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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 25, 2021, 11:43:30 PM

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 24, 2021, 10:50:11 PM

We are talking about a region, where giving driving licenses to women is considered as revolutionary. Although the UAE is not as conservative as Saudi Arabia or Kuwait, it is unrealistic to expect that they legalize gambling. If tourists want to visit UAE, then they should concentrate more about the duty free shops and artificial islands, rather than the illegal casinos. For gambling, the tourists can visit Morocco (for budget gamblers) or Monaco (for the more affluent gamblers), which are not too far away.

What driving license? it's about a gambling license.

Yeah.. we are talking about the gambling license. I was just saying that when Saudi Arabia started handing out driving licenses to women, it was lauded as a revolutionary move by the global media. When such a simple move was delayed for many decades due to opposition from the conservatives, you can just imagine what would be the reaction from the religious circles, if anyone suggests to start granting gambling licenses. I know that UAE is much more progressive when compared to Saudi Arabia, but even then talking about permitting gambling is taking it to another entirely different level.

I thought that most of the countries are now fighting for equality in terms of women's empowerment. That's why I thought that you're saying off-topic and it's not related to the gambling license that I've said before.
But thanks for that more precise explanation and I need to improve my comprehension too.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 25, 2021, 08:18:59 AM

Alcohol consumption, watching porn, gambling.etc are personal preferences. The governments should stay out of this. Gone are the days when the authorities could dictate each and every aspect of our personal lives. If someone wants to gamble, then let him do that. Why the government wants to prevent that, as long as no manipulation or tax evasion is involved? By imposing these stupid bans, the governments are making themselves a laughing stock. Recently India imposed a ban on porn. Can you believe it? Now Indians need to purchase a VPN in order to access porn sites. And from what I have heard, the porn consumption in India went up after the ban was imposed. Same with gambling as well. Issues with gambling addiction are more common in countries where it is officially banned.

When people often access things like that and get prohibited from accessing those things, people will search for a way to help them access, even if they need to purchase a VPN that can make them access the sites. Maybe the government does that because they do not want to see their people will busy with unnecessary things or the government have another reason why they block that. We can guess their reason, but we do not know the truth.

Quote from: TheNineClub on May 25, 2021, 08:28:21 AM

But here we are not talking about illegal casinos operating in a smaller capacity or online gambling, the issue stated acknowledges casinos that have more of a tourist attraction vibe to it than anything else. So those types of gambling are not under the table, are widely recognized and accepted by the state. A completely different subject to just gambling on the internet

Maybe it could be accepted by the state if all sides agree to allow gambling in that country. But if the state is prohibited, people who play traditional gambling or often play on the casino, whether legal or illegal, will try to search for the other way to play gambling still. The state will not allow the casino to operate in their country. If you read more on that article, Dubai's police launch an app where people can report suspicious activity. So it is clear that gambling is not allowed in that country.

People who play gambling will use the hidden place to play gambling without anyone knows and even they will play online gambling, which they can access from their gadget.

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Quote from: passwordnow on May 25, 2021, 03:43:54 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 24, 2021, 10:50:11 PM

We are talking about a region, where giving driving licenses to women is considered as revolutionary. Although the UAE is not as conservative as Saudi Arabia or Kuwait, it is unrealistic to expect that they legalize gambling. If tourists want to visit UAE, then they should concentrate more about the duty free shops and artificial islands, rather than the illegal casinos. For gambling, the tourists can visit Morocco (for budget gamblers) or Monaco (for the more affluent gamblers), which are not too far away.

What driving license? it's about a gambling license.

Yeah.. we are talking about the gambling license. I was just saying that when Saudi Arabia started handing out driving licenses to women, it was lauded as a revolutionary move by the global media. When such a simple move was delayed for many decades due to opposition from the conservatives, you can just imagine what would be the reaction from the religious circles, if anyone suggests to start granting gambling licenses. I know that UAE is much more progressive when compared to Saudi Arabia, but even then talking about permitting gambling is taking it to another entirely different level.

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Quote from: mirakal on May 24, 2021, 08:20:18 AM

Quote from: TheNineClub on May 24, 2021, 08:07:09 AM

All I know is that the change will not be sudden, but rather a slow one, if any. However, I don't get all the fascination with gambling in Dubai, because if anything changes, that does not mean the wealthy Dubaians (people who live in Dubai, I guess Cheesy

) will suddenly jump to gambling, and it will more or less be for foreigners. And there are plenty of other places to gamble if you are a foreigner...

Dubai is a progressive country, they can survive even without gambling. If their government is okay, then there's no problem with that as it needs to be regulated. If indeed they are giving license, then it's good news, but how would it affect the religious aspect, Dubai is a Muslim country and gambling is against the law of God.

