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Quote from: Slow death on August 06, 2024, 09:03:33 AM

Since Erik ten Hag left Ajax, he caused Ajax to decline a lot and opened space for Feyenoord to start having real chances of winning the title, even in the case of PSV, they started to be a team that fights for the title after Erik ten Hag left Ajax, before Erik ten Hag became Ajax coach, Feyenoord had won the title when the coach was Giovanni van Bronckhorst. It's funny that PSV and Feyenoord in the last 8 years even when they change coaches, they continue to play well, while in the case of Ajax when coach Frank de Boer left the team fell for years, then Erik ten Hag came and recovered the team, but he left and the team declined a lot. The first rounds will determine whether Ajax has improved and whether PSV or Feyenoord will be title contenders again. The big 3 teams will have easier games in the first round. But in my opinion, if Feyenoord can play well throughout the next season like they did in this game against PSV, then they could be champions.

Change of coaches are normal thing for the clubs, but we need to check few things about Ajax as Erik ten Hag leave club we have few big players also follow him this was the turning point for club and Ajax suffer badly even they were into relegation zone for sometime as well, but now things are coming back to normal we are having good improvement into their performance so they are fighting hard for having spot into UEFA Europa Cup.

In last 14 years, we are having no winner other than Ajax 7 times PSV 4 times and Feyenoord 2 times, so Eredivisie is dominant by these clubs in near future I am having no changes because we are having no strength in any other club to challenge them for the title race just because of these things have never been entertaining here in this league.

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Quote from: W Jr. on August 05, 2024, 03:29:35 PM

Quote from: LTU_btc on August 04, 2024, 03:37:39 PM

Super Cup final was such great season opener. I think that many expected that it will be high scoring game, but damn, 4:4, who saw it coming. It was such roller coaster and game winner wasn't decided after 90 minutes. We had penalty shootout where underdogs Feyenoord were more confident and didn't missed anything.
New Eredivisie season begins next week already.

They played a great match with PSV. It seemed to me that Feyenoord was playing better throughout the match. I don't think anyone expected the 4-4 score. It was a great match for the Super Cup. I congratulate Feyenoord for winning the championship on penalties. They are the biggest candidate for the Dutch league championship this year.

Since Erik ten Hag left Ajax, he caused Ajax to decline a lot and opened space for Feyenoord to start having real chances of winning the title, even in the case of PSV, they started to be a team that fights for the title after Erik ten Hag left Ajax, before Erik ten Hag became Ajax coach, Feyenoord had won the title when the coach was Giovanni van Bronckhorst. It's funny that PSV and Feyenoord in the last 8 years even when they change coaches, they continue to play well, while in the case of Ajax when coach Frank de Boer left the team fell for years, then Erik ten Hag came and recovered the team, but he left and the team declined a lot. The first rounds will determine whether Ajax has improved and whether PSV or Feyenoord will be title contenders again. The big 3 teams will have easier games in the first round. But in my opinion, if Feyenoord can play well throughout the next season like they did in this game against PSV, then they could be champions.

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Quote from: W Jr. on August 05, 2024, 03:29:35 PM

Quote from: LTU_btc on August 04, 2024, 03:37:39 PM

Super Cup final was such great season opener. I think that many expected that it will be high scoring game, but damn, 4:4, who saw it coming. It was such roller coaster and game winner wasn't decided after 90 minutes. We had penalty shootout where underdogs Feyenoord were more confident and didn't missed anything.
New Eredivisie season begins next week already.

They played a great match with PSV. It seemed to me that Feyenoord was playing better throughout the match. I don't think anyone expected the 4-4 score. It was a great match for the Super Cup. I congratulate Feyenoord for winning the championship on penalties. They are the biggest candidate for the Dutch league championship this year.

Feyenoord were in aggressive mindset from the start of the game just because of this we have lead for them at the end of first half but in second half we have good counter-attack from the PSV just because of their change strategy and having better aggressive approach PSV were in good control and score three goals.

As we have start of the season for both sides look like we are going to have another cracking season between these two teams because both are having same approach and their attack is also effective just because of this we are having the good number of goals in this opener of the new season.

