Topic: Economic Totalitarianism - page 74. (Read 345758 times)

Not sure what the topic of this thread is now, but I remember reading Anonymint complaints about the long term validity of Cryptonote like a year ago.  Anyone remember what it was or the link to it?  Or was it just all PoW in general?

With pruning coming to Cryptonote, my interest in it is increasing.  I also just posted why I see systems like Emunie being a huge Pandora's box of trouble and why this coin will probably be the one governments co-opt and force onto it's citziens:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-emunie-is-the-pandoras-box-of-cryptocurrency-1167031

http://www.lakersnation.com/kobe-bryant-begins-shooting-for-first-time-since-shoulder-surgery/2015/08/22/


Two superstars who have been hobbled over the past 3 years hoping to make a comeback. This morning started eating raw leafy greens and coconut meat exclusively. Ran 2 kms. Hope this works.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-kobe-shaq-feud-20150830-story.html


Feeling excited today. Feels really great to get some energy food back in my body. Feels really great to run at 6am. Feels really great to start a day of work with a clear mind, energy, and no headache! Hope my health cooperates...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/26/first-state-legalizes-armed-drones-for-cops-thanks-to-a-lobbyist.html

I've been formulating the design of the perfect anonymity network.

It has become apparent that there will be no way to reliably hide servers that have a very high amount of traffic, because they need to blend in with the users.

Thus the age of distributed databases is upon us. MaidSafe doesn't appear to me to be the correct (and certainly not the complete) solution (details will be explained in the future or will become apparent).

The future will be one where a website is essentially a gateway that coordinates the many users who are actually serving and sharing the data with each other.

Nearly everything about creating and programming a website will change. Programmers will have to adjust.

One (amongst a multitude) of the fundamental mistakes both I2P and Tor make is the hidden servers publish onion routes to themselves. This is essentially "call me". Instead the only way to make them secure is to invert the control to "I will call you". There are so many fundamental errors in I2P and Tor, it makes you wonder if the designers are complete idiots. Rather I think their goal wasn't anonymity against the NSA, just privacy against your average Joe Blow.

that is true..

http://m.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/data-retention-and-the-end-of-australians-digital-privacy-20150827-gj96kq.html

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/new-victorian-anti-consorting-laws-to-stop-bikies-and-criminals-meeting-in-person-or-online/

Armstrong says all internet activity in Australia will be monitored starting Oct 13:

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/36649

Did I not write that atheists have a different King (probably themselves or "nature" or the "universe") than Christians. That is logically a balanced statement that includes everyone, not just Christians.

I think we can drop this topic.

We are muddling the point that China is rapidly shifting from Communist to Christian.

I agree with this, though I am interested to see more of rpietilas interpretations of events and how they fit in with revelations, maybe a seperate thread?
Religious discussion tends to get people fired up and derail threads when injected into the topic.

We are on the same page. But why are you questioning me questioning religion when someone else brought it to the thread in the first place? If you bring it into the conversation, you should be prepared to talk about it or even to defend it. I just don't want to read how I'm one of the damned antichrist followers (or not one of the chosen--same thing, different posture) when i come to this thread. Is that asking too much? I'm sure everyone has better things to do, but next time i'm just going to start quoting Nick Land and Nietzsche and that way I can relegate my beliefs to the authority of a higher power.

Let me clarify (once more) we're on the same boat on this. A mental prison has only one key and it's called "Knowledge". This has nothing to do with God or any religion. You were ready to question what you thought it had a flaw (or didn't serve your needs). That's why you were able to question it in the first place. And that's ethical also as sane.

On the other hand, if you were not ready to question your faith, then a person who would "oblige" you to do it, by "opening your eyes" would probably make things worse and possibly he would have gained himself a devoted enemy. Please understand that not everybody is "open minded" and as I said, religion is often used as a safe heaven for a troubled soul. Maybe we should just let people to it.


If you think that religion has nothing to do with politics you're obviously need to reconsider. Both are tightly associated with a synaptic bond that serves back and forth "pro bono" the needs of each other. Each will dispense its services to each other whenever the society "demands" it. This has nothing to do with either the first, not the later; it has only has to do with control and power over the hordes of desperate people.

You are agnostic, so I presume you're very much aware what I'm talking about here. Enough said.

