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legendary
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So you bought dvc from markm's account with the XLM deposited, correct? None of your own personal dvc has left your wallet, or can you clarify how "I bought some DVC tokens from MarkM's issuer account"?

I am failing to see that anyone other than markm is able to actually sell dvc on Stellar? please correct me if I am wrong and walk me through it otherwise dvc cannot be advertising Stellar as a SELLING platform for dvc.

Fuzzy, I think we can't deposit nor withdraw DVC coins in there, as I understand those are the DVC Tokens, and you can buy and sell them but you can't take them out to your DVC wallet and vice-versa. I don't know if I'm getting it right but that's what I understand about the interstellar network. I have bought and sell some of those tokens but to take them out you have to convert them into LTC or any other coin.

You can contact markm and he will take your DVC tokens at his stellar address and send you blockchain devcoins into your DVC wallet. 1:1 ration of Stellar DVC tokens/DVC. I coordinated with him on the keybase.io chat by direct messaging him at "knotwork" because keybase has a built in wallet for Stellar and its tokens.

Also Stellar is an open network, good place for DVC to move in and out of as it builds up value per each unit. Not about dollars anymore.

Why would anyone exchange dvc coins for dvc tokens which can be minted at will?  Unless I’m wrong about that.  This sounds like fractional reserve banning to me. 
hero member
Activity: 666
Merit: 516
Fuck BlackRock
So you bought dvc from markm's account with the XLM deposited, correct? None of your own personal dvc has left your wallet, or can you clarify how "I bought some DVC tokens from MarkM's issuer account"?

I am failing to see that anyone other than markm is able to actually sell dvc on Stellar? please correct me if I am wrong and walk me through it otherwise dvc cannot be advertising Stellar as a SELLING platform for dvc.

Fuzzy, I think we can't deposit nor withdraw DVC coins in there, as I understand those are the DVC Tokens, and you can buy and sell them but you can't take them out to your DVC wallet and vice-versa. I don't know if I'm getting it right but that's what I understand about the interstellar network. I have bought and sell some of those tokens but to take them out you have to convert them into LTC or any other coin.

You can contact markm and he will take your DVC tokens at his stellar address and send you blockchain devcoins into your DVC wallet. 1:1 ration of Stellar DVC tokens/DVC. I coordinated with him on the keybase.io chat by direct messaging him at "knotwork" because keybase has a built in wallet for Stellar and its tokens.

Also Stellar is an open network, good place for DVC to move in and out of as it builds up value per each unit. Not about dollars anymore.
member
Activity: 161
Merit: 14
So you bought dvc from markm's account with the XLM deposited, correct? None of your own personal dvc has left your wallet, or can you clarify how "I bought some DVC tokens from MarkM's issuer account"?

I am failing to see that anyone other than markm is able to actually sell dvc on Stellar? please correct me if I am wrong and walk me through it otherwise dvc cannot be advertising Stellar as a SELLING platform for dvc.

Fuzzy, I think we can't deposit nor withdraw DVC coins in there, as I understand those are the DVC Tokens, and you can buy and sell them but you can't take them out to your DVC wallet and vice-versa. I don't know if I'm getting it right but that's what I understand about the interstellar network. I have bought and sell some of those tokens but to take them out you have to convert them into LTC or any other coin.
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1534
www.ixcoin.net
Yup I agree this is way too complicated for 99% of users

@realdantreccia How did you deposit dvc into stellar? I can deposit btc etc through the trusted vendors, adding the dvc asset to your homepage can be done easily enough by linking markm's account https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5

But there is no deposit link against markm account for dve like there is for btc, eth etc.

I get that this is trading a dvc token which represents the dvc, is the solution here to either setup my own amount of dvc tokens like markm has and see if stellar will link the two as being the same or to trade off stellar chain with markm dvc for dvc token... or am i missing something here?

Fuzzybear

Hey Fb. I just bought XLM and went right to StellarTerm the last time I bought some DVC tokens from MarkM's issuer account. Then I went from there to trade for interstellar.exchange's Eth tokens using the StellarTerm platform to trade.

