Most scam casinos actually come from new casinos in this industry. Because others like gamblers and well-known influencers also planted in the minds of most gamblers that when a casino is new, the chances of you winning a lot of money are high.
It is these hyped things that they say are the ones that make an impression on the online gambling community, so many are victims of online casinos. The majority of people think that they will get a lot of money for a small amount in gambling, but they will realize in the end that they have lost a lot and even exceeded the small capital that they thought would be a big amount, but it turned out to be a big amount in the end. they will lose.
Topic: Enough to consider a casino scam? - page 12. (Read 3471 times)
There was a casino scam done with lasers vs a roulette wheel. It measured bias on which numbers best to bet on every turn, somehow they created a system that would put players into profit. The players won so much the casino came over and recognized lasers were being used. The players won millions so it actually went into a court case, the Judge decided no specific rule existed to say players may not use lasers on casino premises so he gave a court order for the winnings to be released to players despite their extra scientific help.
Maybe the judge thought it was good for science or academic endeavors, anyhow the casino lost but will have altered their rules and preconditions for play to include such genius inventions as gamesmanship outside of what they will ever allow as a win.
Maybe the judge thought it was good for science or academic endeavors, anyhow the casino lost but will have altered their rules and preconditions for play to include such genius inventions as gamesmanship outside of what they will ever allow as a win.
Interesting story, but I can't understand why would you refer to it as a scam. If all the player did was to use a laser to (I imagine) measure imperfections of the roulette wheel and take advantage of that, without tampering with it in any way - then I see nothing morally wrong with that. Good for him.
Assuming that whenever a player finds a way to shift the edge to his side it must be some sort of scam on his part is a bit unfair.
But it's amazing how creative people can get when there is money to be made.
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Thus, a clear Example of this was in 2021 when I was the rise of the NFT games, where I thought it would be something that they were Going well, in a good way, I lost money in those games, in the only game that I did not lose Nothing was in Axie, but it is no longer the pamper, so things move that way, the least expected to cheat it, I have been seeing how many Projects that come out of new casinos, where they Enforce all licenses , Kyc and everything, the players end up chewing,so Nothing is sure,the safe for me are the casinos that have enough Reputation in the forum.
Even though Axie is no longer the prom queen, she should always remember that she is still a contender for the crown in the future. The catch? Learn the rules of the game thoroughly before you even think about playing
And dealing with casinos is like eating a sandwich made of mystery meat. Know your customer processes and licences are massive, but do they always succeed? Just barely. Consider looking at services that have received positive feedback from their peers, or diversify your assets by purchasing shares in several blockchains. This seems straight out of a playbook for victorious people, doesn't it?
Gamblers like us help scam casino sites. Because when we carelessly start depositing without reading the rules of a casino site and lose those funds, we get excited and start calling the casino site a scam. So totally our fault and we are responsible for it. So before making a deposit at any casino site one should research the site thoroughly. Of course one should always focus on trusted casinos. and if one fails to recharge any casino site well then he shouldn’t definitely focus on the new site.
some gamblers come to a new site and try out a new casino just to see how the platform works. or to try to get a bonus that a new casino gives. I also do that sometimes, although I have a casino that I trust more. just in case I just used a small amount of money to try and get some experience in a new place.but I have proven to myself that when you are comfortable playing at a trusted casino, it is difficult to move to another place. Of course, the assessment of each gambler will always be different.
That’s why its very important to know about the casino before investing any money into it but if it’s actually a well reputed casino and they have declined your kyc verification I highly doubt it’s a scam considering the amount was 8000$. I say this keeping in mind that crypto currencies make insane amounts of money and they wouldn’t ruin their reputation over a small amount as 8000$.
We can't predict them enough but all we should do is our own bedt in ensuring that we have dealt with every single opportunities that may try to pull us into their trap, scam in gambling today is not a joke because they ensure that they come up with that thing they think entices you about gambling to get you captivated, that's why we must also not be too greedy or desperate in making online money from gambling.
