Topic: Economic Totalitarianism - page 51. (Read 345738 times)

I never said he must be the global elite, although I am not saying he isn't.

It is amazing how you and generalizethis wrangle on and on and completely lose focus of my original point 2 or 3 days ago. Which was the irony of the serendipity that these globalist memes displayed at the Georgia Guidestones and the Denver airport, when considered geometrically with the Great Pyramids form a pentagram which is often associated with Jesus's 5 wounds and as juxtaposed against the 6-pointed star which is an occult symbol foisted on the Jews by Zionism and not the historical symbol of Judaism.

I made a point about how even globalist memes are diluted by natural chance making the point that any attempt at globalization is doomed to failure (and will take down its adherents with them), and you two build strawmen that said I was trying to prove that globalist elite definitely constructed those two sites.

I think you both need to take deep breath and go read again bigtimespaghetti's post wherein he pointed out that it spreads out and becomes a cultural norm. So the meme becomes more important than the original leaders who were pushing (e.g. Rockefeller funding the various things I enumerated decades back).

I don't have the time to explain my vast knowledge to both of you. I can't write a fucking novel here. I come here to make a few comments and you two guys turn it into a fucking struggle that makes my disease look nice in comparison.

Let me offer another interpretation, and this is coming from someone who is no fan of governments or top down control. It may not be entirely indoctrination and people may just differ, perhaps even genetically, in how they weigh fairness considerations in their decision making process.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimatum_game, especially the (questionable) report under experimental results suggesting genetic differences.

There is possibly a degree of hard wiring in these views, and it isn't just that people "don't see" something as evil, but to them it genuinely is not evil (and the alternative you propose may, to them, in fact be evil).

Europe would collapse without the migrants. The clusterfuck being created by the designed wars in the Middle East will exacerbate such that Europe will fall into total chaos and not be able to recover. This is what will drive the acceptance of a world government which will offer peace.

You are still approaching this from thinking about what to do as fair, but there is no chance of that. The system is rigged. For as long as you waste time in that direction, you are just feeding the problem. The Europeans who are still confused about fairness are being raped by the system. You will sold that the world government will be more fair. And most of those who have been indoctrinated with using collectivism to achieve fairness will follow this outcome. They simply don't ever think that maybe there is another way (e.g. individual empowerment via technological innovation and destroying the collective economically so humans can be free). In my opinion, the problem is you (and most others) don't see all governments as evil.

P.S. rpietila might be able to confirm for you that I was predicting the devolution of the Middle East into war since 2010 on the other silver forum we used to hang out (or he might have left by then). The globalists had informed us of their plans through Lindsey William's contact in the oil industry. This was all planned out long ago. Lindsey Williams is not the contact I am referring to who has the information about the Birch Society and Freemasons involvement in insuring Agenda 21 is implemented in the USA.

Rorschach logic: (noun) a term identifying the use of oblique or mysterious works of art or literature or music to confirm an already held conspiracy theory or an existing bias. Sacred texts such the book of Revelations and art such as the the murals at the Denver International Airport are prime targets; as these works defy easy explanation and allow the imagination to turn the unknown into a confirmation of an already held belief.


Thanks TPTB. Can't think of a better way to start my day than the coining of a new phrase.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SDGBCo2dJE

Financial *meltdown. Stock Market Plunge. Market Took A Dive. Home Mortgages Underwater. Financial Tsunami. Asset Liquidation.Financial *meltdown. Stock Market Plunge. Market Took A Dive. Home Mortgages Underwater. Financial Tsunami. Asset Liquidation.

Economic woes just the tip of the iceberg.

Wall street takes a bath

Titanic proportions

Ripple effect

Financial Bailout

Avalanche

Financial market on shakey ground

Wallstreet unstable

Financial markets crashing

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BD3a4X2VyQY/maxresdefault.jpg

I have little patience for the kinds of low quality web sites that tend to report on this stuff, and also tend to spam search rankings in the process. If you have an authoritative source that can strongly verify the claims you just made, go ahead and show it. Don't turn a conversation into a treasure hunt.

It only takes one, and yes there are many relatively wealthy people who do eccentric things. The cost of the guidestones was significant but not billions, and doing things anonymously in the 70s was relatively easy.

