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legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
April 29, 2023, 06:43:19 PM
Well yes, that is very easy to say, but it is another thing to be inside with the problem, if OP needs to get the money quickly, he needs his case to be Attended to as Urgently as possible, otherwise something has to be done Urgent to be able to attend to you, I have been in those situations and the worst thing they can tell you is to wait and be patient, that kind of makes the person get Annoyed and get angry at the casino, and sometimes the Support agents are the ones who They are to blame for that,that's why the support in a casino the more humans than AI there are to serve, the better.
The KYC verification process usually doesn't take a long time and on average it only takes 24 hours to 48 hours so more than that time we will have a question mark so that the thought that the casino is a scam will appear by itself.
Waiting and being patient is boring, so it's normal for every gambler to feel annoyed when they have to wait for confirmation for several days.
I myself have never had a problem with any casino regarding KYC because a good casino with a good reputation and qualified service will immediately solve any problems that occur quickly.
Most services that I've seen mostly have automated verification processes where if you meet the requirements set by default, your verification will be done pretty quickly, right after the application is processed, but if there are mistakes or problems like no clear documents or mismatching information, then the case is handled manually which takes more time.

When a case is handled manually, it depends on how many existing requests a platform has and your case will be handled according to that, most of the time it's on a first come first served basis so you will have to wait until the previous applications are cleared.

it may be the same as with kyc in crypto-exchanges as well. as you said, most of them are automated now. it will only take few minutes to submit your docs, and if all is clear, you won't be having any problem. so make sure you are submitting your docs clear and of course, not fake. so you won't be having problem later on.
now, if you feel you did your part and still the casino is not approving it. then doubt their motive. make sure you keep up with them and ask for help if they are not responding to you for long time. better cross it in your list.
legendary
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April 29, 2023, 06:16:10 PM
Well yes, that is very easy to say, but it is another thing to be inside with the problem, if OP needs to get the money quickly, he needs his case to be Attended to as Urgently as possible, otherwise something has to be done Urgent to be able to attend to you, I have been in those situations and the worst thing they can tell you is to wait and be patient, that kind of makes the person get Annoyed and get angry at the casino, and sometimes the Support agents are the ones who They are to blame for that,that's why the support in a casino the more humans than AI there are to serve, the better.
The KYC verification process usually doesn't take a long time and on average it only takes 24 hours to 48 hours so more than that time we will have a question mark so that the thought that the casino is a scam will appear by itself.
Waiting and being patient is boring, so it's normal for every gambler to feel annoyed when they have to wait for confirmation for several days.
I myself have never had a problem with any casino regarding KYC because a good casino with a good reputation and qualified service will immediately solve any problems that occur quickly.
Most services that I've seen mostly have automated verification processes where if you meet the requirements set by default, your verification will be done pretty quickly, right after the application is processed, but if there are mistakes or problems like no clear documents or mismatching information, then the case is handled manually which takes more time.

When a case is handled manually, it depends on how many existing requests a platform has and your case will be handled according to that, most of the time it's on a first come first served basis so you will have to wait until the previous applications are cleared.
legendary
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Bitcoin Trader
April 29, 2023, 01:26:34 PM
Maybe that will be considered a scam casino as we are all known that we can say that thing or site is a scam once we are providing a legit documents and still can not able to  pass the KYC verification and their customer service wont message us so without a doubt we think that casino is a scam. And also there's a thing if we deposit then there'd no problem but in the end of the day and we are trying to withdraw our earnings then they will not want a message but lock our accounts.
Cases like this almost happen a lot because usually when we make a deposit it ends up being too much drama just to process complex withdrawals and suddenly the account is frozen including the winnings, usually this happens because there are two things happening because we are cheating or the casino is trying do not want us to withdraw a lot of money from their site . but most of what happens is cases of casino fraud which makes it difficult when we provide documents and KYC.

