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November 13, 2013, 07:46:23 PM
Hi Guys,

Since right now the writers are being paid 90% generation I propose that we add in a bounty share funded by the generation. I thought this was the original purpose of the coin to fund developers and writing was just a result of devtome which was the result of a bounty completed by a developer? How did devtome end up hijacking the entire 90% of the coin generation? Anyways what makes sense is if there is incentive to do some bounties because that's what will bring about results. Devtome is a great project and as more people write the hope is that ad revenue will fully support the writers. Since it is on training-wheels still it needs some percentage of the coins being minted to still bring in more people to write. The original intent was that devtome would support itself and bounties would be an going process. I propose we stick to the plan and taper off the 90% of the writers earnings to something more reasonable. The bounty program is just as important if not more important to the success of the project than devtome (which is a single bounty project). Since training-wheels are still needed I propose 45% of the generation goes to writers and 45% goes to the bounty wallet (like a piggy bank) such that when it gets big enough there is enough incentive for it to be claimed to finish new projects.

I'm not sure how this was all lost and why the full generation has been going to devtome... seems like this was changed somewhere along the lines when devtome was introduced, but I propose we get back to a viable economic strategy here. Unless we want to be called devtomeCoin.

Admins/Developers need to vote yes or no and we can tally the results and publish them. Maybe with their vote they can include a short explanation for their vote.

Jag

I agree with the gist of this post, I think we should consider rearranging the shares and reallocating and vote yes.
hero member
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November 13, 2013, 04:14:50 PM
Wow. I'm surprised anyone could make a metal printer for that price. It's not a pure metal printer, because you have to burn off the binder in a kiln, but it's less work than the lost wax process, and a big step forward.

I could not find their email address, if someone can contact them and get them to post a devcoin address, I'll send them 6 million devcoins (currently around 500$) to start. In the article they mention they're using open source software, but they don't say if the printer design is open source. If it is, then we'll give them a big bounty in generation shares and I'll give them more of my own devcoins.

Note: An alternate way would be for someone to contribute a 1,000$ through their funding page:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/minimetalmaker-a-small-3d-printer-that-fabricates-with-precious-metal-clay/contributions/new?perk_amt=1000&perk_id=1498954

with their devcoin address in their name. Devcoins would be sent to that address, and that person would get an assembled MiniMetalMaker in Sep 2014, according to their posted schedule.
http://minimetalmaker.com/contact
no email, but fb/twitter/funding platform contact links
hero member
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November 13, 2013, 03:51:09 PM
Less than $1000 for a 3D printer that prints metal: http://gigaom.com/2013/11/12/meet-the-mini-metal-maker-a-basic-sub-1000-3d-printer-that-prints-metal/

One of our goals was 3D printing metal wasn't it?

-MarkM-


That's amazing.

Wow. I'm surprised anyone could make a metal printer for that price. It's not a pure metal printer, because you have to burn off the binder in a kiln, but it's less work than the lost wax process, and a big step forward.

I could not find their email address, if someone can contact them and get them to post a devcoin address, I'll send them 6 million devcoins (currently around 500$) to start. In the article they mention they're using open source software, but they don't say if the printer design is open source. If it is, then we'll give them a big bounty in generation shares and I'll give them more of my own devcoins.

Note: An alternate way would be for someone to contribute a 1,000$ through their funding page:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/minimetalmaker-a-small-3d-printer-that-fabricates-with-precious-metal-clay/contributions/new?perk_amt=1000&perk_id=1498954

with their devcoin address in their name. Devcoins would be sent to that address, and that person would get an assembled MiniMetalMaker in Sep 2014, according to their posted schedule.
newbie
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November 13, 2013, 01:15:13 PM
Less than $1000 for a 3D printer that prints metal: http://gigaom.com/2013/11/12/meet-the-mini-metal-maker-a-basic-sub-1000-3d-printer-that-prints-metal/

One of our goals was 3D printing metal wasn't it?

-MarkM-


That's amazing.
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November 13, 2013, 12:57:39 PM
All you need is a daemon to do transactions. The GUI is just to make it easier for people to use
legendary
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November 13, 2013, 12:34:09 PM
The GUI is spaghetti-code-entwined into the daemon.

Thus if you use the GUI, you just tell it to also act as a server, by setting server=1 in config or --server on commandline or something like that.

The daemon you don't need to tell it to act as a server, as that is all it does, it lacks all the spaghetti-code monstrousness of the interwined GUI-code.

It would have been lovely if Satoshi had coded a GUI as a totally distinct separate thing from the actual back end, but he didn't and trying to dis-entangle them is hard enough that doubtless some folk figured he actually had to entwine them to get the GUI to work nicely since a GUI that constantly knows the exact state of the back end has certain advantages. A mess of callbacks would be needed otherwise, or a whole lot of polling, and so on.

So basically you either run the GUI version or the daemon version. To get the RPC calls when running the GUI you tell the GUI you want server mode enabled, which basically means provide what the daemon does as well as providing the GUI.

