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legendary
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here is part of my review

not to repeat previous discussions, I have seen that most of the shortcomings have already been identified.

My first impression, of the visual part of the service, is quite satisfactory. I am a supporter of minimal design, and everything is clear and simple as it should be for such a service. it was clear to me at every moment what part of the process I was in, without superfluous site searches and potentially ambiguous options.

whether there has already been a discussion, why is a guarantee letter in json file?

I don't like the way the fee is charged, only, in the end, do we see only the percentage of how much will be deducted. it seems rather non-transparent. For example, I would like to send exactly 0.5BTC, not reduced by some percentage. so I want to have the option to send 0.5 + 1% up to 3% for the fee. Output address can receive a guaranteed amount.

I checked the IP address where the domain is located. By traceroute, it's 190.115.18.168. There I find potential problems something that should not be on a money receiving site. When I try to open this IP address in the browser (tested in Firefox, Chrome, Brave, and Opera) they warn me of a dangerous and unsecured page


when I ignore this message and still continue, the [banned mixer] page opens neatly (with a "dangerous" warning in the address bar)
I tested IP 190.115.18.168 in some DNS checker tools, and I didn't find her listed anywhere on the blacklists. I would say that the problem did not come with the hosting service.


I made a mistake when sending BTC to the mixer, my Trezor set the default fee rate of 2 sat/B, now I have to wait for my stuck transaction. I will finish this when everything is completed.
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I would like to apply.

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Is this still open? I saw in the spreadsheet that there are less than 25 reviews. So I think it is open.

I found this just now.

If it is still possible, I would like to apply.

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Hi GazetaBitcoin, thank you for your fast reply on our questions!

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4. When switching the website localization to Chinese, from the button placed on the top-right of homepage, China's flag is not displayed. Besides, the "N" from "CN" is also not entirely displayed.

Can you please let us know which browser you used when you saw this? We have tried various browsers, Tor Browser included, and everywhere it looks just fine. To identify and optimize this we would like to know how exactly you saw this.

The issue happens to me on Firefox browser, on any version of it (I am usually keeping it updated). The issue also happened on Tor browser. If it matters, desktop resolution is 1920x1080. Please see the pictures below for more information.

This image shows the missing Chinese flag and the corrupted "N" from "CN" on Firefox browser, clear web address of UniJoin.

This image shows the missing Chinese flag and the corrupted "N" from "CN" on Tor browser, .onion web address of UniJoin.

As you see, in both cases the right vertical bar ("|") of the "N" is barely visible and its color is pink.

You are right, it is a frontend issue related to responsiveness. It seems that it happens when it is set to Chinese, and when it is set to Spanish, only the flag is not displayed. We will fix this very soon, thank you for bringing it to our attention.

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7. Still on the "One Last Step Before Mixing Your Coins!" page, there is a warning, saying "If no funds are received within the remaining time, this link will be deleted [...]". However, there is no time counter displayed there.

Actually, there is a countdown on the middle of the page, right above the wallet address with the QR Code. Here again, please let us know what browser and what options you are using. Probably it's because of the security level you are using on the tor browser which disables some features.

I tried again today and it seems that the issue does not reproduce anymore. The counter is displayed:



We are grateful that you tested this and gave us feedback again!

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Other than that, please also see my comment from the other topic started by Royse, also dedicated to UniJoin reviews. Maybe you will find that one useful as well Smiley

Of course, we will check your comment on that other topic, too. Thank you again for your reply and if there is still anything we can help you with, please drop us a message.
legendary
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Hello UniJoin, thank you for the reply. Please find below my answers to your questions.

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4. When switching the website localization to Chinese, from the button placed on the top-right of homepage, China's flag is not displayed. Besides, the "N" from "CN" is also not entirely displayed.

Can you please let us know which browser you used when you saw this? We have tried various browsers, Tor Browser included, and everywhere it looks just fine. To identify and optimize this we would like to know how exactly you saw this.

The issue happens to me on Firefox browser, on any version of it (I am usually keeping it updated). The issue also happened on Tor browser. If it matters, desktop resolution is 1920x1080. Please see the pictures below for more information.


This image shows the missing Chinese flag and the corrupted "N" from "CN" on Firefox browser, clear web address of UniJoin.


This image shows the missing Chinese flag and the corrupted "N" from "CN" on Tor browser, .onion web address of UniJoin.

