[DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 365.

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Quote from: FinShaggy on October 10, 2013, 12:21:21 PM

I honestly think lowering the word count is the best way to do it.

You can still write as much as you want, it will just carry into the next round. And with everyone getting less shares, the shares are worth more and people who don't write earn more.

But also,
If we tried to get everyone that is mad about writer over earnings, to just start writing on Devtome. Then the only issue they would have is that too many people are writing and shares are getting too small. It's still an issue, but it's a better one.

The issue is only the max payout per person per round (or in my opinion, max payout for devtome as a whole as a % of total per round to then be divided up however everybody wants to). There doesn't have to be any limit to word count/submission volume in itself at all, so as viewer popularity/advertising income grows that should catalyse payment for those interested rather than via specific devtome payment.

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Quote from: sidhujag on October 10, 2013, 12:22:26 PM

Agreed I've been pushing for that as you know but seem to be ignored or overheard by loud voices from writers with other interests. I think this should take the highest priority right now to ensure the future of the project. Bounty or no bounty I can work on the code if someone points me to what needs to be fixed, or if we can collaborate with a codebase thats already updated.

Yep agree it pisses me off as so incredibly counter productive, but wasn't having a go at you.

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Quote from: weisoq on October 10, 2013, 12:17:51 PM

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its a pretty big exchange, I've chatted with him. He says that the devcoin community shouldn't act like they got a handout and hit the lottery bit being on mcxnow which has some validity because he says there are serious issues with the code.

Also his email response was:

"Sorry the node for devcoin is too unreliable (crashes fairly often, has multithreading bugs). It doesn't meet my criteria for a stable enough chain."

This is the first ive heard about this, is this true? I thought we were doing something about fixing the code with I0Coin update?

If we can fix the code and how him we are working on fixing it I think he may keep it, I think we should have some kind of bounty for fixing it or get someone who knows what they are doing. I told him I would happily look at it if he gave me some guidance as I am a programmer but never looked at the source for any crypto.

Jag

yeah maybe if we re-visted rather than ignored the devtome over-payment issues there's be a better incentive to get other things done...

Agreed I've been pushing for that as you know but seem to be ignored or overheard by loud voices from writers with other interests. I think this should take the highest priority right now to ensure the future of the project. Bounty or no bounty I can work on the code if someone points me to what needs to be fixed, or if we can collaborate with a codebase thats already updated.

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I honestly think lowering the word count is the best way to do it.

You can still write as much as you want, it will just carry into the next round. And with everyone getting less shares, the shares are worth more and people who don't write earn more.

But also,
If we tried to get everyone that is mad about writer over earnings, to just start writing on Devtome. Then the only issue they would have is that too many people are writing and shares are getting too small. It's still an issue, but it's a better one.

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its a pretty big exchange, I've chatted with him. He says that the devcoin community shouldn't act like they got a handout and hit the lottery bit being on mcxnow which has some validity because he says there are serious issues with the code.

Also his email response was:

"Sorry the node for devcoin is too unreliable (crashes fairly often, has multithreading bugs). It doesn't meet my criteria for a stable enough chain."

This is the first ive heard about this, is this true? I thought we were doing something about fixing the code with I0Coin update?

If we can fix the code and how him we are working on fixing it I think he may keep it, I think we should have some kind of bounty for fixing it or get someone who knows what they are doing. I told him I would happily look at it if he gave me some guidance as I am a programmer but never looked at the source for any crypto.

Jag

yeah maybe if we re-visted rather than ignored the devtome over-payment issues there's be a better incentive to get other things done...

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Quote from: FinShaggy on October 10, 2013, 10:08:40 AM

I think it will all be fine. Did ya'll see that list of businesses accepting Devcoin? It's HUGE (Like 9+ places). As long as we promote that at the end of every round, Devcoin will go up in price and the MXCNow guy will feel stupid.

its a pretty big exchange, I've chatted with him. He says that the devcoin community shouldn't act like they got a handout and hit the lottery bit being on mcxnow which has some validity because he says there are serious issues with the code.