The daemon also has a mode in which it merely acts as a communications interface to talk to the resident copy of the daemon. That is maybe confusing if you are used to having a separate control program to talk to your daemons. Apparently there is even now some talk about making that separation in bitcoin, so you'd run bitcoind and it'd go resident, then use bitcoinctl or ctlbitcoind or some such to talk to it. But right now e.g. devcoind is also its own control/communications program. Probably it would equally well talk to the GUI's server mode, so if you wanted from the commandline, a script etc to ask the GUI, that is in server mode, some info you'd go "devcoind getinfo" just like you would to ask the resident daemon some info.

-MarkM-

Does the daemon include a wallet? If so Id say to just usr resident version of the daemon and not gui.. making guis are hard to do properly so I dont hate satoshi for creating loosely coupled code but in genetal you want to keep your data layer stateless so Id rather use a headless server on an exchange if wallet functionality exists.
legendary
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November 13, 2013, 11:30:49 AM
The GUI is spaghetti-code-entwined into the daemon.

Thus if you use the GUI, you just tell it to also act as a server, by setting server=1 in config or --server on commandline or something like that.

The daemon you don't need to tell it to act as a server, as that is all it does, it lacks all the spaghetti-code monstrousness of the interwined GUI-code.

It would have been lovely if Satoshi had coded a GUI as a totally distinct separate thing from the actual back end, but he didn't and trying to dis-entangle them is hard enough that doubtless some folk figured he actually had to entwine them to get the GUI to work nicely since a GUI that constantly knows the exact state of the back end has certain advantages. A mess of callbacks would be needed otherwise, or a whole lot of polling, and so on.

So basically you either run the GUI version or the daemon version. To get the RPC calls when running the GUI you tell the GUI you want server mode enabled, which basically means provide what the daemon does as well as providing the GUI.

The daemon also has a mode in which it merely acts as a communications interface to talk to the resident copy of the daemon. That is maybe confusing if you are used to having a separate control program to talk to your daemons. Apparently there is even now some talk about making that separation in bitcoin, so you'd run bitcoind and it'd go resident, then use bitcoinctl or ctlbitcoind or some such to talk to it. But right now e.g. devcoind is also its own control/communications program. Probably it would equally well talk to the GUI's server mode, so if you wanted from the commandline, a script etc to ask the GUI, that is in server mode, some info you'd go "devcoind getinfo" just like you would to ask the resident daemon some info.

-MarkM-
legendary
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November 13, 2013, 11:06:21 AM
Certainly it could take hours. Quite a few hours.

What block does your client say it is on? (Damn do GUI clients even tell you what block they are on? I don't use GUI clients...)

This is what I see from my client:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iiyawm8h77nogdf/Screenshot%202013-11-13%2007.21.36.png

On dvcstable01, getinfo says "blocks" : 113658 so maybe you aren't quite caught up yet?

(Your image says 105341 down at the bottom... that would be a couple of months or so ago...)

-MarkM-



How does the flow of information work regarding json rpc to the daemon? You have to have wallet and daemon running and rpc connects to the wallet which goes to daemon?

Im in talks with adding dvc to a potentially very high volume exchange its new and they are setting it up but they need to be able to talk via json rpc with php to the daemon.. Im assuming its this:

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=communicating_with_devcon_wallet_using_php

Also I hope we can vote on something so we can actually start with some bounties. I spoke to Unthinkingbit and he said management of the bounties has always been a problem so we need a way to allocate people to bounties and managers and developers. Management would get say 15% of the
bounty stake.

I truly think once we get back to the initial goals we will lift off. Writers will make more than today if price is above 40 sat's
legendary
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November 13, 2013, 10:52:26 AM
Less than $1000 for a 3D printer that prints metal: http://gigaom.com/2013/11/12/meet-the-mini-metal-maker-a-basic-sub-1000-3d-printer-that-prints-metal/

One of our goals was 3D printing metal wasn't it?

-MarkM-


We could have 3D printing designs paid for by Devtome.  Number of downloads of your design = number of DVC shares.

Who would fund upfront cost to build?

Yea markm it was a goal so now we can buy it and
create designs.. how would we fund it when devtome takes up all the coins?
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November 13, 2013, 10:31:09 AM
On dvcstable01, getinfo says "blocks" : 113658 so maybe you aren't quite caught up yet?

(Your image says 105341 down at the bottom... that would be a couple of months or so ago...)

Oh I see. This is due to my own misunderstanding. When I started playing with Bitcoins I downloaded both Bitcoin/QT and MultiBit (the wallet software). When I used MultiBit, any transaction would have been instantaneous, no need to download the blockchain. I assumed that this was the way the protocol worked: you download the blockchain if you want to be part of the network but transactions to your wallet will be received right away, with no need to download the blockchain.

Now I understand that if you use the main client (such as the one for Devcoins), you need to download the whole blockchain to see the recent transactions, including the ones concerning your wallet.

Thanks!
legendary
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November 13, 2013, 10:24:11 AM
Certainly it could take hours. Quite a few hours.

