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legendary
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November 12, 2013, 06:37:08 PM
Hi Guys,

Since right now the writers are being paid 90% generation I propose that we add in a bounty share funded by the generation. I thought this was the original purpose of the coin to fund developers and writing was just a result of devtome which was the result of a bounty completed by a developer? How did devtome end up hijacking the entire 90% of the coin generation? Anyways what makes sense is if there is incentive to do some bounties because that's what will bring about results. Devtome is a great project and as more people write the hope is that ad revenue will fully support the writers. Since it is on training-wheels still it needs some percentage of the coins being minted to still bring in more people to write. The original intent was that devtome would support itself and bounties would be an going process. I propose we stick to the plan and taper off the 90% of the writers earnings to something more reasonable. The bounty program is just as important if not more important to the success of the project than devtome (which is a single bounty project). Since training-wheels are still needed I propose 45% of the generation goes to miners and 45% goes to the bounty wallet (like a piggy bank) such that when it gets big enough there is enough incentive for it to be claimed to finish new projects.

I'm not sure how this was all lost and why the full generation has been going to devtome... seems like this was changed somewhere along the lines when devtome was introduced, but I propose we get back to a viable economic strategy here. Unless we want to be called devtomeCoin.

Admins/Developers need to vote yes or no and we can tally the results and publish them. Maybe with their vote they can include a short explanation for their vote.

Jag

Maybe we could pay code by the 1k lines, and art per 1k pixels, and diversify the payout scheme.  (CodeTome.com, ArtTome.com)

I am in favor of an increased miner subsidy!  Smiley
Sorry I edited it, but miners getting 10% is fine since we are merge mined we don't have a problem with the hash rate.

The proposal is to reduce the writers pay to 45% of the 90% that is going to "developers". As bounties complete the value of the coin will rise giving more incentive to write and slowly reduce the 45% to use the ad revenue that should grow and help make devtome self sufficient. There writers payout percentage should be based on a metric and should reduce as the ad revenue increases. This should not be a set 45% but a max of 45% with no ad revenue. If there is any revenue the payout percentage decreases the mining training wheels fund. As revenue from ads increases the writers earn more drawing in more writers.

The method of determining value is probably irrelevant because as the value decreases the bounty becomes less appealing. A piggy bank approach may offer a quicker way for bounties to be taken up. We would simply have to make them more visible to people through marketing ie add to workforcrypto.com and other places.. Admins should be doing this or set up a bounty to do this. Imagine a bounty set up when price was at 200 sat and paid per 1k lines but that bounty is still around today? You have to recreate that bounty to update based on todays value... why not let the piggy bank do the job for you and let the market decide what the correct value is for the bounty in terms of cost in DVC.
legendary
Activity: 1008
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November 12, 2013, 06:30:07 PM
Hi Guys,

Since right now the writers are being paid 90% generation I propose that we add in a bounty share funded by the generation. I thought this was the original purpose of the coin to fund developers and writing was just a result of devtome which was the result of a bounty completed by a developer? How did devtome end up hijacking the entire 90% of the coin generation? Anyways what makes sense is if there is incentive to do some bounties because that's what will bring about results. Devtome is a great project and as more people write the hope is that ad revenue will fully support the writers. Since it is on training-wheels still it needs some percentage of the coins being minted to still bring in more people to write. The original intent was that devtome would support itself and bounties would be an going process. I propose we stick to the plan and taper off the 90% of the writers earnings to something more reasonable. The bounty program is just as important if not more important to the success of the project than devtome (which is a single bounty project). Since training-wheels are still needed I propose 45% of the generation goes to miners and 45% goes to the bounty wallet (like a piggy bank) such that when it gets big enough there is enough incentive for it to be claimed to finish new projects.

I'm not sure how this was all lost and why the full generation has been going to devtome... seems like this was changed somewhere along the lines when devtome was introduced, but I propose we get back to a viable economic strategy here. Unless we want to be called devtomeCoin.

Admins/Developers need to vote yes or no and we can tally the results and publish them. Maybe with their vote they can include a short explanation for their vote.

