Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 19. (Read 1059157 times)
Hi, again .
So I've now upgraded one of the laptops to win 10.
Some of my wallets are syncing some are not .
Unfortunately Devcoin wallet is still not.
Gets stuck at " Failed to connect best block .
will not load.
Anything else to try?
You can contact markm and he will take your DVC tokens at his stellar address and send you blockchain devcoins into your DVC wallet. 1:1 ration of Stellar DVC tokens/DVC. I coordinated with him on the keybase.io chat by direct messaging him at "knotwork" because keybase has a built in wallet for Stellar and its tokens.
Dan, is it too difficult to implement that automatically in the system? Not a criticism, just genuinely asking.
Also Stellar is an open network, good place for DVC to move in and out of as it builds up value per each unit. Not about dollars anymore.
That's very good!! I like that!
Last few times I looked for free open-source code for giving people tokens in return for coins there were two problems:
One, they claimed the code was not for production-use, that is, not actually hardened for real use;
Two, the code minted tokens on the fly to represent the supposedly-received coins, instead of only letting folks "buy" existing tokens already previously minted; that violates my only issue tokens for half my coins policy and also implies issuing tokens representing coins that are probably still in a "hot" wallet not yet actually frozen or buried safely away somewhere.
-MarkM-
I understand MarkM thanks for answering back. I wish something like that could be production-use ready and customizable enough to meet your best practices. I think that would be awesome.
I am not sure which if any coins used in the Galactic Milieu are up to date enough with bitcoin code to work properly with the various methods folks have come up with for doing cross-chain atomic exchange.
Afaik, CIYAM AT dates back as far as 2014:
http://ciyam.org/at/
Recently, Qortal developers had it integrated in their Trade Portal:
[Trade Portal Info]
http://wiki.qortal.org/doku.php?id=trade_portal_info
It's up and running for quite a while already, you can see historical trades done using the Trade Portal:
https://exqlorer.com/market
Currently only BTC <-> QORT atomic cross-chain transacting is supported, but BTC <-> LTC has been announced.
No central authority, and it's very simple to use for average Joe.
(Somebody went through the process and recorded it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKpien_kOPM)
I suspect GM Bitcoin forks might be up to date with the bitcoin code so somebody can come up with way for them to be supported.
I am not sure which if any coins used in the Galactic Milieu are up to date enough with bitcoin code to work properly with the various methods folks have come up with for doing cross-chain atomic exchange. For example I think a lot of them still have "malleable transactions" even as they are so old.
Open Transactions planned to federate the reserve-custodian function but I had to move on from that platform as they refused to finalize data formats or warrant that there would be conversion tools to migrate data from old to new formats if/when formats changed.
So currently acting as custodian of the coins represented by tokens still seems somewhat necessary for various of the coins.
But hey if you can somehow figure out which if any of our blockchains will work with whatever cross-chain stuff your system does to secure coins on the real blockchain that are in use as tokens on your system I'd love to hear which ones should work and see it implemented.
Next platform Galactic Milieu is likely to issue onto is Diamond (DMD) when its "version 4" comes out. Meanwhile accumulation of DMD in readiness for that era is ongoing.
-MarkM-
Open Transactions planned to federate the reserve-custodian function but I had to move on from that platform as they refused to finalize data formats or warrant that there would be conversion tools to migrate data from old to new formats if/when formats changed.
So currently acting as custodian of the coins represented by tokens still seems somewhat necessary for various of the coins.
But hey if you can somehow figure out which if any of our blockchains will work with whatever cross-chain stuff your system does to secure coins on the real blockchain that are in use as tokens on your system I'd love to hear which ones should work and see it implemented.
Next platform Galactic Milieu is likely to issue onto is Diamond (DMD) when its "version 4" comes out. Meanwhile accumulation of DMD in readiness for that era is ongoing.
-MarkM-
You can contact markm and he will take your DVC tokens at his stellar address and send you blockchain devcoins into your DVC wallet. 1:1 ration of Stellar DVC tokens/DVC. I coordinated with him on the keybase.io chat by direct messaging him at "knotwork" because keybase has a built in wallet for Stellar and its tokens.
Dan, is it too difficult to implement that automatically in the system? Not a criticism, just genuinely asking.
Also Stellar is an open network, good place for DVC to move in and out of as it builds up value per each unit. Not about dollars anymore.