So you bought dvc from markm's account with the XLM deposited, correct? None of your own personal dvc has left your wallet, or can you clarify how "I bought some DVC tokens from MarkM's issuer account"?

I am failing to see that anyone other than markm is able to actually sell dvc on Stellar? please correct me if I am wrong and walk me through it otherwise dvc cannot be advertising Stellar as a SELLING platform for dvc.

I'm investigating the setting up my own dvc denominated token but if that is the requirement to sell dvc then where is the guide for a non developer person from the dvc community?

@develCuy care to share any info, help or links as your asking everyone to get up to speed but provide no actual info or help to the users sharing their issues, or is this all new to you too?

Fuzzybear

Just log into interstellar.exchange with your XLM key (it'll have you create a session password too) - then follow this link to swap XLM (preload some into your account) for DVC:

https://interstellar.exchange/app/#/trade/guest/DVC/GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5/XLM/native

It's word for word described in my Steemit tutorial develCuy shared. I know its kinda vague but you're here so I assume you know way more about the DevCoin project in general =)

Still happy to spend my time trying to comply and "help" you brainiacs  Grin

Stop it, you don’t do vague.  Thanks for your input. 
hero member
Activity: 666
Merit: 516
Fuck BlackRock
Yup I agree this is way too complicated for 99% of users

@realdantreccia How did you deposit dvc into stellar? I can deposit btc etc through the trusted vendors, adding the dvc asset to your homepage can be done easily enough by linking markm's account https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5

But there is no deposit link against markm account for dve like there is for btc, eth etc.

I get that this is trading a dvc token which represents the dvc, is the solution here to either setup my own amount of dvc tokens like markm has and see if stellar will link the two as being the same or to trade off stellar chain with markm dvc for dvc token... or am i missing something here?

Fuzzybear

Hey Fb. I just bought XLM and went right to StellarTerm the last time I bought some DVC tokens from MarkM's issuer account. Then I went from there to trade for interstellar.exchange's Eth tokens using the StellarTerm platform to trade.

So you bought dvc from markm's account with the XLM deposited, correct? None of your own personal dvc has left your wallet, or can you clarify how "I bought some DVC tokens from MarkM's issuer account"?

I am failing to see that anyone other than markm is able to actually sell dvc on Stellar? please correct me if I am wrong and walk me through it otherwise dvc cannot be advertising Stellar as a SELLING platform for dvc.

I'm investigating the setting up my own dvc denominated token but if that is the requirement to sell dvc then where is the guide for a non developer person from the dvc community?

@develCuy care to share any info, help or links as your asking everyone to get up to speed but provide no actual info or help to the users sharing their issues, or is this all new to you too?

Fuzzybear

Just log into interstellar.exchange with your XLM key (it'll have you create a session password too) - then follow this link to swap XLM (preload some into your account) for DVC:

https://interstellar.exchange/app/#/trade/guest/DVC/GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5/XLM/native

It's word for word described in my Steemit tutorial develCuy shared. I know its kinda vague but you're here so I assume you know way more about the DevCoin project in general =)

Still happy to spend my time trying to comply and "help" you brainiacs  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1420
Merit: 1010
Yup I agree this is way too complicated for 99% of users

@realdantreccia How did you deposit dvc into stellar? I can deposit btc etc through the trusted vendors, adding the dvc asset to your homepage can be done easily enough by linking markm's account https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5

But there is no deposit link against markm account for dve like there is for btc, eth etc.

I get that this is trading a dvc token which represents the dvc, is the solution here to either setup my own amount of dvc tokens like markm has and see if stellar will link the two as being the same or to trade off stellar chain with markm dvc for dvc token... or am i missing something here?

Fuzzybear

Hey Fb. I just bought XLM and went right to StellarTerm the last time I bought some DVC tokens from MarkM's issuer account. Then I went from there to trade for interstellar.exchange's Eth tokens using the StellarTerm platform to trade.

So you bought dvc from markm's account with the XLM deposited, correct? None of your own personal dvc has left your wallet, or can you clarify how "I bought some DVC tokens from MarkM's issuer account"?