Obviously if a casino takes more than a week to process and troubleshoot your issue then they are a fraudulent casino, so it's best to create a thread on the scam boards on this forum to flag the casino and be sure to provide screenshots to substantiate your allegation.
sr. member
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April 29, 2023, 11:49:39 AM
Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

Maybe that will be considered a scam casino as we are all known that we can say that thing or site is a scam once we are providing a legit documents and still can not able to  pass the KYC verification and their customer service wont message us so without a doubt we think that casino is a scam. And also there's a thing if we deposit then there'd no problem but in the end of the day and we are trying to withdraw our earnings then they will not want a message but lock our accounts.
legendary
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April 29, 2023, 08:45:11 AM
some personal platforms does not have the players for good motive some of them m of establishment is 2 scam people and go away so that is why he any casino that we want gamble with, we need to be careful  and research for the gambling before betting,  because so many of them doesn't have license
*Huge facepalm.

Man, you're just like talking the casino you currently promoted in your signature. A platform which created only to scam people and doesn't have any license, although the casino  I'm promoted doesn't have any license, but there's no active accusation where they're scamming.

we tend to immediately trust casinos that are already popular, especially if there are lots of positive reviews from several players, that gives better confidence.
If the positive reviews and popular factors are come from this forum, I don't think it's a mistake for you to just immediately trust the casino because you're already minimize of get scammed. I don't think there's a good forum or reviews to trust about online casino except this forum.
hero member
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April 29, 2023, 07:31:31 AM
That sounds like a frustrating situation. It's understandable to feel concerned if a casino asks for Know Your Customer (KYC) verification after winning an amount above the usual threshold.
It's not far from the truth that such things happen. So, before you enter a casino, check to see whether there are any negative reviews about that site. If you've ever made an account, make sure that if you withdraw, there's nothing wrong with your account so that the transaction goes smoothly. Aside from that, there are people who are just suspecting you, that's why you have to supply the documents for them to validate, just provide what they ask and don't protest if you see them trying to swindle you so that your situation will be resolved as soon as possible.

It because we don't conduct a thorough research before joining a casino makes it some how difficult for us to find a means to trust them when we pass through little challenges with them and most of which are kyc related issues, this could have been well dealt with if we had done the appropriate thing from the beginning, then should in case you're such in this category then make sure that you supply them with every demanding kyc verification requirements as needed.
we tend to immediately trust casinos that are already popular, especially if there are lots of positive reviews from several players, that gives better confidence.
suspicion of our casino account, it is actually based on our account activity as well. if the compliance party from the casino sees something suspicious from our account, they have the right to ask for KYC or other conditions to make it easier for us to access withdrawals in the future. we all know that there are pros with this method and there are also cons with all of this. but whatever policy is made, as players we must obey it.
hero member
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April 29, 2023, 06:48:44 AM
That sounds like a frustrating situation. It's understandable to feel concerned if a casino asks for Know Your Customer (KYC) verification after winning an amount above the usual threshold.
It's not far from the truth that such things happen. So, before you enter a casino, check to see whether there are any negative reviews about that site. If you've ever made an account, make sure that if you withdraw, there's nothing wrong with your account so that the transaction goes smoothly. Aside from that, there are people who are just suspecting you, that's why you have to supply the documents for them to validate, just provide what they ask and don't protest if you see them trying to swindle you so that your situation will be resolved as soon as possible.

It because we don't conduct a thorough research before joining a casino makes it some how difficult for us to find a means to trust them when we pass through little challenges with them and most of which are kyc related issues, this could have been well dealt with if we had done the appropriate thing from the beginning, then should in case you're such in this category then make sure that you supply them with every demanding kyc verification requirements as needed.
hero member
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April 29, 2023, 04:45:16 AM
As op had stated submitted his KYC document and still the casino had not confirm it. He will need to wait for for more time for it to be confirmed than thinking that the casino is a scam. That is it the we can tell whether a casino is a scam or not. At least waiting for some time will be okay than thinking that they have taken all your money.
Well yes, that is very easy to say, but it is another thing to be inside with the problem, if OP needs to get the money quickly, he needs his case to be Attended to as Urgently as possible, otherwise something has to be done Urgent to be able to attend to you, I have been in those situations and the worst thing they can tell you is to wait and be patient, that kind of makes the person get Annoyed and get angry at the casino, and sometimes the Support agents are the ones who They are to blame for that,that's why the support in a casino the more humans than AI there are to serve, the better.