As you see, in both cases the right vertical bar ("|") of the "N" is barely visible and its color is pink.



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7. Still on the "One Last Step Before Mixing Your Coins!" page, there is a warning, saying "If no funds are received within the remaining time, this link will be deleted [...]". However, there is no time counter displayed there.

Actually, there is a countdown on the middle of the page, right above the wallet address with the QR Code. Here again, please let us know what browser and what options you are using. Probably it's because of the security level you are using on the tor browser which disables some features.

I tried again today and it seems that the issue does not reproduce anymore. The counter is displayed:





Other than that, please also see my comment from the other topic started by Royse, also dedicated to UniJoin reviews. Maybe you will find that one useful as well Smiley
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Hi Jescbitcoin, thank you very much for your feedback!

Premium review and suggestion spreadsheet#1

UniJoin is a site where you can transfer your cryptos to another crypto and to yourself, I consider it a good idea when you want to have, for example, another type or style of cryptocurrency, the steps to follow are easy but you should have a more positive feedback part where you show that the transaction is in process without any inconvenience on the part of the user who is going to receive the desired cryptocurrency unless there is an error, the return to the crypto wallet should be taken into account, companies use internal crypto exchange systems but This, on the other hand, is external, so when returning the cryptocurrency it will be less due to the return commission due to the fact that the website is external, the advantage of UniJoin is that the processing time is fast and it does not usually take days to process of the mixer, so the terms must be respected according to what the client is looking for and they must not show any type of distrust and once the payment is completed, It performs the processing of the mixer where it is exchanged for the other cryptocurrency pending the reception of the crypto and the process is completed.

This is correct, the process is not done all internally. To receive the mixed coins back, there is a transaction fee, which is deducted from the overall mixing result. This is also mentioned in the Pricing page, the FAQs and the T&C.

We appreciate your honest feedback and are glad that you are satisfied with the overall result. If there are any other comments you would like to share with us, please write in this thread or in our /?ref=Aykf3BN]main thread.
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Hi LoyceV, thank you for your second feedback! We also apologize for the slow response; the low activity in this thread resulted in us prioritizing other important tasks and duties. Updates will be posted as soon as they are ready. We continue to be eager to hear your feedback and look forward to responding to it.

Using a third-party website to verify a signed message is terrible for privacy, but the site might work offline. I haven't been able to test that, because I haven't been able to verify the LoG. All I get is:
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Signature Verification Failed
I'll continue my review here. The delay is caused by me (Support Chat answered after 2 hours, I took 3 days to continue my testing):
Me:
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Can you walk me through verifying the LoG on 8gwifi.org, or any external tool? I still can not figure it out.
Support Chat:
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Of course! So first, visit the site https://8gwifi.org/rsasignverifyfunctions.jsp. After that, select Verify Signature option first.
Public Key: Enter the public key in the LoG including -----BEGIN PUBLIC KEY----- and -----END PUBLIC KEY-----
ClearText Message: Enter the content of SIGNATURE FORMAT in the letter of guarantee, but without memberCode and so on. Only the content that comes one line after with your real member code and so on.
Provide Signature Value: Enter the content of the signature in the Letter of Guarantee. Here without -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- and -----END SIGNATURE-----
You will also need to choose SHA256withRSA in the RSA Signature Algorithms below
Then it will show that the signature verification is passed
This verified the signed message. It might be good to add verification instructions to the website.
But 8gwifi.org's verification didn't work offline, so chances are the 8gwifi.org server now knows the details of my transaction.
After I verified the LoG, I made a deposit. I used a short delay to speed things up.

The public key is also in the footer of our website, which can be verified there. However, a detailed instruction to verify the letter of guarantee is a very good suggestion to increase the trust in our service.

From /en/terms-and-conditions]Terms and Conditions:
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The service is provided on a non-custodial basis.
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trustless CoinJoin
I'll get back to this later.
To conclude: it's not non-custodial, it's not trustless, and it's not coinjoin. I've said this before in a discussion with another mixer: you're in the business of trust. People need to be able to absolutely trust you're going to do what you say you're going to do. Now it looks like you're using buzzwords to inspire confidence. All in all this does the opposite: if you lie about things that I know for sure are incorrect, how can I trust you on other promises, such as not keeping any logs?

We already mentioned that the Terms & Conditions will be updated. We will update you in this thread when it's done.