That's very good!! I like that!
Last few times I looked for free open-source code for giving people tokens in return for coins there were two problems:
One, they claimed the code was not for production-use, that is, not actually hardened for real use;
Two, the code minted tokens on the fly to represent the supposedly-received coins, instead of only letting folks "buy" existing tokens already previously minted; that violates my only issue tokens for half my coins policy and also implies issuing tokens representing coins that are probably still in a "hot" wallet no yet actually frozen or buried safely away somewhere.
-MarkM-
No need to serve as a reserve custodian if it's a coin<->token two-way peg using a burn/mint process based on SPV. The proofs are the reserve. If you haven't already, check out Jag's work on Syscoin and how SYS<->SYSX operates between the native coin and the Syscoin Token Platform. Beyond that, from there you can do the same w/ SYSX (Syscoin Token) and get the SYSX (ERC-20). Then you can play in Ethereum's DeFi land if you want, or do whatever Ethereum people do.
It's live on the Syscoin mainnet.
For actual decentralized "DEX" you might also consider BlockNet's BlockDX. They are introducing a lot of improvements recently.
And what guarantees the peg will ALWAYS be 1:1?
It's network enforced that the quantity of the coins burned with `syscoinburntoassetallocation` is the quantity of the specific token to be minted (SYSX Asset: https://sys1.bcfn.ca/asset/1045909988). The SYSX token was provisioned as such, in part by having its entire max supply minted then immediately burned. None of that token is or could float around without having its 1:1 peg as the only way to mint those tokens in the first place (post-provisioning) is out of the token supply that has been burned (again, max supply burned) and that minting can only occur via `syscoinburntoassetallocation` accompanied by a burn of the native coin SYS.
oh, and token spec attribute "max supply" cannot be changed.
Works the same way going the other direction via `assetallocationburn`. The qty of SYSX burned is then re-minted as SYS out of that burned SYS supply pool. Only it isn't necessary to burn the entire supply of the native coin of course... burning the max supply is only necessary for provisioning on the token side.
Ok, so then what’s the redundant need for a token for all these coins? Why not just use DVC, BSV, etc. why are they all adding a token which you have to swap the coin for the token? It doesn’t seem necessary since you can just as easily spend the coin itself.
It's part of giving sovereign owners means that are permissionless and trust-minimized to enable their existing value with new use cases, services, and immediately-ideal characteristics (in areas like transactionality, security, programmability) - options that aren't available when the value is stuck on its original platform. In a word, Interoperability - without using trading mechanisms nor depending on liquidity providers.
Token platforms are conducive to cross-chain integrations like this, especially those that offer programmability like Ethereum in which case a clear path to mutual chain awareness is established. We've accomplished this between Ethereum ERC-20 and Syscoin Platform Tokens using a notion of superblocks... similar to the early Dogethereum idea, but expanded and fleshed-out quite a bit more to the point of actually being production ready and live on a mainnet. ERC-20s can cross to a Syscoin (learn about Syscoin Bridge: https://syscoin.readme.io/docs/what-is-sysethereum-bridge-how-does-it-work) after which they exist as a token on a platform that provides improved means-of-exchange (fast, low-cost microtransactions and scalability - Learn about Z-DAG: https://syscoin.org/news/what-is-z-dag.) - and proven store-of-value which might be particularly important if Ethereum shifts to proof-of-stake. The other side of the coin is that all existing Syscoin Platform Tokens, including SYSX value which is pegged to the native coin SYS, can access Ethereum and all it has to offer ERC-20s.
For interop w/ platforms that don't offer programmability we are exploring ZKP as a way of generalizing the functionality of our bridge.
A shorter way of answering would just be "The reason is the same general idea in what MarkM is doing w/ Stellar, but our path is trust-minimized, permissionless and doesn't involve a token swap where there are reserve tokens in another human's wallet however good their intentions might be"
MarkM, you could integrate assets quite easily for Galactic Milieu. Check out our github when you have time.
You can contact markm and he will take your DVC tokens at his stellar address and send you blockchain devcoins into your DVC wallet. 1:1 ration of Stellar DVC tokens/DVC. I coordinated with him on the keybase.io chat by direct messaging him at "knotwork" because keybase has a built in wallet for Stellar and its tokens.
Dan, is it too difficult to implement that automatically in the system? Not a criticism, just genuinely asking.
