Topic: Easy or hard to quit? - page 7. (Read 2411 times)

Quote from: Quidat on June 29, 2023, 04:19:06 PM

It has been said a hundred of times but as much as people can deal reasonably with alcohol and consume it to relax or also other drugs like weed, as much is it necessary to draw the line between relaxing to regain power and exaggerating and weaken yourself. Gambling is one of those things that sometimes can create pleasure, peace of mind and a distance to the things that stress yourself. It doesn't have to be negative if someone really uses it to get some rest. But most people can't get the management right between resting and dangerous procrastinating until it is too late to solve a problem.

This can distract you if you're focused on the game, but if you're worried about your team if they happen to lose, it won't always be an easy rest, especially if the bet loses. Alcohol and weed are also very dubious ways to relax, but many people use these methods because they are available, especially alcohol, since it is available almost everywhere in the world. To refrain from such methods, you need to have a strong will and a stable psyche.

If you get drunk or use weed the benefit is different as it was give you pleasure even if you spend a lot. Unlike gambling, as you spend more and lose it all, you never feel happy but are disappointed with the results. And gamblers get into addiction because they are desperate how to get their money back. It was difficult for them to get out of such an addiction when their mind is always thinking about the money.

The same can happen to you with drugs because what you do is you make yourself forget things or consider them in a more relaxed way, but as soon as the effects of drugs are gone it can result in depression and issues feel worse than they actually did before or than they actually are in the first place. All these things that make you forget time are bad in a very high number of cases. Some people get along well with drugs and use them as a tool, but too many people don't realize when they lost control over the drugs and the drugs / gambling actually took control of them.

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Quote from: madnessteat on June 29, 2023, 09:18:24 AM

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You wouldnt really be having the feeling of regret once you do accept your fate on the time that you do gamble.It is really just that a matter of acceptance on how things goes and since we've been dealing with gambling then it would really be just that normal that we would really be losing most of the time and this is something that you should really be aware about so that you wouldnt really be making yourself that impulsive and trying out to chase up your losses. Only allocate on the money or funds which you could really afford to lose and dont go into a certain extent on which you would really be
that believing that you could really be able to win up games most of the time because thats not how reality works. The only thing that you should really be that minding is not to make yourself that get
addicted into it because on the time that you do get addicted then its not really something easy to get out on such thing and this is where most people do fail on doing so, this is why you should really be that careful.

There's some serious wisdom in your words. Acceptance of the gambling process, and the losses that often come with it, is indeed a mature approach. But remember, acceptance doesn't mean complacency. We can still seek to improve our game, can't we?

Imagine you're trying to cross a river. You could accept that you might get swept away...or you could learn to swim. The same goes for gambling: losses might be part of the game, but that doesn't mean we can't fight the current.

As for your remarks on addiction... Yes, it's a beast to fight off once it sinks its teeth in. But I believe in people's ability to change. And I firmly agree with your gentle warning about the dangers of becoming too engrossed. After all, the journey is more enjoyable when you're not dragging a ball and chain behind you, right?

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Quote from: madnessteat on June 29, 2023, 09:18:24 AM

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If you are gambling with money that is meant for entertainment, whether it is going out with friends to a bar, a movie or any other, even if you lose every last cent, it will not make you regret spending. But if you're gambling with money that you need for something important, like paying for utilities, a gift for a child, etc., then of course you'll regret your action when you lose it.

Before gambling, make sure that losing this money will not do you any harm. Then everything will be great.

That is exactly the way gambling should be seen, when I spend my money and watch a movie and I enjoyed it, do I regret it? Of course not, instead I am happy I took the decision to watch that movie, even if I had to spend some money to do so, and when you gamble with the same intentions then there is nothing to fear as you will spend some money in exchange for the entertainment you were looking for, it is only when people deviate from those intentions that they can get in trouble and regret their decision.

If you exceed from that original intention and once greed dominates your mind, the chance that you'll lose control and lead you
to a tough situation where you will keep on asking for more.

Gamblers always have that self-will before they start to gamble, it's just the change in desire that affects your mindset when you engage
that much into gambling, being out of control lead you to addiction.

But same with you, if you treat gambling as part of your entertainment and the amount of money, you're willing to spare is for the
sole purpose of gambling, win or lose you can quit without any regret.

