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April 09, 2023, 03:49:20 AM
PSV has submitted yesterday and overtaken Ajax, Feyenoord can make today an important step towards the title, Ajax must win today not to lose the closure to PSV, it is at second place for the Champions League place, which is very important, not only sporting but also financially.
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April 08, 2023, 11:38:54 PM
It's crazy how quickly an almost guaranteed plot in a league like the Eredivsie can change. Everyone expected Ajax Amsterdam to take the lead and keep it until the very end of the season, but then it only needs a few weeks of weakness and one team to exploit it and this is the case this time with Feyenoord Rotterdam. They are in an amazing position now. No more duels with PSV or Ajax or AZ, 8 points ahead which allows them 2 losses save, probably even three losses as the other teams won't win every single game most likely. So they can lose 3 out of 7 and they are not up against the top teams anymore. I am quite certain that this season is over Wink The last time they have been the champion was in 16/17.

Additionally, they are playing a great Europa League season and that would be the icing on the cake. We'll see how far they can make it.

For PSV and Ajax the KNVB final is still left to be played for. That is a bit of a relief for the team who wins it, and the loser of that final had a pretty bad season.
One thing is sure now no one can stop changes which are happening around soccer world and many clubs where were having mostly spots in middle or lower ranks having good changes due to their performance and consistency same happening here in Dutch League, and we have Feyenoord as the new winner after six years with Ajax and PSV are paying for selling their top players to big clubs without having suitable replacements hopefully now they will learn their lessons and try to bring improved players which will be able to give them better results in next season but in current season things are completely change and Feyenoord are having strong case for the double because domestic league pressure is released with this now they can give all intention to Europa Cup where now they are going to face AS Roma which beats them in last season in Conference League Cup now it's good time for having revenge and better results which will allow them to have spot into last four teams.

Yes that is true but you can't blame PSV or Ajax for letting those players go. As soon as the big clubs are waving with money there isn't much you can do when you are not among European's elite clubs financially. There are a couple of leagues and also especially some clubs that have been suffering from that for years if not even decades. They develop a supertalent into a star and of course want to keep the player, but game over as soon as your player is performing too well. The thing is that even the age is decreasing further and further and they don't even stay with those clubs until they are 23 or 24. They usually leave when they are 20 or even younger. That makes it hard for Ajax and similar clubs to build a team they can look forward with into the future.
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April 08, 2023, 07:19:51 PM
Az alkmaar lost the match despite being good at home. the home team could not find a goal even though they had more chances and played more possession, unfortunately they had to lose. With this win Rotterdam reduced the gap with Alkmaar to 5 points. Alkmaar may slowly start to fall out of the championship race with this defeat.
PSV, on the other hand, beat their opponent 4-0 with a good game at home, reducing the point difference with Feyenoord to 5 for now and waiting for their opponent to lose points.
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April 08, 2023, 02:10:52 PM
Regardless of all peripheral matters that play out, PSV and Ajax are very disappointing. Feyenoord is more than rightly at the top. And if you look at the Feyenoord team, it is very clever in several respects. Almost the entire selection left last season because they managed to force good transfers through the very good game. Feyenoord's progress is unprecedented. Still, I think we have to give the tainer, Arne Slot, a lot of credit. No other coach in this league could have done that. And Feyenoord is also very fit physically. They managed to get a lot of points with that by the end of the game
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April 08, 2023, 12:44:42 PM
It's crazy how quickly an almost guaranteed plot in a league like the Eredivsie can change. Everyone expected Ajax Amsterdam to take the lead and keep it until the very end of the season, but then it only needs a few weeks of weakness and one team to exploit it and this is the case this time with Feyenoord Rotterdam. They are in an amazing position now. No more duels with PSV or Ajax or AZ, 8 points ahead which allows them 2 losses save, probably even three losses as the other teams won't win every single game most likely. So they can lose 3 out of 7 and they are not up against the top teams anymore. I am quite certain that this season is over Wink The last time they have been the champion was in 16/17.