Also his email response was:

"Sorry the node for devcoin is too unreliable (crashes fairly often, has multithreading bugs). It doesn't meet my criteria for a stable enough chain."

This is the first ive heard about this, is this true? Tjats a major claim against the project. I thought we were doing something about fixing the code with I0Coin update?

If we can fix the code and how him we are working on fixing it I think he may keep it, I think we should have some kind of bounty for fixing it or get someone who knows what they are doing. I told him I would happily look at it if he gave me some guidance as I am a programmer but never looked at the source for any crypto.

Jag

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I think it will all be fine. Did ya'll see that list of businesses accepting Devcoin? It's HUGE (Like 9+ places). As long as we promote that at the end of every round, Devcoin will go up in price and the MXCNow guy will feel stupid.

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Quote from: Unthinkingbit on October 08, 2013, 01:01:47 PM

We've been trying to get high paying banner advertising for devtome for the last few months, but the six fiat networks contacted, including adsense, were not interested in devtome. I guess that they want either a really popular website, or a small website that is on one topic. We do have bitcoin banner ads, but they pay very little. We'll reapply to fiat networks in a few months when devtome is more popular.

However, we did get accepted to the Amazon Associate program, and all devtome writers should get a tracking ID by listing their name on the devtome Amazon Associate page:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devtome_amazon_associate

Any sales from the tracking ID will be converted to devcoins and sent to the writer. Besides making affiliate links on devtome, writers can also use the tracking ID on their own website or blog, and those sales will also be converted to devcoins and sent to them. You can use the links in text, and/or image links. The affiliate revenue will be small per month, but it's ongoing, you can collect it forever. If someone uses their tracking ID in spam or something scammy they'll be dropped from the devtome Amazon Associates list.

Eventually having Amazon links in devtome text will also count to the earnings multiplier, with a low weighting of probably around 20%.

Why not go with micropayments? Coinbase finally makes it possible and so do some others.

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Quote from: ranlo on October 10, 2013, 12:32:03 AM

Quote from: wiser on October 10, 2013, 12:18:34 AM

Quote from: psybits on October 09, 2013, 11:56:03 PM

Devcoin is trading on Cryptsy for LTC

They will most likely upgrade it to a BTC market when DVC picks up a little more.

OK, I hadn't thought to look for non BTC combinations. Good to know. If I want to use LTC as an intermediary, that might work. Then again, sounds like it's back to Vircurex I go...

Quote from: psybits on October 09, 2013, 11:56:03 PM

Also as far as I know mcxNOW is a big supporter of Devcoin.

Not anymore. RS can't wait to get rid of them Cry

Not sure when that will actually happen. You should write him and tell him you like Devcoins. Maybe you'll have better luck than I did.

Last I heard from RS (last night), he said it will be ~4 weeks from now when it's fully removed. Presumably he'll stop trading prior to that to let things settle down and ensure everyone can withdraw.

Was any reason mentioned for disliking Devcoins? It's quite strange given how many useless altcoins there are out there. There's such a plethora of useless coins which are hardly worthwhile even trading. To underscore this point, there's even a new coin 'proving' how worthless many of them are called "Shitcoin":

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-new-coin-launch-shit-coin-sht-307419

Anyway, hopefully if DVC disappears from one exchange, it pops up on another and really, exchanges are opening and closing at such rate that we should just look at this as a bump on the road. As DVC grows in stability and usage over time, it will become more apparent that DVC is not a 'here today, gone tomorrow' coin like some others out there.

Mcxnow is on an exponential growth curve. David pate is now on there with his entire stash of about $500k worth fees and cryptos. Other whales are on too. They throw btc around like its nothing and move all coins on there. Its going to catch up to btce soon in terms of volume traded.. so any alt on there is golden we should fight hard to keep it there!! Today on a non moving day there was 100 million dvc traded again. Some other alts have up to 2000 btc days of volume thats a quarter million $$ during pumps..