Ajax need some more time for having back into title hunt because they are having no enough quality for competition we need more time with better quality in this season.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on June 06, 2024, 11:25:19 AM

Quote from: wiss19 on June 06, 2024, 09:44:32 AM

Without any doubt PSV done impressive work but now can they keep things at this level, or we are having some problems which is surely going to be another advantage for the Ajax but still things could be exciting in this next season, and we will have all matches full of entertainment and things could tough for the top five teams to keep themselves at their spots.

If you look at previous history, over the last 3 seasons the top five positions in the Eredivise have always been filled by Ajax, PSV, AZ Alkmaar, Twente and Feyenoord. This shows their consistency and an increasingly competitive league. I remember that the EPL used to have big four which referred to the top 4 clubs which always belonged to City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United and Tottenham. Maybe we can call this the big five in the Eredivise. Next season Ajax has the motivation to win the league championship. Az Alkmaar and Twente must be able to maintain the consistency of their game because they have slumped in the last few matches.

By the looks of this new Ajax team , I'm afraid they won't even catch top 3 in Eredivisa 2025 season and I'm afraid Ajax won't even catch a deep run in International trophies because they barely qualified against Vojvodita in Europa League and next game will be against Panathinaikos and I think Ajax will end up in Conference League because I cannot see them winning this series.

I personally think that PSV will go back 2 back win and get another trophy but I could see Feyernoord as runners up followed by Alkmaar and then Twente or Ajax. Grin

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Quote from: LTU_btc on August 04, 2024, 03:37:39 PM

Super Cup final was such great season opener. I think that many expected that it will be high scoring game, but damn, 4:4, who saw it coming. It was such roller coaster and game winner wasn't decided after 90 minutes. We had penalty shootout where underdogs Feyenoord were more confident and didn't missed anything.
New Eredivisie season begins next week already.

They played a great match with PSV. It seemed to me that Feyenoord was playing better throughout the match. I don't think anyone expected the 4-4 score. It was a great match for the Super Cup. I congratulate Feyenoord for winning the championship on penalties. They are the biggest candidate for the Dutch league championship this year.

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PSV 4 - 4 Feyenoord

This was a very intense game, there were 8 goals in total and there were 3 penalties. PSV was the first team to score a goal, they scored in the 8th minute, but in the 29th minute the PSV defender made a serious mistake by bringing down the Feyenoord player and so the referee awarded a penalty and Feyenoord scored an equalizer. I thought the foul that the PSV player committed was very unnecessary. After the penalty, Feyenoord scored the 2nd goal again and Feyenoord could have scored the 3rd goal in the 1st half, but they wasted a great opportunity and unfortunately for Feyenoord, PSV then scored an equalizer.

In the 2nd half the PSV goalkeeper made a mistake by bringing down the Feyenoord player and the referee awarded a penalty which resulted in Feyenoord's 3rd goal. In my opinion this was a game in which PSV made some serious mistakes which is why they lost the game. But I also congratulate Feyenoord for playing very well.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on August 04, 2024, 03:37:39 PM

Super Cup final was such great season opener. I think that many expected that it will be high scoring game, but damn, 4:4, who saw it coming. It was such roller coaster and game winner wasn't decided after 90 minutes. We had penalty shootout where underdogs Feyenoord were more confident and didn't missed anything.
New Eredivisie season begins next week already.

I am super excited after watching start of new season here at the Eredivisie because having 8 goals in game is really entertaining while I was not expecting Feyenoord are going to have performance like this few time I have feeling they are going to win this game in regular time but de Jong denied them through 81st minute penalty.

While watching game having goals from both teams is always amazing we have two quality teams and both give their best for win and having good booster for the next season Ajax is also doing good, so things could be interested in this season for all these top teams to compete for title.

Now we have just few days left in start of new season all top teams are going to have easy home games for their start look like we are going to watch rain of goals on first day of new season.

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Yes what a game to see, i cant see anything because i was in a travel, but what a bless to everyone who can see a 4-4 game for a title in a final.