What block does your client say it is on? (Damn do GUI clients even tell you what block they are on? I don't use GUI clients...)

This is what I see from my client:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iiyawm8h77nogdf/Screenshot%202013-11-13%2007.21.36.png

On dvcstable01, getinfo says "blocks" : 113658 so maybe you aren't quite caught up yet?

(Your image says 105341 down at the bottom... that would be a couple of months or so ago...)

-MarkM-
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November 13, 2013, 10:22:36 AM
Certainly it could take hours. Quite a few hours.

What block does your client say it is on? (Damn do GUI clients even tell you what block they are on? I don't use GUI clients...)

This is what I see from my client:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iiyawm8h77nogdf/Screenshot%202013-11-13%2007.21.36.png
legendary
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November 13, 2013, 09:29:47 AM
Markm Can you please help? Smiley

Hover your mouse over the link to your article.

See that it says wiki:user ?

You need the colon in there, [[:pagename]] or something like that, to make the link point out of the user-pages section to the actual main articles section.

-MarkM-


Thank you again for the quick answer. Smiley
legendary
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November 13, 2013, 09:21:17 AM
Hello Friends,

I am having some issues with my DVC wallet. Given that CEX recently started mining DVCs, I downloaded the DVC app for Mac and created my wallet. I tried to withdraw some DVCs from CEX, I gave them my address but I don't see the transaction and I don't see my coins in my wallet.

I also tried the DVC faucet and again, no coins and no transactions.

What could be the reason? These are the two addresses that I am using on the DVC Mac app.

1K3TJU7dT9sN2VwNDheFGHvbTGxo3MCWjh
1NAnWxsFwxzpjXL4GcAXhDSGR2HD5zZsTH

It is old code, even the new database the latest bitcoins etc use takes time to catch up to the blockchain.

Old code could take days to get the blockchain maybe, depending on your modem speed and the speed at which your processor can verify blocks.

Certainly it could take hours. Quite a few hours.

What block does your client say it is on? (Damn do GUI clients even tell you what block they are on? I don't use GUI clients...)

-MarkM-
legendary
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November 13, 2013, 09:19:13 AM
Markm Can you please help? Smiley

Hover your mouse over the link to your article.

See that it says wiki:user ?

You need the colon in there, [[:pagename]] or something like that, to make the link point out of the user-pages section to the actual main articles section.

-MarkM-
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November 13, 2013, 08:49:51 AM
Hello Friends,

I am having some issues with my DVC wallet. Given that CEX recently started mining DVCs, I downloaded the DVC app for Mac and created my wallet. I tried to withdraw some DVCs from CEX, I gave them my address but I don't see the transaction and I don't see my coins in my wallet.

I also tried the DVC faucet and again, no coins and no transactions.

What could be the reason? These are the two addresses that I am using on the DVC Mac app.

1K3TJU7dT9sN2VwNDheFGHvbTGxo3MCWjh
1NAnWxsFwxzpjXL4GcAXhDSGR2HD5zZsTH
hero member
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November 13, 2013, 08:14:00 AM
Less than $1000 for a 3D printer that prints metal: http://gigaom.com/2013/11/12/meet-the-mini-metal-maker-a-basic-sub-1000-3d-printer-that-prints-metal/

One of our goals was 3D printing metal wasn't it?

-MarkM-


We could have 3D printing designs paid for by Devtome.  Number of downloads of your design = number of DVC shares.
legendary
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November 13, 2013, 07:57:53 AM
Markm Can you please help? Smiley
legendary
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November 13, 2013, 07:00:52 AM
Less than $1000 for a 3D printer that prints metal: http://gigaom.com/2013/11/12/meet-the-mini-metal-maker-a-basic-sub-1000-3d-printer-that-prints-metal/

One of our goals was 3D printing metal wasn't it?

-MarkM-
legendary
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November 13, 2013, 06:45:45 AM
Hello,
Here it is the link of the article i have posted.
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:gondels
Am i doing it right? Please help, i really want to start writing for devcoins Smiley

No, you have pasted the actual text of your article to your user-page.

You need to set up your user-age with sections in which you will put links to your articles, the links being in the collated section or the original section.

The articles themselves go in the main part of the wiki as pages of their own.

-MarkM-


Sorry for for the question, but is this done right already or i am missing something.
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:gondels#original
Thank you!

Look at other people's user-pages for examples, like mine for example: http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:knotwork

Use the edit option to see the actual wiki-code used. You made yours like an external link. You need to make it an internal link, and furthermore that needs something special, a colon I think, to make sure it points over to the main wiki instead of assuming you mean the link to stay inside only the user-pages section. You also need the text saying it is original, that the robot (script) presumably looks for on each line .

-MarkM-


Thank you again so much. I think i made it already : http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:gondels
I see you have pretty much articles of your own. How much did your earned for now if it is not a secret? And how much can i expect to earn for example per 1000 words? How much time a share takes? Thank you Smiley
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