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legendary
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August 25, 2015, 11:46:01 PM
The One World Currency & Cryptocurrencies

Armstrong's Follow Up

arielbit (are you my neighbor?) it will be much more efficient to train fish vendors here in Philippines how to operate a smartphone. Private bank issued tokens would be too numerous, confusing, and not trusted as they will cheat and fail (as they in the 1800s in the USA). Don't you see everyone wants a smartphone.

yes, i am a Filipino.. had some laughs reading your posts describing Filipinos  Grin

i've been to some places where if there is some electrical line problem it takes a week or two and to a month or more for typhoon damaged lines to be fixed. People riding small boats, working in the fields and plantations, heavy rains etc. should be able to trade anytime anywhere.. i'm just trying to apply in my mind where in the worst possible situations cyptocoins can circulate like money.

yes i see everyone wants a smartphone but there are still people who cannot own one, even a 11$ made in china cellphone (not a smartphone) is hard for them to acquire.

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Private bank issued tokens would be too numerous, confusing, and not trusted as they will cheat and fail (as they in the 1800s in the USA)

maybe there are workarounds on this because that is an old problem facing new technology, there are still uncharted territories and we are still exploring..
sr. member
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August 25, 2015, 10:45:51 PM
The One World Currency & Cryptocurrencies

Armstrong's Follow Up

arielbit (are you my neighbor?) it will be much more efficient to train fish vendors here in Philippines how to operate a smartphone. Private bank issued tokens would be too numerous, confusing, and not trusted as they will cheat and fail (as they in the 1800s in the USA). Don't you see everyone wants a smartphone.
legendary
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August 25, 2015, 10:29:12 PM

2.) putting physical coins in common people's pockets..and the coins denominations. simple minded common people don't want operating systems (windows, linux, android or IOS) to transfer their money, they only need their hands.

Sorry physical coins can't be secure.

The solution is to make cryptocoins as easy as opening Facebook.

if that's the case i think cyptocoins and banks would co exist (not exactly like the banks today).. there will be mini/community banks or merchants who are trusted to exchange cryptocoins to notes,tokens, etc. I think physical money would never be outdated specially for micropayments. By then majority of bigger transactions would not involve banks anymore.


@trollercoaster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXZiLoydqPo

nice links..i have WRT54G too bad it is version 8 (not supported) I'd love to see this HSMM-MESH on a router  Cheesy

running HAMs on router is low electricity and that's good but that just make us scavengers of old routers and they are scarce.

legendary
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August 25, 2015, 04:48:20 PM
http://wndw.net there's a book here with some good information in it too.
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August 25, 2015, 04:43:50 PM
...any new design should be rural area friendly...

Living in a rural location myself, I've been wondering too at what options there might be. I'm pretty new to this and have been trying to work out what kit would be needed. Any layman-friendly advice from out there would be appreciated ;-)




One of the arguments for being able to withstand the government's documented moves towards controlling Bitcoin[1], is that mining can move to any jurisdiction and any means of internet connection, even low bandwidth shortwave or HAM radio.




What do you think of this guide? I am going to set up a couple of nodes, it looks pretty straightforward, portable due to low power consumption and low cost to set up.

Edit: it helps to paste the link.. http://hsmm-mesh.org

Thanks for the link, Trollercoaster. This is the kind of thing I was after, though I still have to link a few dots on this subject; to get my head around it. There's a guy in the next village to us with quite an impressive folding HAM radio rig, about 20-30 ft. tall. I'll have to get into conversation.
sr. member
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August 25, 2015, 11:55:12 AM
So now discussion of consensus
algos other than PoW are consigned to altcoin discussion?

Actually the discussion was applicable to Bitcoin's PoW also, because the selfish mining attack means any party that controls 33% of the network hash power can in theory accumulate wealth disproportionately faster than the rest of the network thus the fundamental flaw I described in the opening post. With certain control over the network propagation the required percentage drops as low as 25%. This can be happening now, indicators might be the orphan rate and statistics of how often two block solutions broadcast within the network propagation delay.

Perhaps Maxwell doesn't like the fact that I have a solution to that problem and am going to destroy Bitcoin and his bloated $24 million dollar vulture capital morass.