Also Stellar is an open network, good place for DVC to move in and out of as it builds up value per each unit. Not about dollars anymore.
That's very good!! I like that!
Last few times I looked for free open-source code for giving people tokens in return for coins there were two problems:
One, they claimed the code was not for production-use, that is, not actually hardened for real use;
Two, the code minted tokens on the fly to represent the supposedly-received coins, instead of only letting folks "buy" existing tokens already previously minted; that violates my only issue tokens for half my coins policy and also implies issuing tokens representing coins that are probably still in a "hot" wallet no yet actually frozen or buried safely away somewhere.
-MarkM-
No need to serve as a reserve custodian if it's a coin<->token two-way peg using a burn/mint process based on SPV. The proofs are the reserve. If you haven't already, check out Jag's work on Syscoin and how SYS<->SYSX operates between the native coin and the Syscoin Token Platform. Beyond that, from there you can do the same w/ SYSX (Syscoin Token) and get the SYSX (ERC-20). Then you can play in Ethereum's DeFi land if you want, or do whatever Ethereum people do.
It's live on the Syscoin mainnet.
For actual decentralized "DEX" you might also consider BlockNet's BlockDX. They are introducing a lot of improvements recently.
And what guarantees the peg will ALWAYS be 1:1?
It's network enforced that the quantity of the coins burned with `syscoinburntoassetallocation` is the quantity of the specific token to be minted (SYSX Asset: https://sys1.bcfn.ca/asset/1045909988). The SYSX token was provisioned as such, in part by having its entire max supply minted then immediately burned. None of that token is or could float around without having its 1:1 peg as the only way to mint those tokens in the first place (post-provisioning) is out of the token supply that has been burned (again, max supply burned) and that minting can only occur via `syscoinburntoassetallocation` accompanied by a burn of the native coin SYS.
oh, and token spec attribute "max supply" cannot be changed.
Works the same way going the other direction via `assetallocationburn`. The qty of SYSX burned is then re-minted as SYS out of that burned SYS supply pool. Only it isn't necessary to burn the entire supply of the native coin of course... burning the max supply is only necessary for provisioning on the token side.
Ok, so then what’s the redundant need for a token for all these coins? Why not just use DVC, BSV, etc. why are they all adding a token which you have to swap the coin for the token? It doesn’t seem necessary since you can just as easily spend the coin itself.
You can contact markm and he will take your DVC tokens at his stellar address and send you blockchain devcoins into your DVC wallet. 1:1 ration of Stellar DVC tokens/DVC. I coordinated with him on the keybase.io chat by direct messaging him at "knotwork" because keybase has a built in wallet for Stellar and its tokens.
Dan, is it too difficult to implement that automatically in the system? Not a criticism, just genuinely asking.
Also Stellar is an open network, good place for DVC to move in and out of as it builds up value per each unit. Not about dollars anymore.
That's very good!! I like that!
Last few times I looked for free open-source code for giving people tokens in return for coins there were two problems:
One, they claimed the code was not for production-use, that is, not actually hardened for real use;
Two, the code minted tokens on the fly to represent the supposedly-received coins, instead of only letting folks "buy" existing tokens already previously minted; that violates my only issue tokens for half my coins policy and also implies issuing tokens representing coins that are probably still in a "hot" wallet no yet actually frozen or buried safely away somewhere.
-MarkM-
No need to serve as a reserve custodian if it's a coin<->token two-way peg using a burn/mint process based on SPV. The proofs are the reserve. If you haven't already, check out Jag's work on Syscoin and how SYS<->SYSX operates between the native coin and the Syscoin Token Platform. Beyond that, from there you can do the same w/ SYSX (Syscoin Token) and get the SYSX (ERC-20). Then you can play in Ethereum's DeFi land if you want, or do whatever Ethereum people do.
It's live on the Syscoin mainnet.
For actual decentralized "DEX" you might also consider BlockNet's BlockDX. They are introducing a lot of improvements recently.
And what guarantees the peg will ALWAYS be 1:1?
It's network enforced that the quantity of the coins burned with `syscoinburntoassetallocation` is the quantity of the specific token to be minted (SYSX Asset: https://sys1.bcfn.ca/asset/1045909988). The SYSX token was provisioned as such, in part by having its entire max supply minted then immediately burned. None of that token is or could float around without having its 1:1 peg as the only way to mint those tokens in the first place (post-provisioning) is out of the token supply that has been burned (again, max supply burned) and that minting can only occur via `syscoinburntoassetallocation` accompanied by a burn of the native coin SYS.
oh, and token spec attribute "max supply" cannot be changed.