The KYC verification process usually doesn't take a long time and on average it only takes 24 hours to 48 hours so more than that time we will have a question mark so that the thought that the casino is a scam will appear by itself.
Waiting and being patient is boring, so it's normal for every gambler to feel annoyed when they have to wait for confirmation for several days.
I myself have never had a problem with any casino regarding KYC because a good casino with a good reputation and qualified service will immediately solve any problems that occur quickly.
hero member
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April 28, 2023, 04:51:22 PM
I don’t think any registered casino platform would hide their policies from users, however, if they should ask for KYC Which was not originally part of their policies, then I think you should just go ahead to provide them with the details they’re requesting for.
There are things to take into account before we confirm a casino to be a scam and one of such things is demanding for KYC when it is not properly included in their T&C that it will become a requirement, and also if the user already passed the KYC verification process but still denied access to their withdrawals, this and many more are the most reason why some players accuse casinos of being a scam and aside from that, any other restriction may be because of the player's inability to properly read the rule and conditions of the casino.
Because a reputable casino will give you a certain bonus and includes their terms and conditions, particularly for that specific bonus, so we need to read a lot about casinos' various conditions at whatever point in time.
Anything which isnt stated on their Terms and conditions and then suddenly they've been asking out later on on the time that you do make out some huge win then you would really be able to tell that the site you

are dealing or playing with is really having that shady behavior which it might really be ending up on being a proven scam or some sort which it is really that sad but eventually you could really be able to avoid up these things if you do really just know on how to make up some research and making use of your own common sense. Why we cant just stick out into those casinos or platforms which are really that popular and reputable? We wont really be experiencing up these things if you do have these kind of considerations.

It is really just too suck to mind that whenever you do able to win big amounts and then suddenly they would really be making out some reasoning just for them to confiscate or cancel out your winnings
which do really sucks. This is why its better to be mindful on making up some research so that you would be able to avoid such conditions or situations where wasting up some win if ever you
are really that lucky.
hero member
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April 28, 2023, 04:46:04 PM
I don’t think any registered casino platform would hide their policies from users, however, if they should ask for KYC Which was not originally part of their policies, then I think you should just go ahead to provide them with the details they’re requesting for.
There are things to take into account before we confirm a casino to be a scam and one of such things is demanding for KYC when it is not properly included in their T&C that it will become a requirement, and also if the user already passed the KYC verification process but still denied access to their withdrawals, this and many more are the most reason why some players accuse casinos of being a scam and aside from that, any other restriction may be because of the player's inability to properly read the rule and conditions of the casino.
Because a reputable casino will give you a certain bonus and includes their terms and conditions, particularly for that specific bonus, so we need to read a lot about casinos' various conditions at whatever point in time.
legendary
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April 28, 2023, 04:34:26 PM
the KYC process shouldn't take long unless the casino is big and there are lots of user requests completing KYC, but it would be a question if a small casino processing KYC takes up to weeks it's confirmed it's fraud because small casinos don't have many active gamblers so there aren't many KYC requests, so obviously it's very weird if they process it slow better leave it or raise the case on this forum if they are active on forums have ANN threads.

In theory, the size of the casino shouldn't have much effect on the KYC processing time. Small ones have fewer customers, but the big one can afford more staff. So what we're really looking at is not the size, but the number of active players per one customer support worker ratio.
But I'd be guessing that nowadays almost all sites that genuinely require KYC (and not just use it as an excuse to not process withdrawals) are using 3rd party verification services rather than handling the process themselves. It's simply cheaper and faster that way and they don't have to deal with all the data protection/storage requirements.
legendary
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Bitcoin Trader
April 28, 2023, 10:42:01 AM
As op had stated submitted his KYC document and still the casino had not confirm it. He will need to wait for for more time for it to be confirmed than thinking that the casino is a scam. That is it the we can tell whether a casino is a scam or not. At least waiting for some time will be okay than thinking that they have taken all your money.
Well yes, that is very easy to say, but it is another thing to be inside with the problem, if OP needs to get the money quickly, he needs his case to be Attended to as Urgently as possible, otherwise something has to be done Urgent to be able to attend to you, I have been in those situations and the worst thing they can tell you is to wait and be patient, that kind of makes the person get Annoyed and get angry at the casino, and sometimes the Support agents are the ones who They are to blame for that,that's why the support in a casino the more humans than AI there are to serve, the better.