Maxwell is a smart guy, but selfish, closed source assholes (censoring technical discussion is closing source) can't win against the entire community of humanity. Does he really think the community can't pool enough resources to hire mathematicians and cryptographers as smart or smarter than him  Huh He has a personality disorder (or vested interest but he didn't decide to acquire his position of overlord without the personality disorder in the first place) that I think Eric S. Raymond described well:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4901

National styles in hacking
Posted on 2013-04-11 by Eric Raymond

The German: Methodical, good at details, prone to over-engineering things, careful about tests. Territorial: as a project lead, can get mightily offended if you propose to mess with his orderly orderliness. Good at planned architecture too, but doesn’t deal with novelty well and is easily disoriented by rapidly changing requirements. Rude when cornered. Often wants to run things; just as often it’s unwise to let him.



Self-healing in the Age of Collapsing Healthcare eugenics totalitarianism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzWyiYUu-Dk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoDt4nX3qEg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kombucha


Re bond yields and bond prices, yes, TPTB I understand that.  But, I am not tempted to buy bonds at about 1.99%.  1.99% is only a little better than 0%, and the 1.99% would be taxed anyway.

Sure bonds could go up (they have gone up A LOT).  But, not for me.  Not going to ride that tiger.

I never said buy bonds. I have no idea why you say that? If you mean others shouldn't buy bonds, note they do this for safe haven liquidity and because as bonds yields decline the resale value of the bond increases rapidly. The actual yield is not their objective.



New thread?: Technological Totalitarianism     Smiley

Haha. Good one.

I'm healing myself, then it's time for war. I'm not joking. No more time for this forum.

I am 4 days and 15 hours into my fast, but ate 2 egg yokes, a cup of leafy greens, and 50-100g of white coconut meat about 24 hours into the fast:

P.S. If I seem moody or curt, perhaps it is because I've only eaten 2 egg yolks 40 hours into a fast which I intend to continue for week or weeks under the theory that ketogenesis will eat the bad prions which are sending chemicals to my brain to cause the brain to stop feeding itself glucose so the prions can get more glucose. Apparently the prions can't eat ketones but the brain can even it has been programmed by the prions to self-starve glucose. I need to get 100% healthy so I can code at my full capability.

For most all of you who have never experienced Multiple Sclerosis, just remember you have no idea how debilitating it is. Imagine your worst sickness where you felt like utter shit. Realize how good you feel while reading this. Note the difference. Imagine feeling like shit all the time. Multiple Sclerosis has different effects in different people. I experience Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. That effect is basically inability to concentrate and not a feeling of tired as in wanting to sleep, but rather a feeling of exhaustion and inability to sleep:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLyS8bj3iJM

Very interesting theory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CuGPRF3zXg

P.S. Who believes this is true?

https://youtu.be/4QGjpYIJs4Q?t=306
legendary
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August 25, 2015, 06:31:11 AM

arielbit, thanks for this. I'm still looking into the pros and cons of shortwave for this application - plenty to learn! For instance, do you know how/if the "Rural Mesh Network" above could be adapted to be independent from the internet?


yes the "Rural Mesh Network" can be independent from the internet..it is like a separate internet from "the internet" but being disconnected from the internet will prevent you from accessing servers from a different location (e.g. google.com)

the application from this as stated in the paper is voice over IP, electronic mail etc.. imagine rural areas without telecom landlines or cellphone signal, or simply being able to communicate without using services and paying telecom companies, all this using only open source software.

since the network is maintained by the community..the question is the cost? is it cheaper this way?

http://wirelessafrica.meraka.org.za/wiki/index.php/DIY_Mesh_Guide_Download

using dd-wrt, an open source hack to cheap routers gives some advanced routing features needed for networking. even Linux pc's can be used as routers. https://www.pfsense.org/

i think we should still interconnect any network (e.g. rural wireless mesh, shortwave/HAM radio) to the internet because internet is already inside peoples homes, in their pc's and gadgets..this will greatly increase adoption of crypto currency. These networks should function as backup network or an alternative route for transactions..just like being able to get your money from an ATM in Bank A and an ATM in Bank B even though your money is deposited in Bank C (their ATM networks are interconnected)


One of the arguments for being able to withstand the government's documented moves towards controlling Bitcoin[1], is that mining can move to any jurisdiction and any means of internet connection, even low bandwidth shortwave or HAM radio.


What do you think of this guide? I am going to set up a couple of nodes, it looks pretty straightforward, portable due to low power consumption and low cost to set up.

Edit: it helps to paste the link.. http://hsmm-mesh.org
legendary
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August 24, 2015, 08:06:38 PM
Well if you want proof that Maxwell wants to make war with me, he moved the following thread from the Bitcoin Technical & Discussion thread, after I made the post pointing out I was AnonyMint and that his Andrew buddy has a flawed white paper:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fundamental-flaw-in-consensus-algorithms-1159691

And not only that, but he didn't provide any "MOVED:..." thread link.