What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Yes, I will definitely consider such casino as scam because that's exactly what scammers does by refusing to pay a gambler their proposed winning, which is why it's always advisable for gamblers to make research before using any new or old casino, so as to prevent ever having your funds confiscated by any scam casino.Quote
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
Yes, definitely that's an act of scam, but if you did followed the rules laid down for activating such bonuses and yet never got a single bonus, as such could be disappointing, and if I'm the one, I will never use such casino anymore.but eventually we could really be having to use that our own common sense on which we could really be able to spot out which is really that shady or having those red flags then you would really be
able to notice it out but if you are really that someone who doesnt really care at all and just proceed without any caution then you are really that susceptible when it comes to risk because
we know that casinos could neither be that legit or not. You wouldnt really be that dumb enough on not to notice things out. You should really be wary on whats happening around.
If you do want to save up yourself on the hassle on making some research then you should just simply stick into those traditional ones.
Thus, a clear Example of this was in 2021 when I was the rise of the NFT games, where I thought it would be something that they were Going well, in a good way, I lost money in those games, in the only game that I did not lose Nothing was in Axie, but it is no longer the pamper, so things move that way, the least expected to cheat it, I have been seeing how many Projects that come out of new casinos, where they Enforce all licenses , Kyc and everything, the players end up chewing,so Nothing is sure,the safe for me are the casinos that have enough Reputation in the forum.
That’s why its very important to know about the casino before investing any money into it but if it’s actually a well reputed casino and they have declined your kyc verification I highly doubt it’s a scam considering the amount was 8000$. I say this keeping in mind that crypto currencies make insane amounts of money and they wouldn’t ruin their reputation over a small amount as 8000$.
I don't consider $8000 a negligible amount of money. Apparently, any amount of money that is able to invoke the casino or sportsbook T&C as per either kyc or any other means to soke verification brought up, its a good enough amount. It might not look big, but with it being considered, it is just enough.Right, also it's important to understand that the casino itself can't affect KYC results and their acceptance. They are just following the rules in their jurisdiction. If they must, by the rules, make a customer to go through the KYC process if he/she wants to withdraw over $5,000, they do it then. There's nothing they can do about it without risking to lose their license.
Should they warn about it in their ToS? Absolutely. It's their fault they didn't. But they are not that evil as one might think. They are not declining KYC verification on purpose.
You saying, they can't affect kyc results and acceptance, is that supposed to mean the authorisation/clarification of a kyc document isn't done by the casino or sportsbook? Because, that would mean a lot for customers as, any means to some bias would be cut off and ensure more trust in the system.Should they warn about it in their ToS? Absolutely. It's their fault they didn't. But they are not that evil as one might think. They are not declining KYC verification on purpose.
Still, users needs to be familiar with critical parts of T&C of there gambling site and adhere to them as well.
There was a casino scam done with lasers vs a roulette wheel. It measured bias on which numbers best to bet on every turn, somehow they created a system that would put players into profit. The players won so much the casino came over and recognized lasers were being used. The players won millions so it actually went into a court case, the Judge decided no specific rule existed to say players may not use lasers on casino premises so he gave a court order for the winnings to be released to players despite their extra scientific help.
Maybe the judge thought it was good for science or academic endeavors, anyhow the casino lost but will have altered their rules and preconditions for play to include such genius inventions as gamesmanship outside of what they will ever allow as a win.
Maybe the judge thought it was good for science or academic endeavors, anyhow the casino lost but will have altered their rules and preconditions for play to include such genius inventions as gamesmanship outside of what they will ever allow as a win.
That’s why its very important to know about the casino before investing any money into it but if it’s actually a well reputed casino and they have declined your kyc verification I highly doubt it’s a scam considering the amount was 8000$. I say this keeping in mind that crypto currencies make insane amounts of money and they wouldn’t ruin their reputation over a small amount as 8000$.
Right, also it's important to understand that the casino itself can't affect KYC results and their acceptance. They are just following the rules in their jurisdiction. If they must, by the rules, make a customer to go through the KYC process if he/she wants to withdraw over $5,000, they do it then. There's nothing they can do about it without risking to lose their license.
Should they warn about it in their ToS? Absolutely. It's their fault they didn't. But they are not that evil as one might think. They are not declining KYC verification on purpose.
That’s why its very important to know about the casino before investing any money into it but if it’s actually a well reputed casino and they have declined your kyc verification I highly doubt it’s a scam considering the amount was 8000$. I say this keeping in mind that crypto currencies make insane amounts of money and they wouldn’t ruin their reputation over a small amount as 8000$.
