Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 23. (Read 1059157 times)

Yup so more feedback from them...

basically they worry the size of the community based on members in the social media groups (telegram chat, discord, twitter followers etc) are too low and there is no community here to warrent listing dvc.  

This is mostly because dvc has had devtome and here to keep track of updates etc and there has not been a big social media push to get members to join etc.

If the numbers in the social media groups is correctly reflected from the community here then there is a chance they will consider relisting dvc on altilly.

So community members please sign up, follow, join all the following dvc official channels:

Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/devcoin/
Telegram: https://t.me/Devcoins
Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheDevcoin
Discord: https://discord.io/devcoin
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Devcoin-1384277851835204/

Can we get a breakdown of who controls these also in case any updates are needed or who can make posts and are they still active here? otherwise we might have to open up another official channel or account for something.

Is there a whitepaper anywhere for dvc? @markm did u have anything?

We could also do with a page on the devcoin.org site of the "Team" and their roles etc.

any chance we can update the first post here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dvcdevcoin-official-thread-moderated-233997 as all these links are outdated and no longer active.

Fuzzybear

That is great @FuzzyBear! I managed to contact Altilly as well, via support ticket, then via Telegram. After a month we have finally got  Charles Naughton to visit our Telegram channel: https://t.me/Devcoins, this is the conversation:


The last couple months I updated devcoin.org, so it is now in sync with current information. Also, devtome got a new look and feel. Additionally, I'm always in contact with Coingecko to keep our profile updated: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/devcoin

As you can see, not just my spare efforts, but joint interest and work from the community is finally paying off. Just keep moving on guys!

Go go Devcoin!

- develCuy

Got the feedback from altilly today as to why is was delisted in 2019.

Was told someone from DVC team can put in an official request for it to be listed on altilly and follow their usual listing process. (has been over a year since de-listing) thus could not strike a deal to get them to relist for free.

INFO FROM ALTILLY:

Information:
Project name: Devcoin
Ticker: DVC
Blockchain/algorithm: Own blockchain / SHA-256
Coin/token: Coin
Circulating supply: 18,073,257,500 DVC
Premine: N/A
Explorer/contract: https://node1.devcoin.cloud/
Token/ asset information: https://www.altilly.com/asset/DVC
Comment: None of the marketplaces listed in Bitcointalk thread accept DVC, they do not exist
anymore or DVC value is shown as 0$ - All markets listed currently inactive. (From 2013.
/2014.)
No marketplaces that accept DVC listed on the website.
Website: http://devcoin.org/index.html
Github (or similar): https://github.com/devcoin/core
Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-cannacoin-ccn-pow-posv-no-premine-no-ipo-740903
Comment: Github repositories inactive 8 months/10 months/5 years.
Bitcointalk thread seems like only active social channel, but couldn’t find recent talk
about development, only discussions related to crypto taxes and exchanges.

Evaluation:
Social: - FAILED
• Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/devcoin/ – 299 members.
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/Devtome – 1895 followers.
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Devcoin-1384277851835204/ – 60 followers.
Comment: Reddit– Inactive for a minimum of 8 months, most likely 2-3 years.
Twitter –Inactive since 25th April 2016.
Facebook – Inactive since 18th March 2014.
Whitepaper: - FAILED
• Whitepaper available: No
Team: - FAILED
• Team information available: No

Trade volume was undecided at the time of review. It was the rest of the evaluation that caused it to be delisted.

So who controls the social media sites for devcoin? Facebook? twitter? reddit?
Was there not a whitepaper for devcoin?

Fuzzybear

But you will agree - is it just brilliant?

Maybe DVC will reflect an accurate price once Block 0 reward can be redeemed. They're "satoshi's" coins after all.

Wrong thread. IXC is the other way.

We can’t afford those listing fees.  Gotta try freiexchange or some free exchanges which are probably high risk.

To put things into perspective...