I am failing to see that anyone other than markm is able to actually sell dvc on Stellar? please correct me if I am wrong and walk me through it otherwise dvc cannot be advertising Stellar as a SELLING platform for dvc.

I'm investigating the setting up my own dvc denominated token but if that is the requirement to sell dvc then where is the guide for a non developer person from the dvc community?

@develCuy care to share any info, help or links as your asking everyone to get up to speed but provide no actual info or help to the users sharing their issues, or is this all new to you too?

Fuzzybear
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1534
www.ixcoin.net

Dan, you pulled your book?  Why?  I’m trying to buy it and this is what I get? 

This title is not currently available for purchase.”

Why you keeping us in the dark, bro?  :/


Weird, I had no problem buying it last tear.  Maybe they ran put of print - i did count 5 Sales at the Time.  Any idea what’s going on, Dan?  Thanks, bud. 

sr. member
Activity: 261
Merit: 305

Dan, you pulled your book?  Why?  I’m trying to buy it and this is what I get? 

This title is not currently available for purchase.”

Why you keeping us in the dark, bro?  :/
sr. member
Activity: 261
Merit: 305
Many obligations left OTC/abstracted that I trust will make sense in time. Even to 99% of people who didn't look deeper and go with their gut. Smiley

https://bithomp.com/explorer/r3gHXhK1pwZFG9ESiaosxjufEVQjwGuJUd

So alpha.

Omega ready to pounce, EDD.  Wink


Would merit this if v1 children account was not DRY

You have no merits to give?  It’s not right after all the work and research you’ve put in.  Let me talk to some ballers. 


I agree with this new guy.  Much deserved merits inkoming for our resident author.  And how many have supported Dan’s ideas and theories for only $10 by purchasing abc reading his book?  Pretty sad cheap people we got in crypto.  Your loss.  Big loss. 



Okay we get it. Smiley

Doxing your user handle on bitcointalk is so 2018.

Whatever do you mean?  I’m just trying to give credit where credit is due.  You sure you wanna mess with my circle of friends?   Grin

Gonna search for your book now, homie. 
sr. member
Activity: 261
Merit: 305
Many obligations left OTC/abstracted that I trust will make sense in time. Even to 99% of people who didn't look deeper and go with their gut. Smiley

https://bithomp.com/explorer/r3gHXhK1pwZFG9ESiaosxjufEVQjwGuJUd

So alpha.

Omega ready to pounce, EDD.  Wink


Would merit this if v1 children account was not DRY

You have no merits to give?  It’s not right after all the work and research you’ve put in.  Let me talk to some ballers. 


I agree with this new guy.  Much deserved merits inkoming for our resident author.  And how many have supported Dan’s ideas and theories for only $10 by purchasing abc reading his book?  Pretty sad cheap people we got in crypto.  Your loss.  Big loss. 



Nice gesture, man.  You’re a generous guy.  I’ll search for his book and maybe buy it.  What’s $10 these days and how many of us in crypto support those doing so much work for free.  Really upsetting seeing such selfish people.  
hero member
Activity: 666
Merit: 516
Fuck BlackRock
Many obligations left OTC/abstracted that I trust will make sense in time. Even to 99% of people who didn't look deeper and go with their gut. Smiley

https://bithomp.com/explorer/r3gHXhK1pwZFG9ESiaosxjufEVQjwGuJUd

So alpha.

Omega ready to pounce, EDD.  Wink


Would merit this if v1 children account was not DRY

You have no merits to give?  It’s not right after all the work and research you’ve put in.  Let me talk to some ballers. 


I agree with this new guy.  Much deserved merits inkoming for our resident author.  And how many have supported Dan’s ideas and theories for only $10 by purchasing abc reading his book?  Pretty sad cheap people we got in crypto.  Your loss.  Big loss. 



