Dwarf FPGA – the anti-ASIC - page 36.

OTC_Buyer

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Quote from: DwarfMiner on May 08, 2018, 11:19:43 PM

Guys! It was an announcement only. Video and full information will be available within a few days.
Please do not send technical questions to the e-mail! Our sales managers can not answer. This is for sale only. I will answer here whenever possible.

What is purpose of the PSU terminal that isn’t being used on the power supply plug?

astraleureka

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Quote from: OurManInHavana on June 08, 2018, 09:56:24 PM

Quote from: demonical85 on June 08, 2018, 09:16:42 PM

new but just so curious......
WHERE

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Could that be a Microsemi SmartFusion FPGA? Has a similar look to the chip on their eval board (https://www.microsemi.com/existing-parts/parts/143985)

Or is the Dwarf chip physically larger?

The specs on this Microsemi FPGA are far too weak to even do a single instance of Cryptonight. To get the hashrate he's claiming you'd have to run multiple instances of the algorithm simultaneously, especially since FPGAs have many limitations preventing high clock speeds.

melpheos

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Quote from: mk111 on June 09, 2018, 04:50:24 AM

Quote from: nsummy on June 08, 2018, 10:59:05 PM

Here are a few points that I don't believe have been brought up yet, but make this kind of suspect:

Reference the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MLnaZqkoQw

1. There appears to be 2 cables coming out of the right side of the monitor. Leads me to believe that the video source isn't really that board.

2. Why the hell does that board have a vga port to begin with? Seems rather odd considering the video displayed looks like an 8-bit nintendo and provides little information.

3. The IE window conveniently has the address bar cut off in the video, so you can't tell if this is just some html file on his C drive.

4. In the other video he used an ipad that we couldn't see very well as "proof" Why couldn't he have just mirrored the display like he did in this video where he was showing the config?

Edit:

5. The LED lights on the network port aren't even lit up or blinking! That network cable isn't even plugged into anything.

LOL indeed the LAN port lights is not even working.
Wake up people! This is a scam people, you are going to loose your money!!

Those are LAN ports without LED !!!
Maybe it's a scam but saying it's a scam because the port that does not have led is not lightening is kinda stupid

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Quote from: yrk1957 on June 08, 2018, 08:57:08 AM

Quote from: h311m4n on June 08, 2018, 08:10:01 AM

The fact remains, that when you mine, you essentially transform energy (the watts) into information, it's simple physics. Information is energy. Being able to hash at 3.5Kh/s for 10W just doesn't seem right, you're near 100% efficiency. And don't get me wrong, but looking at the pictures of the miner, it doesn't look like much...

If I were you, I'd produce 1000 and run them myself and just dump whatever I mine to make a shit ton of $$$$.

If someone trusted on here confirms that your miner does what you say it does, then I'll be the first to order 10 from you. But until then, this is a scam in my books.

Your argument about selling a money priting machine cheaply is very fine.

But the power argument is in-correct, the Baikal N240 does 240Kh/s at 650W, almost same power per watt...

One is an ASIC, custom made for an algo, the other is not. Unless there is a huge tech / price gap (eg 130nm ASIC vs 7nm FPGA...) an FPGA can not compte against an ASIC on ONE specific algo.

PRC_May

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7 kH on Monero that very good

but we want see video when you run this miner

if you got this number of hash ... why you dont use it for you and all profit will go to your wallate Huh

mk111

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Quote from: nsummy on June 08, 2018, 10:59:05 PM

Here are a few points that I don't believe have been brought up yet, but make this kind of suspect:

Reference the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MLnaZqkoQw

1. There appears to be 2 cables coming out of the right side of the monitor. Leads me to believe that the video source isn't really that board.

2. Why the hell does that board have a vga port to begin with? Seems rather odd considering the video displayed looks like an 8-bit nintendo and provides little information.

3. The IE window conveniently has the address bar cut off in the video, so you can't tell if this is just some html file on his C drive.

4. In the other video he used an ipad that we couldn't see very well as "proof" Why couldn't he have just mirrored the display like he did in this video where he was showing the config?

Edit:

5. The LED lights on the network port aren't even lit up or blinking! That network cable isn't even plugged into anything.

