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February 08, 2023, 01:22:24 PM
I always take an eye on this league and also in the portuguese one, because for me they are the two more important asides of the big 5.

Its really interesting to see this year how tight its the fight for the championship, and also for the internationals cups spots.

Its also good to see Feyenoord again on top, lets see if they can hold the first spot.

One team who i dont know why they are not more high in the tabble its Twente i see them against Ajax a few weeks ago and they play really good, but seems like they dont have some punch in the fowards.
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February 08, 2023, 12:12:00 PM
In the recent outings, Az Alkmaar has disappointed somany bettors that expected a good result from them, the most devastating game is the yesterday game that the played host to Utrecht in the cup match that ended 1:2 in favour of the away team in the extra time, I see some people say that cup matches are not taken serious by some clubs that are major contenders of a particular league, personally I don't see that ideology as a good one because be it cup or league match I see all as a competition that has trophy so relating it to this match Az Alkmaar has under performed, they dashed the hope of many in this game.
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February 08, 2023, 10:41:20 AM
With only 2 different points, I think not hard for AZ to beat Feyenoord's position this week at least a day before Feyenoord plays away to Heerenveen. The odds are very interesting because the bookie makes 1.22 for AZ and 11.0  for SBV, with this number we can see who a favorite to win, and the other match, Feyenoord (1.7) also the favorite to beat Heerenveen (4.5) even play away.

I think both teams will win their games and the 2 point gap will remain. The top teams in the league don't have any direct duels this round and can't take any points away from each other. But the TOP 5 also have to win first, that's not certain - there can always be surprises.
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February 07, 2023, 10:47:46 PM
With only 2 different points, I think not hard for AZ to beat Feyenoord's position this week at least a day before Feyenoord plays away to Heerenveen. The odds are very interesting because the bookie makes 1.22 for AZ and 11.0  for SBV, with this number we can see who a favorite to win, and the other match, Feyenoord (1.7) also the favorite to beat Heerenveen (4.5) even play away.
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February 07, 2023, 03:13:45 PM
I can't remember when I last saw such a statistic. No joke, but this is probably not even going to happen frequently when the first of a national first league plays against the last of a national second league. It is funny if you break that down by ball possession. Feyenoord had the ball about 65 minutes of the time and created 35 shots. That is less than two minutes per shot over the entire period of their ball possession. I just can't recall a game like that and the fact that it ended 2:2 and Feyenoord literally had lost the game when they were 0-2 down is just insanity and almost a fun fact Cheesy I can't believe what I am reading. 12:1 corners as well. That game is almost worth watching some replay.

I agree, according to the statistics it's almost impossible that Feyenoord didn't win, but that's football and Feyenoord was even 0:2 behind, probably without the red card even PSV would have won narrowly. For the league itself and me as an Ajax fan, the draw is of course preferable, so everything remains exciting.

Here are the Highlights of the game Feyenoord vs PSV.

https://start.sportdigital.de/mediathek/25339/Feyenoord+Rotterdam+-+PSV+Eindhoven+%28Highlights%29

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February 07, 2023, 02:30:45 PM
PSV has missed the opportunity to connect with the leader. 0-2 ahead with fifteen minutes to play. PSV had one man less, but Feyenoord was constantly looking for the attack. In the end, the game ended in 2-2. It is too early to say that Ajax has things in order after the 0-5 victory at Cambuur Leeuwarden, but it is good for confidence. Since Schreuder left, Heitinga has now won 2x easily. I hope that Ajax can now also get involved in the battle for the championship. But in this league it's every week changing places in the rankings, no one seems to be consistent enough.
Unfortunately I didn't see the game or a summary, but according to the raw data PSV had to be happy about the point, in shots on goal, possession and also one red card PSV got. According to this data Feyenoord was clearly the better team and PSV must be happy for the point. But as I wrote at the beginning, I didn't see the game.



But as already written, the equaliser in late injury time was also lucky.