Okay we get it. Smiley

Doxing your user handle on bitcointalk is so 2018.
hero member
Activity: 666
Merit: 516
Fuck BlackRock
Many obligations left OTC/abstracted that I trust will make sense in time. Even to 99% of people who didn't look deeper and go with their gut. Smiley

https://bithomp.com/explorer/r3gHXhK1pwZFG9ESiaosxjufEVQjwGuJUd

So alpha.

I just noticed you like to turn out food food supply into ethanol when the US is energy independent and one of the cleanest air qualities in the world.  For a well researched guy I’m surprised you missed this important part of the snowflake philosophy.  

It takes 19 gallons of water to produce a bushel of corn in Region 5, 38 gallons in Region 6, and 865 gallons in Region 7. The Baker Institute estimates that producing the corn to meet the ethanol mandate for 2015 will require 2.9 trillion gallons of water.

Clean coal fired plants and natural gas - it’s there for a reason and very cheap.  Plus the US is energy independent.   Use it cause we’ve handed over enough of US wealth and sovereignty to our enemies.  


I never missed that actually. Its just my v2 self doesn't share every realization or transaction inside of my mind. It's fun to abstract some things. I realized the one thing I will always have is my mind and you can't hack that. It's important to me to keep some things in the old brainframe locked for the time being Wink

It's powerful to do so. And also when you realize you're wasting your time broadcasting to everyone who already hears you on the inside part past the tunnel/channel. So I operate with a bit of mystery. But thank you for sharing these facts.

I don't really care what the government does anymore, they're willing to lie this much on news media to their own people it must be for a good and bigger picture type reason down the road.

Until then, I just stare at blocks and mempools Tongue
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1534
www.ixcoin.net
Many obligations left OTC/abstracted that I trust will make sense in time. Even to 99% of people who didn't look deeper and go with their gut. Smiley

https://bithomp.com/explorer/r3gHXhK1pwZFG9ESiaosxjufEVQjwGuJUd

So alpha.

Omega ready to pounce, EDD.  Wink


Would merit this if v1 children account was not DRY

You have no merits to give?  It’s not right after all the work and research you’ve put in.  Let me talk to some ballers. 


I agree with this new guy.  Much deserved merits inkoming for our resident author.  And how many have supported Dan’s ideas and theories for only $10 by purchasing abc reading his book?  Pretty sad cheap people we got in crypto.  Your loss.  Big loss. 

sr. member
Activity: 261
Merit: 305
Many obligations left OTC/abstracted that I trust will make sense in time. Even to 99% of people who didn't look deeper and go with their gut. Smiley

https://bithomp.com/explorer/r3gHXhK1pwZFG9ESiaosxjufEVQjwGuJUd

So alpha.

Omega ready to pounce, EDD.  Wink


Would merit this if v1 children account was not DRY

You have no merits to give?  It’s not right after all the work and research you’ve put in.  Let me talk to some ballers. 
sr. member
Activity: 261
Merit: 305
Many obligations left OTC/abstracted that I trust will make sense in time. Even to 99% of people who didn't look deeper and go with their gut. Smiley

https://bithomp.com/explorer/r3gHXhK1pwZFG9ESiaosxjufEVQjwGuJUd

So alpha.

I just noticed you like to turn out food food supply into ethanol when the US is energy independent and one of the cleanest air qualities in the world.  For a well researched guy I’m surprised you missed this important part of the snowflake philosophy.  

It takes 19 gallons of water to produce a bushel of corn in Region 5, 38 gallons in Region 6, and 865 gallons in Region 7. The Baker Institute estimates that producing the corn to meet the ethanol mandate for 2015 will require 2.9 trillion gallons of water.

Clean coal fired plants and natural gas - it’s there for a reason and very cheap.  Plus the US is energy independent.   Use it cause we’ve handed over enough of US wealth and sovereignty to our enemies.  
hero member
Activity: 666
Merit: 516
Fuck BlackRock
Many obligations left OTC/abstracted that I trust will make sense in time. Even to 99% of people who didn't look deeper and go with their gut. Smiley

https://bithomp.com/explorer/r3gHXhK1pwZFG9ESiaosxjufEVQjwGuJUd

So alpha.

