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February 11, 2024, 12:20:25 PM
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heerenveen - Ajax[/color]

This is a very important game for Ajax in the sense that a victory would make Ajax occupy position 4, but it will not be an easy game, this is because Heerenveen is a team that in the last 5 games has not managed to have at least 1 victory but they managed to have 3 draws and 2 defeats and playing against teams that come from many draws is always very complicated, but I believe that Ajax will win this game and will occupy position 4
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it is very close to ajax being in position 4  Grin

Due to Ajax's defeat today, third place is no longer possible for me, third place is now very far away. The battle between Feyenoord and Twente for second place will be more interesting.
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February 11, 2024, 11:21:15 AM
 Ajax have not been at their best performances but they've definitely been winning games and have been consistent to it. Definitely a coach has his own impact in a team, once the head is faulty, there'll always be loopholes. It means a lot for a team to get victorious consecutively in a row and for Ajax, that's caused a gradual improvement regardless not doubting that they still have to put in more work.
I've grown to know Ajax to be top team in Eredivisie but always failed in the eyes of supporters in elite competition, time for Ajax to stop selling key players to elite teams outside their league, because it's really affecting them in matches, they couldn't even accumulate three points without fighting really hard to achieve. Ajax made a big mistakes in the early starts of the new season. Selling their key players to generate monetary values for the club, which is quite understandable but failing to re-ensure they make backup signings for these key players.
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February 11, 2024, 10:36:28 AM


And the results were truly beyond my expectations. Ajax is in good form and they should be able to win this match. They lost 2-3 to Heerenveen. Even though Ajax really controlled the match. They have a 66% ball possession rate. They also had 6 shots on target. More from Heerenveen. It seemed like it was Ajax's unlucky day because they could have won the match if we looked at the game statistics. This defeat means they are still in fifth place and still unable to shift AZ Alkmaar for now.
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February 10, 2024, 06:10:10 PM
 Ajax have not been at their best performances but they've definitely been winning games and have been consistent to it. Definitely a coach has his own impact in a team, once the head is faulty, there'll always be loopholes. It means a lot for a team to get victorious consecutively in a row and for Ajax, that's caused a gradual improvement regardless not doubting that they still have to put in more work.
I'd winning their games still doesn't look like been at the best of their performance don't know the kind of performance you hope to see from ajax because they are so far have been doing their best and the results nis what matters and they have been producing these desired results so it could be seen that they are making progress.

What will have to be in doubts now with ajax will have to be them winning the trophy at the end if the season because they ha e been given a whole lot of distance by the team at the top which happens to be PSV, the coach of Ajax is really doing a great job that I will personally commend so far because Ajax earlier were much more worse but then now the difference is clear as he has been able to gradually build them and put them at a place where they are now hopefully to finish well by the end of the season, too four now appears very possible.
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February 10, 2024, 05:44:06 PM
Almere 0 - 0 AZ

things really aren't going well for AZ in the last 6 games they haven't managed to win in any game, although they have managed to get some draws, this is still a loss of points considering that there are other teams that are getting very close to AZ in the table. Something funny is that in December last year AZ played against Almere and won the game against Almere, and it wasn't just a simple victory, it was a game in which AZ managed to score 4 goals. almere improved while AZ declined and in yesterday's game almere showed that they improved compared to the last game against AZ. although Almere were unable to win the game, a draw in that game was already a good result for Almere. With this draw, AZ remains in position 4, while Almere remains in position 11

Excelsior 0 - 3 Twente

well, this was an easy game for twente, that's because Excelsior in the last few games has been a very inconsistent team, they had mixed results, for example in the last 4 games they had 2 defeats, 1 draw and only one victory and they are fighting to distance themselves from the teams that are in the relegation zone, while Twente, which was also coming from mixed results, had managed to go 2 consecutive games without losing, which is why they were favorites in that game, with this victory, Twente remained in third place, doing with make it difficult for ajax to overcome them



heerenveen - Ajax

This is a very important game for Ajax in the sense that a victory would make Ajax occupy position 4, but it will not be an easy game, this is because Heerenveen is a team that in the last 5 games has not managed to have at least 1 victory but they managed to have 3 draws and 2 defeats and playing against teams that come from many draws is always very complicated, but I believe that Ajax will win this game and will occupy position 4



it is very close to ajax being in position 4  Grin
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February 10, 2024, 04:17:25 PM

Mistakes made and corrected, Ajax falls on the winning side of the league. Ajax will finish in the top four this season. The losses and wins are recorded on the Ajax side; there was a point when I felt Ajax would be demoted since their performance was impoverished giving viewers worries about their ability to compete. I grant gratitude to Ajax for their incredible hope of returning to winning matches despite beginning on the wrong foot. It took a long time for them to recognize their weaknesses and correct their mistakes, but they are gradually recovering.

