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legendary
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April 08, 2015, 04:57:51 AM
One final post on this topic. We both have other things to do.

My dislike of anonymity arises not from government but from the blinding of individuals to each other. Anonymity creates a money without any identity. In so doing it inadvertently weakens all of the bonds that hold society together. A truly anonymous money will allow the very worst in humanity to thrive and grow. In circumventing government you simultaneously circumvent all of the group and social controls we use to limit evil in our fellow man.

Nonsense. All the trades I did before that required my physical presence still will require I reveal who I am when I show up physically. And those that didn't require my physical presense are no more anonymous than sending a postal letter in the past.

A lot of horrific things can be funded that do not require a physical presence.

 
You are hiding behind trade. Human trafficking is not voluntary prostitution. It is not trade but theft. Human trafficking implies violence, force, and coercion.

I have personal knowledge that females enter into these situations wilfully and even with determination! I have even begged some of them not to do it! And I am talking about ladies as old as 30, who know better.

You are conflating voluntary prostitution with human trafficking.

The last word is yours.

 
newbie
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April 08, 2015, 04:46:25 AM
I need to go for my second 2 km run of the day in the hot sun. I hope this is the last I need to write.


My dislike of anonymity arises not from government but from the blinding of individuals to each other. Anonymity creates a money without any identity. In so doing it inadvertently weakens all of the bonds that hold society together. A truly anonymous money will allow the very worst in humanity to thrive and grow. In circumventing government you simultaneously circumvent all of the group and social controls we use to limit evil in our fellow man.

Nonsense. All the trades I did before that required my physical presence still will require I reveal who I am when I show up physically. And those that didn't require my physical presense are no more anonymous than sending a postal letter (or other means of transmitting cash without my face-to-face appearance) in the past.


You are hiding behind trade. Human trafficking is not voluntary prostitution. It is not trade but theft. Human trafficking implies violence, force, and coercion.

I have personal knowledge that females enter into these situations wilfully and even with determination! I have even begged some of them not to do it! And I am talking about ladies as old as 30, who know better.

Go into the real world and not just what you see on TV.

For example, you can find a documentary about a bar owner arrested in Angeles City for employing minors in prostitution, but the thing is those same ladies or their cousins were right back working the next week, because that is what they want (or need) to do. They are wilfully doing it.

Go try to bribe those ladies from Samar not to go work in Angeles City! You learn what the word "parasite" means. Then maybe you will have a better appreciation for reality.

I am not saying that bar owner wasn't a jerk. Clearly he was and deserved his fate. But we are talking here about how you are repulsed by things that are trade and natural, which is the overriding point.

I am not at all against you or anyone doing economic activities to provide jobs for people that would otherwise fall into situations where they would accept a trade that you think is slavery.

Hey working in a factory is more like slavery than working in a bar in Angeles City. The ladies who work in the bar make a lot more money, have more freedom, work less hours, eat better, etc..

I know personally a 24-year old lady who used to work in a factory and then couldn't handle the grueling conditions so now she works in a bar in Angeles City.

The State classifies "arranged marriage" as human trafficking.

Only if one of the parties does not consent to the marriage.
Human trafficking = violence by definition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking

The 12 - 16 year old ladies in traditional arranged married are not consenting. Their elders made a decision and that was it.

I am not saying I want that for my child, but I am not going to tell other cultures and communities what they should do.

Also the State will twist their interpretations in bizarre ways as well.
legendary
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April 08, 2015, 04:41:23 AM
The State classifies "arranged marriage" as human trafficking.

Only if one of the parties does not consent to the marriage.
Human trafficking = violence by definition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking
newbie
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April 08, 2015, 04:37:15 AM
The State classifies "arranged marriage" as human trafficking.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/03/24/learning-to-love/

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During the 18th century, typically the man was twice the age of his bride. Why? Because he first had to get the farm, chickens, cows, etc., and show that he was a good provider. If he went to the prospective bide’s father and said he wanted to marry her, if he responded to what are your qualification, oh nothing, I just love her. That would have been a good laugh and he would have been lucky not to be injured by the door when slammed shut.