LOL indeed the LAN port lights is not even working.
Wake up people! This is a scam people, you are going to loose your money!!

melpheos

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Quote from: nsummy on June 08, 2018, 10:59:05 PM

Here are a few points that I don't believe have been brought up yet, but make this kind of suspect:

Reference the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MLnaZqkoQw

1. There appears to be 2 cables coming out of the right side of the monitor. Leads me to believe that the video source isn't really that board.

2. Why the hell does that board have a vga port to begin with? Seems rather odd considering the video displayed looks like an 8-bit nintendo and provides little information.

3. The IE window conveniently has the address bar cut off in the video, so you can't tell if this is just some html file on his C drive.

4. In the other video he used an ipad that we couldn't see very well as "proof" Why couldn't he have just mirrored the display like he did in this video where he was showing the config?

Edit:

5. The LED lights on the network port aren't even lit up or blinking! That network cable isn't even plugged into anything.

1. PSU and VGA power cable (another vga cable could be hidden behind the stand or the voltage controller
2. Monitoring the board maybe, a vga port and a display chip cost nothing
3 . IE window ?
4. that's possible is there is a hidden VGA cable

nsummy

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Here are a few points that I don't believe have been brought up yet, but make this kind of suspect:

Reference the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MLnaZqkoQw

1. There appears to be 2 cables coming out of the right side of the monitor. Leads me to believe that the video source isn't really that board.

2. Why the hell does that board have a vga port to begin with? Seems rather odd considering the video displayed looks like an 8-bit nintendo and provides little information.

3. The IE window conveniently has the address bar cut off in the video, so you can't tell if this is just some html file on his C drive.

4. In the other video he used an ipad that we couldn't see very well as "proof" Why couldn't he have just mirrored the display like he did in this video where he was showing the config?

Edit:

5. The LED lights on the network port aren't even lit up or blinking! That network cable isn't even plugged into anything.

OurManInHavana

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Quote from: demonical85 on June 08, 2018, 09:16:42 PM

new but just so curious......
WHERE

jpg file

Could that be a Microsemi SmartFusion FPGA? Has a similar look to the chip on their eval board (https://www.microsemi.com/existing-parts/parts/143985)

Or is the Dwarf chip physically larger?

demonical85

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new but just so curious......
WHERE

jpg file
https://mega.nz/#!GKIwUKZC!A4baxOtjTgbdk9Un3syd_noduX5Zpr_ut1ghK4xw7yo

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Quote from: DwarfMiner on June 08, 2018, 05:59:17 PM

--Dwarfminer, how are you able to extract 7Kh/s out of that little chip at 10W, when the guys over in the other thread can only get 14KH @ 150W out of a full blown, $3500 Xilinx FPGA?
The Xilinx chip was designed specifically for mining?

No, is your chip an ASIC?

not.you

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Quote from: DwarfMiner on June 08, 2018, 05:59:17 PM

--If the NiceHash CNV7 pool works, that would be a great start!
NiceHash pool works fine.

--I will admit I think its a little weird that they are doing a pre-order if they don't need the money!
We derive some sums in crypt. But most of the payments go through the bank.
And yes, the whole batch was prepaid.

--tin foil hat on I thought the domain was a little odd since its a sub domain
This is NOT a domain. This is online store service. What sense to reinvent the wheel again?
But it's very logical to draw up a bank account, paypal, board production and all this anonymously. But the domain can not be bought anonymously. Domain is our excalibur. The highest guarantee of reliability.

--Dwarfminer, how are you able to extract 7Kh/s out of that little chip at 10W, when the guys over in the other thread can only get 14KH @ 150W out of a full blown, $3500 Xilinx FPGA?
The Xilinx chip was designed specifically for mining?

--If I were you, I'd produce 1000 and run them myself and just dump whatever I mine to make a shit ton of $$$$.
1300 was distributed to the developers, do not worry.
Some of them were sold in bulk.
Some were paid, then buyers asked for a refund and it was sold again.
In reality, we sold even more than 5000.

