. Therefore nobody knew what it was at the time and had to search out information on it once it appeared. Thanks for also sharing your ignorance. It’s great to be attacked by people who have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about, which is how I’d describe my last several years here. So much facepalm. If only people were knowledgeable enough to realize it. You’d be better served listening to my experience and learning from it than trying to pick it apart with semantics.

Interesting.  I've been here two and half years, yet I have no trouble finding information about the trust system:

May 21, 2013: Marketplace trust
January 9, 2019: DefaultTrust changes
June 11, 2019: Trust flags

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Your lack of experience on this forum is showing again.
Lol. If you want me to respond to this, please create a topic in which it's not off-topic.

The best part is that right after he says you have no experience, he proceeds to explain how his lack of knowledge of how the system works is his excuse for misusing it.

Priceless.

That’s because I was here before it was created and no information or notification was given prior to it being created. Therefore nobody knew what it was at the time and had to search out information on it once it appeared. Thanks for also sharing your ignorance. It’s great to be attacked by people who have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about, which is how I’d describe my last several years here. So much facepalm. If only people were knowledgeable enough to realize it. You’d be better served listening to my experience and learning from it than trying to pick it apart with semantics.
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Your lack of experience on this forum is showing again.
Lol. If you want me to respond to this, please create a topic in which it's not off-topic.

The best part is that right after he says you have no experience, he proceeds to explain how his lack of knowledge of how the system works is his excuse for misusing it.

Priceless.
legendary
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Your lack of experience on this forum is showing again.
Lol. If you want me to respond to this, please create a topic in which it's not off-topic.
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The entire trust/flags system has gone to absolute shit. It doubled the amount of problems while presenting no solutions or resolution to the existing problem. All of my negative trust ratings stem from me being in DT (which I never asked for and wasn’t even notified of when it was implemented, long before what exists as the trust system today was put in place) and not trusting certain individuals as a result of various negative interactions. The entire DT experience for me, I would describe as someone else signing you up to run for president without your knowledge and then abandoning you once the attack ads start airing on TV.
Why didn't you ask theymos to remove you from DT1 if you didn't want it?
In the current system you can very easily opt out of DT1 by emptying your Trust list. Or asking theymos to blacklist you from DT1. This won't stop you from being on DT2 though, that's still up to DT1.

Your lack of experience on this forum is showing again.  I was never notified or told I was being put on default trust or ever given any kind of explanation of it.  There was no opting out.  I learned what DT was and that I was in it when I started being attacked for it by scammers which puts me in a unique position of easily identifying who the nefarious users on this site are.  I was confused why I was being attacked since I had nothing but positive interactions here through half a decade of daily trades/escrows, but knew all of my ratings and trust activity was honest, so I didn't worry as I assumed theymos would have my back for exposing myself and my family to hate on satoshi's forum's behalf (I now see I was used as a scapegoat).  As the years passed, more and more of these users harboring resentment for me joined up building trust connections and waiting to attack, which is what we saw as soon as theymos changed the trust network empowering nefarious users to attack those who had put in years of effort trying to keep this place from becoming what it is now.  An unsafe atmosphere that no legitimate project could ever flourish in.  

If someone like myself, who has safeguarded tens (hundreds?) of millions of dollars for others without a single legitimate complaint can have their narrative changed by an alcoholic with severe brain issues who can't hold a minimum wage job and a housewife taking out frustrations from her unhappy marriage on forum users, there is a clear failure from the top down.  This is what we're seeing here and as much as you'd like to see me pull a philipma1957 and cop out on my trust to avoid personal harassment so you and your buddies can have near complete control of the trust network, I don't feel that is the right thing to do for the forum.  If I only cared about myself, sure, being in DT is a thankless job that will get your family harassed, your motivations constantly questioned, and there is no upside or anyone in the administration who will stand up for you.  Luckily for me, I've got the time, am fearless, and I owe it to Bitcoin that helped me become blessed beyond expectation to continue fighting the good fight.  If you want me out of DT, keep pushing the narrative.  There will eventually be enough ignorant users here that have been bamboozled into thinking I'm not fighting for what is right here at my own expense.  I'm actually routing for you to achieve this goal on the inside as it would make my life easier, but I will continue doing what is right, even long after I am removed from DT because my role with this account is not to act in the best interests of myself personally, or theymos, or anyone else.  I am here for Bitcoin.  
legendary
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In all honesty I was quite enjoying reading the tussle to and fro so am somewhat disappointed not to find those posts here any more Grin

I decided to not post and give my views about the issue of contention that you raised about biased trust and feedback which resulted in the profanities you posted but they had a non-English grammatical element about them and though I should not have I did enjoy reading them just due to the comical factor. It is a self-moderated thread so the OP is well within his rights to delete posts that he deems contrary to the thread subject or that he simply wants to delete but I would have kept them up for a while longer.

Why refer to the OP as an elk? Where is the correlation? You do not endear yourself to others with this sort of conduct, kindly consider calming down modifying your stance.