It's true that Feyenoord's players attacked a lot and made a lot of shots. But most of their shots were off-target. Had the forwards been able to perform a bit better with plenty of attack they could have scored at least 4 goals in this match. Due to their own failure, they can't win even after performing well. PSV on the other hand only resisted Feyenoord's attacks. and tries to score from the counterattack. Despite relatively few attacks, they scored 2 goals and drew the match.

I would say Feyenoord should be a bit more tactical. Victory is not achieved by attacking unplanned alone. They have a strong team. They can defeat any big team if they conduct a planned attack.

I can't remember when I last saw such a statistic. No joke, but this is probably not even going to happen frequently when the first of a national first league plays against the last of a national second league. It is funny if you break that down by ball possession. Feyenoord had the ball about 65 minutes of the time and created 35 shots. That is less than two minutes per shot over the entire period of their ball possession. I just can't recall a game like that and the fact that it ended 2:2 and Feyenoord literally had lost the game when they were 0-2 down is just insanity and almost a fun fact Cheesy I can't believe what I am reading. 12:1 corners as well. That game is almost worth watching some replay.
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February 06, 2023, 10:25:06 PM
PSV has missed the opportunity to connect with the leader. 0-2 ahead with fifteen minutes to play. PSV had one man less, but Feyenoord was constantly looking for the attack. In the end, the game ended in 2-2. It is too early to say that Ajax has things in order after the 0-5 victory at Cambuur Leeuwarden, but it is good for confidence. Since Schreuder left, Heitinga has now won 2x easily. I hope that Ajax can now also get involved in the battle for the championship. But in this league it's every week changing places in the rankings, no one seems to be consistent enough.
Unfortunately I didn't see the game or a summary, but according to the raw data PSV had to be happy about the point, in shots on goal, possession and also one red card PSV got. According to this data Feyenoord was clearly the better team and PSV must be happy for the point. But as I wrote at the beginning, I didn't see the game.



But as already written, the equaliser in late injury time was also lucky.

It's true that Feyenoord's players attacked a lot and made a lot of shots. But most of their shots were off-target. Had the forwards been able to perform a bit better with plenty of attack they could have scored at least 4 goals in this match. Due to their own failure, they can't win even after performing well. PSV on the other hand only resisted Feyenoord's attacks. and tries to score from the counterattack. Despite relatively few attacks, they scored 2 goals and drew the match.

I would say Feyenoord should be a bit more tactical. Victory is not achieved by attacking unplanned alone. They have a strong team. They can defeat any big team if they conduct a planned attack.
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February 06, 2023, 05:25:35 PM
I know, still too early to call, but I think both Feyenoord and Eindhoven have just done Ajax the biggest favour ever today.
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totally
as I said, Ajax is the only team that can win in series, and 8 points advantage that Feyenoord once had was nothing compared to that fact
not sure is that obvious now, but Ajax will probably win another title this season, will all others falling as the season continues, hopefully season will be at least interesting till last rounds

Astute observation, I thought the media here and chats I'm aware of (Eredivisie is about as local as it gets where I am) were too naive. Now is Schreuder has stayed, I might have changed my mind too but consistency is not the drink of any Dutch team not named Ajax.

Pundits are still hammering on about Timber's "blunder" but really, they're only rioting because they're still in the clouds about the title.
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February 06, 2023, 03:38:11 PM
Feyenoord managed to gain 1 point thanks to the Iranian forward.  The goal he scored in the 90+6th minute prevented Feyenoord from getting stuck in the race to the top.  Had PSV won this match they would have moved into second place.  In the last minutes of the match, they experienced a great disappointment and could not get 3 points.  Leader Feyenoord continues on his way.
PSV is a very strong team. Feyenoord drew this match, which is definitely a good result for them. However, compared to PSV, Feyenoord's performance was much better in this match. A total of 35 35 shots were made by Feyenoord's players. Even then they can't win. They scored in extra time to draw the match. They scored the first goal in the 81st minute. However, PSV would have conceded at least 4 goals if PSV's defenders and goalkeepers did not play well in this match.
PSV was good in this all match but sadly due to RED CARD they lost one player and then lost two points as well with Feyenoord were able to score a goal in injury time and have good end of this match but still the best beneficiary of this match is Ajax which now having just three points difference and things are moved up for them to fight back for their top spot even now they have some tight schedule with UEFA Europa Cup is also starting again, and they have to do hard work for taking back this spot but with their quality and change of performance level can bring them back for their defend of title.