I am messaging the superior moderators.

If it is war he wants, then it is war he will get. And I am not referring to any action the owners of the forum obviously won't do. I am referring to destroying his company and Bitcoin. Now the fight is on.


New thread?: Technological Totalitarianism     Smiley

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Re bond yields and bond prices, yes, TPTB I understand that.  But, I am not tempted to buy bonds at about 1.99%.  1.99% is only a little better than 0%, and the 1.99% would be taxed anyway.

Sure bonds could go up (they have gone up A LOT).  But, not for me.  Not going to ride that tiger.

1.99% is much better than the Swiss 10 year!
legendary
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August 24, 2015, 07:45:31 PM
Well if you want proof that Maxwell wants to make war with me, he moved the following thread from the Bitcoin Technical & Discussion thread, after I made the post pointing out I was AnonyMint and that his Andrew buddy has a flawed white paper:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fundamental-flaw-in-consensus-algorithms-1159691

And not only that, but he didn't provide any "MOVED:..." thread link.

I am messaging the superior moderators.

If it is war he wants, then it is war he will get. And I am not referring to any action the owners of the forum obviously won't do. I am referring to destroying his company and Bitcoin. Now the fight is on.


New thread?: Technological Totalitarianism     Smiley

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Re bond yields and bond prices, yes, TPTB I understand that.  But, I am not tempted to buy bonds at about 1.99%.  1.99% is only a little better than 0%, and the 1.99% would be taxed anyway.

Sure bonds could go up (they have gone up A LOT).  But, not for me.  Not going to ride that tiger.
sr. member
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August 24, 2015, 03:58:46 PM
Well if you want proof that Maxwell wants to make war with me, he moved the following thread from the Bitcoin Technical & Discussion thread, after I made the post pointing out I was AnonyMint and that his Andrew buddy has a flawed white paper:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fundamental-flaw-in-consensus-algorithms-1159691

And not only that, but he didn't provide any "MOVED:..." thread link.

I am messaging the superior moderators.

If it is war he wants, then it is war he will get. And I am not referring to any action the owners of the forum obviously won't do. I am referring to destroying his company and Bitcoin. Now the fight is on.
sr. member
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August 24, 2015, 01:37:32 PM
Sell bonds.  The 10-Year now has a yield of just 1.99%.  1.99%?  Ahh, no thanks.

When yield goes higher, bonds decline in value.
sr. member
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August 24, 2015, 01:36:26 PM
TPTB: do you have any thoughts on the "black monday" crash going on right now?  Is this the start to the 2015.75 financial crash?  A foreshadowing of things to come over the next couple months?

 Any steps to take in the immediate future?

As I explained in my post in the MA thread today, this is the false move that causes the peak in bonds by Oct. 1.

You should be selling gold, BTC, and bonds, and buying US dollar and US stocks on this low this week.

Hold tight in that until Spring 2016, then diversify some into gold and crypto coins (especially mine  Grin) as they will bottom (<$700 and <$100).

great, thanks for the response.

So are the calls for an all out "collapse" (of banks, society, outright chaos) overblown?  It seems like financial markets are getting much more volatile and risky, do you think those predictions are overblown?  Or are they just misdirection?

It will be a 2+ year collapse process.
legendary
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August 24, 2015, 01:07:37 PM
TPTB: do you have any thoughts on the "black monday" crash going on right now?  Is this the start to the 2015.75 financial crash?  A foreshadowing of things to come over the next couple months?

 Any steps to take in the immediate future?

As I explained in my post in the MA thread today, this is the false move that causes the peak in bonds by Oct. 1.

You should be selling gold, BTC, and bonds, and buying US dollar and US stocks on this low this week.

Hold tight in that until Spring 2016, then diversify some into gold and crypto coins (especially mine  Grin) as they will bottom (<$700 and <$100).

great, thanks for the response.

So are the calls for an all out "collapse" (of banks, society, outright chaos) overblown?  It seems like financial markets are getting much more volatile and risky, do you think those predictions are overblown?  Or are they just misdirection?


TPTB is right about the US dollar.  It went down hard today vs. the euro and the yen because foreigners are cashing in their "Carry Trades" and taking their money home.  The dollar should be pretty strong for the short to medium term, IMO.

Sell bonds.  The 10-Year now has a yield of just 1.99%.  1.99%?  Ahh, no thanks.

