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HAPPY 10TH PUBLIC BIRTHDAY DEVCOIN - SINCE JULY 20/22, 2011. GENESIS AND BLOCK #1!



Perhaps the turtle wins the race this year. There has to be value for secure chains. And efficient ones at that in this new "green" world.

Under the radar 10 years, but still actively developed in the past year and still has the founder around.

Go Devcoin, go.



Regardless of Spot prices on one exchange, we still get written about in 2021:

https://copper.co/insights/what-do-the-top-10-cryptos-of-the-last-10-years-tell-us

7 years ago, we were known to Yahoo Finance...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/longest-running-bitcoin-alternative-devcoin-050500319.html



Time to kick it in gear... unless waiting is the winning strategy. No one has ever told me, but here I am.

The thing is, behind the scenes many brilliant developers are already rolling out Devcoin's proposals into the pubic little by little and one day it will be here. So do I love my cheap DVC? Do I love marketing and working for the dev team? You bet.

Governance and the value of long and well thought out distribution is coming.

How nice (sarcasm)of Vitalik to plug our innovation and move on to Ethereum even using their own proposed governance system which ripped off that which Devcoin created...

What do we care. Our chain is under the radar, the most of the most secure - and no doubt, our devs from the co-founder with us today to our South American whiz kid and others who work on other projects yet help us immensely like Traxo and Vlad from iXcoin.

We are so very close. The distribution is almost optimal. Time for the next step...

A little Vitalik at Devcon when he must've read some good MarkM or Unthinkingbit posts on Bitcointalk.org the night before...

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SocialCoin and the One World “Government”


The existence of a decentralized “real name” system allows for a large number of possibilities that have so far been unexplored in the cryptocurrency world. One attractive possibility is SocialCoin, the cryptocurrency that pays everyone in the world a “world citizen’s dividend” of 1000 units per month; another, similar alternative is to plug the system into a Devcoin-like system, allowing people to come together and vote on projects that the money should be spent on, thereby creating what is essentially a (voluntary) “world government” that funds itself from the revenue from generating new currency units. How much money could such a government get while still maintaining a low inflation rate? Here, there are two factors to keep in mind: people dying and losing their coins forever, and actual inflation.

Currently, when someone dies, their property automatically goes to their children or spouse by default. In a cryptocurrency, however, by default a person’s monetary savings simply become inaccessible since their passwords are lost. This destruction of coins creates a deflationary pressure; given the current death rate of around 8 per 1000 per year, multiplying by a factor of 2 to account for the fact that people tend to be somewhat wealthier than average at the time of their death, and then again dividing by 3 to take into account the fact that many people will have a system set up to ensure their wealth will go somewhere when they die (currently, about half the population has wills, and the divider can be bumped to 3 since people with more money are more likely to have them), we can get an estimate of 0.5% coin loss per year.

This, combined with a low target inflation rate of 1.5%, means that we can “print” 2% of the current money supply every year. Since cryptocurrencies will massively reduce the amount of fractional reserve banking in the world (as the cryptocurrency base unit is online, so individuals no longer “need” to store their money in banks in order to maintain savings accounts and make long-distance transactions), we can expect much of the world’s M2 and M3 money supply (ways of calculating money supply that include bank deposits) to become part of the base money supply of a cryptocurrency. The M2 money supply of the world is estimated at around $40 trillion, giving our world government a budget of $800 billion per year to play with – or, in the case of SocialCoin, a universal dividend of $114 per person per year.

In theory, a world government can do a lot with $800 billion per year; in practice, it remains to be seen how free from corruption such an institution would be, although in this case the fact that it will be controlled by direct democracy, and have no power to tax, can potentially serve as powerful restraints on abuse. It would essentially be a government in the sense of being an entity tasked with maintaining social infrastructure, but would lack the power to coerce and compel that might make it particularly dangerous. Or, we can simply stick with SocialCoin, and leave it up to each individual to improve their lives the best that they can with $114 per year – almost nothing to most people reading this article, but a very substantial amount in many underdeveloped countries. If the system can be made to rely on no centralized institutions and no tax revenue, it can secure a level of political neutrality that would allow it to be trusted by the entire world. Will it happen? Well, either wait and see to find out, or start implementing it yourself.

