btw, everyone, please forgive me for my merit. I was a little hasty 
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Topic: Dwarf FPGA – the anti-ASIC - page 37. (Read 43440 times)
No worries, merits should not be considered as an endorsement.
We have ~10 days to find out how turns out.
btw, everyone, please forgive me for my merit. I was a little hasty
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btw, everyone, please forgive me for my merit. I was a little hasty
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The fact remains, that when you mine, you essentially transform energy (the watts) into information, it's simple physics. Information is energy. Being able to hash at 3.5Kh/s for 10W just doesn't seem right, you're near 100% efficiency. And don't get me wrong, but looking at the pictures of the miner, it doesn't look like much...
If I were you, I'd produce 1000 and run them myself and just dump whatever I mine to make a shit ton of $$$$.
If someone trusted on here confirms that your miner does what you say it does, then I'll be the first to order 10 from you. But until then, this is a scam in my books.
Your argument about selling a money priting machine cheaply is very fine.
But the power argument is in-correct, the Baikal N240 does 240Kh/s at 650W, almost same power per watt...
Fair enough, I stand corrected!
So OK, 3.5Kh/s for 10W is possible. Now OP, how about you take one for the team and send one of your miners to one of us? I don't get why you keep avoiding this suggestion, if your miner is real and works as advertised, you're going to sell even more. It's a win-win, unless...
I love seeing posts like: "Ok, i ordered, now what can this mine?" Seriously, anyone who orders this and doesn't even know what it mines, attempts to mine, can expect to get from it... Man, I should have taken a job in marketing if it is that easy to sell stuff.
It isn't entirely your fault you don't know the specifics. The OP has been so vague, and evasive on specifics that the answers are not clear. So why not ask these questions before sending your money?
The OP claims he sold out of 5k units, then got 300 units released from Paypal. Then tells us that they 3700 units in 11 days "like hotcakes".
I am no math genius, but there is a little bit of fuzzy math here... Like someone else said, we can let this dead dog, dead horse lay here until the 18th... Maggots are already on the corpse, just waiting for the fly stage. Just go buy some fly swatters and a big club so we can beat the dead horse in a bit. It will make everyone who lost money feel a lot better.
Much metaphor. Very truth. Many fun! Wow!It isn't entirely your fault you don't know the specifics. The OP has been so vague, and evasive on specifics that the answers are not clear. So why not ask these questions before sending your money?
The OP claims he sold out of 5k units, then got 300 units released from Paypal. Then tells us that they 3700 units in 11 days "like hotcakes".
I am no math genius, but there is a little bit of fuzzy math here... Like someone else said, we can let this dead dog, dead horse lay here until the 18th... Maggots are already on the corpse, just waiting for the fly stage. Just go buy some fly swatters and a big club so we can beat the dead horse in a bit. It will make everyone who lost money feel a lot better.
I love seeing posts like: "Ok, i ordered, now what can this mine?" Seriously, anyone who orders this and doesn't even know what it mines, attempts to mine, can expect to get from it... Man, I should have taken a job in marketing if it is that easy to sell stuff.
It isn't entirely your fault you don't know the specifics. The OP has been so vague, and evasive on specifics that the answers are not clear. So why not ask these questions before sending your money?
The OP claims he sold out of 5k units, then got 300 units released from Paypal. Then tells us that they 3700 units in 11 days "like hotcakes".
I am no math genius, but there is a little bit of fuzzy math here... Like someone else said, we can let this dead dog, dead horse lay here until the 18th... Maggots are already on the corpse, just waiting for the fly stage. Just go buy some fly swatters and a big club so we can beat the dead horse in a bit. It will make everyone who lost money feel a lot better.
It isn't entirely your fault you don't know the specifics. The OP has been so vague, and evasive on specifics that the answers are not clear. So why not ask these questions before sending your money?
The OP claims he sold out of 5k units, then got 300 units released from Paypal. Then tells us that they 3700 units in 11 days "like hotcakes".
I am no math genius, but there is a little bit of fuzzy math here... Like someone else said, we can let this dead dog, dead horse lay here until the 18th... Maggots are already on the corpse, just waiting for the fly stage. Just go buy some fly swatters and a big club so we can beat the dead horse in a bit. It will make everyone who lost money feel a lot better.
The fact remains, that when you mine, you essentially transform energy (the watts) into information, it's simple physics. Information is energy. Being able to hash at 3.5Kh/s for 10W just doesn't seem right, you're near 100% efficiency. And don't get me wrong, but looking at the pictures of the miner, it doesn't look like much...
If I were you, I'd produce 1000 and run them myself and just dump whatever I mine to make a shit ton of $$$$.
If someone trusted on here confirms that your miner does what you say it does, then I'll be the first to order 10 from you. But until then, this is a scam in my books.
Your argument about selling a money priting machine cheaply is very fine.
But the power argument is in-correct, the Baikal N240 does 240Kh/s at 650W, almost same power per watt...
--What they mean to say is orders that were tied up in the PayPal freezing issue that haven't paid using other methods have been put back up on the store
yep! But now less than a hundred is available already.
