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Fuck BlackRock
Found a working direct link to trade the Devcoin token and XLM on Stellar DEX using the StellarTerm website.

Looks like the order books are correct and the issuer is MarkM's account.

https://stellarterm.com/exchange/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5/XLM-native

Is there a simple iOS app for that?  Thanks.  


Nope Tongue Try Safari for iOS

https://twitter.com/Lobstrco (iOS wallet)

Still way too complicated for the 99%. 

Not sure why that’s so hard to grasp for most devs.  Or perhaps that’s the goal.  :/


That's why I'm guinea pigging so hard here...

For instance. Small potatoes but I think I made the first ever sale of the DVC token for interstellar.exchange's ETH token (transaction below):

https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/tx/cbf6381dcacea8acc531d94c42bee1aaa8ce3997b2ab3a6446bd0174ede624ee

You can see that XRP/ETH tokens are swapped on the minute according to the transaction history for the ETH token:

https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/ETH-GCNSGHUCG5VMGLT5RIYYZSO7VQULQKAJ62QA33DBC5PPBSO57LFWVV6P

No luck with PathFinder swaps. Everytime I tried to trade anything issued by markm it said not enough liquidity to swap so I had to go trade directly again. However, since I had little luck with Interstellar.Exchange's swaps I decided to sell my DVC token for ETH token using StellarTerm (link below):

https://stellarterm.com/exchange/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5/ETH-GCNSGHUCG5VMGLT5RIYYZSO7VQULQKAJ62QA33DBC5PPBSO57LFWVV6P

The trade went through easily and quickly. The more websites to exchange on over Stellar, the better.

Here is a picture of the trade details after is successfully went through (via stellar.expert and the ETH tokens transactions list - to give you an idea what happens before and after such trades - not a coincidence, automated responses down the line - I feel like making trades no one has yet done helps. I believe Altilly had a DVC/ETH pair but that was with coins, so here's another path forged):

legendary
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www.ixcoin.net
Found a working direct link to trade the Devcoin token and XLM on Stellar DEX using the StellarTerm website.

Looks like the order books are correct and the issuer is MarkM's account.

https://stellarterm.com/exchange/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5/XLM-native

Is there a simple iOS app for that?  Thanks.  


Nope Tongue Try Safari for iOS

https://twitter.com/Lobstrco (iOS wallet)

Still way too complicated for the 99%. 

Not sure why that’s so hard to grasp for most devs.  Or perhaps that’s the goal.  :/
hero member
Activity: 666
Merit: 516
Fuck BlackRock
Found a working direct link to trade the Devcoin token and XLM on Stellar DEX using the StellarTerm website.

Looks like the order books are correct and the issuer is MarkM's account.

https://stellarterm.com/exchange/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5/XLM-native

Is there a simple iOS app for that?  Thanks.  


Nope Tongue Try Safari for iOS

https://twitter.com/Lobstrco (iOS wallet)
sr. member
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Found a working direct link to trade the Devcoin token and XLM on Stellar DEX using the StellarTerm website.

Looks like the order books are correct and the issuer is MarkM's account.

https://stellarterm.com/exchange/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5/XLM-native

Is there a simple iOS app for that?  Thanks. 


That’s exactly what’s needed. 
legendary
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www.ixcoin.net
Found a working direct link to trade the Devcoin token and XLM on Stellar DEX using the StellarTerm website.

Looks like the order books are correct and the issuer is MarkM's account.

https://stellarterm.com/exchange/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5/XLM-native

Is there a simple iOS app for that?  Thanks. 
hero member
Activity: 666
Merit: 516
Fuck BlackRock
Found a working direct link to trade the Devcoin token and XLM on Stellar DEX using the StellarTerm website.

Looks like the order books are correct and the issuer is MarkM's account.

https://stellarterm.com/exchange/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5/XLM-native
legendary
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www.ixcoin.net

A long time ago I looked into getting logos printed on tshirts, hat, mugs, stickers, keychains etc and would not take much cash investment to produce the actual products and stockpile goods for store once you have designs all sorted and ready.


I got this shirt printed year ago. I don't like graphic tees so I kept it simple.





Somebody also printed a white version.