See also:

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7050/bootstrapping-a-decentralized-autonomous-corporation-part-i/

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7119/bootstrapping-an-autonomous-decentralized-corporation-part-2-interacting-with-the-world/

Source: https://blog.ethereum.org/2013/12/31/bootstrapping-a-decentralized-autonomous-corporation-part-3-identity-corp/
legendary
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Is anyone working on wrapped Devcoin/bridging Devcoin onto other blockchains? For instance, an ERC-20 wrapped Devcoin token backed 1:1 with main chain Devcoin? This token could allow Devcoin holders to access a whole suite of new applications — decentralized exchanges, borrowing, etc.

That would be cool. As of now I believe the only place besides Stellar where a DVC asset exists is HORIZON in MarkM's "HZDVC" you can find that info here: https://makemoney.knotwork.com/horizon/assets/hzdvc/

Going waaaaay back with Marky Mark I can verify this is factual information. 

Dude message:  one day soon I’m gonna clean out the books on these old coins.  Just hope you have a side stash for yourself.  Thanks for the tedious manual market making all these years. 

Vlad
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Is anyone working on wrapped Devcoin/bridging Devcoin onto other blockchains? For instance, an ERC-20 wrapped Devcoin token backed 1:1 with main chain Devcoin? This token could allow Devcoin holders to access a whole suite of new applications — decentralized exchanges, borrowing, etc.

That would be cool. As of now I believe the only place besides Stellar where a DVC asset exists is HORIZON in MarkM's "HZDVC" you can find that info here: https://makemoney.knotwork.com/horizon/assets/hzdvc/
legendary
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We have DVC on the Stellar platform, and when the new version of DMD comes out will probably put them there too.

-MarkM-

Thanks! What about Ethereum?
legendary
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Is anyone working on wrapped Devcoin/bridging Devcoin onto other blockchains? For instance, an ERC-20 wrapped Devcoin token backed 1:1 with main chain Devcoin? This token could allow Devcoin holders to access a whole suite of new applications — decentralized exchanges, borrowing, etc.

We have DVC on the Stellar platform, and when the new version of DMD comes out will probably put them there too.

-MarkM-
legendary
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Is anyone working on wrapped Devcoin/bridging Devcoin onto other blockchains? For instance, an ERC-20 wrapped Devcoin token backed 1:1 with main chain Devcoin? This token could allow Devcoin holders to access a whole suite of new applications — decentralized exchanges, borrowing, etc.
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Ok, half off.  .03 sat for 5 million dvc?  Unreal.  Real Bitcoin my...

You're probably the dumbest person in crypto:

https://block.d.evco.in/chain/Devcoin?hi=0

Furthermore in 2013, you could've just bought BTC. And presto, you're rich instead of a miserable 50 year old ranting and raving online about neo-Nazism and trashing other people's valid points.

Btc?  The alts I had on cryptsy, hundreds worth of btc would have made me much more than holding BTC.

BTC is trash and soon everyone will see what I’ve been saying for 9 years.  Almost a decade?  I might be retarded knowing what I know and knew ahead of time and now being broke and trapped like a hungry rat looking for free cheese in a trap.  Lol
 

You got me clocked.  I’ll mop floors on a beautiful Swedish island for minimum wage if anyone is hiring.  :/




https://www.facebook.com/devcoin << Like our page to find out more  Wink

Awesome coin design.  I want a few real ones but high quality like the pic.  Who made it, Carlos from BTX.  Top notch. 


It's a "Dinar" symbol

Why not shekel?  :/


Back to this.  I gotta check the shekel design and one side shekel and the flipside Christian them.  Like, In God We Trust. 

God is banned in the EU so it wouldn’t work here. 






Oye, I can’t believe the beauty and symbolism of these shekels.  Best fiat coins I’ve ever seen.  Yeah, it’s fappening.  Add a PCP background for effect and the flip side put a knights Templar narrative and in God We True.

Can’t fail.  The force is with me, erm, us.  Excellent. 

