Egad. 81,000 + Transactions Unconfirmed. Again. Ugh! - page 10.

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Quote from: Amph on February 22, 2017, 03:24:51 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on February 22, 2017, 03:15:15 AM

Quote from: Amph on February 22, 2017, 02:47:24 AM

there is one tricky way to lower your transaction fee on your sending, and it was always overlooked here

simply use a different wallet for every transaction, and avoid making transaction too big, the cost will remain at the minimum which will be equal to the average, right now still a bit high 40k satoshi

I'll try to use your advice next time, tnx. But would you be so kind to explain what do you mean by "avoid making transaction too big"?

And one more thing. Can we control the number of inputs using an online wallet? I think we can't unfortunately and that's why sometimes we find ourselves in situations like I was recently. I paid a decent fee for my transaction but the other guy(second input) paid nothing and the transaction was stuck for over 30 hours. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?

there are imput and output when you send your transaction, a transaction size is determinated by how many imput and output are added to it

by using a new wallet that only have one address, every time you need to spend, you have not added any imput or output because that wallet is brand new every time, and that address is used only one time

I don't know for other web wallets but using currently bc.i there is no the option the user to choose the address/es which he wants to spend from. Bc.i has an algorithm about it. More over even though is handy for mobile bitcoin payments using the functionality 'pairing smartphone with web account' it's extremely bad the computation of the transaction fees. I have the feeling that always without taking into account the network load their option 'after 60 minutes' is about 65sat/byte

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Is the lack of on chain scaling killing other business models like colored coins?

These systems make micro transactions, are they still viable?

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Right now, it has declined to 71,000+. This is definitely not good for the popular adoption of Bitcoin. What this situation essentially means is that if you are paying a smaller transaction fee, then you may need to wait for one or two days for the transaction to get confirmed. A logical solution could have been to increase the block size to 8MB, through a hard fork. But some shady people with questionable intentions are blocking this move.

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i think it is best that instead of making new topics with titles saying there are X number of unconfirmed transactions we need to start making topics talking about solutions and how to force those solutions on miners.

otherwise we talking about thousands of transactions being unconfirmed is not constructive.

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Quote from: Betwrong on February 22, 2017, 03:15:15 AM

Quote from: Amph on February 22, 2017, 02:47:24 AM

there is one tricky way to lower your transaction fee on your sending, and it was always overlooked here

simply use a different wallet for every transaction, and avoid making transaction too big, the cost will remain at the minimum which will be equal to the average, right now still a bit high 40k satoshi

I'll try to use your advice next time, tnx. But would you be so kind to explain what do you mean by "avoid making transaction too big"?

And one more thing. Can we control the number of inputs using an online wallet? I think we can't unfortunately and that's why sometimes we find ourselves in situations like I was recently. I paid a decent fee for my transaction but the other guy(second input) paid nothing and the transaction was stuck for over 30 hours. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?

also another way which you may already be using is that you can start using "compressed private keys" which most new wallets are now using. these private keys start with "K" or "L"" and when you make a transaction, the signature they create is slightly smaller than the "uncompressed" private keys starting with "5" making your fees a tiny bit cheaper.

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I see many miners are not active for 24 hours and maybe they will come up when the morning enjoy an additional fee piled up

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Quote from: Betwrong on February 22, 2017, 03:15:15 AM

Quote from: Amph on February 22, 2017, 02:47:24 AM

there is one tricky way to lower your transaction fee on your sending, and it was always overlooked here

simply use a different wallet for every transaction, and avoid making transaction too big, the cost will remain at the minimum which will be equal to the average, right now still a bit high 40k satoshi

I'll try to use your advice next time, tnx. But would you be so kind to explain what do you mean by "avoid making transaction too big"?

And one more thing. Can we control the number of inputs using an online wallet? I think we can't unfortunately and that's why sometimes we find ourselves in situations like I was recently. I paid a decent fee for my transaction but the other guy(second input) paid nothing and the transaction was stuck for over 30 hours. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?

there are imput and output when you send your transaction, a transaction size is determinated by how many imput and output are added to it

by using a new wallet that only have one address, every time you need to spend, you have not added any imput or output because that wallet is brand new every time, and that address is used only one time

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Quote from: Amph on February 22, 2017, 02:47:24 AM

there is one tricky way to lower your transaction fee on your sending, and it was always overlooked here

simply use a different wallet for every transaction, and avoid making transaction too big, the cost will remain at the minimum which will be equal to the average, right now still a bit high 40k satoshi

I'll try to use your advice next time, tnx. But would you be so kind to explain what do you mean by "avoid making transaction too big"?

And one more thing. Can we control the number of inputs using an online wallet? I think we can't unfortunately and that's why sometimes we find ourselves in situations like I was recently. I paid a decent fee for my transaction but the other guy(second input) paid nothing and the transaction was stuck for over 30 hours. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?

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Quote from: Winner on February 22, 2017, 01:44:14 AM

This type of thing happens pretty often and the people that use Bitcoin BTC should already know of the consequences of sending money via Bitcoin.

what consequences? there shouldn't be any consequences to begin with. if the block size is increased and if there were no spam attack there should have been any problem at all.

Quote from: Winner on February 22, 2017, 01:44:14 AM

The transactions could get quicker if the person pays a large fee ($6.00+). Yet I know it would be easier if the person purchases an item with a debit/credit card, personally that feeling of paying with the computer is pretty cool.

bitcoin is not about "paying with a computer" if that is what you want then use credit cards online. and also using debit/credit cards has 0 fees when purchasing stuff where i live!

and if we end up paying high fees, crazy like $6 or even 1-2 bucks then that would be death of bitcoin as a currency.

