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Oh, no Dan! You misunderstood me. I'm Cpol! Qtera is one of my many aliases! I haven't gone, just lurking around and waiting for my call! It's curious, because I've been worried the whole day thinking about devcoin and it was as if develCuy were calling me using telepathy!

my apologies! Smiley

I just edited my post bc I noticed something I missed that I'm on board to do for "cpol" haha. You can read the EDIT right at the top as it is important to read first imo.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58184244

We would be prepared to pay you the lumpsum of!

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Hey Qtera help as much as you feel. Fernando is always letting me help when I ask. Glad you're back!

Oh, no Dan! You misunderstood me. I'm Cpol! Qtera is one of my many aliases! I haven't gone, just lurking around and waiting for my call! It's curious, because I've been worried the whole day thinking about devcoin and it was as if develCuy were calling me using telepathy!
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Jeez develCuy, i don't know what to say. Thank you for your confidence! I think it is not a selfless act at all, I hope it would. My way of see things is: if this project moves forward good enough, I would get more than I need to with my actual saved coins. But you are right, we need to move fast and now, because we have missed a lot of time already. We need those satoshis moving.

P.S.: Could I replace one of those seniors devs in your daily work? I'm kidding!

Hey Qtera help as much as you feel. Fernando is always letting me help when I ask. Glad you're back!


WARNING: I am pretty sure the code only supports 1/5ths of a share, trying to make it do 1/10ths would probably require a rebuilding of the actual node core software as well as maybe some modifying of the scripts we use to build the distribution files.

So file custodians be aware the files I just prepared might not actually work, we might have to re-do the file-preparing using 1/5ths of a share as I am pretty darn sure that is the smallest granularity we coded in from the start.

-MarkM-


ELI5 what would this do to the output data? (ie what a noob like me would see in his Devcoin-Qt or logs, or chainz block explorer?)
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WARNING: I am pretty sure the code only supports 1/5ths of a share, trying to make it do 1/10ths would probably require a rebuilding of the actual node core software as well as maybe some modifying of the scripts we use to build the distribution files.

So file custodians be aware the files I just prepared might not actually work, we might have to re-do the file-preparing using 1/5ths of a share as I am pretty darn sure that is the smallest granularity we coded in from the start.

-MarkM-
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Dear Devcoin community,

I kindly ask everybody, specially in A-Team, to follow the example from Cpol, the guy doesn't earns a single ongoing share, yet he is accountable with his role within our DevTeam, he is always there whenever I need to test a new build, he does better reporting than many paid senior devs I know in my day job. Cpol does it all for a different model of incentive, get paid for actual achievements, when things are really done! No money upfront. Please don't take me wrong, I don't plan to change our current ongoing model, I only want to incentivize onboarding more people like Cpol and to awake the power from A-Team, together we could move Devcoin from under 1 sat to 10 sats in no time. Time will tell if I'm wrong and you'll then blame me for failure.

Jeez develCuy, i don't know what to say. Thank you for your confidence! I think it is not a selfless act at all, I hope it would. My way of see things is: if this project moves forward good enough, I would get more than I need to with my actual saved coins. But you are right, we need to move fast and now, because we have missed a lot of time already. We need those satoshis moving.

P.S.: Could I replace one of those seniors devs in your daily work? I'm kidding!
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I kindly ask everybody, specially in A-Team, to follow the example from Cpol, the guy doesn't earns a single ongoing share, yet he is accountable with his role within our DevTeam, he is always there whenever I need to test a new build, he does better reporting than many paid senior devs I know in my day job. Cpol does it all for a different model of incentive, get paid for actual achievements, when things are really done! No money upfront. Please don't take me wrong, I don't plan to change our current ongoing model, I only want to incentivize onboarding more people like Cpol and to awake the power from A-Team, together we could move Devcoin from under 1 sat to 10 sats in no time. Time will tell if I'm wrong and you'll then blame me for failure.

EDIT: Wow lots to digest and input on. I only have the one share but I have been around GitHub and I know cpol's talented in ways i will never be and useful to you all in ways I am not. If you don't have money to give, and he likes hodling devcoins that don't pay the bills but he's here for the eventual value by price discovery - then you may forfeit whatever share I have left after your 90% reduction and give the 1 share I receive from Devtome for Social Media and community interaction involving Devcoin to cpol. I have amassed millions of DVC and had bought millions and millions all the way back when they used to be on altilly before they sold to the Swedes that ruined that exchange! Let me know if that helps. Was enough for me and I haven't spent one sat.


