Topic: Eredivisie 23/24 - discussion thread - page 44. (Read 15982 times)

The score line doesn't do justice to that match. Ajax didn't play badly, except for the fact that they were horrible in front of goal. They fumbled too many goal scoring opportunities in that match.
It was a very interesting match from start to finish. I expected Ajax to win but they couldn't even score a goal, but that is football,
PSV deserved the win. They played better. They were very direct and made use of their chances. Let me use this opportunity to praise Xavi Simon. He's such a sensation. He was a handful for Ajax, they couldn't cope with him. I can even say PSV would not have been able to win that match without him. 

I mean considering one is second and one is third, it's not really unusual, or not unexpected. Obviously it looks like we are going to see them not do as well as people expected them to do but it did happen and we are talking about a situation where it will help and benefit people if they think that one team is better when they are betting and Ajax has been historically the better team.

But that doesn't change the fact that we are talking about close enough teams that this could happen. Now that we have seen Ajax lose, I think it is easier to say that being third will be what they need to be happy about because getting to second would be hard, depends on if PSV loses some other game, but it's better to be third than fourth so Ajax should do better.

At this point, yeah, the cup won't save them from the ire of their fans. Losing it would probably just tip over into all out rebellion right now.

Everyone hates Ajax in NL I think, except, for some reason, the people I know in the big cities haha. But yes, no one needs fans who risk the club getting fined etc.

Hate to say it, but that club needed a deep reboot anyway.

I predicted an Ajax win before the match but PSV outclassed them showing more interest in playing UEFA Champions League football next season. Though PSV are 3 points better than Ajax and also stands a better chance of finishing the league in the second position, I think Ajax still has a good chance to fight for champions league football next season.
Feyenoord has been outstanding this season for the first time since 2017 they look set to become Dutch Champions once again

Ajax losing to PSV was really a tough one, that caused a lot of trouble for them. Being this close to AZ is not really that easy to handle for them. I hope that they would end up doing a lot better soon and get that lost points back and win more games. If they can win more games and play better, PSV will eventually lose points and they can get back to being second and finishing there would be better for them.

However, if they end up not finishing there then I think it would be a lot worse because they may end up losing games too and if they lose even just once whereas AZ wins, then that would mean not only they will not be second, but they will fail to be third as well. It Is really harder to recover from there so they need to do something.

The defeat and also in this amount is more than just surprising for me, also the chances for Ajax to become vice champion and to get into the important Champions League are vanishingly small. PSV will have to slip up in the last 3 rounds. As you say, Ajax could also lose 3rd place, next Saturday AZ and Ajax play each other directly. If you win the Cup in the Netherlands, do you get into the Europa League group stage, i think this is the last good chance for Ajax this season?

I think this is a situation that Ajax find themselves into right now that they actually didn't expect earlier this season. The first bummer is of course to lose the CL qualification rank, but now they don't even make it into the Europa League if they lose to AZ. It's tough if you get passed through from a Champions League participant to either nothing. Even the Conference League is a small consolation at best.

They have had trouble keeping their players even when they participated in the Champions League, but now when that is not the case anymore, the model that Ajax is all about is even at threat. Develop young players, keep them as long as possible and be successful with them and then sell them for a lot of money. That works well for as long as your young players also have the chance to show their talent on international stages. There is a lot at risk for them in the upcoming games.

PSV took out Ajax, pretty unexpected outcome, and they are now on road to secure Champions league next season
Ajax will have to fight for third spot, or they will join Conference league, if AZ overcome them on position 3

Feyenoord is in winning strike in Ere, no matter blow against Roma, they secured another win over Utrecht, and now need five points from next three matches to secure title

It was a really big hit to Ajax by PSV on this week. It is even doubtful whether Ajax can make it to the Champions League next season. Because PSV seem much better and stronger than Ajax right now.

It is difficult to understand how Ajax have got to this point. I know that some important players left the team but they were replaced with some other really good players as well. Ajax need to show their best performance in the remaining four weeks of the season. And Feyenoord are so close to declaring their league title on one hand. Winning two more games the most will be enough for them to making it official before the end of the season. Maybe they are out of the Europa League but they will win their domestic league title.

Didn't expected such result, but 3:0 reflects game quite well. And it summarize Ajax season pretty well. Awful performance in Champions and Europa league, they won't win Eredivisie and now likely will not qualify to Champions league next season. They still can win Cup, but obviously it wasn't main their goal of the season.
This game was interrupted for some time after PSV fans started throwing things like beer glasses at Ajax players. It's not first time when such things happened in Eredivisie this season and Ajax is again victim of such behaviour. I can't understand why fans are doing such things when their team leads 2:0...

Not completely right, 2nd place goes to Champions league qualification and 3rd to Europa league qualification. So, now Ajax is likely to stay without Champions league next season. But realistically, none of teams doesn't looks capable to achieve something significant in Champions league. Now they only can go far in Europa league.