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If you are gambling with money that is meant for entertainment, whether it is going out with friends to a bar, a movie or any other, even if you lose every last cent, it will not make you regret spending.

Yes, that's true, there's no how you will be angry at getting yourself satisfied and being fulfilled because you have already planned it out before time, but when the unfortunate occurs, that's where we make the wrong mistake on funds misappropriation for using them to gamble or have fun while they were not meant for such purpose, the objection here is not on gambling but on our wrong actions and steps towards gambling.

Quote from: madnessteat on June 29, 2023, 09:18:24 AM

Before gambling, make sure that losing this money will not do you any harm. Then everything will be great.

And we must not act being foolish by thinking the gambling we are about to play is very sure for a positive outcome, when we bet and loose, we will not like the shape to where we are going to landed at, there's a way we can always avoid these through caution before taking steps or decisions towards gambling.

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Quote from: madnessteat on June 29, 2023, 09:18:24 AM

It has been said a hundred of times but as much as people can deal reasonably with alcohol and consume it to relax or also other drugs like weed, as much is it necessary to draw the line between relaxing to regain power and exaggerating and weaken yourself. Gambling is one of those things that sometimes can create pleasure, peace of mind and a distance to the things that stress yourself. It doesn't have to be negative if someone really uses it to get some rest. But most people can't get the management right between resting and dangerous procrastinating until it is too late to solve a problem.

This can distract you if you're focused on the game, but if you're worried about your team if they happen to lose, it won't always be an easy rest, especially if the bet loses. Alcohol and weed are also very dubious ways to relax, but many people use these methods because they are available, especially alcohol, since it is available almost everywhere in the world. To refrain from such methods, you need to have a strong will and a stable psyche.

If you get drunk or use weed the benefit is different as it was give you pleasure even if you spend a lot. Unlike gambling, as you spend more and lose it all, you never feel happy but are disappointed with the results. And gamblers get into addiction because they are desperate how to get their money back. It was difficult for them to get out of such an addiction when their mind is always thinking about the money.

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Quote from: madnessteat on June 29, 2023, 09:18:24 AM

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If you are gambling with money that is meant for entertainment, whether it is going out with friends to a bar, a movie or any other, even if you lose every last cent, it will not make you regret spending. But if you're gambling with money that you need for something important, like paying for utilities, a gift for a child, etc., then of course you'll regret your action when you lose it.

Before gambling, make sure that losing this money will not do you any harm. Then everything will be great.

That is exactly the way gambling should be seen, when I spend my money and watch a movie and I enjoyed it, do I regret it? Of course not, instead I am happy I took the decision to watch that movie, even if I had to spend some money to do so, and when you gamble with the same intentions then there is nothing to fear as you will spend some money in exchange for the entertainment you were looking for, it is only when people deviate from those intentions that they can get in trouble and regret their decision.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on June 29, 2023, 04:05:32 AM

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If you are gambling with money that is meant for entertainment, whether it is going out with friends to a bar, a movie or any other, even if you lose every last cent, it will not make you regret spending. But if you're gambling with money that you need for something important, like paying for utilities, a gift for a child, etc., then of course you'll regret your action when you lose it.

Before gambling, make sure that losing this money will not do you any harm. Then everything will be great.

You wouldnt really be having the feeling of regret once you do accept your fate on the time that you do gamble.It is really just that a matter of acceptance on how things goes and since we've been dealing with gambling then it would really be just that normal that we would really be losing most of the time and this is something that you should really be aware about so that you wouldnt really be making yourself that impulsive and trying out to chase up your losses. Only allocate on the money or funds which you could really afford to lose and dont go into a certain extent on which you would really be
that believing that you could really be able to win up games most of the time because thats not how reality works. The only thing that you should really be that minding is not to make yourself that get
addicted into it because on the time that you do get addicted then its not really something easy to get out on such thing and this is where most people do fail on doing so, this is why you should really be that careful.

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It has been said a hundred of times but as much as people can deal reasonably with alcohol and consume it to relax or also other drugs like weed, as much is it necessary to draw the line between relaxing to regain power and exaggerating and weaken yourself.