Jag

Maybe we could pay code by the 1k lines, and art per 1k pixels, and diversify the payout scheme.  (CodeTome.com, ArtTome.com)

I am in favor of an increased miner subsidy!  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
November 12, 2013, 06:22:20 PM
Hi Guys,

Since right now the writers are being paid 90% generation I propose that we add in a bounty share funded by the generation. I thought this was the original purpose of the coin to fund developers and writing was just a result of devtome which was the result of a bounty completed by a developer? How did devtome end up hijacking the entire 90% of the coin generation? Anyways what makes sense is if there is incentive to do some bounties because that's what will bring about results. Devtome is a great project and as more people write the hope is that ad revenue will fully support the writers. Since it is on training-wheels still it needs some percentage of the coins being minted to still bring in more people to write. The original intent was that devtome would support itself and bounties would be an going process. I propose we stick to the plan and taper off the 90% of the writers earnings to something more reasonable. The bounty program is just as important if not more important to the success of the project than devtome (which is a single bounty project). Since training-wheels are still needed I propose 45% of the generation goes to writers and 45% goes to the bounty wallet (like a piggy bank) such that when it gets big enough there is enough incentive for it to be claimed to finish new projects.

I'm not sure how this was all lost and why the full generation has been going to devtome... seems like this was changed somewhere along the lines when devtome was introduced, but I propose we get back to a viable economic strategy here. Unless we want to be called devtomeCoin.

Admins/Developers need to vote yes or no and we can tally the results and publish them. Maybe with their vote they can include a short explanation for their vote.

Jag
legendary
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November 12, 2013, 06:08:09 PM
Mine might be ancient, but it is unchanged since whenever partly because it has been working 24/7, for example on dvcstable01 and dvcstable02, ever since then. And run fine on other boxes too from time to time.

Only claim I have seen of it crashing was recent hearsay from someone claiming that RealSolid had claimed it crashes.

I also had the impression RealSolid might have been hacking at it and might not have been using my working version (*) too.

So thus far I haven't really seen much need for any "fixes".

Other of course than, like all the merged mined coins, a full upgrade based on the latest I0Coin to get all the RAM-hog fixes.

-MarkM-

(*) http://sourceforge.net/projects/galacticmilieu/files/  aka  https://github.com/knotwork
legendary
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November 12, 2013, 06:00:57 PM
I lost track long ago of what all the different versions were trying to do.

Someone sent me what was supposedly a patch to put some images in place and it was patching a totally different directory structure than the repo it was supposed to be patching.

I use what I have on my github and sourceforge, they work, daemons have no icons anyway so I don't know or even care what icons they have, certainly not if the entire directory structure has to be changed around to no longer match the normal bitcoin and most other coin repos in order to get some different icon into place.

They might even have icons as I recall much longer ago someone just sent identically named images to what coins already use for the standard images, that merely happened to look different visually without needing any code or filename changes to use them. Though maybe that was some other coin than devcoin if it is so important that devcoin's icons be moved around to some different directory structure.

Another in-progress version was aiming at depending on some fancy custom-nameserver based seeding system requiring a custom seeder daemon / nameserver service that didn't actually exist yet, I don't know if they even yet got such a seeder daemon set up let alone a few of them for redundancy so the code I use sticks with just knowing some hostnames to try to connect to so it won't be dependent on the custom nameservice thing that we don't actually seem to have. And retains the use of IRC too.

-MarkM-


Yea, this is what I found, too, when searching. It's kind of a clusterfuck...
legendary
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November 12, 2013, 05:24:04 PM
I lost track long ago of what all the different versions were trying to do.

Someone sent me what was supposedly a patch to put some images in place and it was patching a totally different directory structure than the repo it was supposed to be patching.

I use what I have on my github and sourceforge, they work, daemons have no icons anyway so I don't know or even care what icons they have, certainly not if the entire directory structure has to be changed around to no longer match the normal bitcoin and most other coin repos in order to get some different icon into place.

