Topic: Economic Totalitarianism - page 77. (Read 345738 times)

Since this thread is about practical solutions, I will post about an idea that I had when watching pawn stars.

In an episode Rick is selling silver to a costumer and the Old man says: “We buy silver, we don’t sell it” and then Rick makes fun of his father.

When I saw this, my first thought was: Hey that’s a good idea. A person with enough resources could create a pawn shop hire people and manage the business as usual with the exception that the business will buy gold and silver but not sell it.

This will be a way to obtain gold and silver without drawing to much attention to yourself, not only that if well managed you’ll obtain a thriving business and the possibility of buying gold and silver at cheap prices.

aside from networking i see two other major crypto currency hurdles for rural areas.

1.) cheap way to harness energy for electricity, these network devices should only need little energy from solar, wind or water steam to be online and transmitting signals.

2.) putting physical coins in common people's pockets..and the coins denominations. simple minded common people don't want operating systems (windows, linux, android or IOS) to transfer their money, they only need their hands.

Who ever is rolling on this with professionalism will receive funding to help make it a reality for common people, if any coin I am involved with reached fruition.

So do your homework now.

yes the "Rural Mesh Network" can be independent from the internet..it is like a separate internet from "the internet" but being disconnected from the internet will prevent you from accessing servers from a different location (e.g. google.com)

the application from this as stated in the paper is voice over IP, electronic mail etc.. imagine rural areas without telecom landlines or cellphone signal, or simply being able to communicate without using services and paying telecom companies, all this using only open source software.

since the network is maintained by the community..the question is the cost? is it cheaper this way?

http://wirelessafrica.meraka.org.za/wiki/index.php/DIY_Mesh_Guide_Download

using dd-wrt, an open source hack to cheap routers gives some advanced routing features needed for networking. even Linux pc's can be used as routers. https://www.pfsense.org/

i think we should still interconnect any network (e.g. rural wireless mesh, shortwave/HAM radio) to the internet because internet is already inside peoples homes, in their pc's and gadgets..this will greatly increase adoption of crypto currency. These networks should function as backup network or an alternative route for transactions..just like being able to get your money from an ATM in Bank A and an ATM in Bank B even though your money is deposited in Bank C (their ATM networks are interconnected)

Indeed, and most seem content to put up with it..

A form of government in which the state controls
every aspect of the individual’s life and all opposition
is suppressed.

I guess all I can do about it is facepalm myself as history repeats once again.

Oreo and Trolcookies,

When this stuff started in Nazi Germany, everyone was as nonchalant and non-alarmed as we are now.

It won't happen to us. 

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trollerc

Now THAT is pretty sick of Spain!  She even took the photo down.  Next time she ought to put the photo up in a more anonymous place.

This would also seem to fit Martin Armstrong's idea that .govs everywhere are just going for the money. 

Money, nada mas!

No if you want to maximize resiliency against a bezerk totalitarianism, you need to be able to mine from any where and any connection. We don't even know if they will shut down the internet. We have to be prepared for everything.

You love to argue just to argue don't you? How about cutting to the chase? Or do you really don't want to win.


It depends on the threat environment. I'd prefer ultimate resiliency given there are no tradeoffs and it is simply better in every way.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Tech/Tech-News/2015/08/21/Spanish-woman-fined-800-for-photo-of-police-car/

Well I thought eMunie might be a competitor to what I am doing and a potential solution to the totalitarianism, but now I highly doubt it:

1. TPTB have no conception of themselves benefiting from a Knowledge Age if they don't expand their monopolies. They are fighting over a smaller pie and have even stated that is their goal, e.g. Georgia Guidestones et al. Individual members may avail of anonymous means of hiding wealth and as anonymous competition within their ranks.

2. Boomers are philosophically against self-control and survival without a State. The State and hedonism are their glorious creation. They'll abandon it only when they're dead. The boomers drove the education and culture of the society of the generation after the X gen (my generation observed the transition and the State breaking the family unit so we rebelled, at least in the USA and I don't know about Europe). It is only the X gen (my generation) would are somewhat prepared en masse. From the latter generations in the West, there are a some exceptions on an individual basis and especially in the USA. Outside the West, the people are more prepared in the sense that many grew up surviving in difficult circumstances, even agrarian; and they have lower debt and State unfunded actuarial social welfare liabilities. But most in the developing world even though they didn't have the State take care of them, are very much socialist and want to copy the Western socialism asap.