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One more thing: Support Chat rejects many normal characters, I can't say "can't" and I can't use (brackets). If that can be fixed, that would be great! It's annoying having to remove common characters for every message I post.

This is right, however, this is also due to security reasons. We don't allow different characters in the support chat because of possible security breaches such as Data injection into scripts, code injections, XSS injections, SQL injections.

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This completes my review. Sorry for doing it in several parts, but it was necessary to verify things before I could continue with confidence.

No problem at all, we really appreciate your detailed feedback again and will work on your suggestions. If there is anything else you would like to comment, please don't hesitate to write a comment again. You can also write in our main thread to ensure fast replies. Thank you one more time!
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Hi GazetaBitcoin, we have recently seen your last message that we didn't reply on your review. We really apologize for missing that out and thank you for reminding us! Your feedback is really important to us and we want to do our best to follow all of your suggestions.

Premium review and suggestion spreadsheet#10

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1. The first impression the website offered me was that it looks too crowded. Chosen colors are relaxing the eyes, but the homepage, to say the least, is overcrowded.

We chose this style of design and content, to not only target people that know what Bitcoin mixers are, but especially people that are newbies in this subject matter. That's why, for us, it's important to add all the important details to know what a Bitcoin Mixer is, why it's important and how it works. Also, to make it easier, we use different illustrations and animations.

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2. On the homepage there is a banner showing various companies (Yahoo!, Yahoo! Finance, Yahoo! Money, Cryptonews etc.) but the banner has no explanation to state why those companies are listed there. Perhaps they are partners on UniJoin, but, even so, there should be an indication for that (something like "Official Partners"). Moreover, when clicking on Yahoo! name, the displayed page is not Yahoo!'s homepage, but Yahoo! News homepage. Maybe this name should be replaced with Yahoo! News.

3. If the above mentioned banner is a list of official partners, then maybe it can be mentioned at the bottom of the page, for making homepage look less crowded.

Thanks for this feedback. We can add this in the mentioned section. And you are right, it's not posted on the homepage but on various other sites of Yahoo!, which are: Yahoo! News, Yahoo! Finance, Yahoo! Money, Yahoo! Lifestyle & Yahoo! Entertainment.

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4. When switching the website localization to Chinese, from the button placed on the top-right of homepage, China's flag is not displayed. Besides, the "N" from "CN" is also not entirely displayed.

Can you please let us know which browser you used when you saw this? We have tried various browsers, Tor Browser included, and everywhere it looks just fine. To identify and optimize this we would like to know how exactly you saw this.

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5. Another element of overcrowding the website is the presence of "Start Mixing" / "Mix Now" buttons, which appear everywhere. On home page these buttons appear in four places: on top-right corner of homepage, under the "Make your Crypto Finances Untraceable" title (both being on the upper area of homepage), under "Use UniJoin To Anonymize Your Cryptos" title and under "Your Anonymity Is Our Priority" title (both being on the lower area of homepage). Besides, when accessing any area of the website by clicking its various buttons, on each section there is again a "Start Mixing" or "Mix Now" button. Example: click on the buttons from the top of homepage - Why UniJoin, Referral, Pricing, FAQ, Blog, Contact Us. On each of these pages there is a "Start Mixing" / "Mix Now" button. It seems somehow pushy for the user, like the website cares only for mixing coins and thus it tries to determine the user to click on mixing buttons on absolutely any area of the website. Perhaps it would be a better idea to have the button displayed only once or twice on homepage and to be removed from the other website sections, thus having a section of the website dedicated to mixing the coins. As comparison, image an email provider homepage where you would see in 4 places on the homepage the fields for entering user / password. Furthermore, there is an inconsistency regarding the name of these buttons, as in one place the name is "Start Mixing" and in another place the name is "Mix Now". Perhaps, for consistency matters, all these buttons could have a unique name.

That's really a great feedback, thank you for that! We will see which buttons to remove to not make it seem to pushy for the users and don't make it too overcrowded with the CTA buttons.

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6. When the user starts the mixing process, on the page named "One Last Step Before Mixing Your Coins!" is a field named "Order Status Link". The URL written there appears truncated. Perhaps the respective field can be enlarged a bit, thus the entire URL is visible?

For web design and user experience purposes, we found it important to have all the three details at the top, to have a better overview about this mixing order and that's the reason, why the box for the order status link is so small. However, what we can do, is removing the Order ID from there (as it is already mentioned in the order status link) and lengthen the box for the order status link, to make it fully visible. However, the copy button also copies the whole link.

