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legendary
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Anyone tried Mines ? I see people playing it already, but whenever I try placing a bet I've got "An unexpected error occurred. (code 933887)" message. Tried logout/login, but has the same problem. I could have contacted support, but I did not plan to play today seriously, so I will just wait Cheesy I am sure this is temporary, as mines returned today, and the platform is busy polishing everything right now.
hero member
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Not talking about Duelbits but more in general; but sometimes support can be a hit or a miss. I have numerous instances that the first agent couldn't help me out and that, when reopening the ticket, another agent could help me out. Having good costumer support is so important as it can make or break a casino.
Yes, that's true. I often have problem with customer support when I need their help because most of the time they are incompetent. It's sad but companies outsource customer support service in poor countries where people work for low salary and they hire people who know basic English. I have a problem with USA's Amazon that's still unresolved because their support knows nothing.

This is correct, why do we need to rely on customer support if all the details we are trying to find out is already available publicly on the ToS. There’s a lot of incompetent support which might give you a headache once they provide wrong information or not even helpful.

Gladly on Duelbits, Support is always quick to response while they are always friendly to answer all of my concerns especially during the Christmas event on how can I claim my daily rewards of free spin which I forgot what game it was credited.
People rely on customer support because they are too lazy to read ToS that has 10 pages, people want quick answers on their questions. At some point one might think that it's customer's problem but it's not, really. It affects a business, so it becomes a business's problem.
hero member
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Not talking about Duelbits but more in general; but sometimes support can be a hit or a miss. I have numerous instances that the first agent couldn't help me out and that, when reopening the ticket, another agent could help me out. Having good costumer support is so important as it can make or break a casino.

This is correct, why do we need to rely on customer support if all the details we are trying to find out is already available publicly on the ToS. There’s a lot of incompetent support which might give you a headache once they provide wrong information or not even helpful.

Gladly on Duelbits, Support is always quick to response while they are always friendly to answer all of my concerns especially during the Christmas event on how can I claim my daily rewards of free spin which I forgot what game it was credited.
sr. member
Activity: 2170
Merit: 254
It’s better to check it for yourself in ToS of the casino in addition to asking the support to guarantee that you are following the casino rules without relying on support alone since they often commit mistakes sometimes while casino sometimes have problem validating whether their support really said that or not because they can accuse you of using photoshop if your evidence is just picture while casino denies your claim.

Better to do it yourself since it’s your money, using the find in page function on browser to easily locate the VPN part is very easy to do.
I disagree. If they accuse gamblers of faking evidence when it's actually legit, they would be risking their own reputation which is something that most casinos would think twice before doing.

Also, the fault is still on their side if their customer support messed up which is why only irresponsible and unethical casinos would accuse gamblers in such situations.

Not talking about Duelbits but more in general; but sometimes support can be a hit or a miss. I have numerous instances that the first agent couldn't help me out and that, when reopening the ticket, another agent could help me out. Having good costumer support is so important as it can make or break a casino.
legendary
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Merit: 2198
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It's worth trying indeed. I've already played it once and here's my best achievements:




Apparently it wasn't enough for winning Jackpot Smiley



But I will definitely try again next week. What are your achievements, guys? I mean, I'm curious, this position, 644, is a good or a not so good achievement? What are my chances of hitting the Jackpot in your opinion?
hero member
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It’s better to check it for yourself in ToS of the casino in addition to asking the support to guarantee that you are following the casino rules without relying on support alone since they often commit mistakes sometimes while casino sometimes have problem validating whether their support really said that or not because they can accuse you of using photoshop if your evidence is just picture while casino denies your claim.

Better to do it yourself since it’s your money, using the find in page function on browser to easily locate the VPN part is very easy to do.
I disagree. If they accuse gamblers of faking evidence when it's actually legit, they would be risking their own reputation which is something that most casinos would think twice before doing.

Also, the fault is still on their side if their customer support messed up which is why only irresponsible and unethical casinos would accuse gamblers in such situations.
I agree with you that, if blaming users when their services are problematic it is a very bad act and will affect the reputation of the casino itself, because if the case accuses the customer of course it cannot be tolerated in my opinion because this will threaten other users to have the same case, so it is very important to see that it is the support service that needs to be improved not throwing away one customer because of poor customer support services, if it were me who owned a casino of course I would be better off throwing away my problematic employees rather than doing things that make my customers lose and that could affect many other customers in accessing my casino. This means that it needs to be fixed if customer support is doing something like that.
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It’s better to check it for yourself in ToS of the casino in addition to asking the support to guarantee that you are following the casino rules without relying on support alone since they often commit mistakes sometimes while casino sometimes have problem validating whether their support really said that or not because they can accuse you of using photoshop if your evidence is just picture while casino denies your claim.