Dear Devcoin community,

This is an announcement I had in the oven for so long. Part of the reason is that things slowed down so much due to the pandemic, yet not the complete answer. Free Software projects move along their community and leadership, the last one being my call. If you are familiar with driving cars, you know that the break is used more often than the accelerator pedal. Devcoin is ethical by purpose, one that I truly and deeply believe, but nothing is perfect so leadership should make some decisions to move the project forward.

The decision I'm taking this time is to reduce the number of ongoing shares from 223 to 200, it increases the amount of Devcoins minted for every ongoing share every round by about 10%. YET, we still have our markets in comma, so we are basically incentivizing hodling and inactivity for too much time. Rather I prefer to incentivize more active participation from A-Team (Devcoin staff), since we have several areas that need help, other than just hodling for passive income. Isn't that ethical?

For the reasons above, I reduced ongoing shares for staff by 90%, it means that incentive for all roles is now one tenth (1/10) of a share starting on round 122.

The immediate effect is that Devcoin inflation is lower and miners are receiving a higher income, they should since network hashrate reduced by 99% this year (remember that we don't have any blockchain without miners).

I believe that was a game played out by the exodus and/or shutting down of Chinese Bitcoin miners. Last time I checked that's the issue effecting Bitcoin in Asia but not having much effect on price besides positive ones. 80% of Bitcoin miners were once in China and now that there's shutdown localbitcoin shows a far smaller amount carry on, but with all different software - a majority core but still (how would we know if any of the rogues are mining Devcoin and others merge mined altcoins with their Bitcoin?). Another thing about our "blocks" would be they show raw data for exact transactions within BTC blocks as I've previously pointed out, and all Devcoin transactions are only shown in our one operating explorer in a separate "transactions" raw data section. I realize the CSS isn't the problem, but the way merge mining won't be the plan forever. It makes sense to eventually stop distribution millions of DVC to the same people yet not do something to try and tie or write the value of all that POW and all those held coins that were produced with copies of BTC Coinbase transactions for each Devcoin "Block" - as you see such data when you go under the hood of the Block tab in our current explorer and select raw block data. There's your BTC Newly Generated Coins along with some data at the bottom that has a few strings, a chainID for merge mining, etc etc. Without 80% of Bitcoin miners in mainland China, a slowing down in the production and shipment of BITMAIN hardware, and (read this news story) ports so full that the coastal California water is filled with cargo ships waiting weeks to be unloaded.

The invisible hand wants this and it has even stalled our blocks. Mark has said having a blockchain that doesn't move doesn't mean its dead. We can still use record of it or mine a block with some special type of jumping point written into it that could helps us bridge tokens or work on transition trials to NEVM and accessing our first route to the wealth of DeFi and EVM chains as well as contributing our 10+ year secure blockchain to another sister project, surely returning value to our coins whether we wrap some tokens and bridge to NEVM, or whether those tokens even bridge to all other EVMs and then back even onto Syscoin Platform which is a UTXO model blockchain but it has software that allows on-chain issuance and movement/transaction of Syscoin Platform Tokens (Assets) and even NFTs. The testnet I've participated in extensively and this stuff works wonderfully. If we put enough work into relaying a price for Devcoin's present, future, and most definitely past - we should see a fair network with very fast processing speeds (Syscoin claims 4 million TPS on NEVM) acknowledge and identify things currently unreadable, non-standard, etc that also correctly account for value from Devcoin's past. Which there is, otherwise none of you would still be here. Logic wins that arguement everytime. We all know this coin needs some bridging, some oracles, some relays, some value lost to be rediscovered or regained, and most of all, run without manual .csv file configurations showing in my wallet as part of the devtome share I earn as "Mined" txn. It's a cyclical man written disbursement of coins for work. A payment maybe. But I know I'm not mining. That kind of thing if its in code could be screwing up the values of every L1 original UTXO chain. We know Devcoin is fixable, and needed. But yes whatever you want us to do - we're doing it. I haven't seen many people discussing things in the Discord or Keybase at the same time - but maybe the blocks are halting and the block subsidy should go down as well as change its distribution because Devcoin needs to evolve. Who knows how or what besides the leadership here.

We can do this - that I know.


I kindly ask everybody, specially in A-Team, to follow the example from Cpol, the guy doesn't earns a single ongoing share, yet he is accountable with his role within our DevTeam, he is always there whenever I need to test a new build, he does better reporting than many paid senior devs I know in my day job. Cpol does it all for a different model of incentive, get paid for actual achievements, when things are really done! No money upfront. Please don't take me wrong, I don't plan to change our current ongoing model, I only want to incentivize onboarding more people like Cpol and to awake the power from A-Team, together we could move Devcoin from under 1 sat to 10 sats in no time. Time will tell if I'm wrong and you'll then blame me for failure.