Right, also it's important to understand that the casino itself can't affect KYC results and their acceptance. They are just following the rules in their jurisdiction. If they must, by the rules, make a customer to go through the KYC process if he/she wants to withdraw over $5,000, they do it then. There's nothing they can do about it without risking to lose their license.
Should they warn about it in their ToS? Absolutely. It's their fault they didn't. But they are not that evil as one might think. They are not declining KYC verification on purpose.
As op had stated submitted his KYC document and still the casino had not confirm it. He will need to wait for for more time for it to be confirmed than thinking that the casino is a scam. That is it the we can tell whether a casino is a scam or not. At least waiting for some time will be okay than thinking that they have taken all your money.
Well yes, that is very easy to say, but it is another thing to be inside with the problem, if OP needs to get the money quickly, he needs his case to be Attended to as Urgently as possible, otherwise something has to be done Urgent to be able to attend to you, I have been in those situations and the worst thing they can tell you is to wait and be patient, that kind of makes the person get Annoyed and get angry at the casino, and sometimes the Support agents are the ones who They are to blame for that,that's why the support in a casino the more humans than AI there are to serve, the better.I prefer to avoid new and small casinos because I know it's not a safe place to gamble unless it's just for fun, so don't go near the slow response from their service support because the potential for fraud can be seen in the way they serve customers.
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
If the bonus was cancelled then he shouldn't have seen it when he registered on the casino sites. Many casinos are very dishonest. I think the casino is a scam if all this things happened on the same casinos. These are all signs that the casino isn't not genuine.
What does he want before believe it's a scam casino he wants to wait for the casino to close or is he waiting until they refuse to let him have access to his money on the casino before he can confirm the casino to be a scam. We have many casino, try another one
Casinos requesting for KYC isn't a symptoms of scam casino but those cancelling a promotion they use to get customers, in the middle of the campaign is very dishonest and they can just closed without warning their customers.
Like I said in my previous comment on this topic, it could be that the bonus had a special link which any user wanting to claim the bonus must use that link to register..
This has happened to me before , where I saw a casino advertise a sign up bonus on this forum, then I visited their Twitter to verify their legitimacy, after that, I decide to just use the home page link on their Twitter bio to sign up, behold, I did not get the sign up bonus, when I contact their admin on this forum about it, it was discovered the sign up bonus had a special link for it, I had to sign up again with the bonus link to get the bonus.
Dishonest casinos are really that considered to be scam ones, unless if there would be some acceptance of errors or something that correlates on this then it would really be still that reconsidered
but of course once doubts and trust issues would be raised up then you cant blame out people around on not to have those second thoughts on the time that they would be hearing
out your site or companies name.
That’s why its very important to know about the casino before investing any money into it but if it’s actually a well reputed casino and they have declined your kyc verification I highly doubt it’s a scam considering the amount was 8000$. I say this keeping in mind that crypto currencies make insane amounts of money and they wouldn’t ruin their reputation over a small amount as 8000$.
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Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
If the bonus was cancelled then he shouldn't have seen it when he registered on the casino sites. Many casinos are very dishonest. I think the casino is a scam if all this things happened on the same casinos. These are all signs that the casino isn't not genuine.
What does he want before believe it's a scam casino he wants to wait for the casino to close or is he waiting until they refuse to let him have access to his money on the casino before he can confirm the casino to be a scam. We have many casino, try another one
Casinos requesting for KYC isn't a symptoms of scam casino but those cancelling a promotion they use to get customers, in the middle of the campaign is very dishonest and they can just closed without warning their customers.
Like I said in my previous comment on this topic, it could be that the bonus had a special link which any user wanting to claim the bonus must use that link to register..
This has happened to me before , where I saw a casino advertise a sign up bonus on this forum, then I visited their Twitter to verify their legitimacy, after that, I decide to just use the home page link on their Twitter bio to sign up, behold, I did not get the sign up bonus, when I contact their admin on this forum about it, it was discovered the sign up bonus had a special link for it, I had to sign up again with the bonus link to get the bonus.