Additionally, they are playing a great Europa League season and that would be the icing on the cake. We'll see how far they can make it.

For PSV and Ajax the KNVB final is still left to be played for. That is a bit of a relief for the team who wins it, and the loser of that final had a pretty bad season.
One thing is sure now no one can stop changes which are happening around soccer world and many clubs where were having mostly spots in middle or lower ranks having good changes due to their performance and consistency same happening here in Dutch League, and we have Feyenoord as the new winner after six years with Ajax and PSV are paying for selling their top players to big clubs without having suitable replacements hopefully now they will learn their lessons and try to bring improved players which will be able to give them better results in next season but in current season things are completely change and Feyenoord are having strong case for the double because domestic league pressure is released with this now they can give all intention to Europa Cup where now they are going to face AS Roma which beats them in last season in Conference League Cup now it's good time for having revenge and better results which will allow them to have spot into last four teams.
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April 07, 2023, 11:23:47 PM
It's crazy how quickly an almost guaranteed plot in a league like the Eredivsie can change. Everyone expected Ajax Amsterdam to take the lead and keep it until the very end of the season, but then it only needs a few weeks of weakness and one team to exploit it and this is the case this time with Feyenoord Rotterdam. They are in an amazing position now. No more duels with PSV or Ajax or AZ, 8 points ahead which allows them 2 losses save, probably even three losses as the other teams won't win every single game most likely. So they can lose 3 out of 7 and they are not up against the top teams anymore. I am quite certain that this season is over Wink The last time they have been the champion was in 16/17.

Additionally, they are playing a great Europa League season and that would be the icing on the cake. We'll see how far they can make it.

For PSV and Ajax the KNVB final is still left to be played for. That is a bit of a relief for the team who wins it, and the loser of that final had a pretty bad season.
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April 07, 2023, 05:36:08 PM
Today there was a match between Groningen and Utrecht. Groningen is in the relegation zone and I can say that relegation is a certainty. Utrecht, on the other hand, needs to be in the top 7 to qualify for Europe next year. We can say that the first half of the match was balanced. In the second half the away team increased the pressure and scored with plenty of chances and won the match.
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April 07, 2023, 02:49:08 PM
Next game that Feyenoord will play at home, the box where the incident took place will most likely remain empty. Then you get a kind of social control in the future. Hanging nets doesn't seem nice to me as a football fan. But of course you have to do something. Groningen is currently lagging behind again and relegation seems to be getting closer for Groningen. It's been a long time since this team played in the 2nd division. Battle for the championship was already decided, but the battle for 2nd place is in full swing. Ajax can also become 4th. They might consider bringing back Marc Overmars, but would you do something like that as a club? The way things are going now has huge consequences for the club and capital self-destruction seems closer than most people realize.
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April 07, 2023, 08:27:17 AM
After 63 minutes game stopped due to spectators riots, game was well-balanced with any team can win from here.
One of Feyenoord fans throw something from stands and it hit Davy Klaassen's head. What a shame:
https://twitter.com/DutchLeagues/status/1643698460405686285
https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1643697914294722572
https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1643704347841245195
Seems that someone is going to get lifetime ban to visit stadiums and Feyenoord probably will have to play some upcoming games in empty stadium and pay big fine. Game was resumed after some time, Klaassen returned to pitch, but soon was replaced.
Ajax won the game which was well-balanced as you said and they go to the final where they will face PSV.
Lol, though very devastating but so funny. Fans are sometimes very unjust, I wonder what he may have done to warrant such. I'm still meditating on how the perpetrator of this act is going to be fetched out. Seeing that fans are so coordinated and cooperative, will it be easy to fetch this person and give him the necessary penalty for this act just like you said? I quest the punishment is going to be served directly to all the Fans and this will be so detrimental to the club. You know what it means to Play a match without fans.
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April 07, 2023, 07:22:32 AM
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Ajax won the game which was well-balanced as you said and they go to the final where they will face PSV.