--We should compare if the original paypal requested address matches the currently "unlocked" one for starts....
Our PayPal account has never been blocked. He is tied to our e-mail which everyone knows here.
This is not a reliable payment system, no more.
--100$ for delivery (0.5 kg) - too expensive IMO. Bitmain sends L3+ (4.4 kg) with PSU (3 kg) to me via DHL (3 days) for 180$
Bitmain has corporate discounts. To compensate for postage and risks, we offer our discount.
--sounds too good to be true, at 315€ even more so.
450 without discount (available only for the first batch)
--You'd be selling these like hot cakes if you just get one of us one of these Dwarf boards so we can legitimately
3,700 pieces were sold in 11 days. It's not like hot cakes?
--I'm not sure. UPS CN->France for 1Kg is 700+RMB (around 90€) 4 days
If you have large volumes of production/sending, you can buy postal batches cheepest.
yep! But now less than a hundred is available already.
--We should compare if the original paypal requested address matches the currently "unlocked" one for starts....
Our PayPal account has never been blocked. He is tied to our e-mail which everyone knows here.
This is not a reliable payment system, no more.
--100$ for delivery (0.5 kg) - too expensive IMO. Bitmain sends L3+ (4.4 kg) with PSU (3 kg) to me via DHL (3 days) for 180$
Bitmain has corporate discounts. To compensate for postage and risks, we offer our discount.
--sounds too good to be true, at 315€ even more so.
450 without discount (available only for the first batch)
--You'd be selling these like hot cakes if you just get one of us one of these Dwarf boards so we can legitimately
3,700 pieces were sold in 11 days. It's not like hot cakes?
--I'm not sure. UPS CN->France for 1Kg is 700+RMB (around 90€) 4 days
If you have large volumes of production/sending, you can buy postal batches cheepest.
The fact remains, that when you mine, you essentially transform energy (the watts) into information, it's simple physics. Information is energy. Being able to hash at 3.5Kh/s for 10W just doesn't seem right, you're near 100% efficiency. And don't get me wrong, but looking at the pictures of the miner, it doesn't look like much...
If I were you, I'd produce 1000 and run them myself and just dump whatever I mine to make a shit ton of $$$$.
If someone trusted on here confirms that your miner does what you say it does, then I'll be the first to order 10 from you. But until then, this is a scam in my books.
Dwarfminer, how are you able to extract 7Kh/s out of that little chip at 10W, when the guys over in the other thread can only get 14KH @ 150W out of a full blown, $3500 Xilinx FPGA?
According to the dev, the chip is assisted by an AES chip so the fpga has limited work to do.Xilinx FPGA is a pure FPGA and I think it can definitely go higher than 14K
It says it's anti-ASIC but really it's an ASIC which can be reprogrammed in a limited fashion.
Dwarfminer, how are you able to extract 7Kh/s out of that little chip at 10W, when the guys over in the other thread can only get 14KH @ 150W out of a full blown, $3500 Xilinx FPGA?
I think the consensus on this forum is that the Dwarf is a scam product, but lets give it a rest until the shipping date!
I did buy a couple of units, and I will report back if I got screwed or not.
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I did buy a couple of units, and I will report back if I got screwed or not.
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I hope they're real: I like the idea of getting a bag of 40mm spacers and building a little tower of like 10 of them
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I think the consensus on this forum is that the Dwarf is a scam product, but lets give it a rest until the shipping date!
I did buy a couple of units, and I will report back if I got screwed or not.
The BTC has not moved from the address I paid to, which means they either:
1. Already have enough money to cashout the production order
2. Is waiting for exit-scam
I will admit I think its a little weird that they are doing a pre-order if they don't need the money!
I did buy a couple of units, and I will report back if I got screwed or not.
The BTC has not moved from the address I paid to, which means they either:
1. Already have enough money to cashout the production order
2. Is waiting for exit-scam
I will admit I think its a little weird that they are doing a pre-order if they don't need the money!
--What they mean to say is orders that were tied up in the PayPal freezing issue that haven't paid using other methods have been put back up on the store
yep! But now less than a hundred is available already.
--We should compare if the original paypal requested address matches the currently "unlocked" one for starts....
Our PayPal account has never been blocked. He is tied to our e-mail which everyone knows here.
This is not a reliable payment system, no more.
--100$ for delivery (0.5 kg) - too expensive IMO. Bitmain sends L3+ (4.4 kg) with PSU (3 kg) to me via DHL (3 days) for 180$
Bitmain has corporate discounts. To compensate for postage and risks, we offer our discount.
--sounds too good to be true, at 315€ even more so.
450 without discount (available only for the first batch)
--You'd be selling these like hot cakes if you just get one of us one of these Dwarf boards so we can legitimately
3,700 pieces were sold in 11 days. It's not like hot cakes?
--I'm not sure. UPS CN->France for 1Kg is 700+RMB (around 90€) 4 days
If you have large volumes of production/sending, you can buy postal batches cheepest.
yep! But now less than a hundred is available already.
--We should compare if the original paypal requested address matches the currently "unlocked" one for starts....