You ship to the USA? Smiley

Yes, from East bloc with love.
hero member
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Fuck BlackRock
Also there has been no work to get dvc integrated into a multi crypto payment gateway provider. Don't forget they are reviewing all cryptocurrencies like this and payment gateways are a huge step in opening up the coin to non crypto businesses etc. For example https://b2binpay.com/en/cryptocurrencies/coins/

Some work unfinished? Lost?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-ripple-gateway-for-devcoin-alpha-testing-203977
hero member
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Fuck BlackRock

A long time ago I looked into getting logos printed on tshirts, hat, mugs, stickers, keychains etc and would not take much cash investment to produce the actual products and stockpile goods for store once you have designs all sorted and ready.


I got this shirt printed year ago. I don't like graphic tees so I kept it simple.





Somebody also printed a white version.

You ship to the USA? Smiley
sr. member
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Agreed though one reason could be there are no stores accepting dvc because there is no exchange to buy and sell dvc. But they are taking a risk with each coin listing that it could be a scam or worse and damage the exchange itself.  I have seen it in the past where a coins foundation offer an online shop with token items (coffee mugs, hats, stickers etc all with the crypto logo on it and purchase can be done in btc and the crypto thus offering a place to spend. Is there anything stopping dvc setting up and offering such a shop? It was done in the past as an incentive to mine the coins and give you something physical for the electricity bill and speculation for the miner but has more value now as a sign of the community and support behind the coin in the eyes of exchanges and the public.

@FuzzyBear, I though I've been clear but here we go again:

1. "there is no exchange to buy and sell dvc" FALSE. We have Freiexchange to BUY, and Stellar DEX to BUY and SELL. See: https://www.devcoin.org/get-devcoin.html (Click "Buy Devcoins"). There are DVC pairs against BTC, ETH, LTC, XRP, USD and plenty of Galactic Milieu tokens
2. "Is there anything stopping dvc setting up and offering such a shop?" NO. DVC tokens on stellar platform are e-commerce enabled. See shopify stellar integration: https://stellarpay.io/documentation/shopify/shopify-xlm-integration/
3. Devcoin is not just a Bitcoin fork any longer. Everybody, please, get up to date on what you can do with Stellar and DVC tokens

Last but not least, DVC tokens are getting more and more trading volume on our current exchanges: Stellar DEX and Freeiexchange. Market makers are welcome to join the party. Later you can't tell me I didn't let you know early!

Go go Devcoin!

- develCuy
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A long time ago I looked into getting logos printed on tshirts, hat, mugs, stickers, keychains etc and would not take much cash investment to produce the actual products and stockpile goods for store once you have designs all sorted and ready.


I got this shirt printed year ago. I don't like graphic tees so I kept it simple.





Somebody also printed a white version.
legendary
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The info given from Antilly is very detailed, and far more than I expected to see from them. It does two things for me personally:

1) Makes it a lot easier to gauge what they are looking for and what DVC needs to help come back on the map/dominate
2) Builds trust in them since they are clearly doing their research

Now, one part that I found a little backwards is the shop info. One of their negatives is that there aren't many/any stores accepting DVC right now, but part of that reason could just as easily be that it's not as liquid right now and shops of most types have their own expenses (i.e., if I'm selling phones at a 5% markup, I still need to get that 95% from somewhere to pay for the phone and restock. If I can't sell any of the coins on an exchange, I can't viably run a business).

Yes Ranlo that was my take from the feedback from altilly, great to see what dvc needs to do and good sign altilly is good exchange and doing due research into each coin.  

Regarding the stores accepting DVC, I think this is specifically related to the first post on this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dvcdevcoin-official-thread-moderated-233997 with the places listed accepting dvc as payment.. they are all out of date and dead thus that looks bad so this should be cleaned up if possible or lets start new official thread?

Also there has been no work to get dvc integrated into a multi crypto payment gateway provider. Don't forget they are reviewing all cryptocurrencies like this and payment gateways are a huge step in opening up the coin to non crypto businesses etc. For example https://b2binpay.com/en/cryptocurrencies/coins/

Agreed though one reason could be there are no stores accepting dvc because there is no exchange to buy and sell dvc. But they are taking a risk with each coin listing that it could be a scam or worse and damage the exchange itself.  I have seen it in the past where a coins foundation offer an online shop with token items (coffee mugs, hats, stickers etc all with the crypto logo on it and purchase can be done in btc and the crypto thus offering a place to spend. Is there anything stopping dvc setting up and offering such a shop? It was done in the past as an incentive to mine the coins and give you something physical for the electricity bill and speculation for the miner but has more value now as a sign of the community and support behind the coin in the eyes of exchanges and the public.