it was a shame what happened, not sure that it influenced final score
Ajax is in the final, playing with PSV, last year final replay

PSV won last year, we will see what will happen this year

will be interesting to see what will happen to Feyenoord and their fan after this incident, looking to find some clue in the news, but still nothing on possible penalty for them (is point deduction possible in this case?)
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April 06, 2023, 03:58:10 PM
It is of course scandalous what happened yesterday during the match between Feyenoord and Ajax. Yet the nature of the cause seems worse than it actually is. The photos look serious, but it's just a lighter thrown by the public. I think that this kind of thing has often been thrown in other countries, but that a player is not hit on the back of the head. In terms of content, it wasn't the best match, by the way. Too bad for Feyenoord, who can no longer win the cup. Maybe a small positive point for Ajax if they could still win the cup. But still a disaster year all in all for Ajax.
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April 06, 2023, 10:03:44 AM
One of Feyenoord fans throw something from stands and it hit Davy Klaassen's head. What a shame:
https://twitter.com/DutchLeagues/status/1643698460405686285
https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1643697914294722572
https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1643704347841245195
Seems that someone is going to get lifetime ban to visit stadiums and Feyenoord probably will have to play some upcoming games in empty stadium and pay big fine. Game was resumed after some time, Klaassen returned to pitch, but soon was replaced.
Ajax won the game which was well-balanced as you said and they go to the final where they will face PSV.

It's always very sad to see something like that, like in England, where they almost didn't manage to lock out the hooligans until they cracked down and used video evidence (it must be certain that it was that person) to ban the fan from the stadium for life. Should happen to the Feyenoord fan as well, in my opinion.

About the game, thanks for the report that the game was also not only balanced in theory, but also in reality. So Ajax still has a chance to win a title this year, in the league I don't think it's possible anymore.
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April 05, 2023, 04:55:55 PM
After 63 minutes game stopped due to spectators riots, game was well-balanced with any team can win from here.
One of Feyenoord fans throw something from stands and it hit Davy Klaassen's head. What a shame:
https://twitter.com/DutchLeagues/status/1643698460405686285
https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1643697914294722572
https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1643704347841245195
Seems that someone is going to get lifetime ban to visit stadiums and Feyenoord probably will have to play some upcoming games in empty stadium and pay big fine. Game was resumed after some time, Klaassen returned to pitch, but soon was replaced.
Ajax won the game which was well-balanced as you said and they go to the final where they will face PSV.

Feyenord fan threw a lighter and hit Klassen in the head and he got hurt badly it was all blood on his head and the game was interrupted. I think they deserve a huge fine for this and an empty stadium for a long time. At such a huge level this shouldnt happen.
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April 05, 2023, 04:45:36 PM
After 63 minutes game stopped due to spectators riots, game was well-balanced with any team can win from here.
One of Feyenoord fans throw something from stands and it hit Davy Klaassen's head. What a shame:
https://twitter.com/DutchLeagues/status/1643698460405686285
https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1643697914294722572
https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1643704347841245195
Seems that someone is going to get lifetime ban to visit stadiums and Feyenoord probably will have to play some upcoming games in empty stadium and pay big fine. Game was resumed after some time, Klaassen returned to pitch, but soon was replaced.
Ajax won the game which was well-balanced as you said and they go to the final where they will face PSV.
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April 05, 2023, 02:54:10 PM
KNVB-Pokal semi-final, currently

Feyenoord 1:2 Ajax

At the moment the game is pretty even, at least from a theoretical point of view, possession, shots, passes, etc.

Unfortunately I can't see the game, is it the same as the theoretical data or does one team have the advantage?

Of course Ajax has the advantage by one goal more, but is it also like that in the game?
After 63 minutes game stopped due to spectators riots, game was well-balanced with any team can win from here.
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April 05, 2023, 02:48:36 PM
KNVB-Pokal semi-final, currently

Feyenoord 1:2 Ajax

At the moment the game is pretty even, at least from a theoretical point of view, possession, shots, passes, etc.