LTC  marketcap  - $2,920,128,326
XLM marketcap  - $2,056,064,586
DVC marketcap  -        $2,025,106  

(using  `1 BTC = ~$9,513`, `1 DVC = 1 Sat` price and 21,286,112,500 total devcoins in circulation)

Trading only using DVC/BTC pair would leave us with huge spread even if the price goes x10.  
So there is a need for other market pairs, such as XLM/DVC. Fortunately, it's already available on the Stellar network, but perhaps somebody would like to see such pairs on the other exchanges.  

Introducing more than one such pair on "fly-by-night" exchanges might be a "disservice" as you say, but only if there is a low volume, so that manually going through various calculations might disincentivize a potential buyer, because nobody can instantly calculate in their head whether for example LTC/DVC matches XLM/DVC denominated in USD. Having high volume on all the relevant pairs would increase trust in market prices being "fair", so no need to manually check every time if the prices match, or whether one pair offers bargains or whatever.
With that regard, Stellar seems to be more convenient because of pathfinding, so volume doesn't matter.  

Since Stellar network uses XLM as native currency, it might be better for a fly-by-night exchange to provide XLM/DVC pairing, than the LTC/DVC pair, because XLM can be used for exchanging on Stellar, and not only "trading into/out of it" for the sake of getting DVC.

The biggest problem with smaller exchanges in my opinion is that they have less eyes. People that would trade DVC may not want to have to sign up to a new exchange just to buy it. I know this is something I dealt with in the past (I signed up to a couple exchanges solely for the purpose of trading -- both buying and selling to help the market -- DVC).

I also question whether or not an exchange that just matches it up with LTC would be a disservice since it creates a virtual wall there. Instead of "Wow, this is worth x BTC" it becomes "Eh, it's worth x LTC but I don't really want to trade into/out of LTC."

Both are my personal opinions on the matter, just wanted to toss them out there.

@shtako, thanks for letting us know about Fides. Let me wear my Investor Administrator hat for a sec:

1. The listing request form is currently found here
2. Listing Fee is 0.25 BTC
3. BTC/BTC Fork – Must comply with Bitcoin Core API > 0.10 (Devcoin is 0.8 )
4. Principle/Developer [...] must be available and reply to any queries from the exchange within 24 hours

I think that this is a good candidate but we need to do some homework before. Also, I think that exchanges supporting XLM tokens are better suited for Devcoin right now, because we don't need to do any software update and all technical issues are already handled by the people running the Stellar network.

Last but not least, we are already listed on Freiexchange with the BTC/DVC pair. Freiexchange has zero fees for trading, they only charge very reasonable fees for withdrawals. Also, the DVC token is getting more and more trading volume in the Stellar DEX: https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5, where we can trade for ETH, LTC, XRP, XLM, CENTUS, TFC, IXC and a wealth of Galactic Millieu tokens! We could add more exchanges, but the more I talk with exchanges, the more I tend to think that it is better strategy to first heat up our existing markets.

Go go Devcoin!

- develCuy

Amen.

Go go Devcoin!

- develCuy

Agree. But if they list dead shitcoins they should definitely list devcoin. 

Don't you want to buy some more cheap coins in a ltc/dvc market?

(Someone who got all the info they need have to fill out the application.)

I found the campaigns here https://add-ons.wesnoth.org/1.12/ (CTRL+F "mark m")  

It seems that newer Wesnoth releases do not support your 1.12 versions? Or I perhaps failed to set them up manually.  

On linux, v1.12 can be installed simply with the following command    
And to launch the game

Fortunately, v1.12 will still try and fetch add-ons from the server. Then the add-ons (e.g. campaigns, scenarios...) can be simply installed from within the game using UI. (just use "mark m" as a search filter to list relevant add-ons)  
Also there are some Android version of the Battle for Wesnoth game (Play Store lists two), but not sure which game versions, both 1.12 and 1.14 maybe?

Btw, these campaigns are basically a story telling, there is no "gameplay", so anybody can install it and try them.  