Quote from: Winner on February 22, 2017, 01:44:14 AM

If anyone wants faster transactions while paying low transaction fees then visit this website to accelerate the transaction:

Code:

https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

viabtc is a good service but it is not a solution. it is a temporary get away if you are lucky, since they have small portion of the hashrate and obviously mine few blocks a day.

we need a serious solution for the block size and also fighting spam attacks.

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there is one tricky way to lower your transaction fee on your sending, and it was always overlooked here

simply use a different wallet for every transaction, and avoid making transaction too big, the cost will remain at the minimum which will be equal to the average, right now still a bit high 40k satoshi

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Quote from: Slark on February 22, 2017, 01:29:52 AM

Quote from: sherlock_h on February 22, 2017, 01:20:22 AM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on February 22, 2017, 12:44:06 AM

Yep, I have two unconfirmed transactions. I actually bought something online with bitcoin, and now it's not going to ship until my payment makes it through the blockchain. Fuck this. It would have been SOOOOO much easier to pay with a debit card. This is the absolute LAST TIME I spend bitcoin. If anyone is wondering why bitcoin will fail as a currency, it's this.

Not only you. More than 24 hours here... This is killing us.

Actually I bought special games bundle from G2A.com today for BTC.
I gotta say that my purchase was confirmed within couple minutes (they are using BitPay to process their BTC transactions).
So when you include hefty amount of fee there is no problem with unconfirmed transactions - it is unfortunately a workaround rather than solution for the problem.

Also, if your transaction is stuck - you can use Transaction Accelerator to push it: https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

I was caught in the middle of the storm... Three transactions on the same day. Thanks for pointing out this tool, I hope it works.

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This type of thing happens pretty often and the people that use Bitcoin BTC should already know of the consequences of sending money via Bitcoin. The transactions could get quicker if the person pays a large fee ($6.00+). Yet I know it would be easier if the person purchases an item with a debit/credit card, personally that feeling of paying with the computer is pretty cool.

If anyone wants faster transactions while paying low transaction fees then visit this website to accelerate the transaction:

Code:

https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

Note that the max accelerations on the website is limited to only 100 transactions per hour.

Or click open the Client then close it. Keep doing it to get more peers.

Edit: Slark posted it as well, thanks.

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Quote from: Undermood on February 22, 2017, 12:39:30 AM

there are a lot of problems in the network. I encountered one issue of the tx size expansion with one input and one output, whose size is 3.5k byte, insane.

click on that little blue link saying ON in front of ADVANCED VIEW on blockchain.info/tx/.... and you realize that it is not one input and one output, instead it is multiple inputs on the left size but coming from one address so BC.I is only showing 1 address (also don't mistake address with input)

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I have just sent some bitcoin with 20,000 satoshi as fee for my 191 bytes transaction and it got confirmed in first block. This fee is still low when moving large amount of bitcoin so increasing fee during situation like this is enough to get it through.

However this block size issue will encourage people to use other alts for sure.

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Quote from: sherlock_h on February 22, 2017, 01:20:22 AM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on February 22, 2017, 12:44:06 AM

Yep, I have two unconfirmed transactions. I actually bought something online with bitcoin, and now it's not going to ship until my payment makes it through the blockchain. Fuck this. It would have been SOOOOO much easier to pay with a debit card. This is the absolute LAST TIME I spend bitcoin. If anyone is wondering why bitcoin will fail as a currency, it's this.

Not only you. More than 24 hours here... This is killing us.

Actually I bought special games bundle from G2A.com today for BTC.
I gotta say that my purchase was confirmed within couple minutes (they are using BitPay to process their BTC transactions).
So when you include hefty amount of fee there is no problem with unconfirmed transactions - it is unfortunately a workaround rather than solution for the problem.

Also, if your transaction is stuck - you can use Transaction Accelerator to push it: https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on February 22, 2017, 12:44:06 AM

Yep, I have two unconfirmed transactions. I actually bought something online with bitcoin, and now it's not going to ship until my payment makes it through the blockchain. Fuck this. It would have been SOOOOO much easier to pay with a debit card. This is the absolute LAST TIME I spend bitcoin. If anyone is wondering why bitcoin will fail as a currency, it's this.

Not only you. More than 24 hours here... This is killing us.

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Yes, this is something that is very annoying and will probably give you a bad effect. For we all don't have plenty of time to continue to oversee every transaction is confirmed. The problem now is the growth of the bitcoin's getting high, but the makers of the bitcoin failed to appear for any growth. I have the same problem like this, and this is very disappointing. So, I now have started saving bitcoin into warehouses and waiting for the right time to use it again

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Yep, I have two unconfirmed transactions. I actually bought something online with bitcoin, and now it's not going to ship until my payment makes it through the blockchain. Fuck this. It would have been SOOOOO much easier to pay with a debit card. This is the absolute LAST TIME I spend bitcoin. If anyone is wondering why bitcoin will fail as a currency, it's this.

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Quote from: Undermood on February 22, 2017, 12:39:30 AM

there are a lot of problems in the network. I encountered one issue of the tx size expansion with one input and one output, whose size is 3.5k byte, insane.

That is very not likely. Tx size is contingent upon number of inputs and outputs.

Can you please post the transaction you are referring to.

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