Its gonna be a super push for the Feyenoord team start with this win.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on June 18, 2024, 11:30:52 AM

If Ajax keep firing their managers then I think the future for Ajax will be quite bad. They are through to the European Cup qualifiers next season but it looks like they won't be able to go any further. I think they should be able to follow the example of other teams like City or Liverpool who give coaches the opportunity to build their squad. There are many examples of other clubs but sorry I don't think I can give an example from the Eredivise. But at least Ajax should start to stop firing coaches without letting them coach a season or two and monitoring the team's development.

Nothing beats building a squad, when a team gets to build their squad well enough, you see that they later have a very firm and strong team that will be able to get them to winning trophies and getting the team to glory ways just as they should be. Ajax last season started off terribly tho they later tried getting better but it was later already and one factor that led to them suffering all of that was in this firing of their coach and now they got one who helped them anticipate a good form and improvement, if they continue in that spirit just like you mentioned it's going to be a really long season for them till they attain some kind of stability.

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Super Cup final was such great season opener. I think that many expected that it will be high scoring game, but damn, 4:4, who saw it coming. It was such roller coaster and game winner wasn't decided after 90 minutes. We had penalty shootout where underdogs Feyenoord were more confident and didn't missed anything.
New Eredivisie season begins next week already.

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Ajax have opened the new season before PSV and Feyenoord with Europa League qualification matches.

They looked good in friendly matches first and they didn't have big issues with eliminating Vojvodina also. But until seeing them defeating tougher opponents I don't want to be confident of them. At least for now, it looks like they are well-prepared.

On the other hand in the Johan Cruyff Shield match, I see Feyenoord look readier than PSV. Cool

They got 2-1 ahead with a comeback and the match is really entertaining. PSV have a 3-title streak in this tournament so do you think it will be broken by Feyenoord today?

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Time to bump this topic - club football is returning back to action and on Sunday we have Dutch season opener - Johan Cruyff Shield or in other words Super Cup between PSV and Feyenoord. We don't really know what to expect from teams as we only can judge from friendly games, what isn't good indicator. I'm probably going to put money on BTTS and over 2.5 goals if wodds won't be too low.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on June 06, 2024, 03:52:30 PM

The whole Barcelona tiki-taka was invented at Ajax by Cryuff and yet they are not playing with any system these days, because they keep firing managers before they build a system. I think if they really wanted to, they could have hired someone better, they just do not look at manager position as a vital part and just want to get young players they can sell for more later on.

If Ajax keep firing their managers then I think the future for Ajax will be quite bad. They are through to the European Cup qualifiers next season but it looks like they won't be able to go any further. I think they should be able to follow the example of other teams like City or Liverpool who give coaches the opportunity to build their squad. There are many examples of other clubs but sorry I don't think I can give an example from the Eredivise. But at least Ajax should start to stop firing coaches without letting them coach a season or two and monitoring the team's development.

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Farioli isn't that great of a manager if you ask me, and considering Ajax has been firing managers quite frequently, I think it's quite clear that they have no idea what they are doing at all. We should consider how they could do better in the end, and we should consider how they could have a manager that would be a "system guy", which would mean that they would play better.

The whole Barcelona tiki-taka was invented at Ajax by Cryuff and yet they are not playing with any system these days, because they keep firing managers before they build a system. I think if they really wanted to, they could have hired someone better, they just do not look at manager position as a vital part and just want to get young players they can sell for more later on.

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Quote from: wiss19 on June 06, 2024, 09:44:32 AM

Without any doubt PSV done impressive work but now can they keep things at this level, or we are having some problems which is surely going to be another advantage for the Ajax but still things could be exciting in this next season, and we will have all matches full of entertainment and things could tough for the top five teams to keep themselves at their spots.

If you look at previous history, over the last 3 seasons the top five positions in the Eredivise have always been filled by Ajax, PSV, AZ Alkmaar, Twente and Feyenoord. This shows their consistency and an increasingly competitive league. I remember that the EPL used to have big four which referred to the top 4 clubs which always belonged to City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United and Tottenham. Maybe we can call this the big five in the Eredivise. Next season Ajax has the motivation to win the league championship. Az Alkmaar and Twente must be able to maintain the consistency of their game because they have slumped in the last few matches.