the KYC process shouldn't take long unless the casino is big and there are lots of user requests completing KYC, but it would be a question if a small casino processing KYC takes up to weeks it's confirmed it's fraud because small casinos don't have many active gamblers so there aren't many KYC requests, so obviously it's very weird if they process it slow better leave it or raise the case on this forum if they are active on forums have ANN threads.

I prefer to avoid new and small casinos because I know it's not a safe place to gamble unless it's just for fun, so don't go near the slow response from their service support because the potential for fraud can be seen in the way they serve customers.
legendary
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Do not die for Putin
April 28, 2023, 10:12:54 AM
As op had stated submitted his KYC document and still the casino had not confirm it. He will need to wait for for more time for it to be confirmed than thinking that the casino is a scam. That is it the we can tell whether a casino is a scam or not. At least waiting for some time will be okay than thinking that they have taken all your money.
Well yes, that is very easy to say, but it is another thing to be inside with the problem, if OP needs to get the money quickly, he needs his case to be Attended to as Urgently as possible, otherwise something has to be done Urgent to be able to attend to you, I have been in those situations and the worst thing they can tell you is to wait and be patient, that kind of makes the person get Annoyed and get angry at the casino, and sometimes the Support agents are the ones who They are to blame for that,that's why the support in a casino the more humans than AI there are to serve, the better.


There has to be a reasonable response and reasonable conditions. It is difficult to tell precisely what is reasonable and what is not in the context of producing services, but there is a point in which you can clearly see that things are "unreasonable". A wait of 2 or 3 weeks in a KYC validation is not usually acceptable as a week to answer a query is not reasonable.
legendary
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April 28, 2023, 09:52:38 AM
As op had stated submitted his KYC document and still the casino had not confirm it. He will need to wait for for more time for it to be confirmed than thinking that the casino is a scam. That is it the we can tell whether a casino is a scam or not. At least waiting for some time will be okay than thinking that they have taken all your money.
Well yes, that is very easy to say, but it is another thing to be inside with the problem, if OP needs to get the money quickly, he needs his case to be Attended to as Urgently as possible, otherwise something has to be done Urgent to be able to attend to you, I have been in those situations and the worst thing they can tell you is to wait and be patient, that kind of makes the person get Annoyed and get angry at the casino, and sometimes the Support agents are the ones who They are to blame for that,that's why the support in a casino the more humans than AI there are to serve, the better.
legendary
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April 24, 2023, 06:18:40 PM
Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

What people often willingly and conveniently overlook is that these very same casinos state these - usually quite near the top - of their terms of service. At this point I'd be more suspicious about a casino that does not require KYC, as most jurisdictions, even the notorious ones where you can buy a license, are now starting to require this setup. It also helps the casino/sportbook from being defrauded, because most of the biggest ones offer pretty large promotions and the only way they can do that is if they know each customer is genuine, if the same customer tries to get around the protections (trivially easy to do unless a verified identity is involved) then they stand to lose a lot of money.
And this is not new in the industry anymore ever since people saw the hole about multi-accounting. Without KYC, they could just literally abuse the freebies given by gambling sites and keep on doing it over and over again without being traced. I think that is also the reason why the massive e-mail account buying and hacking are not stopping, they are using it for this purpose for easy money.
This is the reason why I am not against the KYC requirements of gambling sites especially if they are reputable ones and we have many sites here in the forum that can prove they are trustworthy.