The age difference decline to 25-33% older during the 19th century, but it was not until Hollywood got a hold of marriage and turned LUST into love at first sight that age came down to just a couple of years. Men mature slower than women so the divorce rate skyrocketed as girls expecting to marry men discovered they were still boys.

The arranged marriages actually performed better than those anticipating love at first sight in present times overseas. There was a deeper connection of compassion. A realization that there was a team...
legendary
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April 08, 2015, 04:35:49 AM
Trade is not dark. It is light. You are repulsed that there are disparaties between individuals. Actually women marry for financial reasons, not for love. Trafficking for sex is a natural feature of nature. Some men abuse it (and they suffer), and others may learn to nurture (and they prosper). Free trade and economics work.

You are hiding behind trade. Human trafficking is not voluntary prostitution. It is not trade but theft. Human trafficking implies violence, force, and coercion. If there is any trade at all it is between two males and it is a trade of someone they force to do their will through fear violence and intimidation.


    
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April 08, 2015, 04:24:40 AM
Trade is not dark. It is light. You are repulsed that there are disparaties between individuals. Actually women historically married for financial reasons, not for "love". Trafficking for sex is a natural feature of nature. Some men abuse it (and they suffer), and others may learn to nurture (and they prosper). Free trade and economics work.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/06/14/economic-decline-returning-marriage-to-historical-norms/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/05/05/birth-rate-declines-with-higher-taxes-is-hollywood-to-blame-for-divorce/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/03/24/learning-to-love/

We need men to compete for the women. That is how we raise prosperity. If all the men become effeminate and don't compete, we have social collapse.

They've polluted your rationality with feminism.

You may have to learn the hard way that your female offspring can not be men. If you raise them to be men, you will be disappointed. And if you raise them with the false life plan, don't be surprised at what you get:

http://blog.jim.com/culture/the-false-life-plan/

http://blog.jim.com/economics/the-future-belongs-to-those-that-show-up/

http://blog.jim.com/images/JapanFert4.png

also both unquestionably evil.

Evil is eugenics. Such as the chart above.

Without trade, that is what you Marxists achieve.
legendary
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April 08, 2015, 04:19:19 AM
The banksers and legal tender is a natural top-down outcome.
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human trafficking, which is a bottom-up economic arrangement.

I agree that both arise naturally and spontaneously from the darkness that is humanity.
So both are natural to a degree. They are also both unquestionably evil.
You can attempt to justify either with the same natural selection,  survival-of-the-fittest, maximizing resilience argument if you wish.

Cancer is natural too
newbie
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April 08, 2015, 04:04:00 AM
There is that Marxist subconscious conflating reality with delusional ideological fantasy to justify hating nature.

The banksers and legal tender is a natural top-down outcome. Driven primarily by 3 facts of nature:

1. Unit-of-account will always naturally be the most widely held currency.

2. Humans love debt so they can get what they want before they work for it.

3. Iron Law of Collective Political Economics.

We have always had private money and blackmarkets as escape valves from their absolute control.

Now both of you conflate monetary enslavement with human trafficking, which rather is a bottom-up economic arrangement between private individuals. Human trafficking is trade. You may not like it, but the participants find it to be their best economic option. If you want to help, then go work hard to raise the prosperity of those who would enter into such an economic trade (not using the State to expropriate to subsidize, e.g. the Goldman Sachs Prime Minister and Central Bank head in India instituting widespread poverty alleviation via government subsidies will fail horrifically one day!), so that they won't need to.

This kind of sloppy conflation doesn't impress me. How can you ever be entrusted to not do crazy shit like genetic filtering of society, when you can't even get basic logic correct. Grrrr.