I want pure 1 ounce gold from the mines of Ophir.  7 x 77 pieces. 











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Ok, half off.  .03 sat for 5 million dvc?  Unreal.  Real Bitcoin my...

You're probably the dumbest person in crypto:

https://block.d.evco.in/chain/Devcoin?hi=0

Furthermore in 2013, you could've just bought BTC. And presto, you're rich instead of a miserable 50 year old ranting and raving online about neo-Nazism and trashing other people's valid points.
legendary
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Selling 5 million dvc (its all I got) for .04.  Market price is .05.  That’s a decent discount.  Wish I could do better. 

Need it ASAP.  Thanks. 

Vlad

latestrates.traxo.me

Thanks, Dan.  Ok.  .05?  Anybody?  I need to sell ASAP. 






Selling 5 million dvc (its all I got) for .04.  Market price is .05.  That’s a decent discount.  Wish I could do better. 

Need it ASAP.  Thanks. 

Vlad

latestrates.traxo.me

Thanks, Dan.  Ok.  .05?  Anybody?  I need to sell ASAP. 



Clearly, nobody wants to buy the next real Bitcoin at 5 sats.  I’ll take .04.  Well sub market.  Not one believer in this coin?  Kinda odd.  Offer me my favorite coin for 30% off and I’ll clean you out. 


Edit:  I’m mental.  I need anti psychotic meds ASAP before I tear crypto a new A-hole.  Just saying, it’s urgent. 




https://www.facebook.com/devcoin << Like our page to find out more  Wink

Awesome coin design.  I want a few real ones but high quality like the pic.  Who made it, Carlos from BTX.  Top notch. 


It's a "Dinar" symbol

Why not shekel?  :/





Ok, half off.  .03 sat for 5 million dvc?  Unreal.  Real Bitcoin my...

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hero member
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Fuck BlackRock
https://www.facebook.com/devcoin << Like our page to find out more  Wink

Awesome coin design.  I want a few real ones but high quality like the pic.  Who made it, Carlos from BTX.  Top notch. 


It's a "Dinar" symbol




Selling 5 million dvc (its all I got) for .04.  Market price is .05.  That’s a decent discount.  Wish I could do better. 

Need it ASAP.  Thanks. 

Vlad

latestrates.traxo.me

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legendary
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Selling 5 million dvc (its all I got) for .04.  Market price is .05.  That’s a decent discount.  Wish I could do better. 

Need it ASAP.  Thanks. 

Vlad

The demand on this coin, tho.  Try .03.  It’s the next Bitcoin Dan will no doubt buy it. 




https://www.facebook.com/devcoin << Like our page to find out more  Wink

Awesome coin design.  I want a few real ones but high quality like the pic.  Who made it, Carlos from BTX.  Top notch. 


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Selling 5 million dvc (its all I got) for .04.  Market price is .05.  That’s a decent discount.  Wish I could do better. 

Need it ASAP.  Thanks. 

Vlad
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https://www.facebook.com/devcoin << Like our page to find out more  Wink
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I see this project is going nowhere

The most stable coin there is.  Lol
legendary
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I see this project is going nowhere

You should probably sell then.  Dog coin winding up for another run. 
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I see this project is going nowhere
legendary
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We get our hash free but btc is still eating the planet exponentially.  Ixcoin has the green solution using random cellphones.  One day may Elon will run across it.  I posted the white paper everywhere. 


Would it make sense to start thinking about proof of stake as an alternative to PoW?

POS is PoS.  Unsecured.  Plus DVC has such high hash and for free. 

You new here? 
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Would it make sense to start thinking about proof of stake as an alternative to PoW?

No.
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We get our hash free but btc is still eating the planet exponentially.  Ixcoin has the green solution using random cellphones.  One day may Elon will run across it.  I posted the white paper everywhere. 


Would it make sense to start thinking about proof of stake as an alternative to PoW?
legendary
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One day may Elon will run across it. 

Get him on the phone Vlad. It's pow wow time  Cool

I’m desperate, I’ll call Trump if I could.  But I don’t have Elon’s email or number and it seems Twitter banned my IP.  Reek probably didn’t like being called a communist.  Lol
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