Lately dvc has picked up so we should remind him why he put it up to support the developer community.. And its also driving in volume now.. if it goes for a while for say another month without volume id say ya take it off but its making money so we should push to keep it there.

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Quote from: ranlo on October 10, 2013, 12:32:03 AM

Quote from: wiser on October 10, 2013, 12:18:34 AM

Quote from: psybits on October 09, 2013, 11:56:03 PM

Devcoin is trading on Cryptsy for LTC

They will most likely upgrade it to a BTC market when DVC picks up a little more.

OK, I hadn't thought to look for non BTC combinations. Good to know. If I want to use LTC as an intermediary, that might work. Then again, sounds like it's back to Vircurex I go...

Quote from: psybits on October 09, 2013, 11:56:03 PM

Also as far as I know mcxNOW is a big supporter of Devcoin.

Not anymore. RS can't wait to get rid of them Cry

Not sure when that will actually happen. You should write him and tell him you like Devcoins. Maybe you'll have better luck than I did.

Last I heard from RS (last night), he said it will be ~4 weeks from now when it's fully removed. Presumably he'll stop trading prior to that to let things settle down and ensure everyone can withdraw.

Was any reason mentioned for disliking Devcoins? It's quite strange given how many useless altcoins there are out there. There's such a plethora of useless coins which are hardly worthwhile even trading. To underscore this point, there's even a new coin 'proving' how worthless many of them are called "Shitcoin":

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-new-coin-launch-shit-coin-sht-307419

Anyway, hopefully if DVC disappears from one exchange, it pops up on another and really, exchanges are opening and closing at such rate that we should just look at this as a bump on the road. As DVC grows in stability and usage over time, it will become more apparent that DVC is not a 'here today, gone tomorrow' coin like some others out there.

He said that it's because it is "too much maintenance" (I presume what he means is that the cost of keeping it up on the server and whatnot outweighs the fees that are earned from the trading).

The DVC volume on mcxNOW has been pretty low until the last few days.

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Quote from: wiser on October 10, 2013, 12:18:34 AM

Quote from: psybits on October 09, 2013, 11:56:03 PM

Devcoin is trading on Cryptsy for LTC

They will most likely upgrade it to a BTC market when DVC picks up a little more.

OK, I hadn't thought to look for non BTC combinations. Good to know. If I want to use LTC as an intermediary, that might work. Then again, sounds like it's back to Vircurex I go...

Quote from: psybits on October 09, 2013, 11:56:03 PM

Also as far as I know mcxNOW is a big supporter of Devcoin.

Not anymore. RS can't wait to get rid of them Cry

Not sure when that will actually happen. You should write him and tell him you like Devcoins. Maybe you'll have better luck than I did.

Last I heard from RS (last night), he said it will be ~4 weeks from now when it's fully removed. Presumably he'll stop trading prior to that to let things settle down and ensure everyone can withdraw.

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Quote from: psybits on October 09, 2013, 11:56:03 PM

Devcoin is trading on Cryptsy for LTC

They will most likely upgrade it to a BTC market when DVC picks up a little more.

OK, I hadn't thought to look for non BTC combinations. Good to know. If I want to use LTC as an intermediary, that might work. Then again, sounds like it's back to Vircurex I go...

Quote from: psybits on October 09, 2013, 11:56:03 PM

Also as far as I know mcxNOW is a big supporter of Devcoin.

Not anymore. RS can't wait to get rid of them Cry

Not sure when that will actually happen. You should write him and tell him you like Devcoins. Maybe you'll have better luck than I did.

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Quote from: wiser on October 09, 2013, 11:48:59 PM

So... did Cryptsy drop Devcoins? I'm not finding them listed there. I've never had an account there. Is Vircurex really going to be the only place to buy/sell DVCs now?

Devcoin is trading on Cryptsy for LTC

They will most likely upgrade it to a BTC market when DVC picks up a little more.

Also as far as I know mcxNOW is a big supporter of Devcoin.