Final words here: No matter how low our chances are, success is always part of the possibilities!

Go go Devcoin!

- develCuy

P.S: "Si los perros ladran, es señal que avanzamos"

We know the math is fucked all over and noted in many different ways. Some people may see all those 0's and say hey, that's very cheap in unit of BTC. Another may know the value of those zeros as a set of integers expressed in hex, or even binary (0,00000001) or 0x00000001 or flipped endianness because they're beyond inclined in computer language and math (0.00000001 actually being 10000000.0 vv).

1 to 10 sats? some day the truth will shine, so why limit it. 10 sats - that's just not what this coin has put in - the cost of time has to be accounted for in the value but its not yet. The cost of carrying this chain whether mining or node operating has to be counted to every last millisecond and electrical efficiency doing it. We don't have all the values flowing through concretely. I wonder sometimes is that why the true reason this project has leaders is because they are the only ones who truly know. GitLab just went Public Traded in the US this Thursday 10/14. That should excite all who are aware GitLab has owned the Devcoin source code and thus "git" since 2015 when it bought Gitorious. It made those commits and code read-only shortly before stowing it away into its private company - GitLab. I've seen enough of that code to know it is as important to finishing Devcoin's past as sidhujag, belovachap, and others branches authored in our current GitHub repository "core" is to tying the present, past, and future into a fully functioning and time accurate software with an even more robust and strengthened network.

Only you guys know how we get there but Markm thinks were the UTXO merge mined ready candidate to do Counterparty txns on Devcoin on the cheap and every now and then write them into the BTC main chain (like rollups and EVM Eth L2 solutions), but as one big transaction of transactions settled in DVC on Devcoin's blocks. If mark does that expect Devcoin to bounce to 5-$10 which is still many more satoshi's but still nearly not truly expressing Devcoin's value. At it's age and having tested so much software with these different blockchains, or same chains but diff params, I know a good bet when I see it. Here's the clay cup time to grab it Indiana Cuy.



Besides my busy work I've been engaging and testing what you said we might do down the road with Syscoin and their community too. As i mention here, I think them being aware of us is good. They may need us. And also I am seeing things that would be amazing for Devcoin once tested for bugs and built for production by Syscoiners first.

I know I'm not able to code and compile things on Linux like cpol but I'm around, active, and always talking Devcoin with people open to hearing it (like SysCoin Devs, Execs, and Blockchain Foundry consultsants)... I even find guys you wanna track down to let them know you're interested in talking. But this project only will move as fast as its destiny. And I think you're doing great. One day we won't need to manually invoke periods of slowing down activity on purpose nor encouraging more activity. This has been a long experience for me. And i've been around only into my now 4th year. But I'm trying. Can't wait for my 4,500 DVC. I have more than enough imo - because I value it highly even if the software doesn't display the correct values worldwide. I know it will soon.

It'd be awesome also to know if you all use the original gitorious source code or your own fork on GitHub etc. I'd like a link if you can to the LOC where these "Shares" we're going to divy up to 1/10 per 1 share is because then I prob wouldn't be confused as I am. I know I get my staff share paid out of Devtome shares, which I was getting 1 of the 50 shares allocated to pay for Devtome contributions (but for Social Media and Community outreach). Does this proposal mean my pay reduces to 0.1/50 shares coming from Devtome? I'm totally fine with that. I hodl'd and I will be for a long time. But I feel fortunate to be creeping my way up to the top 60 soon. They may be worth nothing but status wise they reflect the project I work hard at most to help however possible because I believe in it the most.
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UPDATE 2021-10-18: Payroll reduction on round 122 is 40% due to limitations on Devcoin source code. We are trying to achieve the 90% reduction on round 123.

Dear Devcoin community,

This is an announcement I had in the oven for so long. Part of the reason is that things slowed down so much due to the pandemic, yet not the complete answer. Free Software projects move along their community and leadership, the last one being my call. If you are familiar with driving cars, you know that the break is used more often than the accelerator pedal. Devcoin is ethical by purpose, one that I truly and deeply believe, but nothing is perfect so leadership should make some decisions to move the project forward.

