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DeathAndTaxes

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Quote from: dyask on February 13, 2014, 01:28:12 AM

It isn't the equivalent because mailing pennies isn't going to break anyone's mailbox, but this did break some wallets.

If it broke anyone's wallet then that wallet it so horribly defective that they are in the running for beating MtGox when it comes to worst wallet implementation ever. You should run for the exit now, because if a wallet can't properly handle an unconfirmed transaction who knows what else they got wrong. I mean someone sent you money. A wallet that can't handle that is a joke. If your bitcoin wallet breaks when someone sends you bitcoins that is generally speaking a bad sign.

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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on February 12, 2014, 06:18:44 PM

Quote from: VolanicEruptor on February 12, 2014, 08:01:14 AM

So it turns out my concerns were semi-legit? Cheesy

No, however you deserve credit for riling up the clueless.

Bitcoin addresses are public knowledge much like postal addresses. Say one day I felt stupid and decided I wanted to mail 1 US penny to 10,000 random postal addresses.

Do you know what could happen? You might open your mailbox one day and .... HOLY CRAP there would be a penny in there. How could this happen? You didn't ask for a penny and it was mailed from some anonymous mailbox? What the hell is going on? Has the security of the postal mail system been broken? Is someone tracking you? What if this is part of some 51% postal attack? I heard they are "dusting" your finances with this penny so when you deposit it then they can hack your bank account from the inside out. OH NOES! CALL HOMELAND SECURITY! We need to stop this. Someone should put penny detectors on all mail drops to ensure hackers aren't able to destroy the world economy by mailing pennies. We need to act now. The entire postal system as we know it could collapse within days if people can just mail things to other people and stuff.

This is the digital equivalent of that, and the reaction is just as silly.

It isn't the equivalent because mailing pennies isn't going to break anyone's mailbox, but this did break some wallets. Granted the problem is software and that can be fixed. I don't like this anymore than junk mail all the time. Personally I hate junk mail. Additionally my mailbox doesn't remember every single piece of junk mail ever sent to it.

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I have a paper wallet with a small (<1btc) balance, that gets sent a small amount from Coinbase every two weeks. This is only a few months old, never been swept.

A couple of days ago I noticed the 1Enjoy and 1Sochi deposits. Tonight I have over 1200 of them from different addresses.

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Aww, and here I was getting excited that someone was sending me a trillionth of a bitcoin at random. Hello to 18FhZgVNKPAZTC41eosNgTnbGemvXxnMvY, whoever you are.

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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on February 12, 2014, 06:31:02 PM

You didn't actually think when people were talking about the DDOS attack on exchanges there were talking about this send a satoshi transaction did you?

There is a real attack going on which has absolutely nothing with this thread.

I thought that it was related to the dust transactions.. my bad

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Quote from: VolanicEruptor on February 12, 2014, 06:27:30 PM

According to the last 10 news posts at blockchain.info, there is a lot more to it than a penny in someones mailbox.. it seems to be a little more complicated than that

You are saying that you believe that send you a satoshi is the same thing as the ongoing DDOS attack? There is a real attack going on which has absolutely nothing with this thread.

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i'm gonna start sending a dahler to everyone's mailbox (yes i'm satoshi)

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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on February 12, 2014, 06:18:44 PM

Quote from: VolanicEruptor on February 12, 2014, 08:01:14 AM

So it turns out my concerns were semi-legit? Cheesy

No, however you deserve credit for riling up the clueless.

Bitcoin addresses are public knowledge much like postal addresses. Say one day I felt stupid and decided I wanted to mail 1 US penny to 10,000 random postal addresses.

Do you know what could happen? You might open your mailbox one day and .... HOLY CRAP there would be a penny in there. WTF? Huh

? How could this happen? You didn't ask for a penny and it was mailed from some anonymous mailbox? What the hell is going on? If someone tracking you? Is this part of some 51% postal attack? What if they are dusting your finances with this penny so when you deposit it then they can hack your bank account from the inside out. OH NOES! CALL HOMELAND SECURITY!

This is the digital equivalent of that, and the reaction is just as silly.

According to the last 10 news posts at blockchain.info, there is a lot more to it than a penny in someones mailbox.. it seems to be a little more complicated than that

DeathAndTaxes

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Gerald Davis

Quote from: VolanicEruptor on February 12, 2014, 08:01:14 AM

So it turns out my concerns were semi-legit? Cheesy

No, however you deserve credit for riling up the clueless.

Bitcoin addresses are public knowledge much like postal addresses. Say one day I felt stupid and decided I wanted to mail 1 US penny to 10,000 random postal addresses.