P.S. Fundamentally you don't seem to appreciate that if nature was a uniform distribution, then nothing would exist! There will be no contrast and no change would be possible. Nothing could move. Nothing could evolve. The entire point of disparaties is they enable trade! If one group had everything they needed, then they would never trade with the others! Duh!

i agree with your point so much

Because you are a Marxist idiot! Hordes of you in the West and that is why the West can not reform. It must crash and burn.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/10/01/what-socialism-destroyed-govt-shutdown/

It is not only what Armstrong wrote about, but also the mindset of Westerners have been subconsciously programmed with this ideological delusion nonsense. Westerners have lost their ability to think critically and rationally.
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April 08, 2015, 03:47:37 AM
I am repulsed by people who are repulsed by human trafficking, because they are anti-competition, anti-resilience, and thus pro-eugenics (your links to junk science supporting genetic filtering of society was very Nazi-like scary underlying subconscious). Afaik, you are genuinely repulsed by human trafficking. Rather I see it as nature's way of competition and evolution, i.e. survival-of-the-fittest. I see it as a beautiful system of maximizing resilience. I think more like a native in this aspect, i.e. I want to live in harmony with nature. I am not referring to the Marxism of the Mexican Aztec society which did human sacrifice to purify the society.

Most people who support slavery would support our current system. This is the same argument that a banker would use as he justified the use of fiat currency and fractional reserve.

Human trafficking: the trade of humans, most commonly for the purpose of sexual slavery, forced labor or commercial sexual exploitation for the trafficker or others

i agree with your point so much
legendary
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April 08, 2015, 03:43:37 AM
I am repulsed by people who are repulsed by human trafficking, because they are anti-competition, anti-resilience, and thus pro-eugenics (your links to junk science supporting genetic filtering of society was very Nazi-like scary underlying subconscious). Afaik, you are genuinely repulsed by human trafficking. Rather I see it as nature's way of competition and evolution, i.e. survival-of-the-fittest. I see it as a beautiful system of maximizing resilience. I think more like a native in this aspect, i.e. I want to live in harmony with nature. I am not referring to the Marxism of the Mexican Aztec society which did human sacrifice to purify the society.

Most people who support slavery would support our current system. This is the same argument that a banker would use as he justified the use of fiat currency and fractional reserve.

Human trafficking: the trade of humans, most commonly for the purpose of sexual slavery, forced labor or commercial sexual exploitation for the trafficker or others
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April 08, 2015, 03:29:34 AM
CoinCube, thank you for categorically denying certain things. This is important. So let's make sure we've resolved this before I leave. There is still a problem around the word "repulsive" that we can't just ignore, if we want to truly understand our different thought processes.

I am repulsed by people who are repulsed by human trafficking, because they are anti-competition, anti-resilience, and thus pro-eugenics (your links to junk science supporting genetic filtering of society was very Nazi-like scary underlying subconscious). Afaik, you are genuinely repulsed by human trafficking. Rather I see it as nature's way of competition and evolution, i.e. survival-of-the-fittest. I see it as a beautiful system of maximizing resilience. I think more like a native in this aspect, i.e. I want to live in harmony with nature. I am not referring to the Marxism of the Mexican Aztec society which did human sacrifice to purify the society.

I am not at all against Silk Road and will do my best programming (soon!) to make sure the authorities can't bring those sites down again, as they did for the broken Tor hidden services. I hate drugs! I am all for local communities banning them and I even support my local Mayor's alleged vigilante solution to eliminate drug dealing in Davao City! But I am not going to support a global unified ban and unified command police force (Interpol) on anything, not even against paedophilia, because the costs to society are too high (extinction).

If you want to be a sheepdog and protect potential (or prior) victims, then have at it with your individual resources, but please don't ask the State to expropriate from me to support your ideals, because I do not agree that subsidizing competition is competition, thus it is anti-resilience. If you want to get out there and compete to lead people to prosperity and better lives, then do it! Don't use the State as crutch which is the antithesis of the goal you espouse! There are no shortcuts to success and happiness. Competition is good. Collectivism (beyond certain organization necessities, e.g. convergence of building shared roads) is evil. Local collectivism isn't evil (well maybe inhibiting and annoying in some instances) in small communities within the real Dunbar limit of where everyone in the community can track personally in detail what the others are doing which might be corruption.