 Ajax have not been at their best performances but they've definitely been winning games and have been consistent to it. Definitely a coach has his own impact in a team, once the head is faulty, there'll always be loopholes. It means a lot for a team to get victorious consecutively in a row and for Ajax, that's caused a gradual improvement regardless not doubting that they still have to put in more work.

 They've got players no doubt but the squad needs to be better, Ajax is a team better than a narrow win, at the moment though, finding the right player who's top and ready in all areas to give that competitive capacity in both the domestic league and the European leagues will be hard. Their inconsistency is unhealthy and they just have to find a way to stop the losses from occuring through a narrow means. There's still a bit of time for their errors to be reshaped and corrected too.

Since Alkmaar now dropped points, I think this is a great opportunity for Ajax Amsterdam to further close the gap and preserve the chance to at least qualify for the Europa League. I am sure that Ajax Amsterdam still has the dream to qualify for the Champions League, but realistically speaking it is not in their own hands anymore and they depend on Twente getting some bad results. I doubt that Ajax could still catch up with Feyenoord, but Twente could still be possible for them, but they need a winning streak again.

For Ajax it would be a horror if they don't play internationally next season. In two weeks they are playing against Alkmaar which would allow them to extend their lead if they now win the next game. The top four is the minimum goal.
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February 10, 2024, 02:50:16 PM

Mistakes made and corrected, Ajax falls on the winning side of the league. Ajax will finish in the top four this season. The losses and wins are recorded on the Ajax side; there was a point when I felt Ajax would be demoted since their performance was impoverished giving viewers worries about their ability to compete. I grant gratitude to Ajax for their incredible hope of returning to winning matches despite beginning on the wrong foot. It took a long time for them to recognize their weaknesses and correct their mistakes, but they are gradually recovering.

 Ajax have not been at their best performances but they've definitely been winning games and have been consistent to it. Definitely a coach has his own impact in a team, once the head is faulty, there'll always be loopholes. It means a lot for a team to get victorious consecutively in a row and for Ajax, that's caused a gradual improvement regardless not doubting that they still have to put in more work.

 They've got players no doubt but the squad needs to be better, Ajax is a team better than a narrow win, at the moment though, finding the right player who's top and ready in all areas to give that competitive capacity in both the domestic league and the European leagues will be hard. Their inconsistency is unhealthy and they just have to find a way to stop the losses from occuring through a narrow means. There's still a bit of time for their errors to be reshaped and corrected too.
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February 10, 2024, 02:42:04 PM
Yes i agree fourth position is cooked for Ajax is easy to reach right now for them, but the main problem is gonna be catch the third one, if Twente dont drop his level they are gonna be out of that position, the diference is not small,Twente building a 6-9 points gap right now.

Twente are making good progress and now it will be difficult for Ajax to reach third place...

But there are still a few rounds to play, fourth place possible but third difficult.
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February 10, 2024, 01:32:06 PM
Yes i agree fourth position is cooked for Ajax is easy to reach right now for them, but the main problem is gonna be catch the third one, if Twente dont drop his level they are gonna be out of that position, the diference is not small,Twente building a 6-9 points gap right now.
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February 10, 2024, 03:22:21 AM

one of strangest and less interesting seasons in Netherlands, PSV secured title in mid-season, Feyenoord is second and Ajax is climbing from relegation zone, to probably finish 3rd in the end
hard to expect something different from that

I agree with you. PSV, Ajax and Feyenoord have gone 1-3 in the previous two seasons and if they get it back this season, I think it will be uninteresting and boring. But however, we know that currently other teams cannot appear consistent. AZ and Twente were very good at the start of the season but now we see them struggling and we think Ajax will overtake Twente in the standings. I hope at least Twente is in third place. Because currently Twente is still 6 points ahead of Ajax.
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February 09, 2024, 04:46:03 PM
Ajax have not been at their best performances but they've definitely been winning games and have been consistent to it. Definitely a coach has his own impact in a team, once the head is faulty, there'll always be loopholes. It means a lot for a team to get victorious consecutively in a row and for Ajax, that's caused a gradual improvement regardless not doubting that they still have to put in more work. They've got players no doubt but the squad needs to be better.
 