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So... did Cryptsy drop Devcoins? I'm not finding them listed there. I've never had an account there. Is Vircurex really going to be the only place to buy/sell DVCs now?

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Quote from: ranlo on October 09, 2013, 09:23:32 PM

Quote from: sidhujag on October 09, 2013, 02:12:44 PM

I think the new exchange mcxnow.com offers a bright future for Devcoin... it recently has and an injection of liquidity that is looking for a place to stay other than bitcoin. We know that when whales come in they would rather actively invest by trading. There are a handful of coins on there which are traded and dvc has benefited from the increased volume by hitting up to 100 satoishi recently! The volume was over 100 million dvc a few days in a row. We havent seen that on vircurex forever! Anyways I've been hearing from the chat mods and other users on the site that they are looking to replace devcoin with namecoin and we should all let our voices be heard if that is true. I really think that the exchange offers the light for dvc and we should try to fight to keep it alive. With it growing so fast I wouldn't be surprised if its labelled as 'the alt coin marketplace' and with big money coming in from stock exchanges (equity) I would see a big future for any alts on there.

His email is [email protected] I believe that is realsolid's email.

Jag

RS (the owner of mcxnow) has stated that DVC is already in the process of being removed. He just wants to "transition it out" and is dropping it soon. I think we're a bit too far for saving it at this point, although if DVC gains momentum in the future it's a possibility.

That really STINKS!

EDIT: Right now there are 11,092 accounts, which means that the number of users who are on the site to buy or sell Devcoins could be a significant percentage of that. There probably is no better time to reach out to RS and tell him why you're there. Even those who don't have an account can reach out. If what Jag says is correct about mcxNOW being a significant reason for the recent increase in value in DVC, then that benefit has been felt by non account holders too.

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I sent off a note to RS about this. I've noticed people trashing Devcoins in the chat window but I guess I never saw anything that indicated they might actually take it off the platform. And lately there's been a lot of movement in Devcoin, so I suspect they might already be rethinking this idea, if it ever was a serious one. I don't see why they can't just add Namecoin without removing anything else anyway. But it can definitely not hurt to write in and say that we love having Devcoins there

Quote from: sidhujag on October 09, 2013, 02:12:44 PM

I think the new exchange mcxnow.com offers a bright future for Devcoin... it recently has and an injection of liquidity that is looking for a place to stay other than bitcoin. We know that when whales come in they would rather actively invest by trading. There are a handful of coins on there which are traded and dvc has benefited from the increased volume by hitting up to 100 satoishi recently! The volume was over 100 million dvc a few days in a row. We havent seen that on vircurex forever! Anyways I've been hearing from the chat mods and other users on the site that they are looking to replace devcoin with namecoin and we should all let our voices be heard if that is true. I really think that the exchange offers the light for dvc and we should try to fight to keep it alive. With it growing so fast I wouldn't be surprised if its labelled as 'the alt coin marketplace' and with big money coming in from stock exchanges (equity) I would see a big future for any alts on there.

His email is [email protected] I believe that is realsolid's email.

Jag

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Quote from: sidhujag on October 09, 2013, 02:12:44 PM

I think the new exchange mcxnow.com offers a bright future for Devcoin... it recently has and an injection of liquidity that is looking for a place to stay other than bitcoin. We know that when whales come in they would rather actively invest by trading. There are a handful of coins on there which are traded and dvc has benefited from the increased volume by hitting up to 100 satoishi recently! The volume was over 100 million dvc a few days in a row. We havent seen that on vircurex forever! Anyways I've been hearing from the chat mods and other users on the site that they are looking to replace devcoin with namecoin and we should all let our voices be heard if that is true. I really think that the exchange offers the light for dvc and we should try to fight to keep it alive. With it growing so fast I wouldn't be surprised if its labelled as 'the alt coin marketplace' and with big money coming in from stock exchanges (equity) I would see a big future for any alts on there.

His email is [email protected] I believe that is realsolid's email.