Am I repulsed by horrific, heinous crimes such as the following? Hell yes! I would probably personally kill both of them if I am put in prison with them (or at least that is how I felt when I first read the following). Thus again I don't agree with your non-violence creed, because there are times when violence is required. Non-violence is another discord with nature, anti-competitive, and anti-resilience. But much better these two men meet their fate at the hands of other individual men who decide they violated even the lowest common denominator morals of fellow convicts, and not a State death penalty.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/aus-man-charged-over-philippines-murder/story-fn3dxiwe-1227207495702
https://www.google.com/search?q=scully+pedophile

Because a State is often wrong (99% conviction rate in the USA, 10X higher incarceration rate per capita than China!):

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/04/alabama-death-row-anthony-ray-hilton

The following one I wasn't so repulsed, because the ladyboy fooled and entrapped him (ostensibly for money and I have experience with the ladyboys aggressively trying to seduce me quite unsuccessfully I might add). I think he deserves a 2nd or 3rd degree murder sentence, not 1st degree. Also I am pretty sure the family just wants money and it will be settled with a payment under the table:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/u-s-marine-custody-killing-transgender-filipino-met-disco-report-article-1.1972258

What do I mean by competition? Again refer to my seminal articles in the opening post and also the latter one:

http://unheresy.com/Information%20Is%20Alive.html#Knowledge_Anneals

So as we get down to the nuts and bolts of this, I am repulsed that (if??) you are repulsed by nature. I love nature. I want to retain nature. Your subconcious appears to be more aligned with Ted Turner and his Georgia Guidestones and desire to buy up all the land to turn into a non-use, preserve as follows. If I am mistaken, please clarify and hopefully you have the last word (and you know friend I want to be in harmony with you, but people who are repulsed by nature are in discord with me so I am just being frank for clarity):

...

http://kwout.com/cutout/n/vt/pa/z8p_bor.jpghttp://kwout.com/cutout/f/g3/zx/5az_bor.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones#Inscriptions

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Georgia_Guidestones_06.jpg/220px-Georgia_Guidestones_06.jpg    Maintain humanity under 0.5 billion [14/15ths of all people must culled] in perpetual balance with nature.
    Guide reproduction wisely [removing the right to bear children freely] — improving fitness and diversity.
    Unite humanity [in a new world order] with a living new language.
    Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason [imposed by a one-world reserve currency and court].
    Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
    Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a [one-]world court.
    Avoid petty laws and useless [local] officials.
    Balance personal rights with social duties.
    Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
    Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature [i.e. cull the human population of all those who will not be slaves].

...

legendary
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April 08, 2015, 02:21:15 AM
I find it heinously repugnant that you (or any Marxist) think you have a right to impose upon me a State that has an exclusive monopoly on the use of force.

You do not respect the individual's right to live in freedom. You want to top-down control society.

you are attempting to murder me or my genetic offspring.

You desire to track me like a cow.

Humm where to start.
Not sure I agree with much of this last post. I quoted the areas of particular disagreement above.

Just to clarify I support gun rights and oppose registration largely because I prefer the government monopoly on the use of force to be weak.
I believe top-down control of society should be minimized and ideally forever shrinking.  
I am opposed to capital punishment as I do not believe the government should have the authority to end life.
I do not particularly desire to track anyone. I want the patriot act repealed and I believe Edward Snowden is a hero.

You are mistaking reluctant support with opposition. I suggest focusing on different parts of my prior remarks.

Anonymity is a desperate and somewhat repulsive solution. Unfortunately I have no better or even viable alternatives to offer.        


Filipinos have it about perfectly in balance. Stop the heinous crime, but fuck the pedantic, agonizing rules and always take the most efficient route from point A to B. And thus keep your individual freedoms.
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Singapore is perfect for you with their perfectionist straight-jacket rules. Fuck that! Singapore can kiss my fucking ass.

The optimal balance of structure to promote efficiency versus freedom to promote creativity is subjective and boils down to personal preference. Ideally let the communities decide and allow people to migrate between them.

Why are you so God damn worried if people can exist without being cattle-branded with a number and can trade cash anonymously, as they ALWAYS COULD DO THROUGHOUT 6000 YEARS OF HISTORY UNTIL NOW!