I have not visited Dubai yet, but if there are gambling casinos already, I might check them out.

Compared to all the surrounding countries yes Dubai is quite progressive. I think many people who live in stricter countries are actually quite glad that Dubai acts as a hub for entertainment and lowers, even if not completely, the barrier and standards of, for example, Saudi Arabia or perhaps Qatar. Do not get me wrong, you can find "banned" activities in all countries, is just a question of keeping things in private an do not put yourself in the position of getting the attention of the authorities.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on May 25, 2021, 05:42:28 PM

Its up to a certain individual on how he would be dealing with it but one things for sure that these behavior cant really be removed.

Just like in any other countries too, there are culprits that hiding from the government's rules.

There is no perfect system nor restrictions that can eliminate something illegal in any country.

The most important thing for these restrictions is at least the government is doing something to lessen the activity of those that are not supposed to be permitted to operate in the first place.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on May 24, 2021, 11:31:21 PM

So what are you talking here? gamblers will never stops playing even if it means they will play illegally because that is at least Habit , choice or addiction.

So yeah different countries has different gambling policies but either they can find the gamblers hiding in their backyard playing or they will just ignore them for some reasons.

Here I have to agree with you. It is futile to ban gambling, because people will indulge in it, one way or the other. If the legal avenues are not there, then they will use the illegal gambling dens and online sites. The question here is whether we want this. It will be much better, if the industry is legal and regulated by the government. Making it illegal will only push the entire sector in to the hands of organized mafias. In every country where gambling is banned you can see the same pattern.

It cant really be stopped because no matter how they do impose restriction there would be always those places or ways on where people could really play.

They are aware with the risk if they've been caught but actually getting rid of it completely is indeed futile but well this is where each country decisions do vary from time to time.

Its up to a certain individual on how he would be dealing with it but one things for sure that these behavior cant really be removed.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 24, 2021, 09:57:43 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on May 24, 2021, 05:02:56 PM

I've searched for some news about gambling there and they're denying that they've given licenses for gambling. Well, it's going to take the time I guess before we see that positive news. The country is at peace and that's why there are various religions there and they were allowed to stay there. And if the government does so what shall be good for its economy, they don't owe them anything. But, they just have to do nothing instead.

It needs time to see the impact of gambling if gambling really opened in that country. The government wants to give the best for their people and try to work hard to do that thing.

There will be for sure a positive impact if it's already rolling. They know what to do and that should be easy and fine to their government but for the meantime, we're all just guessing what's on it and what's with them.

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Quote from: passwordnow on May 24, 2021, 05:02:56 PM

I've searched for some news about gambling there and they're denying that they've given licenses for gambling. Well, it's going to take the time I guess before we see that positive news. The country is at peace and that's why there are various religions there and they were allowed to stay there. And if the government does so what shall be good for its economy, they don't owe them anything. But, they just have to do nothing instead.

We are talking about a region, where giving driving licenses to women is considered as revolutionary. Although the UAE is not as conservative as Saudi Arabia or Kuwait, it is unrealistic to expect that they legalize gambling. If tourists want to visit UAE, then they should concentrate more about the duty free shops and artificial islands, rather than the illegal casinos. For gambling, the tourists can visit Morocco (for budget gamblers) or Monaco (for the more affluent gamblers), which are not too far away.

What driving license? it's about a gambling license.

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Quote from: michellee on May 25, 2021, 07:47:07 AM

Yes, it is. The ease of accessing the internet will make people visit any website, including gambling sites. They will have a chance to continue playing gambling to satisfy their curiosity. If their ISP blocks their access to the gambling site, they can easily find a way to visit the online gambling site. Besides online, they can play gambling in a hidden place because some people can use the illegal casino to play gambling.

Alcohol consumption, watching porn, gambling.etc are personal preferences. The governments should stay out of this. Gone are the days when the authorities could dictate each and every aspect of our personal lives. If someone wants to gamble, then let him do that. Why the government wants to prevent that, as long as no manipulation or tax evasion is involved? By imposing these stupid bans, the governments are making themselves a laughing stock. Recently India imposed a ban on porn. Can you believe it? Now Indians need to purchase a VPN in order to access porn sites. And from what I have heard, the porn consumption in India went up after the ban was imposed. Same with gambling as well. Issues with gambling addiction are more common in countries where it is officially banned.

Haha Imagine in Russia this forum is banned by court order precisely because of gambling. So we are well aware of the absurd laws and strict censorship. In Russia, a ban on the use of VPNs has been discussed for years. So we are not intimidated by the ban on porn, gambling, etc.

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Quote from: michellee on May 25, 2021, 07:47:07 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 25, 2021, 07:01:20 AM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on May 24, 2021, 11:31:21 PM

So what are you talking here? gamblers will never stops playing even if it means they will play illegally because that is at least Habit , choice or addiction.

