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Quote from: Koal-84 on April 20, 2023, 10:23:21 AM

Quote from: laurenB7742 on April 19, 2023, 04:30:42 AM

Feyenoord is going to win the title it is pretty sure. They are 8 points ahead of Ajax in second place. Ajax is now looking to secure second place in the points table. They are keen to qualify for the Champions League. But it won't be easy for them. PSV, who are third in the points table, are level on points with Ajax. And so if Ajax drops a point in any match they will lose second place in the table. The PSV team is pretty consistent right now. They will definitely try to qualify for the Champions League until the end of the season. And so it will not be easy for Ajax to occupy the second place in the table if their performances are not consistent.

I can't imagine that Feyenoord will give up the title. From the point of view of the Eredivisie, it would be very important for Ajax to finish second. Ajax is in twelfth place in the UEFA seeding list and therefore has a much better chance of not getting an opponent from the TOP 3 leagues in the non-Championship.

https://de.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/#/yr/2023

The 5-year ranking is very close this year and it would be important for Feyenoord to advance tonight, the gap to France is not very big but Portugal is also close behind the Netherlands.

One advantage is in any case, next year the Netherlands will have a worse year than France and Portugal out of the ranking.

This table is interesting and I have had a look at it a while ago and thought it is indeed close, but it is not as close as it looks. If the Netherlands want to overtake France a lot would have to happen. For as long as PSG plays a decent role in the Champions League next year and some of the other French teams play an average role, it is harder than it seems for the Netherlands to soon overtake them. France would have to completely fail for one year and the Netherlands need a team that survives the group stage in the Champions League and one that makes it far in the Europa League. That's not that likely, but of course still worth fighting for. Nice you shared the overview here again.

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Ohh men i dont know netherland was so close to France in the ranking.

Well now , after this lose, Feyenoord its only in Eredivisie, so full focus on this.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on April 19, 2023, 04:30:42 AM

Feyenoord is going to win the title it is pretty sure. They are 8 points ahead of Ajax in second place. Ajax is now looking to secure second place in the points table. They are keen to qualify for the Champions League. But it won't be easy for them. PSV, who are third in the points table, are level on points with Ajax. And so if Ajax drops a point in any match they will lose second place in the table. The PSV team is pretty consistent right now. They will definitely try to qualify for the Champions League until the end of the season. And so it will not be easy for Ajax to occupy the second place in the table if their performances are not consistent.

I can't imagine that Feyenoord will give up the title. From the point of view of the Eredivisie, it would be very important for Ajax to finish second. Ajax is in twelfth place in the UEFA seeding list and therefore has a much better chance of not getting an opponent from the TOP 3 leagues in the non-Championship.

https://de.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/#/yr/2023

The 5-year ranking is very close this year and it would be important for Feyenoord to advance tonight, the gap to France is not very big but Portugal is also close behind the Netherlands.

One advantage is in any case, next year the Netherlands will have a worse year than France and Portugal out of the ranking.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on April 19, 2023, 03:29:07 AM

Quote from: sana54210 on April 18, 2023, 09:59:10 AM

I personally hope that it is Ajax because they are a much bigger and better team and they just had a bad season when their team was basically dissected by bigger clubs, if they can go to UCL again and get a good season, they will fill the team with good players again and they will do well, they always do. PSV could get this chance but it will not really help them out a ton, they are going to do semi decent at the very best case and not that much better.

I hope not only for Ajax, but also for the Eredivisie, Ajax has a better setting and it would be important that Ajax get into the Champions League after Feyenoord, it is about many points for the 5 year ranking.

Feyenoord is going to win the title it is pretty sure. They are 8 points ahead of Ajax in second place. Ajax is now looking to secure second place in the points table. They are keen to qualify for the Champions League. But it won't be easy for them. PSV, who are third in the points table, are level on points with Ajax. And so if Ajax drops a point in any match they will lose second place in the table. The PSV team is pretty consistent right now. They will definitely try to qualify for the Champions League until the end of the season. And so it will not be easy for Ajax to occupy the second place in the table if their performances are not consistent.