A long time ago I looked into getting logos printed on tshirts, hat, mugs, stickers, keychains etc and would not take much cash investment to produce the actual products and stockpile goods for store once you have designs all sorted and ready. (Note this was done in the PPC community and they spent far too long and much money redesigning the logo and rebranding and would not recommend) just take the current dvc logo and drop on a sticker and get 100 printed up in various sizes etc.  This also opens the question of does anyone have the dvc official logo in a high res image and various formats (white background, transparent background, one with text devcoin, one with just logo) and these should be in one place available on devtome or devcoin.org for marketing use and such. Would anyone here want to buy something with their dvc? if so what?

Fuzzybear
legendary
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The info given from Antilly is very detailed, and far more than I expected to see from them. It does two things for me personally:

1) Makes it a lot easier to gauge what they are looking for and what DVC needs to help come back on the map/dominate
2) Builds trust in them since they are clearly doing their research

Now, one part that I found a little backwards is the shop info. One of their negatives is that there aren't many/any stores accepting DVC right now, but part of that reason could just as easily be that it's not as liquid right now and shops of most types have their own expenses (i.e., if I'm selling phones at a 5% markup, I still need to get that 95% from somewhere to pay for the phone and restock. If I can't sell any of the coins on an exchange, I can't viably run a business).
sr. member
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That is Devcoin's whitepaper in a very old-style wiki fashion, yet it defines Devcoin very well.

We could also do with a page on the devcoin.org site of the "Team" and their roles etc.

https://www.devtome.com/devcoin_human_resources

And this is our new facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/devcoin

- develCuy

P.S: If the admin of the old facebok page is around, please contact me. We need to merge!
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Is there a whitepaper anywhere for dvc?

Well I think even Litecoin referenced Bitcoin's whitepaper?  
https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

So, just some explanations on how Devcoin differs from Bitcoin should be enough:  

https://github.com/devcoin/core

https://www.devtome.com/devcoin


We could also do with a page on the devcoin.org site of the "Team" and their roles etc.

Yeah just update the relevant info if it's not updated already.  
If above two links don't explain all the differences between those coins, then a standalone devtome page which lists all the differences should be created?
legendary
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Got the feedback from altilly today as to why is was delisted in 2019.

Was told someone from DVC team can put in an official request for it to be listed on altilly and follow their usual listing process. (has been over a year since de-listing) thus could not strike a deal to get them to relist for free.

INFO FROM ALTILLY:

That is great @FuzzyBear! I managed to contact Altilly as well, via support ticket, then via Telegram. After a month we have finally got  Charles Naughton to visit our Telegram channel: https://t.me/Devcoins, this is the conversation:

Quote
Chuck Naughton, [25.07.20 12:09]
My name is Charles Naughton from Altilly Exchange

Chuck Naughton, [25.07.20 12:09]
I have been asked to give you guys another look after DVC was delisted a year ago

develCuy, [25.07.20 12:10]
[DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.8420

Chuck Naughton, [25.07.20 12:11]
We consider BCT  more of an announcement portal but ill check it out.  I have no way to gauge how big your community is on BCT

develCuy, [25.07.20 12:16]
Just seen you shared feedback with FuzzyBear. If you visit the website: devcoin.org, you can find up to date info regarding our community channels, wallets, block explorers and exchanges

The last couple months I updated devcoin.org, so it is now in sync with current information. Also, devtome got a new look and feel. Additionally, I'm always in contact with Coingecko to keep our profile updated: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/devcoin

As you can see, not just my spare efforts, but joint interest and work from the community is finally paying off. Just keep moving on guys!

Go go Devcoin!

- develCuy

Yup so more feedback from them...

basically they worry the size of the community based on members in the social media groups (telegram chat, discord, twitter followers etc) are too low and there is no community here to warrent listing dvc.  

This is mostly because dvc has had devtome and here to keep track of updates etc and there has not been a big social media push to get members to join etc.

If the numbers in the social media groups is correctly reflected from the community here then there is a chance they will consider relisting dvc on altilly.

So community members please sign up, follow, join all the following dvc official channels:

Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/devcoin/
Telegram: https://t.me/Devcoins
Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheDevcoin
Discord: https://discord.io/devcoin
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Devcoin-1384277851835204/

Can we get a breakdown of who controls these also in case any updates are needed or who can make posts and are they still active here? otherwise we might have to open up another official channel or account for something.