So yeah different countries has different gambling policies but either they can find the gamblers hiding in their backyard playing or they will just ignore them for some reasons.

Here I have to agree with you. It is futile to ban gambling, because people will indulge in it, one way or the other. If the legal avenues are not there, then they will use the illegal gambling dens and online sites. The question here is whether we want this. It will be much better, if the industry is legal and regulated by the government. Making it illegal will only push the entire sector in to the hands of organized mafias. In every country where gambling is banned you can see the same pattern.

Yes, it is. The ease of accessing the internet will make people visit any website, including gambling sites. They will have a chance to continue playing gambling to satisfy their curiosity. If their ISP blocks their access to the gambling site, they can easily find a way to visit the online gambling site. Besides online, they can play gambling in a hidden place because some people can use the illegal casino to play gambling.

But here we are not talking about illegal casinos operating in a smaller capacity or online gambling, the issue stated acknowledges casinos that have more of a tourist attraction vibe to it than anything else. So those types of gambling are not under the table, are widely recognized and accepted by the state. A completely different subject to just gambling on the internet

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Quote from: michellee on May 25, 2021, 07:47:07 AM

Yes, it is. The ease of accessing the internet will make people visit any website, including gambling sites. They will have a chance to continue playing gambling to satisfy their curiosity. If their ISP blocks their access to the gambling site, they can easily find a way to visit the online gambling site. Besides online, they can play gambling in a hidden place because some people can use the illegal casino to play gambling.

Alcohol consumption, watching porn, gambling.etc are personal preferences. The governments should stay out of this. Gone are the days when the authorities could dictate each and every aspect of our personal lives. If someone wants to gamble, then let him do that. Why the government wants to prevent that, as long as no manipulation or tax evasion is involved? By imposing these stupid bans, the governments are making themselves a laughing stock. Recently India imposed a ban on porn. Can you believe it? Now Indians need to purchase a VPN in order to access porn sites. And from what I have heard, the porn consumption in India went up after the ban was imposed. Same with gambling as well. Issues with gambling addiction are more common in countries where it is officially banned.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 25, 2021, 07:01:20 AM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on May 24, 2021, 11:31:21 PM

So what are you talking here? gamblers will never stops playing even if it means they will play illegally because that is at least Habit , choice or addiction.

So yeah different countries has different gambling policies but either they can find the gamblers hiding in their backyard playing or they will just ignore them for some reasons.

Here I have to agree with you. It is futile to ban gambling, because people will indulge in it, one way or the other. If the legal avenues are not there, then they will use the illegal gambling dens and online sites. The question here is whether we want this. It will be much better, if the industry is legal and regulated by the government. Making it illegal will only push the entire sector in to the hands of organized mafias. In every country where gambling is banned you can see the same pattern.

Yes, it is. The ease of accessing the internet will make people visit any website, including gambling sites. They will have a chance to continue playing gambling to satisfy their curiosity. If their ISP blocks their access to the gambling site, they can easily find a way to visit the online gambling site. Besides online, they can play gambling in a hidden place because some people can use the illegal casino to play gambling.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on May 24, 2021, 11:31:21 PM

So what are you talking here? gamblers will never stops playing even if it means they will play illegally because that is at least Habit , choice or addiction.

So yeah different countries has different gambling policies but either they can find the gamblers hiding in their backyard playing or they will just ignore them for some reasons.

Here I have to agree with you. It is futile to ban gambling, because people will indulge in it, one way or the other. If the legal avenues are not there, then they will use the illegal gambling dens and online sites. The question here is whether we want this. It will be much better, if the industry is legal and regulated by the government. Making it illegal will only push the entire sector in to the hands of organized mafias. In every country where gambling is banned you can see the same pattern.

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Quote from: Xinarae* on May 24, 2021, 11:06:24 PM

Gambling is illegal in the united arab emirates saudi arabia or kuwait gambling is prohibited by the government. Disobeying the government's ban some dishonest people have been holding gambling halls for a long time needless to say everything like alcohol gambling creates social family financial and moral crisis people face multiple harms at present there are different types of gambling venues in different countries. Or a person with any equipment is seen playing or gambling. .

So what are you talking here? gamblers will never stops playing even if it means they will play illegally because that is at least Habit , choice or addiction.

So yeah different countries has different gambling policies but either they can find the gamblers hiding in their backyard playing or they will just ignore them for some reasons.

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Quote from: passwordnow on May 24, 2021, 05:02:56 PM

I've searched for some news about gambling there and they're denying that they've given licenses for gambling. Well, it's going to take the time I guess before we see that positive news. The country is at peace and that's why there are various religions there and they were allowed to stay there. And if the government does so what shall be good for its economy, they don't owe them anything. But, they just have to do nothing instead.