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Quote from: casperBGD on April 18, 2023, 04:12:29 AM

PSV and Ajax are playing important match for position 2 and CL, while Feyenoord is hoping for a draw there to close them out as Champions
although, Feyenoord has important match with Roma, they are defending 1:0 from first match, to secure semi-final, with teams left in competition, I would not count them out as trophy contenders

There is a lot at stake in the game between Ajax and PSV, I don't think it will end in a draw, but it will be a very close game with a slight advantage for Ajax as they are playing at home.

As you write, Feyenoord will concentrate on the return match against Roma, they will not lose the championship, even with full concentration against Roma.

Quote from: sana54210 on April 18, 2023, 09:59:10 AM

I personally hope that it is Ajax because they are a much bigger and better team and they just had a bad season when their team was basically dissected by bigger clubs, if they can go to UCL again and get a good season, they will fill the team with good players again and they will do well, they always do. PSV could get this chance but it will not really help them out a ton, they are going to do semi decent at the very best case and not that much better.

I hope not only for Ajax, but also for the Eredivisie, Ajax has a better setting and it would be important that Ajax get into the Champions League after Feyenoord, it is about many points for the 5 year ranking.

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Quote from: casperBGD on April 18, 2023, 04:12:29 AM

Quote from: Koal-84 on April 17, 2023, 10:31:52 AM

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All three teams won yesterday, Ajax has the better goal difference than PSV, but this round Ajax will play against PSV, the second place will be decided, the winner of this match will probably be vice-champion, AZ has the fourth place as good as secured, Twente showed a lot of weakness at the end and have also fallen behind Sparta.

PSV and Ajax are playing important match for position 2 and CL, while Feyenoord is hoping for a draw there to close them out as Champions
although, Feyenoord has important match with Roma, they are defending 1:0 from first match, to secure semi-final, with teams left in competition, I would not count them out as trophy contenders

Sparta on position 5 brings two teams from Rotterdam into top5, doesn't happen often

The fact that they are going to play against each other means so much. It's not like they are going to play against other teams and maybe they will both get a win/loss at the same time, it means that unless it's a draw, one team will have a big blow and that is going to hurt them a lot.

I personally hope that it is Ajax because they are a much bigger and better team and they just had a bad season when their team was basically dissected by bigger clubs, if they can go to UCL again and get a good season, they will fill the team with good players again and they will do well, they always do. PSV could get this chance but it will not really help them out a ton, they are going to do semi decent at the very best case and not that much better.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on April 17, 2023, 10:31:52 AM

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All three teams won yesterday, Ajax has the better goal difference than PSV, but this round Ajax will play against PSV, the second place will be decided, the winner of this match will probably be vice-champion, AZ has the fourth place as good as secured, Twente showed a lot of weakness at the end and have also fallen behind Sparta.

PSV and Ajax are playing important match for position 2 and CL, while Feyenoord is hoping for a draw there to close them out as Champions
although, Feyenoord has important match with Roma, they are defending 1:0 from first match, to secure semi-final, with teams left in competition, I would not count them out as trophy contenders

Sparta on position 5 brings two teams from Rotterdam into top5, doesn't happen often

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Among the matches to be played this week, I see 2 important matches.The first of these will be played between PSV and Ajax, who are in the race for 2nd place.The winner of this match will be one step ahead.It is difficult to predict who will win in the match where both teams will give their last strength to win, but the home team will be one step ahead.The other match will be the Feyenoord-Utrecht match.Feyenoord will want to win the week of PSV-Ajax match, but their opponent is not an easy opponent.

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Quote from: FanEagle on April 17, 2023, 11:28:33 AM

Ajax won, PSV won, Feyenoord won, AZ won. All the top four teams won this week and that is a very difficult job for the ones following because they wanted the teams above them to lose but that just didn't happen. I guess it is going to be tough for AZ to start realizing that they are not going to end up with anything this season, it is possible that they will finish fourth. They had a hope that they could go further this season because it looked like the top teams were missing some chances, but it is not going to happen.