3. So the likely outcome is very similar to Rome's fall. First the waterfall collapse, then as Constantine did, a renewed socialism religion towards global socialistic contract via a one world reserve currency with all axis powers sharing a vote in its global central bank. The youth of the world will follow starry-eyed into the NWO eugenics. The Knowledge Age will marching ahead growing much faster than that political morass. The political morass will be attempting to parasite the Knowledge Age with expropriation and taxation. I think in the end, that unproductive old world economy dies. But it will die hard because TPTB and boomers did such a glorious job of indoctrinating the world into socialism.


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I know how fast things escalate (according to history et al) in a down-wards spiral - but spurred by your recent posts about the fall of Rome, I was contemplating that the real suffering in Europe/west likely won't come before a generational shift. Yes, we will likely see a waterfall event - and fall down very fast - however, we still have a two generations that have a lot of know-how. However, the young generation seems to largely have lost that - for several reasons. One being they never learned to take care of themselves (in many ways, physically, mentally, growing food, repairing things, hedonism, innovate etc) because the state does that for them. The older generations still have some of all that knowledge inherent in them. Secondly the thought is that the large rates of unemployment escalates this issue, where most young people in their most productive and years, where they should learn the most, are not learning anything new. They are not being handed any knowledge - in fact many places we see them being handed inferior knowledge (purposefully or not, e.g. Common Core).. And many are not seeking it themselves either.(i.e your point about Westerners being fucking lazy... most of them..)

By saying all that, I'm not disregarding things turning to shit real fast. I'm probably arguing why it will continue to keep falling down.

I am also thinking that if TPTP are smart(er) and not just self-propagandized to believe that top-down control rules everything, then they should allow for a knowledge age to flourish in which they themselves can benefit. If they tread too hard and too much they suffer themselves (in what's available etc.)

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Aug 23

Armstrong's computer predicts that political divide in the USA but it might take longer than a few years. Looks like the USA will swing hard to the right politically this Nov 2016 election, then riding the up to the 2017.9 peak and then after fall into the economic abyss. 2018 forward is going to probably pandemic, war, chaotic shift in personal financial status every where.

So if I were you, I'd be preparing a plan B bug out for 2018ish, just in case you need it. If you don't need it, then great. But better to be prepared than not.

After 2020 or maybe not until 2032. Not now.

A hierarchical monetary authority (e.g., the digital economic system whereupon a certain poster to this thread claims to labor) would not resolve the issue the citation below invokes in a manner that favors the non-plutocrat. (See the below.)

10-4.  I do not believe that gold's price is any more manipulated than anything else.  It's too large a market.  There *may* be some manipulation around the edges, but, IMO it is pretty meaningless.  And I don't care anyway.

SILVER, ahh, the "Devil's Metal"...  I have a tiny holding, mostly as a small hedge for a serious TEOTWAWKI.  On the other hand, silver has NOT been used in any of the recent countries that have had hyperinflation.  Silver was NOT used in Peru during their hyperinflation (1980s).

You write gold may be over-hyped.  Bet you have a good take re Ag hype...  


EDIT:  If we act as optimists (to a degree anyway), there is a case for PLATINUM, as its use is likely to increase with an increase in world GDP (as a catalyst -- much needed in China for example).  But, being optimistic seems to be dangerous now (DJIA down 1000 points last week).

(I.e., your valuation of a precious metal is derived from its "physical properties" [username18333].)

You did say that but small is unqualified and often people include their illiquid assets in the calculation.

I thought you might have 5% of total networth in gold, thus perhaps up 20% of liquid networth. At those levels, I sense goldbug fever.

If you are safely within reasonable diversification, then my apology for prying into your personal matters.

I just get offended by "gold price manipulated" and other tinfoil hat-speak because I allowed myself to get suckered into that and held 80% of my liquid networth in silver and ended up being destitute by now partially because of that decision. Not because I didn't issue sell orders per my prediction of top at $45, but because in order for my physical silver to follow me to the Philippines it had to be placed with a local dealer who then ... I'd rather not say...

Silver and gold are fine as long as you don't really expect to ever sell them, which sounds like your case.

I found them to be a major hassle. I couldn't even transport them without having to pay bribes.

Which confirms this post.