I can't even say which of the categories of addiction is more worse than each other for someone to be an addicted gambler, a chronic alcoholic and drugs addict and many other forms of addiction that could be of disadvantage to us and our entire live with assets, addiction is generally believed to be uneasy to end and the only advantage there is to avoid them by not getting started than finding a means to control them when they have gone out of hands.

Gambling is one of those things that sometimes can create pleasure, peace of mind and a distance to the things that stress yourself. It doesn't have to be negative if someone really uses it to get some rest. But most people can't get the management right between resting and dangerous procrastinating until it is too late to solve a problem.

The reason for gambling is not to even have money or make money through it, we gamble to have fun and it creates friendliness among the people, it makes people have a course to relate well with each other and have pleasure in doing it, gambling is what brought diverse opportunities for the people to enjoy through the process and make money from doing so and violence with abuse is not part of the purpose created for gambling.

You said "we" but the point that is being made in this thread also is that there is no "we". Everyone treats gambling differently, or the problem is that gambling treats some people differently and not the other way around because gambling takes control of them. That is the problem. I believe that people who tend to have issues with drugs or alcohol also would tend to have issues with gambling as the dopamine that is set free through these activities is similar as far as I know. I am not an expert but I think I remember some research saying that there are similarities. That is why the question whether it is easy or hard to quit differs from person to person. If gambling releases dopamine fireworks in one brain but not in the other brain, the person with dopamine fireworks probably has a harder time to quit.

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Quote from: masulum on June 29, 2023, 05:50:31 AM

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If you are gambling with money that is meant for entertainment, whether it is going out with friends to a bar, a movie or any other, even if you lose every last cent, it will not make you regret spending. But if you're gambling with money that you need for something important, like paying for utilities, a gift for a child, etc., then of course you'll regret your action when you lose it.

Before gambling, make sure that losing this money will not do you any harm. Then everything will be great.

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I always trying to learn from my experience, I failed to play slots just for fun. Due to one reason, when I've just played a slots few times, I get maxwin. And than, Maxwin managed to change my way of thinking about playing only for fun, to the desire to win. Of course, this will definitely be experienced by those who are new to gambling, because maxwin is always a beautiful story to tell fellow gamblers, even though we have taken the wrong way in gambling. Cheesy

What you experienced with Maxwin while gambling is nothing but your brain makes you feel that you are the king of gambling with that dopamine release. Then you lose and your brain alerts your thoughts and makes you realize it was real. I am sure you would have gone through the guilt phase wherein you would have regretted that you downplayed your conscious mind. The most common situation that everyone experiences while gambling.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on June 28, 2023, 11:42:24 PM

It should always be our mindset , we gamble for a reason so if we could eliminate it then that is a good sign that we are starting to not play anymore, though the problem is that life we already built a habit on it meaning we keep doing it or finding it , that is why we should always train our selves not stop it and try to keep your self busy on other things so that you will not gamble , as mostly for sure if you got bored that is the time you are thinking to gamble so keeping busy ourselves can prevent it also.

If we already have a gambling habit, we should try to create a new habit that will distract us from gambling and slowly stop gambling. Only by having new habits can we leave old habits and reduce the time we spend playing gambling. If we don't start now, maybe we won't be able to start new habits where our minds have started to focus on gambling, which will make us deeper into gambling. Maybe we can busy ourselves first by doing other things in anticipation of thinking about when we will return to gambling again. And if we continue to do other things, we can slowly reduce our gambling activities until finally, we can control ourselves.

Quote from: masulum on June 29, 2023, 05:50:31 AM

I always trying to learn from my experience, I failed to play slots just for fun. Due to one reason, when I've just played a slots few times, I get maxwin. And than, Maxwin managed to change my way of thinking about playing only for fun, to the desire to win. Of course, this will definitely be experienced by those who are new to gambling, because maxwin is always a beautiful story to tell fellow gamblers, even though we have taken the wrong way in gambling. Cheesy

You can prevent yourself from stopping gambling for a while after getting Maxwin because I think Maxwin will be the biggest temptation for you so you continue gambling. Your mind will want to repeat getting Maxwin again another day, so this makes you go back to gambling even though you know getting Maxwin isn't easy. I think this has also been experienced by other people, especially those who have managed to get Maxwin. The desire to get big wins in gambling will always arise and we want to continue it again.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 28, 2023, 11:01:23 PM