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
If the bonus was cancelled then he shouldn't have seen it when he registered on the casino sites. Many casinos are very dishonest. I think the casino is a scam if all this things happened on the same casinos. These are all signs that the casino isn't not genuine.
What does he want before believe it's a scam casino he wants to wait for the casino to close or is he waiting until they refuse to let him have access to his money on the casino before he can confirm the casino to be a scam. We have many casino, try another one
Casinos requesting for KYC isn't a symptoms of scam casino but those cancelling a promotion they use to get customers, in the middle of the campaign is very dishonest and they can just closed without warning their customers.
In my opinion, there are many reasons why a real person who submits perfectly accurate documents for KYC verification will be denied the successful completion of this identity verification. These may be fuzzy or blurry photos submitted as part of this process. You can also refuse on the basis of the lack of registration at the place of residence, even if everything is in order with this. But the migration services allegedly did not enter the necessary data into the relevant population databases. And so on. Of course, all this is done only when you want to receive the money won at the casino into your account.
I once in my life could not pass KYC at all for this reason - I was simply informed with enviable constancy that they could not reliably confirm my identity without explanation at all. And the support generally stopped responding to my requests, and then to my indignation. True, it was a long time ago.
But I think the practice of not accepting KYC continues.
After all, this is the preservation of money on the casino accounts due to the actual "freezing" of the accounts of individual customers. A small, but still savings for the pool of casino funds.
So if you are going to withdraw money from a deposit to your account, you must always be potentially ready for trouble.
I've worked in customer support and I can say that one of the main reasons why people get denial for their KYC verification is because they either don't write the correct personal information that matches with the document or their documents are not clear or the pictures aren't taken well which makes them almost unreadable or verifiable.I once in my life could not pass KYC at all for this reason - I was simply informed with enviable constancy that they could not reliably confirm my identity without explanation at all. And the support generally stopped responding to my requests, and then to my indignation. True, it was a long time ago.
But I think the practice of not accepting KYC continues.
After all, this is the preservation of money on the casino accounts due to the actual "freezing" of the accounts of individual customers. A small, but still savings for the pool of casino funds.
So if you are going to withdraw money from a deposit to your account, you must always be potentially ready for trouble.
And when told, they wouldn't believe or listen to it but they start calling the project or a the platform a scam as soon as they get a rejection simply because they might have invested some money in it that they don't want to lose.
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
I will conside this acts as scam if the casino fails to give me a respond to why all or any of this things were done because I believe that there might be errors at some points and a simple chat with the customer care might get to resolve this.
That is true. You should try to contact Support first of all and tell them what happened in details. I was helped by Support many times on different sites when my situation, if I were to describe it without contacting anyone, looked like the site was scamming me. Sometimes it's not even an error on their side, but just a delay. And they speed the thing up for you if you contact them.
If that would be the case, I think a reappeal is necessary. KYC is so important nowadays that it's just a big blunder to not include it if you are a hopeful casino owner or a bookie. I would consider it a scam however if the KYC is:
If the casino you are playing in falls into these categories, you might as well take your business somewhere else. Those are textbook signs of a scam site and sometimes, cutting losses is better than fighting a losing battle against a Casino indignant with screwing you up.
- Convoluting and is designed to confuse users
- Consistently declining my appeals for review of my personal details despite providing them with different identifiables
- Lack of communication from the Casino's part that doesn't include the occasional robo-emails
- Is not allowing you to withdraw even if you have successfully processed your KYC
If the casino you are playing in falls into these categories, you might as well take your business somewhere else. Those are textbook signs of a scam site and sometimes, cutting losses is better than fighting a losing battle against a Casino indignant with screwing you up.
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I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
I will conside this acts as scam if the casino fails to give me a respond to why all or any of this things were done because I believe that there might be errors at some points and a simple chat with the customer care might get to resolve this.
Yes, some casinos do prepare special links for some bonuses which any user who want to get that bonus must sign up on the casino using that particular link, this is something I've experienced myself before, where I signed up on a casino that promised 150% bonus on first deposit, after depositing, I didn't get the bonus, I then contacted customer care, and I was told that I didn't sign up through the bonus link.
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
I will conside this acts as scam if the casino fails to give me a respond to why all or any of this things were done because I believe that there might be errors at some points and a simple chat with the customer care might get to resolve this.
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