Unfortunately I can't see the game, is it the same as the theoretical data or does one team have the advantage?

Of course Ajax has the advantage by one goal more, but is it also like that in the game?
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April 05, 2023, 09:56:15 AM
Mmmmm yes you have plenty of reason but its easy from away to talk.

But also Feyenoord know his chances to win the UEL are really low against the big teams we have this year, Man UTD ,  Barcelona, Juventus, Sevilla,Roma, etc, they are really strong, so i think they know his capabilities and limitations.

You're right, this year the Europa League is filled with very big names and it will be very difficult, even next week against Roma. I'm looking forward to the game today, but I assume that both teams will give everything, for Ajax it's the last chance for a title this season. Feyenoord also has home advantage tonight, so it will be even more difficult for Ajax.

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More easy, you know "its better a bird in hand than a million flying".

And one thing i dont know, for most of the fans maybe its more important the derby against Ajax than any other thing, but this only can be confirmed by someone from  netherland.

It's always difficult to say, that's only know Feyenoord fans whether they the prefer to win in the Europa League or the National Cup. For me, the Championship Title would be better than both titles, but Feyenoord are well on their way.
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April 04, 2023, 08:32:49 PM
Tomorrow is the Cup semi-final match between Feyenoord and Ajax, for Ajax it will probably be the last chance to win a title this season. Feyenoord, unlike Ajax, have a tough game against Roma next week, the tougher programme there in any case, whether Feyenoord will put so much focus on the game tomorrow?

Isn't the championship title and the Europa League quarter-finals more important?

Mmmmm yes you have plenty of reason but its easy from away to talk.

But also Feyenoord know his chances to win the UEL are really low against the big teams we have this year, Man UTD ,  Barcelona, Juventus, Sevilla,Roma, etc, they are really strong, so i think they know his capabilities and limitations.

More easy, you know "its better a bird in hand than a million flying".

And one thing i dont know, for most of the fans maybe its more important the derby against Ajax than any other thing, but this only can be confirmed by someone from  netherland.
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April 04, 2023, 03:34:49 AM
Tomorrow is the Cup semi-final match between Feyenoord and Ajax, for Ajax it will probably be the last chance to win a title this season. Feyenoord, unlike Ajax, have a tough game against Roma next week, the tougher programme there in any case, whether Feyenoord will put so much focus on the game tomorrow?

Isn't the championship title and the Europa League quarter-finals more important?
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April 03, 2023, 08:19:15 AM
Ajax lost 2 more points this week with a draw away to Go Ahead Eagles and with Feyenoord's win the points difference between them is now 8. Of course Ajax was the better team in the match but they didn't make the most of their chances.
Feyenoord, on the other hand, are slowly marching towards the championship.I must say that they had a very comfortable win against Sparta rotterdam.Although the opponent was not an easy opponent, the fact that they had so many shots and positions on the road shows this.
Seems that G. A. Eagles is very difficult opponent for Ajax - it's already 4th game in a row ehen they failed to win against them. And now when they let Feyenoord 8 points away, their situation looks very complicated now.
Feyenoord won Rotterdam derby against Sparta 3:1 and it's one of key games in last phase of season - derby is never easy to win. And when you look at remaining Feyenoord matches - it's difficult to imagine them wasting 8 points lead.
Now Ajax have only chance remaining to win something this season - they have Cup semifinal against Ajax on Wednesday.
Yes, when we look at it, we see that Go ahead eagles is a team that is against the ajax team.In the last 3 matches between them, ajax did not have a win.This has increased to 4 matches with this match.With this draw, the league championship is now difficult for Ajax.I see it difficult for them to be champions after this. 2 days later they will play a cup semi-final match with feyenoord.It seems that their only goal is left.I expect them to focus on this match.
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