I don't buy this as a signature of a global elite. He may be part of one, but it is impossible to say.

Beware confirmation bias.

Instead of wasting 2 days of my time, next time would you first do your research. Congressmen and other influential people received 100 hand signed copies of his book. The only person who knows his identity confirmed the veracity of the book.

I don't know that the authenticity of the book has been established. All I see is a file on a web site, and one full of paid traffic links and I think also trying to sell something. The internet is full of all kinds of unrelable crap, as you well know (and state above one example, but wikipedia is no more for sale than paid traffic sites, maybe less so).

Even when money is not involved (but especially when it is) people will fake all kinds of things simply for notoriety.

Now my guess is that the source cited on wikipedia for the nuclear war interpretation probably didn't even know about the book and was just wrong, but when it comes to unvalidated stuff on the internet, there is always a maybe.

Oh smooth you are trying so hard to pull victory from bowels of defeat and you make the grotesque error of allying with an idiot.

And thus you made the same mistake he made. How many humans can afford to construct the Georgia Guidestones. Duh. (and the power to make sure you remain anonymous!)

The fact that humans have been indoctrinated with the thoughts the globalists want them to have, is not an argument that there are not leaders.

Your powers of discernment suck.

(I have already stated up thread that the artist who painted the Denver murals believes in these values that he painted about, but that doesn't make him responsible for putting them in a $5.2 billion facility)

It is well known that Wikipedia is very often wrong about contentious issues, because it is a for sale to the highest bidder. This is true of encyclopedias and text books also. Are you just finding out about that reality of life

Wikipedia is wrong. There is no "maybe".


He wants a world government and population control. He says it numerous times. This is globalist line. I've seen it many times. You begin to recognize it when you've been researching this stuff for a while.

I'm sorry but the idea that humans are capable of consciously working to improve the world is not a signature of the global elite. I'm quite certain I could round up hundreds of people tomorrow who believe that and have nothing to do with any kind of elite.

The earlier comments about ink blots are valid to an extent here.

Pot, Kettle.

Wow you've really stooped into the non-intellectual zone haven't you.

You are just cluttering the thread with noise.

The humanist theme I wrote about up thread where it is incorrectly assumed nature doesn't manage itself and man is in control and the desire to make a perfect world which I explained with some mathematical description up thread means destroying life...

http://govtslaves.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Common-Sense-Renewed.pdf#page=14


These are powers of discernment about the global elite that I have developed.

After browsing through the book a bit, if we assume it is authentic then I think both of our interpretations are off a bit. There is little to suggest it is specifically directed at post-catastrophe people (so wikipedia may be wrong about that, and my impression as well), though I guess his intent that it carry on for centuries suggests that could be included within his intent.

He does seem to want to influence cultural values, as I suggested, but not in a top-down TPTB-imposed sort of way, nor dependent on a catastrophe. Indeed his stated goal is appealing much more to the capacity of people and societies to gradually learn and evolve over long periods of time:

Key passage (page 7):



Overall he does seem quite taken in by the sky-is-falling Population Bomb nonsense. Seems reasonably smart though. I wonder if his current perspective might be a bit different, now that the resource depletion scare has been largely debunked (if he's even still alive of course).

I just revealed the self-aggrandizing prophet-wanna-be black hole in your Airport theory. Shouldn't you be shilling get out of the Apocalypse free cards somewhere not making cliche appeals to authority? "Do you know who I am!" Really? Is that the brilliant logic that you warned me about at the beginning of this exchange?

Of course not you disingenuous prick.You are damn well aware of a "sound bite". A way to summarize a lot more than I will bother to repeat from my archives which are linked from my signature.

Why should I bother with you? Who are you? What have you accomplished?

Please enlighten us. Everyone knows about me and my meager accomplishments in the area of programming.

That's your evidence? You're no Nick Land. Here's how poets honor the words of real prophets:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q2dCvFqCym6v8JRPEE6UiF553fuFj4p2Jr0H1tX1Bhk/edit?usp=sharing


Maybe if you join the New world order someone will immortalize you.

http://govtslaves.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Common-Sense-Renewed.pdf#page=12


Bruised egos aren't rational arguments.

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Read the book so you can see how wrong you were. It explains that you were not even close.