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We are creating a society where everyone is educated but there is no value of intellect.. because everyone carry same degrees and we are saying they have equal intellect. Thus many posts are being filled by no intellectuals. Creating scope of curruption and thus failures of system.. not everyone who can read book can be an Einstein. We need to identify intellect and groom it to achieve successful innovation.
Sad to say, not all educated professionals have the intelligence and skills that mostly companies in need of. The reason why some companies do not progress or some government officials do not create big and positive changes when they sit in their positions because they focus on corruption that made them become a failure on the eyes of the people.
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School is not meant to get a job but to change people's perspective for the better. But now the stigma has changed a bit because most people's Mindset has been set that school is for better jobs because there are classifications for some companies that do make education a special classification but actually the purpose of school is not to get a job.
Most people have this wrong mindset concerning school,  that school makes one to be successful in life by getting the best Job. I think this mindset work before but not any longer. The world as change that you don't need to be university graduate to be successful. The main purpose of school is to make one think well.
Its still a wrong mindset because having a degree would always been recommendable rather than on having no school knowledge or having no degree which would really be more hard to get some job.

Unless if you do able to make yourself find one online but speaking about qualifications and other skills and credentials then you would really be still needing off these things because employers cant

really just accept someone who arent that competent.There might be some exemption on some type of job because there are ones who could really handle out even just with
that general knowledge.
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I think it's not the education that have failed but it's the government of those countries as government can also be responsible for creating opportunities for their people. Before people go to school and choose their course, it would be better to check if which jobs are available on their country (the one with lots of vacancies) so that they won't worry once they graduate but they can work immediately.

There are also schools who guarantee a job for their students and those jobs can sometimes be on abroad. Isn't this grate? Students can worry less and won't have a hard time finding for work vacancies because their schools are helping them to get one.
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What the education provides and what the real world needs is completely different. What we learnt need to be executed through some means. When we don't get opportunity, what we learnt goes useless. Somehow we're in a situation to find an opportunity or make things of our own.

In my country job opportunities are available, but the students coming out every year doesn't meet the requirements that the job provider expect. So, along with the education it is a must to know how hiring is done and keep ourselves prepared to the job provider's requirement.
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My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No
Agree that education (especially at school) will not guarantee getting a job but through education young people are being prepared to live a good life when they enter the world of work, in developing countries without a certificate you will find it increasingly difficult to compete for work so education needed. What must be changed is that the education curriculum in schools does not only focus on knowledge that is not relevant to the world of work in the future but also teach skills.
True. Students have been more observed these days that they are more focused on gaining knowledge when in fact skills are more important. That is why a lot of educated government officials have become wise and brilliant that they end up creating wide corruption that they greatly benefited while leaving the people suffering. However, Education is very essential as it could offer a successful life in the future but I don’t see it a guarantee of getting jobs not unless you exerted extra efforts on it.
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Most people go to school believing that they will get a job after schooling. In most developing country, the rate of unemployment keep increasing every year as graduate are produced every year to the labor market with a decline in rate of job opportunity. Using Nigeria as a case study, over 600,000 graduates are produced every year to the labour market with no job opportunity. This make the rate of unemployment increase every year.

Due to this, most youth believe education as failed them after graduated for years without a job. Alot of graduate are into transportation and other minor stuff that are irrelevant to thier course of study to sustain their living.

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This is seen in a case where some students went back to their school to demand for a payback of all money spent during their schooling period after graduating for years without job.


My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No

Being educated means you are trainable i.e you should be able to use your acquired knowledge to creat space for yourself in the labour market even if their isn't any job opportunity. Education will give you some skills that make you different from an illiterate.

CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.