OP, regarding the bonuses, you might want to take a look at the terms and conditions first. There's a possibility that you didn't qualify for it. Also, check the date and time of the bonus, there are instances where it was shared in some articles/blogs without knowing it was an expired event/bonus.
If you qualified for any of it and still didn't receive it, contact their support first before making any assumptions. If they won't answer in like 3-5 days then that's when you suspect them of being a scam gambling site.
member
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April 24, 2023, 05:44:59 PM
I don’t think any registered casino platform would hide their policies from users, however, if they should ask for KYC Which was not originally part of their policies, then I think you should just go ahead to provide them with the details they’re requesting for.
sometimes they can twick the terms and conditions so that we may not have full understanding about what it entails. We just need to be more careful about casinos like that if we find something fishy that looks like we might not seems to understand the when details of what we have read. It is good to do our own diligence for a better choice.

or better yet, if you are confused with their statements under their terms, why not contact their technical support and clarify about your doubts? because if there's a complaint on the casino, they will surely refer to their published terms and conditions. because if it is not found on their terms, you can very well protest your case. they don't have anything against you because where will they get the valid reason why they won't be resolving your case?
We casinos would idea the vital information in there terms in a way that we might not understand and at the end that will use it to fight us so we can quickly blackout. There are many ways casinos can win us in this kind of game especially if there intention is to take away our money illegally.
some personal platforms does not have the players for good motive some of them m of establishment is 2 scam people and go away so that is why he any casino that we want gamble with, we need to be careful  and research for the gambling before betting,  because so many of them doesn't have license
member
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Crypto bookmaker and casino
April 24, 2023, 05:35:21 PM
I don’t think any registered casino platform would hide their policies from users, however, if they should ask for KYC Which was not originally part of their policies, then I think you should just go ahead to provide them with the details they’re requesting for.
sometimes they can twick the terms and conditions so that we may not have full understanding about what it entails. We just need to be more careful about casinos like that if we find something fishy that looks like we might not seems to understand the when details of what we have read. It is good to do our own diligence for a better choice.

or better yet, if you are confused with their statements under their terms, why not contact their technical support and clarify about your doubts? because if there's a complaint on the casino, they will surely refer to their published terms and conditions. because if it is not found on their terms, you can very well protest your case. they don't have anything against you because where will they get the valid reason why they won't be resolving your case?
We casinos would idea the vital information in there terms in a way that we might not understand and at the end that will use it to fight us so we can quickly blackout. There are many ways casinos can win us in this kind of game especially if there intention is to take away our money illegally.
member
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April 24, 2023, 05:34:36 PM
Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?
I don’t think any registered casino platform would hide their policies from users, however, if they should ask for KYC Which was not originally part of their policies, then I think you should just go ahead to provide them with the details they’re requesting for.
sometimes they can twick the terms and conditions so that we may not have full understanding about what it entails. We just need to be more careful about casinos like that if we find something fishy that looks like we might not seems to understand the when details of what we have read. It is good to do our own diligence for a better choice.
sometimes I will say that we are the cause of the problem because some casino platforms always give instructions to their player and we that is the player, does not stand with the instruction given by the casino platform during registration so we cannot blame some of the platform it is way that cause our problem during our registration without reading the instruction and the follow the instruction of Casino platform
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
April 24, 2023, 05:02:58 PM
I don’t think any registered casino platform would hide their policies from users, however, if they should ask for KYC Which was not originally part of their policies, then I think you should just go ahead to provide them with the details they’re requesting for.
sometimes they can twick the terms and conditions so that we may not have full understanding about what it entails. We just need to be more careful about casinos like that if we find something fishy that looks like we might not seems to understand the when details of what we have read. It is good to do our own diligence for a better choice.

or better yet, if you are confused with their statements under their terms, why not contact their technical support and clarify about your doubts? because if there's a complaint on the casino, they will surely refer to their published terms and conditions. because if it is not found on their terms, you can very well protest your case. they don't have anything against you because where will they get the valid reason why they won't be resolving your case?
member
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Crypto bookmaker and casino
April 24, 2023, 05:01:01 PM
Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?
I don’t think any registered casino platform would hide their policies from users, however, if they should ask for KYC Which was not originally part of their policies, then I think you should just go ahead to provide them with the details they’re requesting for.
sometimes they can twick the terms and conditions so that we may not have full understanding about what it entails. We just need to be more careful about casinos like that if we find something fishy that looks like we might not seems to understand the when details of what we have read. It is good to do our own diligence for a better choice.
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