Well I don't know about anyone else but those are some seriously confidence inspiring answers right there. And they all make perfect sense and line up exactly with everything else this person has said so far. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: DwarfMiner on June 08, 2018, 05:59:17 PM

--If the NiceHash CNV7 pool works, that would be a great start!
NiceHash pool works fine.

--I will admit I think its a little weird that they are doing a pre-order if they don't need the money!
We derive some sums in crypt. But most of the payments go through the bank.
And yes, the whole batch was prepaid.

--tin foil hat on I thought the domain was a little odd since its a sub domain
This is NOT a domain. This is online store service. What sense to reinvent the wheel again?
But it's very logical to draw up a bank account, paypal, board production and all this anonymously. But the domain can not be bought anonymously. Domain is our excalibur. The highest guarantee of reliability.

--Dwarfminer, how are you able to extract 7Kh/s out of that little chip at 10W, when the guys over in the other thread can only get 14KH @ 150W out of a full blown, $3500 Xilinx FPGA?
The Xilinx chip was designed specifically for mining?

--If I were you, I'd produce 1000 and run them myself and just dump whatever I mine to make a shit ton of $$$$.
1300 was distributed to the developers, do not worry.
Some of them were sold in bulk.
Some were paid, then buyers asked for a refund and it was sold again.
In reality, we sold even more than 5000.

I am interested, but got a few questions:-

1. What is the planned delivery date of these miners?
2. Can you tell us if any Legendary or Hero member placed order for your miners?

Thanks.

DwarfMiner

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--If the NiceHash CNV7 pool works, that would be a great start!
NiceHash pool works fine.

--I will admit I think its a little weird that they are doing a pre-order if they don't need the money!
We derive some sums in crypt. But most of the payments go through the bank.
And yes, the whole batch was prepaid.

--tin foil hat on I thought the domain was a little odd since its a sub domain
This is NOT a domain. This is online store service. What sense to reinvent the wheel again?
But it's very logical to draw up a bank account, paypal, board production and all this anonymously. But the domain can not be bought anonymously. Domain is our excalibur. The highest guarantee of reliability.

--Dwarfminer, how are you able to extract 7Kh/s out of that little chip at 10W, when the guys over in the other thread can only get 14KH @ 150W out of a full blown, $3500 Xilinx FPGA?
The Xilinx chip was designed specifically for mining?

--If I were you, I'd produce 1000 and run them myself and just dump whatever I mine to make a shit ton of $$$$.
1300 was distributed to the developers, do not worry.
Some of them were sold in bulk.
Some were paid, then buyers asked for a refund and it was sold again.
In reality, we sold even more than 5000.

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Quote from: easymonkey on June 08, 2018, 01:44:26 PM

Quote from: yrk1957 on June 08, 2018, 08:57:08 AM

Quote from: h311m4n on June 08, 2018, 08:10:01 AM

The fact remains, that when you mine, you essentially transform energy (the watts) into information, it's simple physics. Information is energy. Being able to hash at 3.5Kh/s for 10W just doesn't seem right, you're near 100% efficiency. And don't get me wrong, but looking at the pictures of the miner, it doesn't look like much...

If I were you, I'd produce 1000 and run them myself and just dump whatever I mine to make a shit ton of $$$$.

If someone trusted on here confirms that your miner does what you say it does, then I'll be the first to order 10 from you. But until then, this is a scam in my books.

Your argument about selling a money priting machine cheaply is very fine.

But the power argument is in-correct, the Baikal N240 does 240Kh/s at 650W, almost same power per watt...

I remember seeing people saying the Halong miners were a scam, they too showed a bunch of Youtube videos and never sent a review unit out to those that wanted one. I ordered 2 of these, so I will see what happens. If legit, I'm sure they have a few "prototypes" already mining on the CryptonightV7 pools. I'd buy 100 of batch 2 if it works out.
Never mentioned anything about warranty though.

Thats a very good point. I guess I am just now getting my batch 2 DragonMint up and running, and I did take a risk on that one. It was quite the impulse buy, but now that its been a solid bear market Im quite happy I did! =)

If people didnt take risks, I guess the space would just flounder. So bless the brave souls then.