Works the same way going the other direction via `assetallocationburn`. The qty of SYSX burned is then re-minted as SYS out of that burned SYS supply pool. Only it isn't necessary to burn the entire supply of the native coin of course... burning the max supply is only necessary for provisioning on the token side.
You can contact markm and he will take your DVC tokens at his stellar address and send you blockchain devcoins into your DVC wallet. 1:1 ration of Stellar DVC tokens/DVC. I coordinated with him on the keybase.io chat by direct messaging him at "knotwork" because keybase has a built in wallet for Stellar and its tokens.
Dan, is it too difficult to implement that automatically in the system? Not a criticism, just genuinely asking.
Also Stellar is an open network, good place for DVC to move in and out of as it builds up value per each unit. Not about dollars anymore.
That's very good!! I like that!
Last few times I looked for free open-source code for giving people tokens in return for coins there were two problems:
One, they claimed the code was not for production-use, that is, not actually hardened for real use;
Two, the code minted tokens on the fly to represent the supposedly-received coins, instead of only letting folks "buy" existing tokens already previously minted; that violates my only issue tokens for half my coins policy and also implies issuing tokens representing coins that are probably still in a "hot" wallet no yet actually frozen or buried safely away somewhere.
-MarkM-
No need to serve as a reserve custodian if it's a coin<->token two-way peg using a burn/mint process based on SPV. The proofs are the reserve. If you haven't already, check out Jag's work on Syscoin and how SYS<->SYSX operates between the native coin and the Syscoin Token Platform. Beyond that, from there you can do the same w/ SYSX (Syscoin Token) and get the SYSX (ERC-20). Then you can play in Ethereum's DeFi land if you want, or do whatever Ethereum people do.
It's live on the Syscoin mainnet.
For actual decentralized "DEX" you might also consider BlockNet's BlockDX. They are introducing a lot of improvements recently.
And what guarantees the peg will ALWAYS be 1:1?
You can contact markm and he will take your DVC tokens at his stellar address and send you blockchain devcoins into your DVC wallet. 1:1 ration of Stellar DVC tokens/DVC. I coordinated with him on the keybase.io chat by direct messaging him at "knotwork" because keybase has a built in wallet for Stellar and its tokens.
Dan, is it too difficult to implement that automatically in the system? Not a criticism, just genuinely asking.
Also Stellar is an open network, good place for DVC to move in and out of as it builds up value per each unit. Not about dollars anymore.
That's very good!! I like that!
Last few times I looked for free open-source code for giving people tokens in return for coins there were two problems:
One, they claimed the code was not for production-use, that is, not actually hardened for real use;
Two, the code minted tokens on the fly to represent the supposedly-received coins, instead of only letting folks "buy" existing tokens already previously minted; that violates my only issue tokens for half my coins policy and also implies issuing tokens representing coins that are probably still in a "hot" wallet no yet actually frozen or buried safely away somewhere.
-MarkM-
No need to serve as a reserve custodian if it's a coin<->token two-way peg using a burn/mint process based on SPV. The proofs are the reserve. If you haven't already, check out Jag's work on Syscoin and how SYS<->SYSX operates between the native coin and the Syscoin Token Platform. Beyond that, from there you can do the same w/ SYSX (Syscoin Token) and get the SYSX (ERC-20). Then you can play in Ethereum's DeFi land if you want, or do whatever Ethereum people do.
It's live on the Syscoin mainnet.
For actual decentralized "DEX" you might also consider BlockNet's BlockDX. They are introducing a lot of improvements recently.
You can contact markm and he will take your DVC tokens at his stellar address and send you blockchain devcoins into your DVC wallet. 1:1 ration of Stellar DVC tokens/DVC. I coordinated with him on the keybase.io chat by direct messaging him at "knotwork" because keybase has a built in wallet for Stellar and its tokens.
Dan, is it too difficult to implement that automatically in the system? Not a criticism, just genuinely asking.
Also Stellar is an open network, good place for DVC to move in and out of as it builds up value per each unit. Not about dollars anymore.
That's very good!! I like that!