We know Feyenoord will be the winners of this season, and AZ will be fourth as well, the only thing that is left right now is to see which team will be second and which team will be third, Ajax or PSV? That is still up for debate.

The tough part in the Eredivisie is that either PSV or Ajax Amsterdam will miss the Champions League qualification. That is quite the hit against one of those teams. Both aspire to play the best competitions and both are trying to keep their best players and offer them the best soccer teams on the highest level possible. In less than seven days we will know a bit more when PSV is going to host Ajax. That's like their final game of this season. Besides the KNVB final of course.

I was trying to find out who qualifies for what when they win the KNVB but are actually qualified for something already. Why does the Eredivisie not have a Europa League qualification? My table says that 3rd goes into Conference League qualifiers.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on April 16, 2023, 09:14:37 AM

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today there will be 5 matches that must be followed, I choose PSV, Feyenoord, Ajax, twente, alkmaar on bet, it seems we can predict the winner.

PSV seems to be the first of the three teams with 3 points, even if only very close, in the 85th minute, but PSV has already led 2:0 and Volendam seems not to give up so easily, it is now only 3:2 for PSV. But Ajax must also first win tonight, Feyenoord has enough advantage and the game is not so decisive.

of the 5 bets that I made above, only in the twente match did I accept defeat, and the results were quite satisfying, but in the PSV vs. Ajax also appeared perfect even in the first half they were already 2 goals ahead. regarding feyenoord, well they are an extraordinary team this season, the Eredivisie champion trophy looks like they will have this season.

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Ajax won, PSV won, Feyenoord won, AZ won. All the top four teams won this week and that is a very difficult job for the ones following because they wanted the teams above them to lose but that just didn't happen. I guess it is going to be tough for AZ to start realizing that they are not going to end up with anything this season, it is possible that they will finish fourth. They had a hope that they could go further this season because it looked like the top teams were missing some chances, but it is not going to happen.

We know Feyenoord will be the winners of this season, and AZ will be fourth as well, the only thing that is left right now is to see which team will be second and which team will be third, Ajax or PSV? That is still up for debate.

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Quote from: wildan88 on April 16, 2023, 09:29:32 AM

Either PSV or Ajax will have a dramatic season if they cannot enforce qualification for CL. Ajax could still absorb it financially, but PSV has a much smaller budget of course.

For one of the two it is definitely bitter not to get into the Champions League, but on the non-championship way it will be very difficult for both in the PlayOff, Ajax would probably have even better chances than PSV because of the better seed. But financially, Ajax will be better off because of the high sales last year.

All three teams won yesterday, Ajax has the better goal difference than PSV, but this round Ajax will play against PSV, the second place will be decided, the winner of this match will probably be vice-champion, AZ has the fourth place as good as secured, Twente showed a lot of weakness at the end and have also fallen behind Sparta.

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Quote from: wildan88 on April 16, 2023, 09:29:32 AM

PSV won, but that was definitely not a convincing match either. The main thing is to collect the points now in this final phase of the competition. Beautiful football is no longer important now. Either PSV or Ajax will have a dramatic season if they cannot enforce qualification for CL. Ajax could still absorb it financially, but PSV has a much smaller budget of course. Volendam did its best today, but it just wasn't good enough. Twente also lost again today and has fallen back hard, especially after the winetrstop. Probe, they seemed to have potential to reach the top 3 places. RKC is the surprise of the season so far.

In second half Volendam done impressive job and try their best for having one point but PSV were still good to steal all three points and now having good chance for the stealing of second spot as next week we have match between PSV vs Ajax at Philips Stadion Eindhoven which is good advantage for them because their form at home is amazing and Ajax can lose points at home which will surely going to help PSV for having second spot in league.

Ajax won against Emmen by 3 - 1, and with this win now they are at the second spot with 62 points but having better goals difference form the PSV which is also having the same number of points.