---

These rumors are quite old:  


Is there an updated version of the campaign, or maybe they rely on saved games from the other 3 campaigns? I didn't look into it too much because it seems that even changing the difficulty would override the saved-game files.  

I wanted to see if I could find the earliest documents that mention Japanese nation inhabiting "The planet known as B29", a home planet of Brits, closely tied to Canadian C29, which I presume have the same "leader".
If Japanese history was documented pre-2008, then I suppose rumors might be true. The oldest such documentation I found was 2010, but maybe I missed something.

Quotes from scenario:  

It's been 9 years to the day since Block 0. It's hardly a dead shitcoin. Maybe just undervalued abstract coin.

Opened up my debug.log file today for Devcoin - Wallet (v0.8.5.1-g25a7b46-beta) for Windows (32-bit) through the GUI.


"socket send error 10038", been around since Hal and Satoshi were attaching and sharing original stripped bitcoin EXE's, tools, code, and debug files in attachments (for hal gmail attachments - which in the US and UK were later integrated with Google Wallet to attach "money" and send for free if one had a balance in their Google Wallet prepaid account).

Not shockingly these emails were then later compiled into a pdf (hash collision sha1 anyone?) and put online at a wsj subdomain. Previously "private" information exposed, double spent, who knows. But  I know one thing, the original bitcoin lives on through devcoin for a reason.

https://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/finneynakamotoemails.pdf


As of right now, restarting my GUI wallet for Devcoin, I have 3 connections myself.

Happy 9th birthday since your bitcoin identical genesis, DVC.

https://block.d.evco.in/chain/Devcoin?hi=0
https://block.d.evco.in/block/0000000062558fec003bcbf29e915cddfc34fa257dc87573f28e4520d1c7c11e


Abe's a pretty "honest chain"...

Raw tx from that block same pubkey gets 50 COIN block reward as BTC 0...

https://block.d.evco.in/rawtx/e61339a40aa4e90e983fe0d64cf09eed5fa1e6eac227b6761f06ac7af1929baf


https://steemit.com/base64/@novacadian/qctb6v]]https://steemit.com/base64/@novacadian/qctb6v



Whatever you are. The value is in the people on the network and their longevity.

Can always rename the "Devcoin" file in my %APPDATA%/Devcoin folder. Satoshi had some similar workarounds in the early days. We're still in beta for a reason. Playing catch up.

Devcoin could probably get listed for free on Fides Exchange. Lots of dead shitcoins have got that deal.

It would be mutual beneficial for both. Fides gets new customers and promotion through devcoin twitter/bitcointalk/medium channels. And devcoin gets a new ltc/dvc market pair.


https://fidesexchange.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/47001120148-listing-request-form

Can't hurt to have a little of both

No, that's fine. I was mistaking the tokens with the coins but it's alright. I think I'm gonna buy and hold more DVC tokens! Thank you Dan!

I'm sorry. I don't really know if that's what you were  asking.

Oh I see, I think I understand, thank you!

If you're looking to deposit and obtain DVC you have to put in XLM and then trade for the DVC token. If you want to take out DVC token as DVC blockchain coins you have to send markm the DVC token to his Stellar address and then he will coordinate with you to send blockchain coin DVC to your DVC wallet.

Are you saying you want to withdraw the DVC token from interstellar? If you use stellar the keys to your interstellar account should be there so you just put your key in whatever stellar wallet you want (I tested mine on keybase's iOS app which has a stellar wallet inside and it worked) and your DVC token balance should show in that wallet.

Also, off topic but relevant. Ever since Abe's been back (on new address paths) online the Devcoin 0 block shows what I always knew since my debug.log showed it long ago. But I didn't know the coins went to the same legacy address as BTC block 0. Now that is something.

https://block.d.evco.in/block/0000000062558fec003bcbf29e915cddfc34fa257dc87573f28e4520d1c7c11e