Last few times I looked for free open-source code for giving people tokens in return for coins there were two problems:
One, they claimed the code was not for production-use, that is, not actually hardened for real use;
Two, the code minted tokens on the fly to represent the supposedly-received coins, instead of only letting folks "buy" existing tokens already previously minted; that violates my only issue tokens for half my coins policy and also implies issuing tokens representing coins that are probably still in a "hot" wallet no yet actually frozen or buried safely away somewhere.
-MarkM-
Once upon a time PayPal and VirWox of Switzerland (hello SIX and I0C port 7333!) devs used to let me buy more SLL than I could afford for BTC. It was probably an intentional secret to see who would later realize the game by such a method. It let me know that as tight as a spread might be there's still a hole in the system where things "slip through" and in that pinkish/gray area I think there's certainly room for a time-hardened coin like DVC which will be able to insure anyone who floods in later looking for such a coin/system to transfer, transact, etc in DeFi. When they do choose to put their money, whatever money or value they have for that matter, into OUR coin, using OUR secure chain - DVC will be at the heart of the DeFi economy. At the end of the day the rules will close that spread/gap and the gamemaster will have enough peers "officers" so they never lose too much on fees, but also collect back enough interest to keep the clan of officers intact. The 100+% reserve works.
Yeah, DVC can hit $.10-$.20 but I’ve been buying the real deal. That said I still own a bit of DVC.
https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/IXC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5?filter=orderbook&pair=DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5-1
You can contact markm and he will take your DVC tokens at his stellar address and send you blockchain devcoins into your DVC wallet. 1:1 ration of Stellar DVC tokens/DVC. I coordinated with him on the keybase.io chat by direct messaging him at "knotwork" because keybase has a built in wallet for Stellar and its tokens.
Dan, is it too difficult to implement that automatically in the system? Not a criticism, just genuinely asking.
Also Stellar is an open network, good place for DVC to move in and out of as it builds up value per each unit. Not about dollars anymore.
That's very good!! I like that!
Last few times I looked for free open-source code for giving people tokens in return for coins there were two problems:
One, they claimed the code was not for production-use, that is, not actually hardened for real use;
Two, the code minted tokens on the fly to represent the supposedly-received coins, instead of only letting folks "buy" existing tokens already previously minted; that violates my only issue tokens for half my coins policy and also implies issuing tokens representing coins that are probably still in a "hot" wallet no yet actually frozen or buried safely away somewhere.
-MarkM-
Once upon a time PayPal and VirWox of Switzerland (hello SIX and I0C port 7333!) devs used to let me buy more SLL than I could afford for BTC. It was probably an intentional secret to see who would later realize the game by such a method. It let me know that as tight as a spread might be there's still a hole in the system where things "slip through" and in that pinkish/gray area I think there's certainly room for a time-hardened coin like DVC which will be able to insure anyone who floods in later looking for such a coin/system to transfer, transact, etc in DeFi. When they do choose to put their money, whatever money or value they have for that matter, into OUR coin, using OUR secure chain - DVC will be at the heart of the DeFi economy. At the end of the day the rules will close that spread/gap and the gamemaster will have enough peers "officers" so they never lose too much on fees, but also collect back enough interest to keep the clan of officers intact. The 100+% reserve works.
Yeah, DVC can hit $.10-$.20 but I’ve been buying the real deal. That said I still own a bit of DVC.
You can contact markm and he will take your DVC tokens at his stellar address and send you blockchain devcoins into your DVC wallet. 1:1 ration of Stellar DVC tokens/DVC. I coordinated with him on the keybase.io chat by direct messaging him at "knotwork" because keybase has a built in wallet for Stellar and its tokens.
Dan, is it too difficult to implement that automatically in the system? Not a criticism, just genuinely asking.
Also Stellar is an open network, good place for DVC to move in and out of as it builds up value per each unit. Not about dollars anymore.
That's very good!! I like that!
Last few times I looked for free open-source code for giving people tokens in return for coins there were two problems:
One, they claimed the code was not for production-use, that is, not actually hardened for real use;
Two, the code minted tokens on the fly to represent the supposedly-received coins, instead of only letting folks "buy" existing tokens already previously minted; that violates my only issue tokens for half my coins policy and also implies issuing tokens representing coins that are probably still in a "hot" wallet no yet actually frozen or buried safely away somewhere.
