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Topic: ✅ DuckDice.io 🎲 Rakeback 🎲 Races 🎲 Faucet 🎲 Deposit Bonus 🎲 Jackpot 🎲 - page 122. (Read 119732 times)

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It was fun as always. Only hope to have my gun loaded next time i join :p
hero member
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To make it clear to those who cannot understand the case, player only deposit 2 BTC, his balance was 2 BTC before claiming the bonus, the bonus come with terms and conditions,
Please translate to readable English what "bonus come with terms and conditions" means?

Bonus terms and conditions:

- Your Balance will be locked while bonus is active.

- You can cancel bonus at any time.

- Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.

According to the bonus rules, bonus was not part of his balance and therefore did not generate the 5 BTC winnings?


...player did not complete the requirement and thus any winning while bonus is active cannot be counted as player profit.
1) Player wants to complete the requirement.

2) Please quote the bonus rules where it says that winnings can not be counted as player profit while bonus is active?

If winnings do not count while bonus is active (as you false and misleading claim), please explain us why his balance was 9,48 BTC (2 BTC deposit, 2.4 BTC bonus, 5.08 BTC winnings)?

Why would anyone cancel the bonus and lose his 5.08 BTC winnings, if his expected loss is only 1 BTC until the wager requirement is fulfilled?

Why would anyone throw $14,000 out of the window, while a betting bot (if necessary) would easily fulfil the wager requirement?

 
Game-protect simply don't understand about HOW THE BONUS WORK,
I understood perfectly how the bonus works!

Bonus terms and conditions:

- Your Balance will be locked while bonus is active.

- You can cancel bonus at any time.

- Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.

What part are you not able to understand?


...we should just ignore the nonsense comments.
You declare their bonus terms and conditions as nonsense?
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This issue has been resolved long ago. People who are still making this issue like a fresh one is just those people that are trying to squeeze something out of Duckdice's mistake, which they professionally admitted(because of suggestions from the community) and is now working to have a better bonus system.

newbie
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Yeah both of them is wrong...
Can you please explain why it is wrong to use a feature offered by a gambling site?

This is no wrong about using this feature. I am just saying you are wrong after everything has passed and fixed

...and OP already fix this by sending his initial balance back.
According to your brainology, if you have a claim of 8.76 BTC and receive 75% less then the issue is fixed?

Are you joking? He deposit only 2 btc and use the bonus to get the profit and cancel it, then he only supposed to get his whole profit? Are you saying this is right thing to do? So I can keep abuse it then, deposit 1 btc and win 10 btc so I will cancel it and get the profit as my bonus?


To make it clear to those who cannot understand the case, player only deposit 2 BTC, his balance was 2 BTC before claiming the bonus, the bonus come with terms and conditions, player did not complete the requirement and thus any winning while bonus is active cannot be counted as player profit. Game-protect simply don't understand about HOW THE BONUS WORK, we should just ignore the nonsense comments.
hero member
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Yeah both of them is wrong...
Can you please explain why it is wrong to use a feature offered by a gambling site?

This is no wrong about using this feature. I am just saying you are wrong after everything has passed and fixed
Yes, you are saying I am wrong, but you are not able to explain why I am wrong?

You just say what you think, but legal assessment does not work based on thoughts as we have over 7 billion thoughts on the earth!

Legal assessment works based on publicly stated and applicable laws, yet you were not able to quote any of those and explain why he has no right to continue to play even though he was misleaded to click the |Cancel Bonus| button?


...and OP already fix this by sending his initial balance back.
According to your brainology, if you have a claim of 8.76 BTC and receive 75% less then the issue is fixed?

Are you joking? He deposit only 2 btc and use the bonus to get the profit and cancel it, then he only supposed to get his whole profit? Are you saying this is right thing to do? So I can keep abuse it then, deposit 1 btc and win 10 btc so I will cancel it and get the profit as my bonus?
How was he able to use the bonus to get the profit while Duckdice's bonus rules stated "Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance." Huh

His balance was 4.4 BTC, how do you determine that he played only with the 2.4 BTC bonus?

And after he won some BTC, how do you determine that he did not play with his winnings and not with his 2 BTC deposit, but only with the the 2.4 BTC bonus?

Was his account balance separated in 2 BTC deposit | 2.4 BTC bonus | 5 BTC winnings and the bets were reduced from the 2.4 BTC bonus?

sr. member
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lets get high!
Is anyone able to log in to the site? I am at the middle of rolling in my session and suddenly my rolls is starting to have huge lags with every rolls and the site seems to be offline now, I have deposit a huge amount of funds to the site and I am getting very worried about my funds now  Sad

Edit: Site seems to be online again and all my funds are safe  Smiley

Sorry for the inconveniences, we were doing our best to inform everyone via chat, since our provider had a network upgrade there was some downtime.

We don't want to intrude in your private life with sending an emails to those who specified them, but maybe next time users would like to receive some major notifications via email?

that would be great as i was always checking my email Smiley
legendary
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Yeah both of them is wrong...
Can you please explain why it is wrong to use a feature offered by a gambling site?

This is no wrong about using this feature. I am just saying you are wrong after everything has passed and fixed

...and OP already fix this by sending his initial balance back.
According to your brainology, if you have a claim of 8.76 BTC and receive 75% less then the issue is fixed?

Are you joking? He deposit only 2 btc and use the bonus to get the profit and cancel it, then he only supposed to get his whole profit? Are you saying this is right thing to do? So I can keep abuse it then, deposit 1 btc and win 10 btc so I will cancel it and get the profit as my bonus?
sr. member
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Is anyone able to log in to the site? I am at the middle of rolling in my session and suddenly my rolls is starting to have huge lags with every rolls and the site seems to be offline now, I have deposit a huge amount of funds to the site and I am getting very worried about my funds now  Sad

Edit: Site seems to be online again and all my funds are safe  Smiley

Sorry for the inconveniences, we were doing our best to inform everyone via chat, since our provider had a network upgrade there was some downtime.