It feels a bit like it is not necessarily education but more about history and geography than anything else. If a society is so full of corruption along with high degrees of absolute poverty, it requires a totally monumental effort to elevate it to the next stage. China has been able to achieve it somewhat, but the first couple decades were undoubtedly rough for the workers in the factories. I'm not sure that Nigeria even has the same level of natural resources and the climate actually works against the country in many ways, it is hard to be as productive in searing heat. Education is certainly important but you do need a lot more infrastructure and services to make it useful in application.
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School is not meant to get a job but to change people's perspective for the better. But now the stigma has changed a bit because most people's Mindset has been set that school is for better jobs because there are classifications for some companies that do make education a special classification but actually the purpose of school is not to get a job.
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There is a systematic lag behind how the education curriculum evolves with the current condition of how the world works, especially in developing countries. There is a lot of bureaucracy that needed to be done to improve a biased education system as a whole. As a matter of consequence, mostly bureaucracy became a bottleneck to improve what should be precisely done to the system.

With that in mind, school is generally a bad way to gain and comprehend knowledge, every student is different and they have their own way learning style that can't be applied by teachers that solely follow their SOP of the education guidelines. I humbly think that school is better perceived as a social institution, rather than a place for educational sources.
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It's good to have this notion, but not everyone thinks so especially the 90's and older generations. In developing countries, work is the most sought after career and is even a measure of success for several reasons:
- The influence of parents and the environment
- Education orientation
- Privilege

So that education is believed to be a bridge to work because that is the only thing that is considered successful.

While education does not absolutely guarantee a person of landing a job, it increases the chances of one having so. Even if there may be some people who still is underemployed despite being fully educated, the pros outweighed the cons. Education is still the best guarantee and factor in order for a person to at least have a decent livelihood and welfare to live.

Without any educational background, a person will most likely suffer in this day and age. Job opportunities and education are two (2) different fields, although they are connected. I think this is the time where the government must provide ample opportunities in order to address this problem.
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Education is completely different from country to country. And as time shows that the initial level of education, this period from 7 years to 17 gives only general education, in no case related to professions. This is followed by several more years of study, which is a six-year period where a person must obtain a profession. Do all countries act this way? And with the very initial education, it is necessary to motivate and educate children to a correct understanding of life, namely, that nothing in the world will be given for free, and in order to make your life successful, you must study diligently and adhere to all moral principles. 
A person who enters life with a higher education has a much better chance of getting a good job than someone who only went to school to pass the time. 
It has always been. For the one who tries, his chances of success are much higher, and everything that a person receives from life is the fruit of his own hands.
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Failing education is a common argument in this day and age. Another common theme is a record number of millionaires and billionaires being produced. What we lack are per capita numbers to put everything into perspective. Are there more millionaires and billionaires being produced today as a proportion of global population, than we had in previous eras. I think the authentic numbers would surprise people. The united states exhibited greater than 10% economic growth for many years during manifest destiny and the expansionist era. Which could coincide with high wealth production.

Education today is more cultural than systemic with information being so easily accessible and available.

I think the main difference separating the current era from past eras is education and knowledge used to be considered cultural artifacts of high social status as a past tense. A person who was a badass in past eras was someone who could speak 8 languages who had a specialized skillset that was difficult to obtain. Today, a badass is considered to be someone who is a thug and petty thief. Our cultural values and ideology has shifted. That's the biggest force behind any regressive movement as far as education goes.
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Is it really correct to conclude that education fails? maybe the essence of education is not as narrow as we think. When it comes to education, all the elements in every success for us must always be graduates who are highly educated with certificates in order to get a job. That way it will sound like a failure, but that doesn't mean education in formal schools is considered unimportant. What is the meaning of a certificate today when everyone can access knowledge for free. I will not blame the unemployment status if the government opens vacancies according to its capacity. Most of these days the government opens job vacancies with the condition that they must be certified, but look at India, a country whose education level is not even due to a high population but behind not having school certificates, many extraordinary skills. Big companies in the world will have Indians in them.