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7. Still on the "One Last Step Before Mixing Your Coins!" page, there is a warning, saying "If no funds are received within the remaining time, this link will be deleted [...]". However, there is no time counter displayed there.

Actually, there is a countdown on the middle of the page, right above the wallet address with the QR Code. Here again, please let us know what browser and what options you are using. Probably it's because of the security level you are using on the tor browser which disables some features.

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8. Transfer-wise, the system is working on its basic parameters, meaning that I successfully received my mixed funds with the default delay time. However, I would suggest to have this test performed on various settings of delayed time, in order to be sure that it works properly on any amount of time set as delay.

We are glad that this has worked well. Almost always, the mixed funds are sent within the transfer delay. However, if a large amount is to be mixed, it has to be fully coinjoined, and that can take more than just an hour. But, of course, there is a message that states just that, to clarify the users.

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9. Other than these, I tested the website menu functionality and all buttons are working.

10. Localization-wise, I would advise to UniJoin to try to recruit natives from all the languages in which the website is localized, in order to perform a full proofreading check and spot all translation problems. Seriousness in writing, having no typos, having all the text localized not by translating the words, but also idiomatic, may be crucial in giving a first good impression to website visitors. Otherwise, if many grammar / typos are encountered on various localizations, users may think that the website admins are illiterate and they may lose their enthusiasm in using the services. So far I searched the text only on English localization and it looks fine, but I can not say anything about any other language supported by the website, as I don't speak the respective languages.

We already did this with a few languages and there are more to come. Thank you.

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I will end here this feedback, but I will come back in case I will find any other bug on the website or in case I'll have more suggestions.

Congratulations, UniJoin!

We really thank you for the detailed feedback GazetaBitcoin! There are points and suggestions, which help us to optimize our page according to the needs of our clients. If there is anything else you have noticed, please don't hesitate to drop a comment again. And again, we apologize for replying late to your feedback!
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legendary
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Yes, I remember your feedback... however, this was not a good reason for not replying...
Not responding gave me the impression I touched a fundamental problem in the mixer. The "unique selling points" they use to stand out from the competition aren't there.
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Gazeta, thanks for the mention.

Welcome Smiley



They never replied to the final part of my review.

Awww, don't be greedy, at least they replied to you before, while they never replied to me Smiley

I felt I was quite brutal

Yes, I remember your feedback... however, this was not a good reason for not replying...



in the end, a review needs to be posted here on this topic, right?

Yes, here, similar to all other feedbacks.
legendary
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We have Kavelj22, examplens and Little Mouse left.
Please leave your reviews

Have these members left any feedback after all? I mean examplens and Little Mouse... I haven't seen theirs...

Besides, is it just me and DarkStar_ the only ones to which UniJoin never replied...? Maybe they forgot, but I was curious if the feedback was of any help... I don't know how DS_ feels, but I feel somehow bad, as I don't even know if they noticed my feedback or if they considered it not even worth for replying to it...

Excepting the two of us, as far as I see, they replied to all other users, which makes me wonder...  Huh

Some things in my RL have become very complicated in the last month, I had very little time for online duties and mostly using mobile devices. now I'm next to the wallet and my desktop and I am going to mix coins immediately right now.
thanks for this reminder.

in the end, a review needs to be posted here on this topic, right?
legendary
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Have these members left any feedback after all?
Not in this topic.

From /en/terms-and-conditions]Terms and Conditions:
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The service is provided on a non-custodial basis.
~
trustless CoinJoin
I'll get back to this later.
To conclude: it's not non-custodial, it's not trustless, and it's not coinjoin.
I was hoping for a reply to this too. The coinjoin-part was more or less cleared already, but the other 2 claims are definitely not true. The fact that a normal coinjoin transaction is actually trustless and non-custodial makes it even more misleading.
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Gazeta, thanks for the mention.
I have tested unijoin and noted the points last week if I can remember correctly but sadly forgot to post the details here. Will get back soon with the update. Was in vacation and also having depression with some real life activities I'm going with.
legendary
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We have Kavelj22, examplens and Little Mouse left.
Please leave your reviews

Have these members left any feedback after all? I mean examplens and Little Mouse... I haven't seen theirs...

Besides, is it just me and DarkStar_ the only ones to which UniJoin never replied...? Maybe they forgot, but I was curious if the feedback was of any help... I don't know how DS_ feels, but I feel somehow bad, as I don't even know if they noticed my feedback or if they considered it not even worth for replying to it...