We don't want to intrude in your private life with sending an emails to those who specified them, but maybe next time users would like to receive some major notifications via email?
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Is anyone able to log in to the site? I am at the middle of rolling in my session and suddenly my rolls is starting to have huge lags with every rolls and the site seems to be offline now, I have deposit a huge amount of funds to the site and I am getting very worried about my funds now  Sad

Edit: Site seems to be online again and all my funds are safe  Smiley
hero member
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First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well


I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.
I want to mention also: If you want to claim bonus, you have to wager x55. Isn't this number a lot? Forget that, users even don't have right to cancel bonus. On normal websites user can to try his max and fight for bonus or stop this fight and get current money (without bonus) back, for example like FJ has as I know from my experience.

It was 110x. It has to be 100x plus because the house edge.
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First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well


I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.
I want to mention also: If you want to claim bonus, you have to wager x55. Isn't this number a lot? Forget that, users even don't have right to cancel bonus. On normal websites user can to try his max and fight for bonus or stop this fight and get current money (without bonus) back, for example like FJ has as I know from my experience.
hero member
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Yeah both of them is wrong...
Can you please explain why it is wrong to use a feature offered by a gambling site?

Or do you mean it was Ozafejw782's fault to use the Duckdice scam service? In this case I totally agree with you!


...and OP already fix this by sending his initial balance back.
According to your brainology, if you have a claim of 8.76 BTC and receive 75% less then the issue is fixed?

Show us that you are not lying and in future when you make a withdraw from your bank account or receive a payment, simply take only 25% for you and donate the other 75%.


So why does it does has anything to do woth game-protect?
Game Protect is the only one who assess the case based on publicly stated and applicable laws.


Or may be he just do not understand what I am saying here about the bonus thing
As soon as you show me screenshots of how you donate 75% of your claims or payments received, I will understand what you said here?
legendary
Activity: 1834
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First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well


I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.

Yeah both of them is wrong and OP already fix this by sending his initial balance back. So why does it does has anything to do woth game-protect? He just keep sending FUD here which is unreasonable. About this payment, I think it is fair enough so I do not think that game-protect need to keep on discussing it again and again. Or may be he just do not understand what I am saying here about the bonus thing
sr. member
Activity: 325
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lets get high!

First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well


I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.

As from our side we have cancelled bonuses for this period and reworking bonus rules and algorithm to make them crystal clear and avoid depo lost.

looking forward for the new bonus depo system. cant wait to try it out like the rest of regular players who are patiently waiting for it Smiley
hero member
Activity: 1344
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Yes, it was both sides fault, but I believe this case has been resolved. Everyone is moving on, the player who clicked the cancel button already got back his deposit balance, the player did not complete the wagering requirement and thus the winning should not be counted, the result is fair for both parties. Maybe the so called game-protect just can't understand how the bonus should work?   Huh Or maybe game-protect is trying to get some "donation" from Duckdice by spreading negativity?  Shocked Or maybe something else?
By the way, we can always choose to ignore the nonsense comments from game-protect, nobody knows what are he trying to achieve here.
I disagree that it is customer's fault to use features offered by a gambling site, but I fully agree that it is customer's fault to use the Duckdice scam service!
sr. member
Activity: 1340
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First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well


I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.

As from our side we have cancelled bonuses for this period and reworking bonus rules and algorithm to make them crystal clear and avoid depo lost.
sr. member
Activity: 325
Merit: 250
lets get high!

First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well


I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.

Yes, it was both sides fault, but I believe this case has been resolved. Everyone is moving on, the player who clicked the cancel button already got back his deposit balance, the player did not complete the wagering requirement and thus the winning should not be counted, the result is fair for both parties. Maybe the so called game-protect just can't understand how the bonus should work?   Huh Or maybe game-protect is trying to get some "donation" from Duckdice by spreading negativity?  Shocked Or maybe something else?
By the way, we can always choose to ignore the nonsense comments from game-protect, nobody knows what are he trying to achieve here.

sure ill take your advise, i should ignore this troll Cheesy
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0

First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well


I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.

Yes, it was both sides fault, but I believe this case has been resolved. Everyone is moving on, the player who clicked the cancel button already got back his deposit balance, the player did not complete the wagering requirement and thus the winning should not be counted, the result is fair for both parties. Maybe the so called game-protect just can't understand how the bonus should work?   Huh Or maybe game-protect is trying to get some "donation" from Duckdice by spreading negativity?  Shocked Or maybe something else?
By the way, we can always choose to ignore the nonsense comments from game-protect, nobody knows what are he trying to achieve here.
hero member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 507
it will be part of your balance once you claim the bonus.

for example: initial deposit 2 btc >> claim 120% bonus = he will play 4.4 btc as his actual balance (initial depo + bonus were merged). you can only withdraw the balance "IF" you finish bonus which is unfortunately cancelled by the player at 23% wagered.
If the bonus became part of his balance when he claimed it, then this is in contradiction to their bonus rule and therefore juridically not valid or the add was a gift of the house!

if you can read it back , he "cancelled the bonus", most casino sites forfeit profits from bonus if the player didnt finish clearing the bonus on allotted time (1 month for duckdice bonus system) or bonus was cancelled.
There is a misunderstood on your behalf, he clicked |Cancel Bonus| but duckdice canceled his whole balance!

What most casinos do is absolutely irrelevant for his case, because his case has to be handled based on duckdice's bonus rules and based on the applicable laws.

Did Duckdice inform you about the applicable laws, so we can take a look at it?
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