Do you know what could happen? You might open your mailbox one day and .... HOLY CRAP there would be a penny in there. How could this happen? You didn't ask for a penny and it was mailed from some anonymous mailbox? What the hell is going on? Has the security of the postal mail system been broken? Is someone tracking you? What if this is part of some 51% postal attack? I heard they are "dusting" your finances with this penny so when you deposit it then they can hack your bank account from the inside out. OH NOES! CALL HOMELAND SECURITY! We need to stop this. Someone should put penny detectors on all mail drops to ensure hackers aren't able to destroy the world economy by mailing pennies. We need to act now. The entire postal system as we know it could collapse within days if people can just mail things to other people and stuff.

This is the digital equivalent of that, and the reaction is just as silly.

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I got 4 emails from Blockchain about a failed 1 Satoshi transaction. This is getting kinda weird...

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I also received a 1 Satoshi transaction, but Electrum seems to ignore it (I only found out, because I was checking the address for something). I got it after a payment I received got confirmed. I am guessing that this person has a script setup that checks the latest block for addresses and then automatically send a Satoshi to those addresses.

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Quote from: dyask on February 11, 2014, 10:59:10 PM

Quote from: apsvinet on February 11, 2014, 07:49:17 PM

I wouldn't complain if someone gave me free stuff.. Seriously tho, I can't really see anything to worry about.

That stupid 1 Satoshi spam may have cost me .05 BTC. It isn't much money but it has at least cost others LOTS of wasted time. Anytime someone is stealing your time it isn't free.

A wallet I was working with a vendor with got spammed. Their software won't transfer from a wallet with unconfirmed transactions. Since it was their wallet I'm at their mercy to manually transfer the funds because the connection between that wallet and my account was broken.

You can keep your free stuff! Angry

I did get the .05 BTC refunded. Blockchain has records so it just took time. What really irks me is I had to waste more than an hour over a small amount! I sincerely hope the spammers go bankrupt and it is terrible to feel that way.

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hm

Quote from: medUSA on February 12, 2014, 07:43:32 AM

Quote from: stompix on February 12, 2014, 07:28:12 AM

So , have those transactions been confirmed by somebody? I thought no pool will include them.

If I misled you, I just want to clarify:
I send away my own coins already in that address, leaving those 2 satoshis behind.

Those spams are over 25kb in size and should pay at least 0.0025btc in fees, but the tx only pays 0.0001btc.
So yes, no pool would include them.

No, you can still send transaction with no fee. You just have to wait a time, until they get confirmed. The problem with this spam transactions is, that every outout classified as dust (below 5500 satoshis). Maybe there can be some miner who include it some day.

btw: I got one satoshi now, too. From where did this guy get all this addresses? He just used alle addresses of the last block...

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So it turns out my concerns were semi-legit? Cheesy

On the first page I was speaking blasphemy Shocked

my severe paranoia is sometimes right

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Quote from: stompix on February 12, 2014, 07:28:12 AM

Quote from: medUSA on February 12, 2014, 06:58:58 AM

I received 2 of these satoshi spams too. They don't cause too much harm, just really annoying being there...
So, I just send all my unspent coins (total balance minus the 2 satoshis) to another address,
and let those satoshis rot there.... (out of sight, out of mind)

So , have those transactions been confirmed by somebody? I thought no pool will include them.

They'll just stay there unconfirmed most probably.

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Quote from: stompix on February 12, 2014, 07:28:12 AM

So , have those transactions been confirmed by somebody? I thought no pool will include them.

If I misled you, I just want to clarify:
I send away my own coins already in that address, leaving those 2 satoshis behind.

Those spams are over 25kb in size and should pay at least 0.0025btc in fees, but the tx only pays 0.0001btc.
So yes, no pool would include them.

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Quote from: medUSA on February 12, 2014, 06:58:58 AM

I received 2 of these satoshi spams too. They don't cause too much harm, just really annoying being there...
So, I just send all my unspent coins (total balance minus the 2 satoshis) to another address,
and let those satoshis rot there.... (out of sight, out of mind)

So , have those transactions been confirmed by somebody? I thought no pool will include them.

medUSA

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I received 2 of these satoshi spams too. They don't cause too much harm, just really annoying being there...
So, I just send all my unspent coins (total balance minus the 2 satoshis) to another address,
and let those satoshis rot there.... (out of sight, out of mind)

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hm

Quote from: Automatic on February 12, 2014, 05:03:54 AM

Quote from: Mitchell on February 12, 2014, 04:40:36 AM

Bitcoin wasn't created to deal with low value transactions as far as I know. If you want to send an amount that is lower then it's fee, then you are doing something stupid and wrong. But well, that's my opinion.

Honestly, if you're sending eight cents or less, I have no idea whom you are paying, but, if they don't let eight cents slide, they're pretty cheap.

I could send 8cent to everyone with a good post

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Quote from: Mitchell on February 12, 2014, 04:40:36 AM

Bitcoin wasn't created to deal with low value transactions as far as I know. If you want to send an amount that is lower then it's fee, then you are doing something stupid and wrong. But well, that's my opinion.

Honestly, if you're sending eight cents or less, I have no idea whom you are paying, but, if they don't let eight cents slide, they're pretty cheap.

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