Excepting the two of us, as far as I see, they replied to all other users, which makes me wonder...  Huh
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We have Kavelj22, examplens and Little Mouse left.
Please leave your reviews as Unijoin has another promotion to come after this.

Cheers,
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Premium review and suggestion spreadsheet#1

UniJoin is a site where you can transfer your cryptos to another crypto and to yourself, I consider it a good idea when you want to have, for example, another type or style of cryptocurrency, the steps to follow are easy but you should have a more positive feedback part where you show that the transaction is in process without any inconvenience on the part of the user who is going to receive the desired cryptocurrency unless there is an error, the return to the crypto wallet should be taken into account, companies use internal crypto exchange systems but This, on the other hand, is external, so when returning the cryptocurrency it will be less due to the return commission due to the fact that the website is external, the advantage of UniJoin is that the processing time is fast and it does not usually take days to process of the mixer, so the terms must be respected according to what the client is looking for and they must not show any type of distrust and once the payment is completed, It performs the processing of the mixer where it is exchanged for the other cryptocurrency pending the reception of the crypto and the process is completed.
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Hi Khaled0111, thank you too for your detailed and honest review!

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- UnjCode, the popup that appears after clicking the "?" button does not tell you what the UniCode is or what it is used for. You'll have to wait till the last step to get that information.

We will add this information.

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- Checking address validity (taproot!), I tried different addresses' formats and changed few of their characters and, indeed, the form detects when you enter an invalid address. But when I provided a valid P2TR address I picked randomly from a block explorer, the form said it's invalid! I believe a service designed mainly to enhance users' privacy must support taproot (for payout addresses).

We have considered taproot addresses in the development, however there must be still a mistake. We will fix this very soon.

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- The warning message in that page says: "the fees range from 1% to 3% and are randomly generated as soon as an incoming payment is detected"!
Why do you generate the fees after detecting the incoming transaction? Someone might accuse you of charging fees depending on the transaction amount ( the higher the amount the higher the fees)! You should either let the user customize the fees manually or generate and publish it from the start of the session.


As described in our pricing page, the fees are generated between 1-3% with 4 decimals. It doesn't depend on anything, but is randomly generated.

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- The warning message says that only funds send within the remaining time will be accepted but it doesn't say what will happen to funds send after that, will it be lost or it can be recovered? the same for sent funds below the minimum amount (0.001btc)? What will happen if someone send coins, your system detects it while it's still unconfirmed, then the user replaces it by bumping the fees thinking he is helping speed up the process?

Every user will contact us in the support section to get an update on his mixing order. So when a mistake happens, which should not, as we are clearly mentioning the conditions on the website, he will contact us and we either process the mixing order or send the user a refund.

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   - Letter of Guarantee, both LoyceV and  DarkStar_ are correct, verifying the signed message shouldn't be that complicated and the message should include the date when it was generated.
Also, you should publish your public key somewhere else other than on your website. You can upload it to public key servers or post it on your ann thread here. This will help in case your servers get compromised and the attacker publish his public key instead of yours.
The aim of the LoG isn't only to allow restoring a session but, and most importantly, to verify that the deposit address was generated by you. So validating the signed message and having the public key on your website doesn't mean anything.

Regarding the letter of Guarantee, we will add the date to the file and also we will add the public key to several other places, such as Github and more.

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   - The warning message, again, in this page says that the payout may take longer than the preset transfer delay if the CoinJoin hasn't been completed yet and the transaction fees will be charged to the customer. You had to be transparent about this from the beginning (remember that I didn't reed your ToS).

We will consider it showing it in the first steps of the mixing process but it's also mentioned in the pricing page. Normally, users check the pricings before creating a mixing order.

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I'm not an expert when it comes to blockchain analysis But when I looked up the payout transaction on a block explorer, I saw that the inputs used (UTXOs) by that transaction were created before I made the deposit transaction (this is not always true for all orders). So, this means there is no direct link between the coins I sent and the mixed coins I received, at least not through UniJoin.

As NeuroticFish mentioned, we prepare coins that are coinjoined already to accelerate the mixing process for our users. In the end, the funds are anonymous and there is no link between sender and receiver. Also, CoinJoin technology is used.

Thank you again for your detailed feedback, it helps us a lot to improve our service!
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