-MarkM-
Once upon a time PayPal and VirWox of Switzerland (hello SIX and I0C port 7333!) devs used to let me buy more SLL than I could afford for BTC. It was probably an intentional secret to see who would later realize the game by such a method. It let me know that as tight as a spread might be there's still a hole in the system where things "slip through" and in that pinkish/gray area I think there's certainly room for a time-hardened coin like DVC which will be able to insure anyone who floods in later looking for such a coin/system to transfer, transact, etc in DeFi. When they do choose to put their money, whatever money or value they have for that matter, into OUR coin, using OUR secure chain - DVC will be at the heart of the DeFi economy. At the end of the day the rules will close that spread/gap and the gamemaster will have enough peers "officers" so they never lose too much on fees, but also collect back enough interest to keep the clan of officers intact. The 100+% reserve works.
You can contact markm and he will take your DVC tokens at his stellar address and send you blockchain devcoins into your DVC wallet. 1:1 ration of Stellar DVC tokens/DVC. I coordinated with him on the keybase.io chat by direct messaging him at "knotwork" because keybase has a built in wallet for Stellar and its tokens.
Dan, is it too difficult to implement that automatically in the system? Not a criticism, just genuinely asking.
Also Stellar is an open network, good place for DVC to move in and out of as it builds up value per each unit. Not about dollars anymore.
That's very good!! I like that!
Last few times I looked for free open-source code for giving people tokens in return for coins there were two problems:
One, they claimed the code was not for production-use, that is, not actually hardened for real use;
Two, the code minted tokens on the fly to represent the supposedly-received coins, instead of only letting folks "buy" existing tokens already previously minted; that violates my only issue tokens for half my coins policy and also implies issuing tokens representing coins that are probably still in a "hot" wallet not yet actually frozen or buried safely away somewhere.
-MarkM-
Why would anyone exchange dvc coins for dvc tokens which can be minted at will? Unless I’m wrong about that. This sounds like fractional reserve banning to me.
You are absoutely correct, except my fraction policy is the opposite of what you are thinking of, since my policy is to only issue tokens representing HALF of the coins I actually have, so that that half can in principle be locked away extremely hard to get at while I still have the other half with which to "redeem" the tokens.
Check my Digitalis Open Transactions Server thread and you will see this is my original policy from way back when we were using the Open Transactions platform.
-MarkM-
So you bought dvc from markm's account with the XLM deposited, correct? None of your own personal dvc has left your wallet, or can you clarify how "I bought some DVC tokens from MarkM's issuer account"?
I am failing to see that anyone other than markm is able to actually sell dvc on Stellar? please correct me if I am wrong and walk me through it otherwise dvc cannot be advertising Stellar as a SELLING platform for dvc.
I am failing to see that anyone other than markm is able to actually sell dvc on Stellar? please correct me if I am wrong and walk me through it otherwise dvc cannot be advertising Stellar as a SELLING platform for dvc.
Fuzzy, I think we can't deposit nor withdraw DVC coins in there, as I understand those are the DVC Tokens, and you can buy and sell them but you can't take them out to your DVC wallet and vice-versa. I don't know if I'm getting it right but that's what I understand about the interstellar network. I have bought and sell some of those tokens but to take them out you have to convert them into LTC or any other coin.
Or have me or anyone else looking to "cash out" DVC tokens for actual DVC coins on the blockchain send you tokens for coins.
Safest contact means is probably the KEYBASE end to end encrypted chat assuming it really IS end to end encrypted. It also contains a Stellar wallet, conveniently.
-MarkM-
Exchanges keep pushing everyday to list Devcoin!
Following the latest proposal from WhiteBIT's Artem:
The above is an answer to the conditions I'm sharing with every single exchange knocking on Devcoin Foundation's door:
Btw, I value the work of people specialized on listing and promoting cryptocurrencies, since that is marketers job, not mine.
The next step is to provision a reserve of 1 BTC. I'm not saying that WhiteBIT will take it. Rather we should invest about that much money ourselves or via a partnership. Btw, somebody has to pay the bill at EOD.
People interested on helping with a fundraiser campaing for listing Devcoin, please contact me, we have a lot of work upfront!
- develCuy
Following the latest proposal from WhiteBIT's Artem:
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I'm sorry that I didn't send the info yesterday, I had to discuss ROI with my team.