Omega ready to pounce, EDD.  Wink


Would merit this if v1 children account was not DRY
sr. member
Activity: 261
Merit: 305
Many obligations left OTC/abstracted that I trust will make sense in time. Even to 99% of people who didn't look deeper and go with their gut. Smiley

https://bithomp.com/explorer/r3gHXhK1pwZFG9ESiaosxjufEVQjwGuJUd

So alpha.

Omega ready to pounce, EDD.  Wink
hero member
Activity: 666
Merit: 516
Fuck BlackRock
Many obligations left OTC/abstracted that I trust will make sense in time. Even to 99% of people who didn't look deeper and go with their gut. Smiley

https://bithomp.com/explorer/r3gHXhK1pwZFG9ESiaosxjufEVQjwGuJUd

So alpha.
hero member
Activity: 666
Merit: 516
Fuck BlackRock
Yup I agree this is way too complicated for 99% of users

@realdantreccia How did you deposit dvc into stellar? I can deposit btc etc through the trusted vendors, adding the dvc asset to your homepage can be done easily enough by linking markm's account https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5

But there is no deposit link against markm account for dve like there is for btc, eth etc.

I get that this is trading a dvc token which represents the dvc, is the solution here to either setup my own amount of dvc tokens like markm has and see if stellar will link the two as being the same or to trade off stellar chain with markm dvc for dvc token... or am i missing something here?

Fuzzybear

Hey Fb. I just bought XLM and went right to StellarTerm the last time I bought some DVC tokens from MarkM's issuer account. Then I went from there to trade for interstellar.exchange's Eth tokens using the StellarTerm platform to trade.
legendary
Activity: 1420
Merit: 1010
Found a working direct link to trade the Devcoin token and XLM on Stellar DEX using the StellarTerm website.

Looks like the order books are correct and the issuer is MarkM's account.

https://stellarterm.com/exchange/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5/XLM-native

Is there a simple iOS app for that?  Thanks.  


Nope Tongue Try Safari for iOS

https://twitter.com/Lobstrco (iOS wallet)

Still way too complicated for the 99%. 

Not sure why that’s so hard to grasp for most devs.  Or perhaps that’s the goal.  :/


That's why I'm guinea pigging so hard here...

For instance. Small potatoes but I think I made the first ever sale of the DVC token for interstellar.exchange's ETH token (transaction below):

https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/tx/cbf6381dcacea8acc531d94c42bee1aaa8ce3997b2ab3a6446bd0174ede624ee

You can see that XRP/ETH tokens are swapped on the minute according to the transaction history for the ETH token:

https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/ETH-GCNSGHUCG5VMGLT5RIYYZSO7VQULQKAJ62QA33DBC5PPBSO57LFWVV6P

No luck with PathFinder swaps. Everytime I tried to trade anything issued by markm it said not enough liquidity to swap so I had to go trade directly again. However, since I had little luck with Interstellar.Exchange's swaps I decided to sell my DVC token for ETH token using StellarTerm (link below):

https://stellarterm.com/exchange/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5/ETH-GCNSGHUCG5VMGLT5RIYYZSO7VQULQKAJ62QA33DBC5PPBSO57LFWVV6P

The trade went through easily and quickly. The more websites to exchange on over Stellar, the better.

Here is a picture of the trade details after is successfully went through (via stellar.expert and the ETH tokens transactions list - to give you an idea what happens before and after such trades - not a coincidence, automated responses down the line - I feel like making trades no one has yet done helps. I believe Altilly had a DVC/ETH pair but that was with coins, so here's another path forged):



Yup I agree this is way too complicated for 99% of users

@realdantreccia How did you deposit dvc into stellar? I can deposit btc etc through the trusted vendors, adding the dvc asset to your homepage can be done easily enough by linking markm's account https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5

But there is no deposit link against markm account for dve like there is for btc, eth etc.

I get that this is trading a dvc token which represents the dvc, is the solution here to either setup my own amount of dvc tokens like markm has and see if stellar will link the two as being the same or to trade off stellar chain with markm dvc for dvc token... or am i missing something here?

Fuzzybear
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