The decision I'm taking this time is to reduce the number of ongoing shares from 223 to 200, it increases the amount of Devcoins minted for every ongoing share every round by about 10%. YET, we still have our markets in comma, so we are basically incentivizing hodling and inactivity for too much time. Rather I prefer to incentivize more active participation from A-Team (Devcoin staff), since we have several areas that need help, other than just hodling for passive income. Isn't that ethical?

For the reasons above, I reduced ongoing shares for staff by 90%, it means that incentive for all roles is now one tenth (1/10) of a share starting on round 122. The immediate effect is that Devcoin inflation is lower and miners are receiving a higher income, they should since network hashrate reduced by 99% this year (remember that we don't have any blockchain without miners).

I kindly ask everybody, specially in A-Team, to follow the example from Cpol (Qtera), the guy doesn't earns a single ongoing share, yet he is accountable with his role within our DevTeam, he is always there whenever I need to test a new build, he does better reporting than many paid senior devs I know in my day job. Cpol does it all for a different model of incentive, get paid for actual achievements, when things are really done! No money upfront. Please don't take me wrong, I don't plan to change our current ongoing model, I only want to incentivize onboarding more people like Cpol and to awake the power from A-Team, together we could move Devcoin from under 1 sat to 10 sats in no time. Time will tell if I'm wrong and you'll then blame me for failure.

Final words here: No matter how low our chances are, success is always part of the possibilities!

Go go Devcoin!

- develCuy

P.S: "Si los perros ladran, es señal que avanzamos"
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Oh so clever but 0 merits.  Ain’t right. 
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Ditto.  Our time will come.  Wink


they NEED us like we need Vlad =P

More than you realize!

You ready for black winter.  Starting soon and the mass death won’t stop until spring/April.  Stay away from crowds and the infected vaxxed. 


Apocalipsa - because you earned it - so reap it. 
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Ditto.  Our time will come.  Wink


they NEED us like we need Vlad =P
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Have talked to FreiExchange on telegram. They have indicated DVC has "historical significance" and will remain trading for now... assuming that means its safe from first delisting but I'll update here if there is clarification.



A good community member here folks Cool

You want his number?  Lol. Ye, he’s one of ours.  

That means ixc and i0C are safe.  I beg keep Btx, it’s gonna rain one way or another with that coin.  


LOL. Gonna have to change this since giving it to vlad Smiley

So if IXC DVC gets delisted from freiexchange due to low trading activity where can it be traded comrades?  Cool

Have talked to FreiExchange on telegram. They have indicated DVC has "historical significance" and will remain trading for now... assuming that means its safe from first delisting but I'll update here if there is clarification.

Also, for those unaware you can hit up markm here from this thread to get 1:1 OTC token exchange for DVC on Stellar (https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5-1). And then you can trade the DVC token on Stellar for whatever its listed against or make a new market hoping someone else trades with you... this can be a little quicker than FreiExchange if you're looking to get some liquidity for your DVC but I don't know at the moment what Mark's longterm plans are for that token.

FWIW - he has reliably "cashed in" my DVC coins for DVC tokens and "cashed out" my DVC tokens (from Stellar DVC) to DVC coins (sent to my Devcoin wallet) in the past year. That's only my personal experience and not a recommendation to do it.

“Will remain listed or trading?”  DVC easily has the longest record of not 1 coin traded.  Lol

Thanks tho for using those deep pockets and connects.  Wink



Only thing pockets deep in are crypto that don't trade! Easily...

Ditto.  Our time will come.  Wink
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Have talked to FreiExchange on telegram. They have indicated DVC has "historical significance" and will remain trading for now... assuming that means its safe from first delisting but I'll update here if there is clarification.



A good community member here folks Cool

You want his number?  Lol. Ye, he’s one of ours.  

That means ixc and i0C are safe.  I beg keep Btx, it’s gonna rain one way or another with that coin.  


LOL. Gonna have to change this since giving it to vlad Smiley

So if IXC DVC gets delisted from freiexchange due to low trading activity where can it be traded comrades?  Cool

Have talked to FreiExchange on telegram. They have indicated DVC has "historical significance" and will remain trading for now... assuming that means its safe from first delisting but I'll update here if there is clarification.

Also, for those unaware you can hit up markm here from this thread to get 1:1 OTC token exchange for DVC on Stellar (https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5-1). And then you can trade the DVC token on Stellar for whatever its listed against or make a new market hoping someone else trades with you... this can be a little quicker than FreiExchange if you're looking to get some liquidity for your DVC but I don't know at the moment what Mark's longterm plans are for that token.