ROI and its timeframe is unique for every project and depends on many factors as marketing, idea, interactions with community etc
It can take a month and it can be a year, everything depends on your flow
Now, about the pricing. In budget of 2 BTC we can provide you with:
- The Integration, up to 3 markets on your choice
Crypto: BTC, ETH
Stable: USDT, TUSD, USDC, PAX
Fiat: USD, EUR, RUB, UAH
- Announcements in our social media
- Targeted email campaign for the entire duration of the marketing activities
- Zero-fee trading for the community for 2 weeks after the listing
- Zero-fee accounts for you for 3-months
- Of course, the support
Personal exchange assistant for you
24/7 Support for your community
You can use 0% fee, to use your own trading software without paying any trading comissions. So, you can generate volume, create an attractive trading chart etc without additional costs.
Zero-fee for your community is a great thing to stimulate organic trades.
I suppose it will be great to start with 1 pair first (USDT, for example), gain liquidity and after this start other markets. In such way we'll reduce the liquidity budget in future
If such integration plan is good for you, I can try to convince my top-management to provide you with 50% discount to make it 1 BTC
ROI and its timeframe is unique for every project and depends on many factors as marketing, idea, interactions with community etc
It can take a month and it can be a year, everything depends on your flow
Now, about the pricing. In budget of 2 BTC we can provide you with:
- The Integration, up to 3 markets on your choice
Crypto: BTC, ETH
Stable: USDT, TUSD, USDC, PAX
Fiat: USD, EUR, RUB, UAH
- Announcements in our social media
- Targeted email campaign for the entire duration of the marketing activities
- Zero-fee trading for the community for 2 weeks after the listing
- Zero-fee accounts for you for 3-months
- Of course, the support
Personal exchange assistant for you
24/7 Support for your community
You can use 0% fee, to use your own trading software without paying any trading comissions. So, you can generate volume, create an attractive trading chart etc without additional costs.
Zero-fee for your community is a great thing to stimulate organic trades.
I suppose it will be great to start with 1 pair first (USDT, for example), gain liquidity and after this start other markets. In such way we'll reduce the liquidity budget in future
If such integration plan is good for you, I can try to convince my top-management to provide you with 50% discount to make it 1 BTC
The above is an answer to the conditions I'm sharing with every single exchange knocking on Devcoin Foundation's door:
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... the parameters that we are looking for:
Fernando develCuy, [01.09.20 23:13]
1. EXCHANGE proposal should include: % probability of ROI & timeframe for ROI (based on EXCHANGE experience with other coins/tokens)
2. Devcoin project would invest up to 1 BTC after discounts from EXCHANGE
If you can help with the above, I'll reach the whole Devcoin project team and ask them to evaluate your offer.
Fernando develCuy, [01.09.20 23:13]
1. EXCHANGE proposal should include: % probability of ROI & timeframe for ROI (based on EXCHANGE experience with other coins/tokens)
2. Devcoin project would invest up to 1 BTC after discounts from EXCHANGE
If you can help with the above, I'll reach the whole Devcoin project team and ask them to evaluate your offer.
Btw, I value the work of people specialized on listing and promoting cryptocurrencies, since that is marketers job, not mine.
The next step is to provision a reserve of 1 BTC. I'm not saying that WhiteBIT will take it. Rather we should invest about that much money ourselves or via a partnership. Btw, somebody has to pay the bill at EOD.
People interested on helping with a fundraiser campaing for listing Devcoin, please contact me, we have a lot of work upfront!
- develCuy
Yup I agree this is way too complicated for 99% of users
@realdantreccia How did you deposit dvc into stellar? I can deposit btc etc through the trusted vendors, adding the dvc asset to your homepage can be done easily enough by linking markm's account https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5
But there is no deposit link against markm account for dve like there is for btc, eth etc.
I get that this is trading a dvc token which represents the dvc, is the solution here to either setup my own amount of dvc tokens like markm has and see if stellar will link the two as being the same or to trade off stellar chain with markm dvc for dvc token... or am i missing something here?
Fuzzybear
@realdantreccia How did you deposit dvc into stellar? I can deposit btc etc through the trusted vendors, adding the dvc asset to your homepage can be done easily enough by linking markm's account https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5
But there is no deposit link against markm account for dve like there is for btc, eth etc.