Better to do it yourself since it’s your money, using the find in page function on browser to easily locate the VPN part is very easy to do.
I disagree. If they accuse gamblers of faking evidence when it's actually legit, they would be risking their own reputation which is something that most casinos would think twice before doing.

Also, the fault is still on their side if their customer support messed up which is why only irresponsible and unethical casinos would accuse gamblers in such situations.
hero member
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This is the reason why casinos withhold winnings under the pretext of using a VPN that is not recommended, often see this case but what is normal is that when casinos find mistakes even if it is not deceptive casinos can withhold funds with investigations carried out.

Exactly! Ask support whether the use of VPN is allowed or not if YES then keep the evidence, sometimes problems in the middle of the road always exist and when asking again it is a different opinion from support maybe with that evidence we can be strong with the defense.

It’s better to check it for yourself in ToS of the casino in addition to asking the support to guarantee that you are following the casino rules without relying on support alone since they often commit mistakes sometimes while casino sometimes have problem validating whether their support really said that or not because they can accuse you of using photoshop if your evidence is just picture while casino denies your claim.

Better to do it yourself since it’s your money, using the find in page function on browser to easily locate the VPN part is very easy to do.
hero member
Activity: 1498
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The reason for using VPN even after completing KYC to the casino is to protect their internet and financial activities from the middle party especially from ISP to certain level so it's okay to use with dedicated address for not revealing their actual location.
It's still risky though since some crypto gambling sites withhold player winnings stating that they used a VPN even though they didn't technically cheat them based on my observations.

This is why it's always advisable to confirm with their customer support and store evidence of those conversations before using any type of VPN.
This is the reason why casinos withhold winnings under the pretext of using a VPN that is not recommended, often see this case but what is normal is that when casinos find mistakes even if it is not deceptive casinos can withhold funds with investigations carried out.

Exactly! Ask support whether the use of VPN is allowed or not if YES then keep the evidence, sometimes problems in the middle of the road always exist and when asking again it is a different opinion from support maybe with that evidence we can be strong with the defense.
hero member
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I think their RTP for Plinko (and their other houes games) is 99% as house edge is 1%. But as you mention it all depends on luck, you could hit the x10,000 multiplier after a couple of hits or never hit it even when you have played like 50,000 rounds. Plinko is pretty fun to play, always exciting to see where the balls will fall.

Well, their plinko is indeed very good to play if the house edge is only 1% since this game usually play on high number of bets due to it fast phase game while small house edge can minimize players lose in the long run while trying their luck to hit the max multiplier in short term as possible.

I’m not a plinko player because it’s more interesting for me to play on a more interactive game such as live games and slot games compared to watching balls bounce to multiplier that has a high chance to just go in the middle which is lowest multiplier.
legendary
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The reason for using VPN even after completing KYC to the casino is to protect their internet and financial activities from the middle party especially from ISP to certain level so it's okay to use with dedicated address for not revealing their actual location.
It's still risky though since some crypto gambling sites withhold player winnings stating that they used a VPN even though they didn't technically cheat them based on my observations.

This is why it's always advisable to confirm with their customer support and store evidence of those conversations before using any type of VPN.
Yes, that's right, at least consult with customer support so that errors don't occur in the future and also make sure to capture the screen so that it can be proof that permission was given by customer support, that's why I often when chatting with customer support always capture the screen first so that That could be evidence if one day they try to get out of what I complained and was concerned about, sometimes customer support also often makes mistakes in serving customers so they act outside the existing requirements.

There are many cases where the casino is not responsible for anything that violates the casino, but if you have chat screenshot evidence, it will certainly be stronger that the casino has no intention of cheating, let alone taking our money for reasons of TOS, let alone violating terms, but it's best not to use VPN. To gamble, make sure you use your own internet provider whose IP ensures that it doesn't block the casino site and you can gamble safely. Moreover, playing anonymously is usually very difficult because nowadays all centralized casinos have strict rules about whether users are anonymous or not.
sr. member
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But, what if 100 people bet 1000 teams each? That would mean 100000 times played, suddenly hitting a 10000x return becomes very normal, even inevitable right? That's why it is so important and it is very crucial without a doubt. I personally believe that the best thing to do would be focusing on how we could realize that's not going to happen to us, or even if there is a chance, it would be very tiny chance for sure.

Having a 10,000 bets frequently doesn’t give you an assurance that you will hit the x10,000 multiplier because there’s a house edge on every game including Plinko. This is why the RTP is important when we are talking about huge sum of bets because that’s the time which the RTP already matters.

I’m not sure what’s the RTP of Duelbits Plinko but what I’m certain is you will need to bet more than 10K in able to win x10,000 multiplier frequently. So having a 100K bets doesn’t guarantee that you will hit 10 times the max win. You can hit more but hitting less is higher chance to occur due to house edge.