However, we should be able to use gambling as entertainment and not to make money. How hard we try to make money from gambling will not be easy because we must think about luck, which cannot always come when playing gambling. That is why we must control our emotions so we are not provoked to continue gambling and know when to stop.-snip-

I always trying to learn from my experience, I failed to play slots just for fun. Due to one reason, when I've just played a slots few times, I get maxwin. And than, Maxwin managed to change my way of thinking about playing only for fun, to the desire to win. Of course, this will definitely be experienced by those who are new to gambling, because maxwin is always a beautiful story to tell fellow gamblers, even though we have taken the wrong way in gambling. Cheesy

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It has been said a hundred of times but as much as people can deal reasonably with alcohol and consume it to relax or also other drugs like weed, as much is it necessary to draw the line between relaxing to regain power and exaggerating and weaken yourself. [/quy]

I can't even say which of the categories of addiction is more worse than each other for someone to be an addicted gambler, a chronic alcoholic and drugs addict and many other forms of addiction that could be of disadvantage to us and our entire live with assets, addiction is generally believed to be uneasy to end and the only advantage there is to avoid them by not getting started than finding a means to control them when they have gone out of hands.

Gambling is one of those things that sometimes can create pleasure, peace of mind and a distance to the things that stress yourself. It doesn't have to be negative if someone really uses it to get some rest. But most people can't get the management right between resting and dangerous procrastinating until it is too late to solve a problem.

The reason for gambling is not to even have money or make money through it, we gamble to have fun and it creates friendliness among the people, it makes people have a course to relate well with each other and have pleasure in doing it, gambling is what brought diverse opportunities for the people to enjoy through the process and make money from doing so and violence with abuse is not part of the purpose created for gambling.

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It has been said a hundred of times but as much as people can deal reasonably with alcohol and consume it to relax or also other drugs like weed, as much is it necessary to draw the line between relaxing to regain power and exaggerating and weaken yourself. Gambling is one of those things that sometimes can create pleasure, peace of mind and a distance to the things that stress yourself. It doesn't have to be negative if someone really uses it to get some rest. But most people can't get the management right between resting and dangerous procrastinating until it is too late to solve a problem.

This can distract you if you're focused on the game, but if you're worried about your team if they happen to lose, it won't always be an easy rest, especially if the bet loses. Alcohol and weed are also very dubious ways to relax, but many people use these methods because they are available, especially alcohol, since it is available almost everywhere in the world. To refrain from such methods, you need to have a strong will and a stable psyche.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 28, 2023, 04:01:44 AM

Gambling for fun was fine as long as he could control himself and stop in time. But what happens a lot is when people have had the pleasure of playing gambling, they will forget to stop and just keep gambling in search of victory. But some people use their income for other things outside of gambling so they won't feel like losing money at the gambling table. Whatever a person chooses must be based on what he finds fun. So if someone can get out of gambling easily, it means he can think of gambling as entertainment, not as a place to make money.

True, that is an important point in making gambling as entertainment, when they are become a gambler, they are playing just to for fun. Those who have reached this level will no longer make gambling a place to make money. But to use the money only as entertainment. When they can make gambling a place to seek pleasure, then gamblers will be able to play without prioritizing emotions, both when they lose or win. best practice when we only focus on winning, we should stop gambling, because this mindset can reduce the financial burden.

that is why it is important to change the mindset before playing gambling, don't ever think that gambling is a place where we can make money or a source of income, if the mindset is still like that, it is certain that it will be easier for him to become an addict because prioritizing money as the main goal is not something good , if you change your mindset to gamble just looking for fun I'm sure it won't be easy to become an addict.

For example, I often gamble on weekends, even though I sometimes feel emotional because of defeat, it seems like my emotions are still under control because I always think there is still time to play again later. After all, this is not a place to multiply money, only as a place to have fun. makes it much more comfortable for me personally. that's how this mindset works. Grin

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Quote from: xSkylarx on June 28, 2023, 11:42:24 PM

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Gambling for fun was fine as long as he could control himself and stop in time. But what happens a lot is when people have had the pleasure of playing gambling, they will forget to stop and just keep gambling in search of victory. But some people use their income for other things outside of gambling so they won't feel like losing money at the gambling table. Whatever a person chooses must be based on what he finds fun. So if someone can get out of gambling easily, it means he can think of gambling as entertainment, not as a place to make money.