They might even have icons as I recall much longer ago someone just sent identically named images to what coins already use for the standard images, that merely happened to look different visually without needing any code or filename changes to use them. Though maybe that was some other coin than devcoin if it is so important that devcoin's icons be moved around to some different directory structure.

Another in-progress version was aiming at depending on some fancy custom-nameserver based seeding system requiring a custom seeder daemon / nameserver service that didn't actually exist yet, I don't know if they even yet got such a seeder daemon set up let alone a few of them for redundancy so the code I use sticks with just knowing some hostnames to try to connect to so it won't be dependent on the custom nameservice thing that we don't actually seem to have. And retains the use of IRC too.

-MarkM-
legendary
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November 12, 2013, 05:18:29 PM
We are ready to add Devcoin as soon as we get the current source, they seem to all be a mess right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZfPtu1K0hg

(Yes, I know it says DEV instead of DVC, we did it on purpose)

git://gitorious.org/devcoin/devcoin.git isn't the right source? That seems to have updates from Aug 2013.

Also pretty weird that no tags were created when we had stable builds that were unit tested and verified? There is only a master branch. I would assume any code checked in the master branch should work and is buildable.

Where is UnthinkingBit? He seems to be getting paid but he doesn't read this thread? Why am I the one giving this answer when I'm not even an admin?

Thanks, we will give it a shot in the next couple days and see if it works. I only ask because our searches came up with a whole lot of outdated results and wanted to get the real one straight from the thread. No issues with any of the other coins we've added, so I know we are doing it right. If that's the wrong one, someone please give us the real one...sick of it not working  Sad

I appreciate you linking it

That's the one that linked from http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin so I'm pretty sure its the official source code, please try to build devcoind and see if it works.  Are you using FreeBSD, Linux, or Mac or Windows as your server? The devcoin daemon's are available for download for supported architectures at that link. The source's seem to be out of date based on the Windows source. They probably need to be synced up but I'm not sure why you need to recompile a daemon if your architecture is supported already and you can just download the daemon from devtome?

We build all the clients and daemons ourselves, but if it doesn't work again, maybe we will try downloading one of the daemons. Thanks again
legendary
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November 12, 2013, 05:16:01 PM
We are ready to add Devcoin as soon as we get the current source, they seem to all be a mess right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZfPtu1K0hg

(Yes, I know it says DEV instead of DVC, we did it on purpose)

git://gitorious.org/devcoin/devcoin.git isn't the right source? That seems to have updates from Aug 2013.

Also pretty weird that no tags were created when we had stable builds that were unit tested and verified? There is only a master branch. I would assume any code checked in the master branch should work and is buildable.

Where is UnthinkingBit? He seems to be getting paid but he doesn't read this thread? Why am I the one giving this answer when I'm not even an admin?

Thanks, we will give it a shot in the next couple days and see if it works. I only ask because our searches came up with a whole lot of outdated results and wanted to get the real one straight from the thread. No issues with any of the other coins we've added, so I know we are doing it right. If that's the wrong one, someone please give us the real one...sick of it not working  Sad

I appreciate you linking it

That's the one that linked from http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin so I'm pretty sure its the official source code, please try to build devcoind and see if it works.  Are you using FreeBSD, Linux, or Mac or Windows as your server? The devcoin daemon's are available for download for supported architectures at that link. The source's seem to be out of date based on the Windows source. They probably need to be synced up but I'm not sure why you need to recompile a daemon if your architecture is supported already and you can just download the daemon from devtome?
legendary
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November 12, 2013, 05:10:33 PM
We are ready to add Devcoin as soon as we get the current source, they seem to all be a mess right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZfPtu1K0hg

(Yes, I know it says DEV instead of DVC, we did it on purpose)

git://gitorious.org/devcoin/devcoin.git isn't the right source? That seems to have updates from Aug 2013.

Also pretty weird that no tags were created when we had stable builds that were unit tested and verified? There is only a master branch. I would assume any code checked in the master branch should work and is buildable.

Where is UnthinkingBit? He seems to be getting paid but he doesn't read this thread? Why am I the one giving this answer when I'm not even an admin?