I am just wanting to retain the freedom we always had before the internet and digital age.

Why is it that you find it repugnant that we humans would have the balance-of-power against the State, that we always had for the past 6000 years? Why do you want the digital age to give more power to the State than we always had?

There is nothing repugnant about the ability to trade without the government being aware of the transaction. As you said this simply restores the balance of power that has been present historically. My opposition to anonymity arises not from government but from the blinding of individuals to each other. Anonymity creates a money without any identity. In so doing it inadvertently weakens all of the bonds that hold society together. A truly anonymous money will allow the very worst in humanity to thrive and grow. In circumventing government you simultaneously circumvent all of the group and social controls we use to limit evil in our fellow man.
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April 08, 2015, 12:10:47 AM
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Subject: Why the West can't reform; also another tribute to Martin Armstrong
From:    "Shelby Moore III" (a.k.a. repugnant, wearefucked, iamback, AnonyMint, etc)
Date:    Wed, April 8, 2015 12:43 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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Please click here to read this forum post in context, because there are 3 images and a lot of bold and underline emphasis:

I hope this is my final communication on this. I wanted to clarify and condense to achieve razor sharp reader comprehension.


Anonymity is a desperate and somewhat repulsive solution. Unfortunately I have no better or even viable alternatives to offer.        

Clarification of my vehement reaction is necessary.

I find it heinously repugnant that you (or any Marxist) think you have a right to impose upon me a State that has an exclusive monopoly on the use of force.

You do not respect the individual's right to live in freedom. You want to top-down control society.

All your talk of "balance" makes me want to vomit, when you seem to ignore the balance that has existed for 6000 years and which you now say is "repulsive".

By doing that and ignoring the 6000 years of history of the State murdering its own citizens when the top-down economics turns intractable (as it always does eventually due to the Iron Law of Political Economics combined with human nature!), you are attempting to murder me or my genetic offspring (my entire evolutionary reason to live). And thus you can expect for me to be as angry as if you held a gun to my or any of my kids' head.

You find it "repulsive" any attempt employing digital anonymity technology to avoid a monopoly which the State never historically had until the digital age. Anonymous cash and the ability to trade in black markets had always existed and only now does the digital age potentially give the State the ability to eliminate all black markets and brand every human like cattle with a number. I believe individuals even had the right to bear arms in those cases where they weren't enslaved by a King or feudal warlord.

You desire to track me like a cow just because you have some delusion that you could eliminate all use of force by humans (e.g. gun control to eliminate an individual's right to self-protection) and somehow turn human nature into some perfect nirvana.

In your delusion, you create a perfect Orwellian hell.

And thus fuck, you piss me off and there is no way I will rest until I protect myself and my evolutionary offspring from your insanity!

If you didn't mean to use the word repulsive, then why did you? You see underlying you have this subconscious Marxist insanity. Remember I warned you about that tendency with your Judging Myers-Briggs personality type. As I wrote to you then, your variant doesn't become the megalomaniacs Stalin, Mao, or Goebbel, but hordes of you closet Marxists causally brings those totalitarians to power.

Marxists couch their insane idealism within the sugar-coated wrapping of "protecting the weak" (or in I335's case "love" and "sharing reputation"), just as the Nazi propaganda did before they eventually turned against the "weak race" and culled it. You could review the transformation of the Nazi propaganda. And I am sure they believed their idealism too. That is the really sick reality of this phenomenon.

Your genuine desire to help and protect those who are weak is honorable and admirable. You've even attempted to help me in my weakened health (Multiple Sclerosis!), but unfortunately the top-down (increasingly totalitarian) medical system to which you ascribe is the one that prevented me from having the information that could have cured me 9 years ago. (note I don't blame you for the medical system) The problem is not your heart, but rather your mental irrationalization which is I posit is evident on a Myers-Briggs personality test as Judging.