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In the other matches of the day, we saw that there were plenty of goals again.Feyenoord won 3-0 against their relegated opponent.We can say that they were the dominant side throughout the match.They took 25 shots in the match and converted 3 of them into goals.They did not allow Ajax to close the point difference and they are taking firm steps towards the championship. PSV, on the other hand, got 3 points by beating their relegation zone rival 3-2 away from home.They are in a race with Ajax for the worst 2nd place, so they have no chance to lose points anymore.Volendam had to get points from this match to avoid relegation, but they failed.

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Apparently easy how Feyenoord won the away match against Cambuur today. This is also the big difference between Feyenoord and the other top teams. Other teams have the greatest difficulty in winning against such opponents, while Feyenoord has convincing victories every week. And that will not change in the next game. It has become an individual between Ajax and PSV, and it can go either way. I think it is impossible for PSV to keep Xavi Simons at the club. If PSV make it to the CL, Simons may have a little more motivation to join the club.

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In the matches played today, we saw that the teams in the championship race won without losing points.AZ Alkmaar took 3 points away with 3 goals.Alkmaar, who scored 2 goals in the first half, broke the match here.Fortuna sittard's job became difficult from this minute and already failed to turn the match around.Ajax, on the other hand, defeated its relegation zone rival 3-1 and got 3 points.Emmen's defeat in a match where they needed points shows that things are getting worse.We can say that stressful days will start slowly for them.

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Only five weeks to go in the season and the gap with Feyenoord is 8 points for Ajax and PSV both. This is a really difficult task to perform for these two teams from now on. Feyenoord are playing very dedicatedly by continuing to win every single one of their matches remaining. If I checked it correctly they have been on a winning streak of nine matches in the Eredivisie. This team absolutely deserve to be the champions this season with this high level performance.

They don't have big difficulties in focusing on the league and the Europa League at the same time as well. As you said they have already captured a good advantage by winning 1-0 against Roma. Their job is still difficult though but I don't think they will give up easily at all. This is the most successful season for them in the recent times certainly.

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Quote from: yayayo on April 16, 2023, 10:43:28 AM

Not much spectacle so far at the match between Cambuur and Feyenoord. Feyenoord is the better team as expected, but it is only 0-1 and so Cambuur is still in the race. I don't expect it to be another game in the 2nd half. If we quickly get the 0-2 and 0-3 then the resistance is broken. Would be nice for the tension if Cambuur managed to turn the 0-1 deficit into a 2-1 lead, but how realistic would that be? I think a very small chance. It doesn't matter for the title fight anyway. Cambuur also has little to gain and to lose.

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We don't have to expect any miracles from Cambuur either. They're just not good enough for that. But a goal can still fall just right for this team. It is a dream season for Feyenoord. The current situation allows them to freewheel to the championship, and they are also in good shape in the EL due to a hard-fought home win over AS Roma. I just don't think Arne Slot will stay with Feyenoord next season, a success coach just like Ten Hag will make a switch to the EPL. There he will earn at least 3 or 4 as much and he will have a top team under his wing.

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Not much spectacle so far at the match between Cambuur and Feyenoord. Feyenoord is the better team as expected, but it is only 0-1 and so Cambuur is still in the race. I don't expect it to be another game in the 2nd half. If we quickly get the 0-2 and 0-3 then the resistance is broken. Would be nice for the tension if Cambuur managed to turn the 0-1 deficit into a 2-1 lead, but how realistic would that be? I think a very small chance. It doesn't matter for the title fight anyway. Cambuur also has little to gain and to lose.

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PSV won, but that was definitely not a convincing match either. The main thing is to collect the points now in this final phase of the competition. Beautiful football is no longer important now. Either PSV or Ajax will have a dramatic season if they cannot enforce qualification for CL. Ajax could still absorb it financially, but PSV has a much smaller budget of course. Volendam did its best today, but it just wasn't good enough. Twente also lost again today and has fallen back hard, especially after the winetrstop. Probe, they seemed to have potential to reach the top 3 places. RKC is the surprise of the season so far.

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