Is there a whitepaper anywhere for dvc? @markm did u have anything?

We could also do with a page on the devcoin.org site of the "Team" and their roles etc.

any chance we can update the first post here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dvcdevcoin-official-thread-moderated-233997 as all these links are outdated and no longer active.

Fuzzybear
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Got the feedback from altilly today as to why is was delisted in 2019.

Was told someone from DVC team can put in an official request for it to be listed on altilly and follow their usual listing process. (has been over a year since de-listing) thus could not strike a deal to get them to relist for free.

INFO FROM ALTILLY:

That is great @FuzzyBear! I managed to contact Altilly as well, via support ticket, then via Telegram. After a month we have finally got  Charles Naughton to visit our Telegram channel: https://t.me/Devcoins, this is the conversation:

Quote
Chuck Naughton, [25.07.20 12:09]
My name is Charles Naughton from Altilly Exchange

Chuck Naughton, [25.07.20 12:09]
I have been asked to give you guys another look after DVC was delisted a year ago

develCuy, [25.07.20 12:10]
[DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.8420

Chuck Naughton, [25.07.20 12:11]
We consider BCT  more of an announcement portal but ill check it out.  I have no way to gauge how big your community is on BCT

develCuy, [25.07.20 12:16]
Just seen you shared feedback with FuzzyBear. If you visit the website: devcoin.org, you can find up to date info regarding our community channels, wallets, block explorers and exchanges

The last couple months I updated devcoin.org, so it is now in sync with current information. Also, devtome got a new look and feel. Additionally, I'm always in contact with Coingecko to keep our profile updated: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/devcoin

As you can see, not just my spare efforts, but joint interest and work from the community is finally paying off. Just keep moving on guys!

Go go Devcoin!

- develCuy
legendary
Activity: 1420
Merit: 1010
Got the feedback from altilly today as to why is was delisted in 2019.

Was told someone from DVC team can put in an official request for it to be listed on altilly and follow their usual listing process. (has been over a year since de-listing) thus could not strike a deal to get them to relist for free.

INFO FROM ALTILLY:

Information:
Project name: Devcoin
Ticker: DVC
Blockchain/algorithm: Own blockchain / SHA-256
Coin/token: Coin
Circulating supply: 18,073,257,500 DVC
Premine: N/A
Explorer/contract: https://node1.devcoin.cloud/
Token/ asset information: https://www.altilly.com/asset/DVC
Comment: None of the marketplaces listed in Bitcointalk thread accept DVC, they do not exist
anymore or DVC value is shown as 0$ - All markets listed currently inactive. (From 2013.
/2014.)
No marketplaces that accept DVC listed on the website.
Website: http://devcoin.org/index.html
Github (or similar): https://github.com/devcoin/core
Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-cannacoin-ccn-pow-posv-no-premine-no-ipo-740903
Comment: Github repositories inactive 8 months/10 months/5 years.
Bitcointalk thread seems like only active social channel, but couldn’t find recent talk
about development, only discussions related to crypto taxes and exchanges.

Evaluation:
Social: - FAILED
• Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/devcoin/ – 299 members.
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/Devtome – 1895 followers.
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Devcoin-1384277851835204/ – 60 followers.
Comment: Reddit– Inactive for a minimum of 8 months, most likely 2-3 years.
Twitter –Inactive since 25th April 2016.
Facebook – Inactive since 18th March 2014.
Whitepaper: - FAILED
• Whitepaper available: No
Team: - FAILED
• Team information available: No

Trade volume was undecided at the time of review. It was the rest of the evaluation that caused it to be delisted.

So who controls the social media sites for devcoin? Facebook? twitter? reddit?
Was there not a whitepaper for devcoin?

Fuzzybear
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Devcoin could probably get listed for free on Fides Exchange. Lots of dead shitcoins have got that deal.

It would be mutual beneficial for both. Fides gets new customers and promotion through devcoin twitter/bitcointalk/medium channels. And devcoin gets a new ltc/dvc market pair.


https://fidesexchange.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/47001120148-listing-request-form



But you will agree - is it just brilliant? Grin
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Fuck BlackRock
Maybe DVC will reflect an accurate price once Block 0 reward can be redeemed. They're "satoshi's" coins after all.
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