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Thank you. That was excellent and I am confident you gained more interest in that video you linked up thread and including piquing my interest. I just don't know if I can get myself to struggle with listening to him with that heavy accent, but I probably will given your summary.
It is also important to settle the question if today's Russia leadership is ruled by zionists. He argues that's not the case...
This is the key point I have been thinking about too, because Antony Sutton researched how the Zionist bankers had sponsored the Bolshevik revolution and seemed to me they had infiltrated the elite in Russia. I have been told Larry Summers was over there after the fall of the USSR helping distribute the denationalized industries to the current oligarchy that run Russia.
What is his counter logic?
Note in the Kissinger video I linked below he explains how Russia is different than the other countries in the West. Very insightful. He also explains that China doesn't want to occupy territories, but rather influence them through trade. He says Asians think fixing a mess makes a worse mess. He said Westerns prefer occupation and fixing everyone's problems. This ties back into my past comments about how Westerners think man is in control and can fix everything. And Asians prefer to rent and follow the cycle of nature.
This wasn't happening even months ago, let alone years. The American Isis, Syrian debacle has revealed the plan so much that it's obvious to almost everyone.
So my point on your view that Europeans are totally in slumber is just your theory that is made from incomplete data.
But at what stage are they in the development of any action? You see by the time they are ready to act it will already be such a big mess that the hardcore neo-nazis might already be more popular.
And how are they going to balance their liberal leanings with the realization that they should be more conservative?
Americans have been working on preparing for decades, while the Europeans have been busy getting as drunk as possible on socialism and vacationing.
Where can I meet the mythical Europeans? I don't ever come across any of them. Where are they? Point me to some.
It's getting interesting, doesn't look like it's going to slow down now.
Will the west get sucked into an un-winnable war trying to fight off spot fires all over the world, while also being swamped/overrun and fucked sideways by the effects of socialism and civil wars.. ?
I think it's the rise and fall of islamic empires, I found it interesting how it is rising as the west declines 2016 - 2021
You caused me to realize that "empires" is the key word, and not economy. The (confidence in the) empire of Islam is increasing, not necessarily the economy of Islamic peoples or nations. The implication is it would rise with the War Cycle if not corresponding to an economic gain, because in this case increasing Islamic empire requires some conquering of the Western empire for the gain.
The Persian empire is rising?
Kissinger explains that Persia (Iran) has a rich ancient culture and had retained its own language and didn't adopt Arabic. He thinks it is impossible to stop Iran from having nuclear weapons and this will incentivize every significant nation in the Middle East will thus obtain them to remain at parity:
https://youtu.be/wooGL__-OvA?t=1825Thus he and our think tanks think Israel will get overrun and cease to exist as follows...
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/10/01/264485/no-more-israel-in-10-years-kissinger/In 10 years, there will be no more Israel: Kissinger
The idea of Israel’s inexorable collapse is no longer a taboo as more top brass US officials are explicitly attesting to the fact, with prominent US diplomat Henry Kissinger saying, “In 10 years, there will be no more Israel.” “Kissinger's statement is flat and unqualified. He is not saying that Israel is in danger, but could be saved if we just gave it additional trillions of dollars and smashed enough of its enemies with our military.… He is not offering a way out. He is simply stating a fact:
In 2022, Israel will no longer exist,” political columnist Kevin Barrett wrote in an article published on Press TV website on Sunday. He also pointed to a study commissioned by the US Intelligence Community (IC), comprised of 16 US intelligence agencies, earlier this year, titled “Preparing for a Post-Israel Middle East,” and pointed out that the content of the IC’s report corroborates Kissinger's contention. “The sixteen US intelligence agencies agree that Israel cannot withstand the coming pro-Palestinian juggernaut consisting of the Arab Spring, the Islamic Awakening, and the rise of the Islamic Republic of Iran,” the analyst added. The IC report contends that the US government no longer has the military and financial resources “to continue propping up Israel against the wishes of more than a billion of its neighbors” and suggests that “the US will have to follow its own national interests and pull the plug on Israel,” Barrett said. Considering the fact that the Jewish Kissinger has long been viewed as an ardent friend of Israel and that the majority of US officials, including the authors of the IC report, are influenced by pro-Israeli lobby, the emerging messages become more remarkable, the article added. The article argues that the emerging “complacency” among the US officials about Israel’s fate can be traced in the following reasons: · American politicians and political activists “are growing fed-up with Israeli intransigence and fanaticism.” · Americans feel “festering resentment over the Israel lobby's imperious domination of public discourse.” · “The American Jewish community is no longer united in support of Israel.” ·
It is becoming a common knowledge that Israel and its supporters carried out the 9/11 false-flag attacks. “In fact, the US is going broke and sacrificing thousands of lives in wars for Israel - wars that damage, rather than aid, US strategic interests,” the article said. “It will become ever-easier for American policymakers, following in the footsteps of Kissinger and the sixteen intelligence agencies, to recognize the obvious: Israel has reached the end of its shelf-life,” Barrett concluded. ASH/SS/AZ
The Bible may have spoken of this depending how one interprets it. Again I am not saying this is science, I am just looking at.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+13Revelation 13Common English Bible (CEB)
13 1 and I saw a beast coming up out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads.
3 One of its heads appeared to have been slain and killed, but its deadly wound was healed. So the whole earth was amazed and followed the beast.
The ten horns (the Ten Kings) could be the 10 major nations of the world, and the 7 heads could be the 7 major regions of the word (North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Middle East, Africa, Oceania).
This appears to be the period coming as the West falls and we have a multi-polar world with regions and a few strong nations. We will be moving towards a world government, but not all the way there.
The beast from the land
11 Then I saw another beast coming up from the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it was speaking like a dragon. 12 It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence. It also makes the earth and those who live in it worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. 13 It does great signs so that it even makes fire come down from heaven to earth in the presence of the people. 14 It deceives those who live on earth by the signs that it was allowed to do in the presence of the beast. It told those who live on earth to make an image for the beast who had been wounded by the sword and yet came to life again. 15 It was allowed to give breath to the beast’s image so that the beast’s image would even speak and cause anyone who didn’t worship the beast’s image to be put to death. 16 It forces everyone—the small and great, the rich and poor, the free and slaves—to have a mark put on their right hand or on their forehead. 17 It will not allow anyone to make a purchase or sell anything unless the person has the mark with the beast’s name or the number of its name. 18 This calls for wisdom. Let the one who understands calculate the beast’s number, for it’s a human being’s number. Its number is six hundred sixty-six.
This appears to be the coming world government. The wound on one of its head might be Israel in the region of the Middle East which is either removed or driven back to its 1968 borders by 2022.