CoinCube, I beg of you somehow try to find a cure to this insane tendency to ascribe to top-down solutions to those aspects of human nature and economics (e.g. human trafficking) which pains you. I like you very much as a person and I know your heart is good and not evil. Why does your brain get you caught up in this insanity? You appear to be somewhat effeminate in your one pic I saw, are you easily frightened or do you feel envious or afraid of boisterous, forceful alphamales? Were you bullied in your youth (note I was)? I335, I hold out no hope for him, he appears to be so deep in the insanity, he writes insane incoherent, ideological diatribes. And then you CoinCube latch on to his writings as if you've seen God. That was the reason I was getting incensed with you upthread when you started to support I335's proposals (because I thought all along you were on the side of reason but in hindsight perhaps I should not have so easily discounted the warning sign of your Myers-Briggs personality type). Then I thought maybe I should just STFU and let Marxists gang up to do what they will do.

Human trafficking for example has always existed and will always exist. It is an economic phenomenon. All you can do is protect youself and yours, and help educate others how to protect themselves. If you instead go for the totalitarian non-solution, you will end up in a worse, horrific Orwellian hell (Mao's 57 million exterminated is a prime example).

First the Marxist police State does this (note how they don't want you to see so they quickly cover it):

http://cdn.brownstoner.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/snowden-martyrs-040615.jpg

Then later totalitarians achieve this miraculous accomplishment:

http://i1.wp.com/armstrongeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/statue_planet-of-the-apes.jpeg



Btw, interestingly Armstrong clarified that after 2033 (2032.85 to be precise), the 51.6 year Public wave is contained within a shift to a 309 year Private wave. The Private economy will rise over the next 325 years.

http://i1.wp.com/armstrongeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Economic-Confidence-Model-309-Fractal-6th-Wave.jpg?resize=584%2C395

What set the irascible Finn's blood boiling was kernel developer Steven Rostedt's discovery that when a Linux system is started with the "debug" option enabled, systemd can flood the system's logging services with so much information that it will fail to boot.

"Key, [sic] I'm f*cking tired of the fact that you don't fix problems in the code *you* write, so that the kernel then has to work around the problems you cause," Torvalds fumed, adding that he wouldn't merge any more of Sievers' code into the kernel until he cleans up his act.

Other kernel developers wasted no time proposing solutions to the issue, the leading candidate being to add rate limiting to the kernel logging services so that they truncate excessive output. But Torvalds is notoriously reluctant to make changes to the Linux kernel to address bugs found in other software, and in this case the issue seemed personal.

"It's really sad that things like this get elevated to this kind of situation, and I personally find it annoying that it's always the same f*cking prima donna involved," Torvalds wrote.

He later added on a Google+ thread, "So this really really doesn't make me want to ever work with Kay Sievers, because this all just reinforces the fact that he just doesn't care if his changes cause other projects pain."
legendary
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April 07, 2015, 04:30:18 PM
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wearefucked

I think all of us hope to hear from you again soon.  Please do make sure we hear more about your software in due course.

(I had to scramble my password at Zero Hedge via SHA-256 to actually FORCE myself out)

Good luck and best wishes.

Yep, I hope that anonymint decides to join us again, this thread has been by far my favourite on bitcointalk. Learnt a lot, and it's nice to be made to think once in a while Smiley Gotta say that CoinCube and many other posters on here have been awesome too.

On another note I met a couple of Singaporeans at dinner the other night. They were fascinating and very intelligent, with an excellent understanding of a government's role in (their) society, but were made extremely uncomfortable by the idea of questioning it and fully acknowledged the harsh restrictions under the surface of their society. I hope that they really are smart enough to learn from the West, I'm not so sure that I have that much faith in humanity. I hope I'm wrong and that their pragmatism prevails.
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
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April 06, 2015, 08:00:39 PM
http://blog.mpettis.com/2015/02/when-do-we-decide-that-europe-must-restructure-much-of-its-debt/#comment-122952


Nonsense! You white fucking people live in your theoretical glass house cathedrals!

More fucking junk science. Peak oil hahaha that nonsense again. More projections of Bubble curves.