I get that this is trading a dvc token which represents the dvc, is the solution here to either setup my own amount of dvc tokens like markm has and see if stellar will link the two as being the same or to trade off stellar chain with markm dvc for dvc token... or am i missing something here?
Fuzzybear
Hey Fb. I just bought XLM and went right to StellarTerm the last time I bought some DVC tokens from MarkM's issuer account. Then I went from there to trade for interstellar.exchange's Eth tokens using the StellarTerm platform to trade.
That should, technically, be incorrect, IN THAT my issuer account SHOULD only be issuing things to an issued-to account which in turn passes them on to wherever they are going.
Whenever creating tokens it is wise to only issue them to a separate issued-to account, for various reasons including that on some/many platforms sending tokens back to the actual issuer vanishes them.
On the Stellar platform that happens but also on Stellar the issuer does not typically see in their client how many they issued, so I use my issued-to account's trust-line size as my record of how many total I have issued. Which also means every one of them can be sent back to the issued-to account for re-use instead of sent back to the actual issuer vanishing them.
Like I said, a technicality.
-MarkM-
@realdantreccia How did you deposit dvc into stellar? I can deposit btc etc through the trusted vendors, adding the dvc asset to your homepage can be done easily enough by linking markm's account https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5
But there is no deposit link against markm account for dve like there is for btc, eth etc.
I get that this is trading a dvc token which represents the dvc, is the solution here to either setup my own amount of dvc tokens like markm has and see if stellar will link the two as being the same or to trade off stellar chain with markm dvc for dvc token... or am i missing something here?
Fuzzybear
Chat with me in KEYBASE end-to-end encrypted chat, I give you blockchain-DVC address to send DVC to and send you tokens; or, do similar deal with anyone else who has tokens they want to cash out to actual on-the-blockchain DVC coins.
PROVISO: This assumes I have spare DVC tokens sitting around; better in the long term is if you can send me fuckloads of actual DVC so I can issue half that many new DVC tokens, but that assumes you want something else that I have available in return for the other half of the actual coins you send.
You can see a whole selection of other things I have available in the tables plots etc linked from http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html and/or mentioned on y http://makemoney.knotwork.com/ site.
-MarkM-
Found a working direct link to trade the Devcoin token and XLM on Stellar DEX using the StellarTerm website.
Looks like the order books are correct and the issuer is MarkM's account.
https://stellarterm.com/exchange/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5/XLM-native
Looks like the order books are correct and the issuer is MarkM's account.
https://stellarterm.com/exchange/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5/XLM-native
Yes, I have ancient stockpiles of many coins, mostly those in use in the Galactic Milieu, both on the HORIZON platform and the Stellar platform, see http://makemoney.knotwork.com/
My policy is to issue tokens representing only HALF of the coins I actually have, so that in principle that half can be buried under my swimming-pool or split between umpteen split-keys divided among many many deposit-boxes or whatever, "forever" or until my heirs and assigns decide for some reason there is no further use or need for the tokens; meanwhile the other half can be used to cash back out all the tokens without having to go digging into those ancient piles of coins to redeem the tokens.
Look for me in the KEYBASE end to end encrypted chat system that includes a Stellar wallet.
That particular Stellar wallet does not seem to support creating trust-lines for arbitrary tokens so you likely will need to use some other Stellar client to actually set up trust lines initially, but once the account used by your KEYBASE Stellar-wallet has the trust lines the tokens can be sent received etc right in there while we use the chat to co-ordinate.
NOTE that although I can issue more of the tokens given more of the actual on-the-blockchain coins, my policy of only issuing tokens representing HALF the coins I have means that if you do want me to issue new tokens for new coins you send me I will only be able to issue HALF as many tokens as you send coins. So basically you need to buy something with the other half.
For example DevelCuy not swo long ago sent me a bunch of actual DeVCoins, half of which bought General Financial Corp (GFC) shares; the other half allowed me to issue a number of new tokens representing half the coins he sent me.
-MarkM-
Hi,
win 8.1 QT Version 5.2.0
win 7 won't open wallet ,
Devcoin-Qt (OSS GUI client for Devcoin)
Devcoin-1.0.16-w32\Devcoin-qt.exe"
Can't work out how to insert screen print
hopefully this helps
Why don't you save your wallet.dat and upgrade to newer version of Windows? Windows 10 working fine. It was a free upgrade for me back in 2015? I think it was 2015
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