What is false about the feedback they left you?


look above and will find answer, elk deleted my posts
legendary
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If that's the case, can we do something about the 100% of negative trust feed-backs (and quite a few neutral ones too) I've received that are all retaliatory?
No we can't. Trust isn't moderated, you only have positive and neutral feedback from DT, so I see no reason any of those users should be excluded for that.

The entire DT experience for me, I would describe as someone else signing you up
Why didn't you ask theymos to remove you from DT1 if you didn't want it?
In the current system you can very easily opt out of DT1 by emptying your Trust list. Or asking theymos to blacklist you from DT1. This won't stop you from being on DT2 though, that's still up to DT1.
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If that's the case, can we do something about the 100% of negative trust feed-backs (and quite a few neutral ones too) I've received that are all retaliatory?

So you are not just the village idiot, but also a hypocrite. You complain about your received negative and also neutral feedbacks, "all retaliatory" (although this is not the case), and yet this is what you also do.


I asked you several times, why don't you answer to these questions, you imbecile troll?

Where was I trolling? Where did I spread FUD? Are you that imbecile?
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... DUH - MY BAD ...

What happened I.R.L. in February?  That's when the schism started.
legendary
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Didn't you send a PM only a week or two back to someone or other swearing absolutely that you'd never EVER read or reply to another post of mine EVER (and then went into a long winded rant about my good self)

No. But I admit that reading your post here was a mistake... it's becoming quite obvious that you're just pinging me for no other reason than to make more shit up about me.

... I was responding to the OP, so I'm on topic.

That's not how it works.

Edit: grammar.
legendary
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The entire DT experience for me, I would describe as someone else signing you up to run for president without your knowledge and then abandoning you once the attack ads start airing on TV.

Ah, so you've watched the series "Watchmen" ??

Good.  The one who thought he was the smartest ended up causing the most destruction.




... wishful thinking ...

Didn't you send a PM only a week or two back to someone or other swearing absolutely that you'd never EVER read or reply to another post of mine EVER (and then went into a long winded rant about my good self)

Be honest.




I no longer find suchmoon interesting.  Besides, ...

... I was responding to the OP, so I'm on topic.

Next.
legendary
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If that's the case, can we do something about the 100% of negative trust feed-backs (and quite a few neutral ones too) I've received that are all retaliatory?

You don't have DT red trust and the neutral ones are very restrained considering baseless accusations you're throwing around, like the recent one against webtricks. It's only a matter of time until you get a fully deserved DT red trust but who cares... you're off topic here anyway.
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I seem to recall asking @theymos for clarification in that thread at that time, but like all missives from theymos, it went unanswered.

The entire trust/flags system has gone to absolute shit. It doubled the amount of problems while presenting no solutions or resolution to the existing problem. All of my negative trust ratings stem from me being in DT (which I never asked for and wasn’t even notified of when it was implemented, long before what exists as the trust system today was put in place) and not trusting certain individuals as a result of various negative interactions. The entire DT experience for me, I would describe as someone else signing you up to run for president without your knowledge and then abandoning you once the attack ads start airing on TV.
legendary
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Rmcdermott927 u=289011 is taking a "leave of absence" and "may not come back" https://archive.vn/HetwS
So right before he left the forum he decided to abuse his DT1-power by leaving suchmoon (abusive) negative feedback for his/her opinion?

I no longer find suchmoon interesting.  Besides, over the last few months I have studied the "why's" various users have negatives and posted those observations in this thread - I don't follow the squabbles going on in DT1 unless there's ample salt, butter and popped-corn on offer (and sadly there hasn't been any of that these last twelve months)

The system is for handling trade risk, not for flagging people for good/bad posts/personalities/ideas.

It looks like he's being held on DT1 by an excluded DT1-member, if he's inactive he should drop off DT at the next reshuffle.

Great! 

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by leaving suchmoon (abusive) negative feedback for his/her opinion?

If that's the case, can we do something about the 100% of negative trust feed-backs (and quite a few neutral ones too) I've received that are all retaliatory?

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The system is for handling trade risk, not for flagging people for good/bad posts/personalities/ideas.

I seem to recall asking @theymos for clarification in that thread at that time, but like all missives from theymos, it went unanswered.
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realy? Shocked
you not see some starange feedbacks in my trust list from dt users that you support?
and they not abuse))
or what?
What is false about the feedback they left you?
Arrogance aside, the real truth is you are very manipulative Peloso and you should never be trusted by any trader. You tried to manipulate DT at one point and you are also a staunch liar
legendary
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Reminder:
The system is for handling trade risk, not for flagging people for good/bad posts/personalities/ideas.


realy? Shocked
you not see some starange feedbacks in my trust list from dt users that you support?
and they not abuse))
or what?

mindrust
LFC_Bitcoin he is lie
Vod
TMAN he is fucked off but his trust power
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legendary
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Was it for opinion? Hard to tell from the reference link Grin
A "negative presence" sounds like an opinion Wink
legendary
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So right before he left the forum he decided to abuse his DT1-power by leaving suchmoon (abusive) negative feedback for his/her opinion?

Was it for opinion? Hard to tell from the reference link Grin
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