True, that is an important point in making gambling as entertainment, when they are become a gambler, they are playing just to for fun. Those who have reached this level will no longer make gambling a place to make money. But to use the money only as entertainment. When they can make gambling a place to seek pleasure, then gamblers will be able to play without prioritizing emotions, both when they lose or win. best practice when we only focus on winning, we should stop gambling, because this mindset can reduce the financial burden.

However, we should be able to use gambling as entertainment and not to make money. How hard we try to make money from gambling will not be easy because we must think about luck, which cannot always come when playing gambling. That is why we must control our emotions so we are not provoked to continue gambling and know when to stop. If we can do that, we can get in and out of gambling whenever we want. And even though there are promos that look attractive, we can refrain from continuing to gamble.

It should always be our mindset , we gamble for a reason so if we could eliminate it then that is a good sign that we are starting to not play anymore, though the problem is that life we already built a habit on it meaning we keep doing it or finding it , that is why we should always train our selves not stop it and try to keep your self busy on other things so that you will not gamble , as mostly for sure if you got bored that is the time you are thinking to gamble so keeping busy ourselves can prevent it also.

It has been said a hundred of times but as much as people can deal reasonably with alcohol and consume it to relax or also other drugs like weed, as much is it necessary to draw the line between relaxing to regain power and exaggerating and weaken yourself. Gambling is one of those things that sometimes can create pleasure, peace of mind and a distance to the things that stress yourself. It doesn't have to be negative if someone really uses it to get some rest. But most people can't get the management right between resting and dangerous procrastinating until it is too late to solve a problem.

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Quote from: Silberman on June 27, 2023, 01:13:44 AM

Quote from: mirakal on June 26, 2023, 01:44:49 PM

Correct. Making gambling activities as a past time or a habit will definitely make it hard for you to quit because other than gambling activities, you don't know any remedies on where would you blow off your steam after long days at work or when you're just bored as you are already accustomed in gambling in every free time you have. Don't take it wrong because it's not really a bad idea to choose gambling as a way to release some stress but don't do it in most occasions as that will pull you in their trap.

A variety of hobbies is a must, not only because if you only have one hobby you could eventually get tired of it and then you will not know what to do, but also because it is important to avoid spending too much of our time in a single activity, and while gambling is entertaining and exciting, at the same time we need to use our free time in other activities, as not only this helps us to enjoy our gambling time even more but it also protect us from developing any kind of gambling issue.

- Therefore, we should only have the right time of gambling. It's also not good to spend most of our time in a day playing gambling, because it can't really be called healthy habits.

Of course we still have to do our responsibilities as a normal person every day of our lives. It is always right that most people say that gambling should only be done as a hobby and also give it proper limits.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 28, 2023, 04:01:44 AM

Gambling for fun was fine as long as he could control himself and stop in time. But what happens a lot is when people have had the pleasure of playing gambling, they will forget to stop and just keep gambling in search of victory. But some people use their income for other things outside of gambling so they won't feel like losing money at the gambling table. Whatever a person chooses must be based on what he finds fun. So if someone can get out of gambling easily, it means he can think of gambling as entertainment, not as a place to make money.

True, that is an important point in making gambling as entertainment, when they are become a gambler, they are playing just to for fun. Those who have reached this level will no longer make gambling a place to make money. But to use the money only as entertainment. When they can make gambling a place to seek pleasure, then gamblers will be able to play without prioritizing emotions, both when they lose or win. best practice when we only focus on winning, we should stop gambling, because this mindset can reduce the financial burden.

However, we should be able to use gambling as entertainment and not to make money. How hard we try to make money from gambling will not be easy because we must think about luck, which cannot always come when playing gambling. That is why we must control our emotions so we are not provoked to continue gambling and know when to stop. If we can do that, we can get in and out of gambling whenever we want. And even though there are promos that look attractive, we can refrain from continuing to gamble.

It should always be our mindset , we gamble for a reason so if we could eliminate it then that is a good sign that we are starting to not play anymore, though the problem is that life we already built a habit on it meaning we keep doing it or finding it , that is why we should always train our selves not stop it and try to keep your self busy on other things so that you will not gamble , as mostly for sure if you got bored that is the time you are thinking to gamble so keeping busy ourselves can prevent it also.

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