Our PayPal account has never been blocked. He is tied to our e-mail which everyone knows here.
This is not a reliable payment system, no more.
--100$ for delivery (0.5 kg) - too expensive IMO. Bitmain sends L3+ (4.4 kg) with PSU (3 kg) to me via DHL (3 days) for 180$
Bitmain has corporate discounts. To compensate for postage and risks, we offer our discount.
--sounds too good to be true, at 315€ even more so.
450 without discount (available only for the first batch)
--You'd be selling these like hot cakes if you just get one of us one of these Dwarf boards so we can legitimately
3,700 pieces were sold in 11 days. It's not like hot cakes?
--I'm not sure. UPS CN->France for 1Kg is 700+RMB (around 90€) 4 days
If you have large volumes of production/sending, you can buy postal batches cheepest.
Again, how can anyone not tell he is full of sh*t...just talks about payment..not about the folk (like me) saying his
product is a scam. (talk about ass backwards way to promote a 'legit' product..kinda the norm for the promotion of an
'imaginary' product though, come to think of it)
Does anyone know what pools the Dwarf Miner works with? I saw the Z9 Mini has a list of known-good/bad sites (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/z9-list-of-working-poolsfork-updates-4404847) so if the Dwarf is even more limited it may only talk to certain pools?
If the NiceHash CNV7 pool works, that would be a great start!
If the NiceHash CNV7 pool works, that would be a great start!
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--We should compare if the original paypal requested address matches the currently "unlocked" one for starts....
Our PayPal account has never been blocked. He is tied to our e-mail which everyone knows here.
This is not a reliable payment system, no more.
Did I really just see this response? "Never been blocked"
--What they mean to say is orders that were tied up in the PayPal freezing issue that haven't paid using other methods have been put back up on the store
yep! But now less than a hundred is available already.
--We should compare if the original paypal requested address matches the currently "unlocked" one for starts....
Our PayPal account has never been blocked. He is tied to our e-mail which everyone knows here.
This is not a reliable payment system, no more.
--100$ for delivery (0.5 kg) - too expensive IMO. Bitmain sends L3+ (4.4 kg) with PSU (3 kg) to me via DHL (3 days) for 180$
Bitmain has corporate discounts. To compensate for postage and risks, we offer our discount.
--sounds too good to be true, at 315€ even more so.
450 without discount (available only for the first batch)
--You'd be selling these like hot cakes if you just get one of us one of these Dwarf boards so we can legitimately
3,700 pieces were sold in 11 days. It's not like hot cakes?
--I'm not sure. UPS CN->France for 1Kg is 700+RMB (around 90€) 4 days
If you have large volumes of production/sending, you can buy postal batches cheepest.
yep! But now less than a hundred is available already.
--We should compare if the original paypal requested address matches the currently "unlocked" one for starts....
Our PayPal account has never been blocked. He is tied to our e-mail which everyone knows here.
This is not a reliable payment system, no more.
--100$ for delivery (0.5 kg) - too expensive IMO. Bitmain sends L3+ (4.4 kg) with PSU (3 kg) to me via DHL (3 days) for 180$
Bitmain has corporate discounts. To compensate for postage and risks, we offer our discount.
--sounds too good to be true, at 315€ even more so.
450 without discount (available only for the first batch)
--You'd be selling these like hot cakes if you just get one of us one of these Dwarf boards so we can legitimately
3,700 pieces were sold in 11 days. It's not like hot cakes?
--I'm not sure. UPS CN->France for 1Kg is 700+RMB (around 90€) 4 days
If you have large volumes of production/sending, you can buy postal batches cheepest.
100$ for delivery (0.5 kg) - too expensive IMO. Bitmain sends L3+ (4.4 kg) with PSU (3 kg) to me via DHL (3 days) for 180$
I'm not sure.UPS CN->France for 1Kg is 700+RMB (around 90€) 4 days
For 3kg it's 1200RMB so around 160€
Seems accurate to me
https://wwwapps.ups.com/ctc/request?loc=en_CN
I'm up for a review too if you want to send me one.
10W for 3.5kh/s honestly sounds too good to be true, at 315€ even more so.
You'd be selling these like hot cakes if you just get one of us one of these Dwarf boards so we can legitimately say it's the real day. And even if whoever you send it too runs away with it, it's a small loss. As someone said before, just get a senior or a hero member on here.
10W for 3.5kh/s honestly sounds too good to be true, at 315€ even more so.
You'd be selling these like hot cakes if you just get one of us one of these Dwarf boards so we can legitimately say it's the real day. And even if whoever you send it too runs away with it, it's a small loss. As someone said before, just get a senior or a hero member on here.
100$ for delivery (0.5 kg) - too expensive IMO. Bitmain sends L3+ (4.4 kg) with PSU (3 kg) to me via DHL (3 days) for 180$
why will you not send me any working model to verify to the community that this is legitimate?
I already proposed this on page 2 or 3... his answer literally was "I dont need to verify legitimacy because these will sell anyway"
... so ..yeah. 21 pages later, this ranks 15/10 in the scam-o-meter.
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