 Ajax is a team better than a narrow win, at the moment though, finding the right player who's top and ready in all areas to give that competitive capacity in both the domestic league and the European leagues will be hard. Their inconsistency is unhealthy and they just have to find a way to stop the losses from occuring through a narrow means. There's still a bit of time for their errors to be reshaped and corrected too.
Mistakes made and corrected, Ajax falls on the winning side of the league. Ajax will finish in the top four this season. The losses and wins are recorded on the Ajax side; there was a point when I felt Ajax would be demoted since their performance was impoverished giving viewers worries about their ability to compete. I grant gratitude to Ajax for their incredible hope of returning to winning matches despite beginning on the wrong foot. It took a long time for them to recognize their weaknesses and correct their mistakes, but they are gradually recovering.
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February 09, 2024, 04:05:52 PM
Ajax is currently on position 5th, and has a good chance to win away match against Heerenveen and reach position 4th, since AZ is completely out of form at the moment
and just a two months before, that looked really impossible

one of strangest and less interesting seasons in Netherlands, PSV secured title in mid-season, Feyenoord is second and Ajax is climbing from relegation zone, to probably finish 3rd in the end
hard to expect something different from that

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February 09, 2024, 02:45:42 PM
It's still very possible Ajax secure a spot for their selves at the champions league by next season, that's absolutely in no doubt especially if they can make it to be in the third or fourth position on the table which is a very possible thing for them, it's clear that PSV is beyond reach at the top of the table already but same does not apply to the third and fourth positions, they are still very much contestable, Ajax is just a few points away from the third position which if they could consistently win their games on a streak, they are definitely going to get there.
Are you saying that by getting third place in the standings, Ajax will play in the Champions League next season? From what I know, the Eredivise only gets 2 slots in the Champions League every season and those are first and second place. In fact, the previous season they only got 1 Champions League ticket and that was Feyenoord. You can see PSV, which was in second place last season, playing in the European league. So I agree with you that Ajax was able to get third place and that means Ajax will get a ticket to play in the European league, not the Champions League. Correct me if I'm wrong.
In 2024, we will have Champions League with new format just because of this Eredivisie spot is increased with third spotted needs to fight in qualification even I have feeling Eredivisie is now recently have better quality then French Ligue 1 but still they are having more spots for the Champions League, but this is also good and now most chances we will have fight for the third spot between Twente and Ajax because AZ Alkmaar is on decline, and they are losing too many points which are going to hurt them in future for the better spot with Ajax is also return at their best in last five game we have 9 more points for the Ajax then AZ Alkmaar which is not level on points with Ajax for the fourth spot.
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February 09, 2024, 01:44:11 PM

Are you saying that by getting third place in the standings, Ajax will play in the Champions League next season? From what I know, the Eredivise only gets 2 slots in the Champions League every season and those are first and second place. In fact, the previous season they only got 1 Champions League ticket and that was Feyenoord. You can see PSV, which was in second place last season, playing in the European league. So I agree with you that Ajax was able to get third place and that means Ajax will get a ticket to play in the European league, not the Champions League. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Ajax have not been at their best performances but they've definitely been winning games and have been consistent to it. Definitely a coach has his own impact in a team, once the head is faulty, there'll always be loopholes. It means a lot for a team to get victorious consecutively in a row and for Ajax, that's caused a gradual improvement regardless not doubting that they still have to put in more work. They've got players no doubt but the squad needs to be better.
 
 Ajax is a team better than a narrow win, at the moment though, finding the right player who's top and ready in all areas to give that competitive capacity in both the domestic league and the European leagues will be hard. Their inconsistency is unhealthy and they just have to find a way to stop the losses from occuring through a narrow means. There's still a bit of time for their errors to be reshaped and corrected too.
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February 09, 2024, 01:09:02 PM
First of all nice to reach the 100 pages on this thread this show something to s, like asides of being more little than the big fives leagues of europe, eredivisie remains as one of the more powerfull leagues and followed by many people as we can see in the number of post here.