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Quote from: yrk1957 on June 08, 2018, 08:57:08 AM

Quote from: h311m4n on June 08, 2018, 08:10:01 AM

The fact remains, that when you mine, you essentially transform energy (the watts) into information, it's simple physics. Information is energy. Being able to hash at 3.5Kh/s for 10W just doesn't seem right, you're near 100% efficiency. And don't get me wrong, but looking at the pictures of the miner, it doesn't look like much...

If I were you, I'd produce 1000 and run them myself and just dump whatever I mine to make a shit ton of $$$$.

If someone trusted on here confirms that your miner does what you say it does, then I'll be the first to order 10 from you. But until then, this is a scam in my books.

Your argument about selling a money priting machine cheaply is very fine.

But the power argument is in-correct, the Baikal N240 does 240Kh/s at 650W, almost same power per watt...

I remember seeing people saying the Halong miners were a scam, they too showed a bunch of Youtube videos and never sent a review unit out to those that wanted one. I ordered 2 of these, so I will see what happens. If legit, I'm sure they have a few "prototypes" already mining on the CryptonightV7 pools. I'd buy 100 of batch 2 if it works out.
Never mentioned anything about warranty though.

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YouTube.com/VoskCoin

Quote from: ?? on ??

Been watching this thread and have to say the requests to send a trusted member I thought was crazy, if I was apart of the "group of developers" and people were asking for free hand outs for trusted members I would simply say hell no, because we are a "group of developers" not trusting this board either.

HOWEVER, tin foil hat on I thought the domain was a little odd since its a sub domain and contacted the provider. Turns out that this is on a free 30 day trial basis and are not a paying customer to https://www.webasyst.com/

Why was a proper domain not paid for with SSL certs? I can understand to an extent since you are a "group of developers" and I'm sure change could have been scrounged up to pay for it if you truly believed in the product and are not scamming but it is looking more like a bait and switch to me.

The request for review / promo units are to prove that one this product even exists and to get it into the hands of someone who won't just say it is awesome because he got it for free lol

EVEN THEN, it is not fool proof as they could send a review unit . . great review etc. . open orders take a TON of money. . and disappear

It is basic marketing and a simple expense for any legitimate company

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https://bpip.org

Quote from: ?? on ??

That's why I'm sporting the Brand New label Grin

mostly just browse announcements. Understood now, but I think my second paragraph should have a little more attention as it smells like filipino dried fish....

Totally agree about the free site. Plus not having their own domain means there is no domain owner info. Yes, it could be proxied but that would be a red flag. Plus their wire transfers are going to a third party in Latvia. They're trying really hard to hide, which makes no sense for a normal legit business.

suchmoon

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Been watching this thread and have to say the requests to send a trusted member I thought was crazy, if I was apart of the "group of developers" and people were asking for free hand outs for trusted members I would simply say hell no, because we are a "group of developers" not trusting this board either.

It's not an unreasonable request. If you want to sell here (and Dwarf sells ONLY here) then you can surely find a way to make this work. It doesn't even have to be a free handout. I would be happy to pay for a sample (via escrow or PayPal etc) and I'm sure others could offer similar arrangements.

h311m4n

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Been watching this thread and have to say the requests to send a trusted member I thought was crazy, if I was apart of the "group of developers" and people were asking for free hand outs for trusted members I would simply say hell no, because we are a "group of developers" not trusting this board either.

HOWEVER, tin foil hat on I thought the domain was a little odd since its a sub domain and contacted the provider. Turns out that this is on a free 30 day trial basis and are not a paying customer to https://www.webasyst.com/

Why was a proper domain not paid for with SSL certs? I can understand to an extent since you are a "group of developers" and I'm sure change could have been scrounged up to pay for it if you truly believed in the product and are not scamming but it is looking more like a bait and switch to me.

It's not crazy at all and it's not uncommon for companies to hand out review units to people like youtubers. Hell send one to VoskCoin for all I care or pick anyone who is at least a senior or a hero member and send them a test unit. That person could at least confirm that this miner works as advertised. Worst case he doesn't pay the unit, OP loses 450€. Best case it's legit, everyone places an order. It's a small risk for a big win if you ask me. It could also be anyone who ordered and receives one, just make a video anything showing this works.

There have been so many scams in cryptos lately, it's only fair to ask for actual proof!

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