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Quote from: Awak Bambi on June 06, 2024, 02:04:29 AM

Quote from: Volgastallion on June 05, 2024, 01:15:48 PM

It can be fun to guess the next season which teams are gonna be in the top.

Do you think we are gonna see a super Ajax comeback? I think maybe, they cant have two abd seasons in a row and also they surely wants to wip out this bad image of them.

Can PSV make another super season like this one? I doubt about that.

Ajax achieved extraordinary progress, at the start of the season they were very difficult due to the absence of several very important players for Ajax and also the coach, but they managed to get back out of their bad zone and managed to finish in 3rd place, with this proving that Ajax will be ready to start next season even better to give the best to its supporters I think Ajax will be successful next season.

PSV has been extraordinary this season, but for next season I doubt they will keep the trophy, because this season many PSV players will be looked at by other European clubs, if they leave then PSV will lose its momentum like now.

In last six years, we are having three titles for the Ajax with as we have exit of Ten Hag things are looking not positive but in last two seasons they are trying to achieve their best and as they have fight back in this season from relegation zone to fifth spot we can expect better results because now Feyenoord is also having change of coach which is going to have some impact on their performance even PSV is looking at better, but things could be challenging for them as Ajax wants place in top spots and this could be created fierce competition at the top.

Without any doubt PSV done impressive work but now can they keep things at this level, or we are having some problems which is surely going to be another advantage for the Ajax but still things could be exciting in this next season, and we will have all matches full of entertainment and things could tough for the top five teams to keep themselves at their spots.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on June 05, 2024, 01:15:48 PM

It can be fun to guess the next season which teams are gonna be in the top.

Do you think we are gonna see a super Ajax comeback? I think maybe, they cant have two abd seasons in a row and also they surely wants to wip out this bad image of them.

Can PSV make another super season like this one? I doubt about that.

Ajax achieved extraordinary progress, at the start of the season they were very difficult due to the absence of several very important players for Ajax and also the coach, but they managed to get back out of their bad zone and managed to finish in 3rd place, with this proving that Ajax will be ready to start next season even better to give the best to its supporters I think Ajax will be successful next season.

PSV has been extraordinary this season, but for next season I doubt they will keep the trophy, because this season many PSV players will be looked at by other European clubs, if they leave then PSV will lose its momentum like now.

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It can be fun to guess the next season which teams are gonna be in the top.

Do you think we are gonna see a super Ajax comeback? I think maybe, they cant have two abd seasons in a row and also they surely wants to wip out this bad image of them.

Can PSV make another super season like this one? I doubt about that.

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Quote from: Jossque on June 03, 2024, 01:29:10 PM

NAC Breda saw the importance of winning 6-2 at home.Excelsior failed to stay in the league despite beating their opponents 4-1 at home.When we look at the history of the matches between these 2 teams, we see that NAC breda has the advantage.Excelsior could have stayed in the league if they had not been reduced to 9 men in the first meeting, but they paid a heavy price for that. It's a sad result for Excelsior who couldn't stay in the league despite defeating their opponent 4-1.They didn't even give their opponent many scoring opportunities and despite that they couldn't score enough goals.Troy Parrot scored 3 goals in the match and it was difficult for them to score 1-2 more goals against their opponent.

Getting such defeat in the second leg by a team in the relegation zone is going to be a nice start of the next season for NAC Breda. No need to mention that they end in the 8th place in their league..
They need to sign some players to consolidate their squad and the defence line to start with, otherwise they are going to return from where they came very fast.

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NAC Breda saw the importance of winning 6-2 at home.Excelsior failed to stay in the league despite beating their opponents 4-1 at home.When we look at the history of the matches between these 2 teams, we see that NAC breda has the advantage.Excelsior could have stayed in the league if they had not been reduced to 9 men in the first meeting, but they paid a heavy price for that. It's a sad result for Excelsior who couldn't stay in the league despite defeating their opponent 4-1.They didn't even give their opponent many scoring opportunities and despite that they couldn't score enough goals.Troy Parrot scored 3 goals in the match and it was difficult for them to score 1-2 more goals against their opponent.

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