About this round i dont see any important game.
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February 09, 2024, 03:06:59 AM
It's still very possible Ajax secure a spot for their selves at the champions league by next season, that's absolutely in no doubt especially if they can make it to be in the third or fourth position on the table which is a very possible thing for them, it's clear that PSV is beyond reach at the top of the table already but same does not apply to the third and fourth positions, they are still very much contestable, Ajax is just a few points away from the third position which if they could consistently win their games on a streak, they are definitely going to get there.

Are you saying that by getting third place in the standings, Ajax will play in the Champions League next season? From what I know, the Eredivise only gets 2 slots in the Champions League every season and those are first and second place. In fact, the previous season they only got 1 Champions League ticket and that was Feyenoord. You can see PSV, which was in second place last season, playing in the European league. So I agree with you that Ajax was able to get third place and that means Ajax will get a ticket to play in the European league, not the Champions League. Correct me if I'm wrong.

This season or at this time the Dutch league can ration 3 slots that appear in the champions league the same as France. 2 qualify directly 1 more through qualification.
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February 09, 2024, 12:03:24 AM
It's still very possible Ajax secure a spot for their selves at the champions league by next season, that's absolutely in no doubt especially if they can make it to be in the third or fourth position on the table which is a very possible thing for them, it's clear that PSV is beyond reach at the top of the table already but same does not apply to the third and fourth positions, they are still very much contestable, Ajax is just a few points away from the third position which if they could consistently win their games on a streak, they are definitely going to get there.

Are you saying that by getting third place in the standings, Ajax will play in the Champions League next season? From what I know, the Eredivise only gets 2 slots in the Champions League every season and those are first and second place. In fact, the previous season they only got 1 Champions League ticket and that was Feyenoord. You can see PSV, which was in second place last season, playing in the European league. So I agree with you that Ajax was able to get third place and that means Ajax will get a ticket to play in the European league, not the Champions League. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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February 08, 2024, 10:05:46 AM
Well resilience.... i know that concept fits in this case, but i also thin Ajax has so much more level than the other teams so i dont know if i can call that resilience, only a wake up.

The game against PSV can help them to start to build from there as a solid base.
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February 08, 2024, 09:51:02 AM
I agree with you. Ajax is different from Lyon because Ajax was able to rise from adversity and is now competing to get a ticket to the European league next season. I'm not saying the Champions League for Ajax because first and second place almost certainly belong to PSV and Feyenoord. But I believe they have returned to a positive trend now. They managed to win 3 matches and got 2 draws in the last five matches. It was a very good result after a very bad start to the season.
Ajax has got resilience on a different level because they were really poor in their performance earlier such that we almost taught they may not make it to top five this season as they had several losses in a roll, which was really impressive surprising and at same time amazing, I still believe they have gat much more they can do.

It's still very possible Ajax secure a spot for their selves at the champions league by next season, that's absolutely in no doubt especially if they can make it to be in the third or fourth position on the table which is a very possible thing for them, it's clear that PSV is beyond reach at the top of the table already but same does not apply to the third and fourth positions, they are still very much contestable, Ajax is just a few points away from the third position which if they could consistently win their games on a streak, they are definitely going to get there.
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February 08, 2024, 07:11:08 AM

I am hopeful for the Ajax to have third spot into league table until end of this season because now every week they are improving their performance and their results are also allowing them to have better chance for this with in last five matches AZ Alkmaar having 3 points and Ajax 11 which cut the deficit and now both are on level Twente having 6 points difference which is surely interesting but if Ajax are able to give their 100% then surely things could be favourable for them, and they will be achieved but how Twente will perform this is also important.

Ajax vs PSV were interesting and both give their best but in second half I believe Ajax were better even they fail to take any advantage, but things are going good for them and their future until end because they are not back in business.
Ajax have not been at their best performances but they've definitely been winning games and have been consistent to it. Definitely a coach has his own impact in a team, once the head is faulty, there'll always be loopholes. It means a lot for a team to get victorious consecutively in a row and for Ajax, that's caused a gradual improvement regardless not doubting that they still have to put in more work.

 They've got players no doubt but the squad needs to be better, Ajax is a team better than a narrow win, at the moment though, finding the right player who's top and ready in all areas to give that competitive capacity in both the domestic league and the European leagues will be hard. Their inconsistency is unhealthy and they just have to find a way to stop the losses from occuring through a narrow means. There's still a bit of time for their errors to be reshaped and corrected too.
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