I think their RTP for Plinko (and their other houes games) is 99% as house edge is 1%. But as you mention it all depends on luck, you could hit the x10,000 multiplier after a couple of hits or never hit it even when you have played like 50,000 rounds. Plinko is pretty fun to play, always exciting to see where the balls will fall.
hero member
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But, what if 100 people bet 1000 teams each? That would mean 100000 times played, suddenly hitting a 10000x return becomes very normal, even inevitable right? That's why it is so important and it is very crucial without a doubt. I personally believe that the best thing to do would be focusing on how we could realize that's not going to happen to us, or even if there is a chance, it would be very tiny chance for sure.

Having a 10,000 bets frequently doesn’t give you an assurance that you will hit the x10,000 multiplier because there’s a house edge on every game including Plinko. This is why the RTP is important when we are talking about huge sum of bets because that’s the time which the RTP already matters.

I’m not sure what’s the RTP of Duelbits Plinko but what I’m certain is you will need to bet more than 10K in able to win x10,000 multiplier frequently. So having a 100K bets doesn’t guarantee that you will hit 10 times the max win. You can hit more but hitting less is higher chance to occur due to house edge.
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The reason for using VPN even after completing KYC to the casino is to protect their internet and financial activities from the middle party especially from ISP to certain level so it's okay to use with dedicated address for not revealing their actual location.
It's still risky though since some crypto gambling sites withhold player winnings stating that they used a VPN even though they didn't technically cheat them based on my observations.

This is why it's always advisable to confirm with their customer support and store evidence of those conversations before using any type of VPN.
sr. member
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To be fair, plinko is something that many streamers play, and when you think about the sheer amount of times they play and the amount of streamers that play it, it is only natural that eventually you will get some very big wins. When you see a x10000 return win, what do you think? It's unlikely to be ever hit right?

But, what if 100 people bet 1000 teams each? That would mean 100000 times played, suddenly hitting a 10000x return becomes very normal, even inevitable right? That's why it is so important and it is very crucial without a doubt. I personally believe that the best thing to do would be focusing on how we could realize that's not going to happen to us, or even if there is a chance, it would be very tiny chance for sure.
hero member
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I share this as information to active duelbits users here.

Come on... Free to play game. Jackpot 3 BTC
Not available to UK and US residents.

🔥Come play on Duelbits for FREE and you could Win 3 BTC while watching this weekend's huge MMA card!

🔮Correctly predict the outcome of the fights to grab our Jackpot! And take a spot on our $10,000 Leaderboard by playing!

100% FREE, make your picks!👇
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legendary
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Bank can do that
Exchange can do that

Any service are included financial topic, always have some term & condition like that. Like or not you're register into their service, If you don't like any of those term & service you can always have some choice to not register into the site.

You are not getting force right, no one putting a knife in your neck.
hero member
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They also indicated in their ToS that they have the right to confiscate funds from user who violated the casino terms which is very specific that the money will go to their casino bankroll. It’s very hassle to cooperate on government just to transfer the funds of it’s citizen unless the government itself is the one who requested to freeze specific user asset.
When ToS has become a rule, the casino has the right to confiscate customer funds. The casino must also have evidence of why it has to freeze customer funds, but maybe the casino will distinguish between frozen fund bankrolls and casino financial bankrolls.

The government will not get involved if the funds are small, unless there is a large flow of funds of millions of dollars then the government will act properly such as the mixer case where it is large in its transactions, if the case is small then the casino itself handles it.
legendary
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I can't guarantee what casinos do with user's frozen funds but to my mind, they keep it in their pocket. I don't believe that they contact any authorities, they keep it in their pocket.

It’s true, they are not obligated to find the respective government agency for the user specific country to give the amount involved since the violation happened to their casino that operates with license.

They also indicated in their ToS that they have the right to confiscate funds from user who violated the casino terms which is very specific that the money will go to their casino bankroll. It’s very hassle to cooperate on government just to transfer the funds of it’s citizen unless the government itself is the one who requested to freeze specific user asset.

That would be the easiest thing to do, keep the funds and consider it as another profit. I hope casinos are not gonna allow gamblers from a country which is gambling is illegal and later on tagged them for violating the TOS when they start winning. Some casino do that kind of dirty job, they allow some to gamble even knowingly they should not be allowed but the moment they start winning, boom! "your account has been frozen"...

Anyway, I think I'd stop here as I already got some replies, Thanks guys!
hero member
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Snip.
I can't guarantee what casinos do with user's frozen funds but to my mind, they keep it in their pocket. I don't believe that they contact any authorities, they keep it in their pocket.

It’s true, they are not obligated to find the respective government agency for the user specific country to give the amount involved since the violation happened to their casino that operates with license.

They also indicated in their ToS that they have the right to confiscate funds from user who violated the casino terms which is very specific that the money will go to their casino bankroll. It’s very hassle to cooperate on government just to transfer the funds of it’s citizen unless the government itself is the one who requested to freeze specific user asset.
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