Back in essence education there will be a curriculum. Now, this is the point of adjustment that the government must pay attention to. Curriculum 4.0 towards the digitalization era. Unfortunately, there are still countries that focus on 3 aspects and the cognitive aspect is always prioritized. Meanwhile, at this time the skills that are included in the psychomotor aspect are not developed. As a result, many unemployed university graduates understand the theory but are not accompanied by qualified skills.
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Education will give us knowledge and how we can apply that knowledge is up to us. Don't blame education when you don't get a job. Try to think like this, when you invest, with the same strategy, the same chart, and the same market, there will be winners and losers. So is the error here due to the people or the market or the wrong method? The knowledge may be the same, but the operation and application will be different, thereby giving different results. Education gives us the basics, and it's our job to turn that basics into a skill and strength for us.
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Education naturally doesn't ensure a job. It actually factors in more than your skill, which includes your social capability as well as knowledge on knowing how to find jobs that are well paid. Education is like a single pillar that you build, but there's a lot of self-study/research that you have to do to build the other pillars. Heck you can build the education pillar part yourself given enough time imo.

I think the biggest thing education gives you is a certification that you went to one, and that's it. It sets a certain criteria of what to expect from you so companies hiring can easily see what you can and can't bring, letting them make an easy jdugement of your capabilities.
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It's good to have this notion, but not everyone thinks so especially the 90's and older generations. In developing countries, work is the most sought after career and is even a measure of success for several reasons:
- The influence of parents and the environment
- Education orientation
- Privilege

So that education is believed to be a bridge to work because that is the only thing that is considered successful.
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School does not guarantee anything.

It does and what it is that it guarantee? Those things are as basic as the ability to expose your knowledge. It gives you the reading and writing to help you internalize your knowledge and bring your potential out to face the challenges of the world and that is why you see many grand breaking histories, achievements and innovation in technology and digital development is not just the work of dollard but those that have excelled in education and skill acquisition. Education those not guarantee that you will get a job true, in fact whoever thinks of staying on a job all their lives is bereaved of idea but education certainly guarantee certain things and most of the things you have said on the body of your post are not achievable if not for the common basic thing as knowledge improvement guarantee by education that is not only that of class room because education or school is both formal and informal levels.
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School does not guarantee anything. Schools were created to turn an individual into average, basic or default citizen with a set of basic skills and knowledge. High educations is not a guarantee of a successful life, good job either. Education is put on a flow. Students study with same old books (they might be looking fresh, but the material given there is same as it was 20-30 years ago). Try to remember any of your teachers - they dont look young or modern. They teach same what they has been taught, while the world around has gone far away in development.

An example, what can a kid get as an education, when we live in gadget and digital world, while in most countries on computer science lessons kids learn MS Word and MS Excel for two semesters. And in the university they surely study MS Access and basic MS Excel formulas as a part of bookkeeping and financial analysis for example.
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Due to this, most youth believe education as failed them after graduated for years without a job. Alot of graduate are into transportation and other minor stuff that are irrelevant to thier course of study to sustain their living.
Completely misleading graphic, that's why you never look at the unemployment rate alone:

Where you can see that the workforce participation level hasn't dropped that much at all, and if we ignore the drop caused by covid the participation rate was actually hitting ATH records in 2019.
Yeah, I think we can say there's many youth people are currently get a job and at the same time there's many youth still not getting any job. @OP seems like blame to the education and he hoping after graduated the whole youth will get a job. I think we're currently dealing with many millennial generation doesn't want to work if they got low salary since they think they can get better job with better payment.

Education doesn't even represent the real job because it's almost different, if your purpose to school is to get job, then it's already a wrong mindset.
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Due to this, most youth believe education as failed them after graduated for years without a job. Alot of graduate are into transportation and other minor stuff that are irrelevant to thier course of study to sustain their living.

Completely misleading graphic, that's why you never look at the unemployment rate alone:

So this is the unemployment level for 15-24



This might lead you to the wrong conclusion that percentage wise  twice as many young people are out of a job, while this is the employment level for the same age :

Where you can see that the workforce participation level hasn't dropped that much at all, and if we ignore the drop caused by covid the participation rate was actually hitting ATH records in 2019.
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My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No
Agree that education (especially at school) will not guarantee getting a job but through education young people are being prepared to live a good life when they enter the world of work, in developing countries without a certificate you will find it increasingly difficult to compete for work so education needed. What must be changed is that the education curriculum in schools does not only focus on knowledge that is not relevant to the world of work in the future but also teach skills.
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