Look at Armstrong's chart above. Now that is real science with 5000 years of data, not some projections (remember the projections of global warming!).

http://unheresy.com/Information%20Is%20Alive.html#Knowledge_Anneals

Quote from: myself
Knowledge Anneals

Unsophisticated thinkers have an incorrect understanding of knowledge creation, idolizing a well-structured top-down sparkling academic cathedral of vastly superior theoretical minds. Rather knowledge primary spawns from accretive learning due to unexpected random chaotic fitness created from multitudes of random path dependencies that can only exist in the bottom-up free market. Top-down systems are inherently fragile because they overcommit to egregious error (link to Taleb's simplest summary of the math).
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April 06, 2015, 02:16:00 PM
I will be leaving too so it appears that I should let some remarks.

From what I've read on this forums, I wish the world had a better chance coming from here. Contrary to what was said prior to this post the numbers of "hackers" even capable of conceptualizing all this debate are damn little. Maybe thousands have the brain plasticity but they don't have the morals, sanity and experience, nor the time needed to get some.

As stated before, any idea not based on truth is null, so a human society based on a trade system without face is null and not solution in any level. It can be a desperate stand like a masked hero, as pointed more than a time by CoinCube, but it will be bond on devils servitude as soon as it is seem as a variable on his chess game and you can be damn sure it already has. Some
outlined this clearly.

Also, It was asserted by some great examples that the cause of the possible future devastation is the unstoppable intermittent boom and burst of the masked monster hidden on bad economic/political decisions. Each person according her mythology called this concept. The masked monster was treated as Marxism, representation, top-down approach, money nature, psychopathy. All characteristics, not the essence of the "alienator".

The solution proposed by some of the MOST INTELLIGENT peers is to take the same monster, which feeds on alienation, and serve him on a plate where it can't be bursted. This is the most important part of all the discussions going on this forum. It is kept simple here, but take it into consideration and you gonna see the horizon much further.

The solution have to be human, able to succeed, to fail; to seed, to grow, to die. Must importantly It have to have face.

"It is not only fine feathers that make fine birds."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9uo0I9fZ4I
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1852
April 06, 2015, 01:47:22 PM
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wearefucked

I think all of us hope to hear from you again soon.  Please do make sure we hear more about your software in due course.

(I had to scramble my password at Zero Hedge via SHA-256 to actually FORCE myself out)

Good luck and best wishes.

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arteleis quoted wiki on Marxism:

There is no single definitive Marxist theory; Marxist analysis has been applied to diverse subjects and has been misconceived and modified during the course of its development, resulting in numerous and sometimes contradictory theories that fall under the rubric of Marxism or Marxian analysis.[2]

LOL!  Peru (the "other country" that I follow, married to a Peruvian, business there, etc.) has every kind of Marxist that exists.  Especially strong are the Trotskyites.  Trotsky broke away from the "Party Line".  In Peru Trotskyites are fractured into many schools of Trotskyite Marxism.  It's actually amusing to see the self-righteous Marxists there discussing "their" (personal) views...

legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1055
April 06, 2015, 10:31:50 AM
It is time for me to say goodbye (fuckers!  Grin). I really mean it this time.

I am scrambling my password and I intend to not come back for any reason whatsoever.

Time for me to return to a real life. I wish everyone the best.

Your posts today were quite strong.
Our recent back and forth if continued would likely have transitioned into a repeat of one already concluded.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4916516

1) We agree that an equilibrium location exists while disagreeing over its exact positioning.
2) We agree that we are no where near equilibrium now and moving in the wrong direction.
3) We are in complete agreement regarding the causes and nature of the problem as well as its seriousness.
4) We agree that the proposed solution of anonymous cryptocurrency is potentially viable but disagree regarding its downsides. This disagreement likely results from point #1 above.

Since you won't be able to reply I will leave it at that.
Good luck.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
April 06, 2015, 05:45:45 AM
hopefully they didnt get your Ip lol

Everybody knows who I am. Hiding my IP comes later when I release open source. Now this is really goodbye. Yeah nice chat mate; we do seem to agree.

Crypto-currency will be hot again next year or no later than 2018. Be ready. Bottom in the BTC price probably $100 - $150. Other altcoins will rise. New technologies. New breakthrough paradigms. Exciting.
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