It's surprising what's happening this season in the European leagues, ajax practically doesn't have many chances to reverse the current results and become champion, with the high risk of finishing in the 3rd position as I said in my last post in this thread, but looking for ajax I see that they will need to make big changes if they want to win the league next season and go back to being a team that constantly scored a lot of goals, I still don't know if they will keep this current coach or if they will change the coach and buy players. about Feyenoord they are practically champions, they just need confirmation, I very much doubt that there will be any change

but I don't see Feyenoord getting far in the european champions league, after the game against rome it became more evident, in the champions league they will face better teams than rome and they will lose, i think Feyenoord will be eliminated very early, but they are to be congratulated this season, they had a good campaign with 30 games and they had 22 wins, 7 losses and 1 draw. they scored 73 goals and only conceded 7 goals, but they don't have the best attack in the league, the best attack in the league will go to PSV, even if the goal difference currently between PSV and ajax is not big, I see PSV as the team with the best attack

In the most important match of the week, there were 3 goals in the PSV-Ajax match.PSV defeated its important rival by scoring 3 goals and moved into 2nd place.PSV, which closed the first half 1-0 ahead with the goal it found in the first half, was the team that scored 2 more goals in the second half and scored 3 points. The goal came from luuk de jong.Although Ajax was the side that dominated the ball more, they could not make good use of their goal positions.Although the race will be between PSV and Feyenoord after this hour, it is obvious that Feyenoord is the champion.Feyenoord, who defeated their strong rival utrecht 3-1 at home in the match played today, maintained the point difference between them and is going to the championship step by step.

AZ is only 2 points behind Ajax due to a virtual victory. Ajax has really lost a lot of points lately. Or would the competition have become stronger? In the case of Feyenoord I can say yes. But AZ is doing well in Europe, but it is unreal that Ajax might still be 4th in the competition? I can hardly imagine that would happen. Ajax's goal difference is still a lot better than AZ's, but that won't help you much if you miss a lot of points now. I also don't know the program of the teams that are still competing for the European tickets.

Ajax and PSV have many problems that they have to solve when you look at the selection. The problems at PSV seem to be manageable, but we should also not forget what Ajax's budget is compared to PSV. You can also judge a team based on a bank account, right? And in that respect, Ajax has had a really bad season. Feyenoord will play CL, which means that golden income can be generated again, which they need to strengthen the team. Ajax has missed the boat the last 2 seasons.

yes, that is indeed correct. But PSV and Ajax don't have much to look for in the CL at the moment. They would both fail. PSV has missed a ticket for a few years in a row. The last time Feyenoord was active in the CL, it seemed to be a hopeless campaign. But this selection of Feyenoord is also difficult to keep together, I think. In principle, Kogcu is unstoppable and Gimenez is also in the interest of various clubs. But a well-deserved title for Feyenoord this season in any case, it was of course a huge display of power this season.

From what I understand, the number 2 also has an extra ticket for the CL from next season. And the number 3 would then be allowed to play preliminary round. Ajax will have to make do with a placement for the EL, but I think that is also where Ajax belongs. Only Feyenoord has a team that can compete with strong teams in Europe, but if you play against teams like PSG and City I would like to see it in a full tub. Arne Slot is irreplaceable, as soon as he leaves it will collapse like a house of cards, just like it happened with Ajax when Ten hag left.

Feyenoord has a solid 1-0 lead against Utrecht, probably another easy win. While they basically no longer need the victories. But it is also nice from the other side to win the title with great force majeure. Suppose you become champion of the Netherlands and you have an 11-point lead over PSV. Surely that must feel like a great humiliation for PSV? And maybe let's not talk about Ajax because they have made a mess of it. I think we can also blame general manager Edwin van de Sar for the necessary things. He did not even invite Peter Bosz for an interview.

ya.ya.yo!

Wow. I know some of you said it wasn't a surprise but I have to admit I didn't see this coming. Ajax in third place and maybe, just maybe even forced to consider having to fight off in the playoff for a spot in Conference League!

Alkmaar continues to upstage my expectations, can they pip Ajax to a guaranteed spot next season (that's even if they don't buy their own ticket by winning Conference)?

That 3-0 today is not even a surprise anymore. PSV is also called an inexperienced coach in Van Nistelrooy, but is a few years older than Heitinga and still seems to make a more professional and mature impression than Heitinga. I think it would be good for both teams to appoint a different coach. We have seen in the competition at Feyenoord what impact the appointment of Arne Slot has had, who has taken Feyenoord to unprecedented heights with his vision and way of playing. Erik ten Hag was also a tyrant, but he really won't go back to Ajax, unless he has to be fired from United.

3-0 for PSV now. As an Ajax supporter, it must hurt your eyes to see your team lose so without a chance. From title candidate number 1 to laughing stock at the top. Maybe Ajax is not even at the top anymore at the moment. Becoming 3rd now seems to me to be the maximum achievable, but AZ is also very close and is in a slightly better flow. Ajax will have to appoint another trainer if they want to do things differently in the coming season. This is a lost season with perhaps only a cup as prize. in any case something, but they can do that again against PSV, by the way.