We are talking about a region, where giving driving licenses to women is considered as revolutionary. Although the UAE is not as conservative as Saudi Arabia or Kuwait, it is unrealistic to expect that they legalize gambling. If tourists want to visit UAE, then they should concentrate more about the duty free shops and artificial islands, rather than the illegal casinos. For gambling, the tourists can visit Morocco (for budget gamblers) or Monaco (for the more affluent gamblers), which are not too far away.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 24, 2021, 08:55:19 AM

That is not the way many of the religious bodies are behaving right now. They want the government to follow whatever orders given by them, without any questions. Being a resident of Singapore, I have immensely benefited from the complete separation of religion from politics. In fact I would say that Singapore would not have become one of the richest countries in Asia, if the religious bodies had too much influence. On the other hand, I am a frequent visitor to India and I can see the negative influence of religion in politics. The politicians are forced to bend down to various religious leaders, else they won't get re-elected next time. And that is not just the case with India, but also with most of the countries in South Asia region - Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka.etc.

Yes, it is right what you say. The religious bodies seem to want the government to listen to them, which is happening in many countries. Maybe the religious bodies will not show that thing to the public, but they can secretly contact the government and make a secret meeting without public knowledge.

It is hard for politicians to bend down to the religious leaders because they can not make their own plan to grow the country and help the people.

Quote from: passwordnow on May 24, 2021, 05:02:56 PM

I've searched for some news about gambling there and they're denying that they've given licenses for gambling. Well, it's going to take the time I guess before we see that positive news. The country is at peace and that's why there are various religions there and they were allowed to stay there. And if the government does so what shall be good for its economy, they don't owe them anything. But, they just have to do nothing instead.

It needs time to see the impact of gambling if gambling really opened in that country. The government wants to give the best for their people and try to work hard to do that thing.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 24, 2021, 12:03:06 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on May 23, 2021, 03:09:13 PM

IMHO, they don't have to think of it. They're all approachable and understandable and that's why the religions are there. They're the ones to understand why the government has to do it. As I'm saying, there's no problem that will be made, there's no problem upon approaching. It's easy to approach them because they are the ones to understand why the government has to do it. The management of a country depends on its government and if they're doing that, they have to make it happen and actually, the government doesn't need a go signal from them.

We will see the next news from the government. If the gambling place really opens in that country, it will give additional income for the country and maybe give people new jobs for people who do not have a job.

The government, as the regulator, needs to listen to all people's elements before they decide or make regulations or something like that. It will give peace for all people if they can work together to grows their country.

I've searched for some news about gambling there and they're denying that they've given licenses for gambling. Well, it's going to take the time I guess before we see that positive news. The country is at peace and that's why there are various religions there and they were allowed to stay there. And if the government does so what shall be good for its economy, they don't owe them anything. But, they just have to do nothing instead.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 24, 2021, 12:03:06 AM

Maybe it is not interfering with the government policies, but if the religious bodies can or the government can discuss or talk to each other, it will not misunderstand them.

I observe that misunderstanding is the biggest problem between the government, people's elements, religious bodies, and other societies. Each of them does not want to invite people or another element to discuss to make misunderstanding between them.

That is not the way many of the religious bodies are behaving right now. They want the government to follow whatever orders given by them, without any questions. Being a resident of Singapore, I have immensely benefited from the complete separation of religion from politics. In fact I would say that Singapore would not have become one of the richest countries in Asia, if the religious bodies had too much influence. On the other hand, I am a frequent visitor to India and I can see the negative influence of religion in politics. The politicians are forced to bend down to various religious leaders, else they won't get re-elected next time. And that is not just the case with India, but also with most of the countries in South Asia region - Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka.etc.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on May 24, 2021, 08:07:09 AM

All I know is that the change will not be sudden, but rather a slow one, if any. However, I don't get all the fascination with gambling in Dubai, because if anything changes, that does not mean the wealthy Dubaians (people who live in Dubai, I guess Cheesy

) will suddenly jump to gambling, and it will more or less be for foreigners. And there are plenty of other places to gamble if you are a foreigner...

Dubai is a progressive country, they can survive even without gambling. If their government is okay, then there's no problem with that as it needs to be regulated. If indeed they are giving license, then it's good news, but how would it affect the religious aspect, Dubai is a Muslim country and gambling is against the law of God.

I have not visited Dubai yet, but if there are gambling casinos already, I might check them out.

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All I know is that the change will not be sudden, but rather a slow one, if any. However, I don't get all the fascination with gambling in Dubai, because if anything changes, that does not mean the wealthy Dubaians (people who live in Dubai, I guess Cheesy

) will suddenly jump to gambling, and it will more or less be for foreigners. And there are plenty of other places to gamble if you are a foreigner...

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