Moi?  I sold a bunch of stock about three weeks ago, so am HODLING all else. 

Everyone's situation is different.

In addition, this article is worth a read -> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-23/the-fed-is-looking-at-a-very-different-dollar-than-wall-street
legendary
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August 24, 2015, 11:34:47 AM
TPTB: do you have any thoughts on the "black monday" crash going on right now?  Is this the start to the 2015.75 financial crash?  A foreshadowing of things to come over the next couple months?

 Any steps to take in the immediate future?

As I explained in my post in the MA thread today, this is the false move that causes the peak in bonds by Oct. 1.

You should be selling gold, BTC, and bonds, and buying US dollar and US stocks on this low this week.

Hold tight in that until Spring 2016, then diversify some into gold and crypto coins (especially mine  Grin) as they will bottom (<$700 and <$100).

great, thanks for the response.

So are the calls for an all out "collapse" (of banks, society, outright chaos) overblown?  It seems like financial markets are getting much more volatile and risky, do you think those predictions are overblown?  Or are they just misdirection?


TPTB is right about the US dollar.  It went down hard today vs. the euro and the yen because foreigners are cashing in their "Carry Trades" and taking their money home.  The dollar should be pretty strong for the short to medium term, IMO.

Sell bonds.  The 10-Year now has a yield of just 1.99%.  1.99%?  Ahh, no thanks.

Moi?  I sold a bunch of stock about three weeks ago, so am HODLING all else. 

Everyone's situation is different.
hero member
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August 24, 2015, 11:31:12 AM
TPTB: do you have any thoughts on the "black monday" crash going on right now?  Is this the start to the 2015.75 financial crash?  A foreshadowing of things to come over the next couple months?

 Any steps to take in the immediate future?

As I explained in my post in the MA thread today, this is the false move that causes the peak in bonds by Oct. 1.

You should be selling gold, BTC, and bonds, and buying US dollar and US stocks on this low this week.

Hold tight in that until Spring 2016, then diversify some into gold and crypto coins (especially mine  Grin) as they will bottom (<$700 and <$100).

great, thanks for the response.

So are the calls for an all out "collapse" (of banks, society, outright chaos) overblown?  It seems like financial markets are getting much more volatile and risky, do you think those predictions are overblown?  Or are they just misdirection?
sr. member
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August 24, 2015, 11:23:39 AM
TPTB: do you have any thoughts on the "black monday" crash going on right now?  Is this the start to the 2015.75 financial crash?  A foreshadowing of things to come over the next couple months?

 Any steps to take in the immediate future?

As I explained in my post in the MA thread today, this is the false move that causes the peak in bonds by Oct. 1.

You should be selling gold, BTC, and bonds, and buying US dollar and US stocks on this low this week.

Hold tight in that until Spring 2016, then diversify some into gold and crypto coins (especially mine  Grin) as they will bottom (<$700 and <$100).
hero member
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August 24, 2015, 10:57:15 AM
TPTB: do you have any thoughts on the "black monday" crash going on right now?  Is this the start to the 2015.75 financial crash?  A foreshadowing of things to come over the next couple months?

 Any steps to take in the immediate future?
sr. member
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August 24, 2015, 09:05:57 AM
aside from networking i see two other major crypto currency hurdles for rural areas.

1.) cheap way to harness energy for electricity, these network devices should only need little energy from solar, wind or water steam to be online and transmitting signals.

https://www.google.com/search?q=micro+hydropower

2.) putting physical coins in common people's pockets..and the coins denominations. simple minded common people don't want operating systems (windows, linux, android or IOS) to transfer their money, they only need their hands.

Sorry physical coins can't be secure.

The solution is to make cryptocoins as easy as opening Facebook.
sr. member
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August 24, 2015, 09:04:29 AM
This back an forth is uninteresting and can be simplified mathematically to the following.

F(x)=


Quote
CoinCube: For any finite value of x the function is not 0
TPTB_need_war: The answer is 0
CoinCube: For a finite value of x the function is greater than zero
TPTB_need_war: Why do I have to repeat myself the answer is zero

You have a blind spot when it comes to economics.

If the opportunity cost of not joining the Knowledge Age is say 10 - 100X greater than remaining in the financed NWO morass, the profit margins of the financed world go negative (in fact this has already happened in China in the export manufacturing sector!) because you have too many competing for the same small bounded value (relative to the Knowledge Age value and the unbounded opportunities for growth).

Thus collapse to 0. That collapsed financed NWO system will try to survive by TOTALITARIANISM and eugenics.

Q.E.D.
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