Jag

RS (the owner of mcxnow) has stated that DVC is already in the process of being removed. He just wants to "transition it out" and is dropping it soon. I think we're a bit too far for saving it at this point, although if DVC gains momentum in the future it's a possibility.

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Thank you very much!

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Quote from: wiser on October 08, 2013, 08:50:01 PM

This is truly AWESOME news because I live in a state that is not supported by the Amazon affiliate program, as in I can't be an affiliate on my own. I went ahead and submitted my user ID.

Thanks, the more writers sign up, the more stuff we'll sell, which gives us a higher commission percentage.

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I have a question about it. Amazon allows you to link to specific products or specific types of products. So for example, if I was writing a book review on my blog, I could also include a link to that specific book in the post. I would like to know if this could become possible in this system, where there is a way that I could submit an amazon page I want to promote and then have someone create a unique affiliate link to that page for me. At this point it sounds like it would be a lot of work for someone, or it would require allowing all of us to log into the account, neither of which seems like a good idea.

You don't have to log into an Amazon account to make a link. The Amazon admin logs into the devtome account to get a tag for whoever lists one on the Amazon page:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devtome_amazon_associate

The tracking id is devtome-your_name-20. You use your tag in your link, as described at:
https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/associates/help/t5/a16

The format is amazon home page link, "/dp/", Amazon Standard Item Number (ASIN), "/?tag=", tracking ID, and link text. For books the ASIN is the same as the 10 digit International Standard Book Number (ISBN). For example, for the Great Gatsby, the ASIN (0743273567) is in the link:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0743273567

and it is also listed on the page:
ISBN-10: 0743273567

for wiser, the wiki format link would be:
[http://www.amazon.com/dp/0743273567/?tag=devtome-wiser-20 Great Gatsby by Scott Fitzgerald]

To link to another book, paste the 10 digit ISBN of the other book into the ISBN part of the link address and change the link text.

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Quote from: MAbtc on October 09, 2013, 01:53:36 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on October 09, 2013, 11:57:26 AM

Quote from: meta.p02 on October 09, 2013, 11:18:24 AM

I think the round ends at 109,300. (Does it?)

Anyway, posted my first article! It's only 2.5K words, but it's a start

Oh, maybe. Idk exactly.

Nice. Good luck with writing

I would order a book or two, for when you get writers block. Reading inspires ideas.

I just ordered some books that are really going to help us out

Over 30 marketing tips for helping a company go international
Over 100 tips for social media
A book specifically about how to get people to want to read your books, which can defintely be applied to articles and websites
One about integrating a business to society
And I'm reading the Art of War right now (Sun Tzu)

So this article ( http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_advertising_campaign ) will be getting A LOT better soon

I think I recall someone mentioning earlier that it was 109,300. Can anyone confirm? Also, since this is my first round I still wasn't sure how it works -- do shares go out at the end of next round? Like, this round ends at 109,300, next round ends at X -- we get paid for this round at X? Or maybe I understood it wrong and there isn't actually one round lag. Huh

does anyone know the answer to this? i was just starting to look into writing for devtome. i am too late to get anything in for this round. but i cant figure out how the payouts work. i was looking at some payout addresses and it looks like maybe writers get paid gradually through the next round as blocks are generated?

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I think the new exchange mcxnow.com offers a bright future for Devcoin... it recently has and an injection of liquidity that is looking for a place to stay other than bitcoin. We know that when whales come in they would rather actively invest by trading. There are a handful of coins on there which are traded and dvc has benefited from the increased volume by hitting up to 100 satoishi recently! The volume was over 100 million dvc a few days in a row. We havent seen that on vircurex forever! Anyways I've been hearing from the chat mods and other users on the site that they are looking to replace devcoin with namecoin and we should all let our voices be heard if that is true. I really think that the exchange offers the light for dvc and we should try to fight to keep it alive. With it growing so fast I wouldn't be surprised if its labelled as 'the alt coin marketplace' and with big money coming in from stock exchanges (equity) I would see a big future for any alts on there.

His email is [email protected] I believe that is realsolid's email.

Jag

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