Why should religon be the one area were we don't question someone's belief? If no one had ever questioned me on it, I'd still be living in the mental prison of organized religion--and i find that unethical.

But more to the point is why is it being leveraged in a political discussion? Let's not forget that Revelations damns everyone who doesn't fit within a prescribed belief system. Do you see me threatening anyone with eternal damnation or referencing materials that do? And if your beliefs can't handle being questioned, how strong were they to begin with?

Even if I don't believe in something, even if I know something is a fraud, or even can prove it's a fake; my ethics constraints me to accept one's beliefs. "What ethics has to do with religion", you might ask... Religion often offers people a standing point into their stormy lives. I rarely try to debunk such a belief,  or argue with it; because if I do, I may destroy what this human has thought as utterly important for his own existence; and that I find unethical.

lol..

like generalizethis i'm not so fond of the bible, i washed myself of those religion stuff, i just filter or skip and just harness the point, logic and reason....but somebody's gonna talk ^    

i like to make fun of things written there (bible) but i'm over it..those are the days of loitering and having fun with religious and philosophical discussions.

The dialogue was to make a point (a parable) not sure if anyone would construe that as relating directly to you (they'd be mistaken as i was only trying to illustrate how most anyone would not accept bible logic when analyzing a bond--if that wasn't clear, i appologize). As for referencing the Bible or Revelations in the context of politics, my points stand and i make no appologies as i think it is a fraud.

You are so blind in this matter that I point out the one last time that:

*  it is OK to criticize my points in my actual writings that I myself have written, but

* it is NOT OK to criticize "my points", which in reality are your real or imaginary past impressions of other guys.


So yeah pls continue criticizing me, and also the other guys, but don't mix the critique in the same paragraph such that the reader gets the impression that I share the opinions with the other guys unless it's explicit that I do. Implicit is strawmaning.

Not hardly, pointing out the flaw I think inherent in your reference to Revelations is not strawmanning. It's pointing out the flaw I think inherent in refrencing Revelations. It's not personal. I have deep rerspect for you Risto when it comes to business, finance and technological innovations, and I also have a deep respect for TPTB_need_war in technology and politics and few other things he's written about--but when you guys talk about religous matters (and yes the two kings or christ/antichrist from Revelations are a religous matter--if I'm mistaken on this reading, please tell me how I could glean a different reading, TPTB), the analytical skills you rely on so heavily in your gifted areas seems to shutdown and you sound like any man on the street who's sold his critical analysis for a piece of virtual pie in the sky (but after you die and no can prove otherwise, of course).

Strawmaning means to lash out against person A by attributing to him some stuff B that he is not doing, thinking or representing, based on some quality C of this person A, the other holders of which (the quality C) the attributor has seen representing stuff B as well.

Both me and TPTB_n_w have been the objects of your strawmaning.

What am I strawmanning?

Let's revise the original statement by one word and see what happens?


Does anyone want to play symantics police with that?

Aren't you strawmaning?

Sorry, thought you were being serious about this comment to Risto and lumped you into the taking Revelations as what will actually happen crowd. In which case you may not be directly quoting, but directly paraphrasing a book by a bunch of dudes who think they have divine inspiration from a magical spaceman. In truth i don't want to know your religious beliefs and didn't go any further in my speculation than those two items (one yours, one Risto's) in the thread.

As for miracles saving people. A lot of people change habits after a severe diagnosis and recover fully. The most common story (a secular one) is quitting your job, and with an obvious reduction of stress and obligations, the body can redirect energy to heal itself (are you paying attention TPTB_need_war?)--something Buddhists monks and Yogis have mastered without the "I eat Pagans for breakfast" god so prevalent in Western belief systems .

There are many special qualities to spirituality (and we evolved it for a reason "death denial" anyone?), but organized religion is the best way to keep yourself from having a spiritual experience. I'm an agnostic and have as much bliss from writing a poem (if not more) than any zealot can claim while castigating heathens. The experience can only be described as having an intense and protracted orgasm in your mind--those describing themselves in the prophetic or divining moment relate a similar ecstasy or bliss when they are experiencing what they claim to be god's divine inspiration. I just call it bliss, not sure why a god needs be brought into the conversation.