FWIW - he has reliably "cashed in" my DVC coins for DVC tokens and "cashed out" my DVC tokens (from Stellar DVC) to DVC coins (sent to my Devcoin wallet) in the past year. That's only my personal experience and not a recommendation to do it.

“Will remain listed or trading?”  DVC easily has the longest record of not 1 coin traded.  Lol

Thanks tho for using those deep pockets and connects.  Wink



Only thing pockets deep in are crypto that don't trade! Easily...
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So if IXC DVC gets delisted from freiexchange due to low trading activity where can it be traded comrades?  Cool

Have talked to FreiExchange on telegram. They have indicated DVC has "historical significance" and will remain trading for now... assuming that means its safe from first delisting but I'll update here if there is clarification.

Also, for those unaware you can hit up markm here from this thread to get 1:1 OTC token exchange for DVC on Stellar (https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5-1). And then you can trade the DVC token on Stellar for whatever its listed against or make a new market hoping someone else trades with you... this can be a little quicker than FreiExchange if you're looking to get some liquidity for your DVC but I don't know at the moment what Mark's longterm plans are for that token.

FWIW - he has reliably "cashed in" my DVC coins for DVC tokens and "cashed out" my DVC tokens (from Stellar DVC) to DVC coins (sent to my Devcoin wallet) in the past year. That's only my personal experience and not a recommendation to do it.

“Will remain listed or trading?”  DVC easily has the longest record of not 1 coin traded.  Lol

Thanks tho for using those deep pockets and connects.  Wink

sr. member
Activity: 261
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Have talked to FreiExchange on telegram. They have indicated DVC has "historical significance" and will remain trading for now... assuming that means its safe from first delisting but I'll update here if there is clarification.



A good community member here folks Cool

You want his number?  Lol. Ye, he’s one of ours. 

That means ixc and i0C are safe.  I beg keep Btx, it’s gonna rain one way or another with that coin. 
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Have talked to FreiExchange on telegram. They have indicated DVC has "historical significance" and will remain trading for now... assuming that means its safe from first delisting but I'll update here if there is clarification.



A good community member here folks Cool
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So if IXC DVC gets delisted from freiexchange due to low trading activity where can it be traded comrades?  Cool

Have talked to FreiExchange on telegram. They have indicated DVC has "historical significance" and will remain trading for now... assuming that means its safe from first delisting but I'll update here if there is clarification.

Also, for those unaware you can hit up markm here from this thread to get 1:1 OTC token exchange for DVC on Stellar (https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5-1). And then you can trade the DVC token on Stellar for whatever its listed against or make a new market hoping someone else trades with you... this can be a little quicker than FreiExchange if you're looking to get some liquidity for your DVC but I don't know at the moment what Mark's longterm plans are for that token.

FWIW - he has reliably "cashed in" my DVC coins for DVC tokens and "cashed out" my DVC tokens (from Stellar DVC) to DVC coins (sent to my Devcoin wallet) in the past year. That's only my personal experience and not a recommendation to do it.
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So if IXC DVC gets delisted from freiexchange due to low trading activity where can it be traded comrades?  Cool

Moot point, nobody knows when it traded last.  Lol
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So if IXC DVC gets delisted from freiexchange due to low trading activity where can it be traded comrades?  Cool
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September 30, 2021, 08:18:20 AM
I'm having wallet issues now too. I got beyond the point you did, FuzzyBear, but got stuck further down--block 36999 or something. So I tried to manually download receiver 91 (replaced what was in my folder with one I downloaded from the direct download site (only changed to be receiver 91). The next time I ran my wallet, I got the "failed to connect to best block" error message. So I thought, great, I've corrupted the block chain. I deleted all but wallet.dat and tried again. It won't get past block zero now. I tried to shut down wallet and restart. That gave me the failed to connect error message again. Deleted everything, trying again, stuck on block zero (for now). I'm going to walk away and come back (and if it starts syncing I'll post an update). If it stays stuck on block zero, what are the steps I can take to get my wallet working again?

Edit: It's also stuck on only one active connection to network.

Edit: I restored the original peers file to see if that would help. My wallet now has 2 active connections and is still stuck on block zero. I'm running out of ideas. Please help.

Edit: 4 active connections now. still stuck on block 0. Maybe it's just slow?

Not to beat a dead horse or dig up the past issues but since I got here from issue #87 on the devcoin / core repository on Gh this is exactly what happens to me when I try to sync the new Bitcoin 22.0 wallet Tongue

We have our best dev on it since the rest clearly don’t cut it.  I’ll have it fixed as soon as I’m done coding something for a bigger project.  Thanks for letting us know. 
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