Thanks, we will give it a shot in the next couple days and see if it works. I only ask because our searches came up with a whole lot of outdated results and wanted to get the real one straight from the thread. No issues with any of the other coins we've added, so I know we are doing it right. If that's the wrong one, someone please give us the real one...sick of it not working  Sad

I appreciate you linking it
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
November 12, 2013, 04:53:13 PM
We are ready to add Devcoin as soon as we get the current source, they seem to all be a mess right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZfPtu1K0hg

(Yes, I know it says DEV instead of DVC, we did it on purpose)

git://gitorious.org/devcoin/devcoin.git isn't the right source? That seems to have updates from Aug 2013.

Also pretty weird that no tags were created when we had stable builds that were unit tested and verified? There is only a master branch. I would assume any code checked in the master branch should work and is buildable.

Where is UnthinkingBit? He seems to be getting paid but he doesn't read this thread? Why am I the one giving this answer when I'm not even an admin?
legendary
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November 12, 2013, 04:45:29 PM
We are ready to add Devcoin as soon as we get the current source, they seem to all be a mess right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZfPtu1K0hg

(Yes, I know it says DEV instead of DVC, we did it on purpose)
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
November 12, 2013, 04:44:29 PM
Can someone link me the working source? We are trying to build the daemon for WorkForCrypto.com but all the sources we have found are shit
bump. Did anyone get back to them on this - I didn't think there was a problem with the daemons?

I think we should have an admin that tracks these types of issues and resolves them publicly releasing information via some kind of issue tracking software like Jira. This can be linked to the Git repository aswell so we can track what issues were fixed in what version of the code.
newbie
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November 12, 2013, 04:41:27 PM
Hello,
Please somebody helps me how to post my first article in devtome.com?? I am ready with the part of setting my account and i already have one article to post there, but it will be very nice if someone helps me with the steps to post it. Thank you very much
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsM9BKo4lAk
hero member
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November 12, 2013, 04:27:25 PM
Can someone link me the working source? We are trying to build the daemon for WorkForCrypto.com but all the sources we have found are shit
bump. Did anyone get back to them on this - I didn't think there was a problem with the daemons?
member
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November 12, 2013, 02:26:08 PM
guys, also check from time to time on twitter the hashtag #devcoin, and if you will, tweet some informative stuff. twitter is loaded with #bitcoin #litecoin.
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legendary
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November 12, 2013, 02:03:38 PM

Do you have an account? SHould add dvc.rapidballs.eu (devcoin lotto)
legendary
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November 12, 2013, 01:55:24 PM
I don't exactly know, who this questionarry is for, ideally btcchina itself
http://www.sojump.com/jq/2849717.aspx

here is the english translation
http://translate.google.hu/translate?hl=hu&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sojump.com%2Fjq%2F2849717.aspx

fill it out, and fill in at question 7. 'other': add DVC Smiley  and post this on other DVC channels!

Please also submit ticket to btc-e.com to RE-add dvc again by choosing trade api support ticket:

https://hdbtce.kayako.com/Tickets/Submit/RenderForm
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
November 12, 2013, 10:31:02 AM
Hello,
Here it is the link of the article i have posted.
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:gondels
Am i doing it right? Please help, i really want to start writing for devcoins Smiley

No, you have pasted the actual text of your article to your user-page.

You need to set up your user-age with sections in which you will put links to your articles, the links being in the collated section or the original section.

The articles themselves go in the main part of the wiki as pages of their own.

-MarkM-


Sorry for for the question, but is this done right already or i am missing something.
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:gondels#original
Thank you!

Look at other people's user-pages for examples, like mine for example: http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:knotwork

Use the edit option to see the actual wiki-code used. You made yours like an external link. You need to make it an internal link, and furthermore that needs something special, a colon I think, to make sure it points over to the main wiki instead of assuming you mean the link to stay inside only the user-pages section. You also need the text saying it is original, that the robot (script) presumably looks for on each line .

-MarkM-
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