Heitinga is doing good job as caretaker coach as now he will stay until end of this season and most chances if he is able to handle things in positive way then surely they can go with him in near future as well.
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February 06, 2023, 08:03:13 AM
PSV has missed the opportunity to connect with the leader. 0-2 ahead with fifteen minutes to play. PSV had one man less, but Feyenoord was constantly looking for the attack. In the end, the game ended in 2-2. It is too early to say that Ajax has things in order after the 0-5 victory at Cambuur Leeuwarden, but it is good for confidence. Since Schreuder left, Heitinga has now won 2x easily. I hope that Ajax can now also get involved in the battle for the championship. But in this league it's every week changing places in the rankings, no one seems to be consistent enough.

Unfortunately I didn't see the game or a summary, but according to the raw data PSV had to be happy about the point, in shots on goal, possession and also one red card PSV got. According to this data Feyenoord was clearly the better team and PSV must be happy for the point. But as I wrote at the beginning, I didn't see the game.



But as already written, the equaliser in late injury time was also lucky.
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February 06, 2023, 06:05:06 AM
PSV has missed the opportunity to connect with the leader. 0-2 ahead with fifteen minutes to play. PSV had one man less, but Feyenoord was constantly looking for the attack. In the end, the game ended in 2-2. It is too early to say that Ajax has things in order after the 0-5 victory at Cambuur Leeuwarden, but it is good for confidence. Since Schreuder left, Heitinga has now won 2x easily. I hope that Ajax can now also get involved in the battle for the championship. But in this league it's every week changing places in the rankings, no one seems to be consistent enough.
the final result of feyenoord vs PSV was really surprising because the 2 goals scored by feyenoord occurred in the 81' and 96' minutes. but I saw that happen because PSV only played with 10 people (Obispo got a red card), so it was only natural that their defense became weak and failed to maintain a 2-0 lead until the end of the match.
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February 06, 2023, 04:59:08 AM
PSV has missed the opportunity to connect with the leader. 0-2 ahead with fifteen minutes to play. PSV had one man less, but Feyenoord was constantly looking for the attack. In the end, the game ended in 2-2. It is too early to say that Ajax has things in order after the 0-5 victory at Cambuur Leeuwarden, but it is good for confidence. Since Schreuder left, Heitinga has now won 2x easily. I hope that Ajax can now also get involved in the battle for the championship. But in this league it's every week changing places in the rankings, no one seems to be consistent enough.
Feyenoord managed to gain 1 point thanks to the Iranian forward.  The goal he scored in the 90+6th minute prevented Feyenoord from getting stuck in the race to the top.  Had PSV won this match they would have moved into second place.  In the last minutes of the match, they experienced a great disappointment and could not get 3 points.  Leader Feyenoord continues on his way.

PSV is a very strong team. Feyenoord drew this match, which is definitely a good result for them. However, compared to PSV, Feyenoord's performance was much better in this match. A total of 35 35 shots were made by Feyenoord's players. Even then they can't win. They scored in extra time to draw the match. They scored the first goal in the 81st minute. However, PSV would have conceded at least 4 goals if PSV's defenders and goalkeepers did not play well in this match.
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February 06, 2023, 03:02:42 AM
PSV has missed the opportunity to connect with the leader. 0-2 ahead with fifteen minutes to play. PSV had one man less, but Feyenoord was constantly looking for the attack. In the end, the game ended in 2-2. It is too early to say that Ajax has things in order after the 0-5 victory at Cambuur Leeuwarden, but it is good for confidence. Since Schreuder left, Heitinga has now won 2x easily. I hope that Ajax can now also get involved in the battle for the championship. But in this league it's every week changing places in the rankings, no one seems to be consistent enough.
Feyenoord managed to gain 1 point thanks to the Iranian forward.  The goal he scored in the 90+6th minute prevented Feyenoord from getting stuck in the race to the top.  Had PSV won this match they would have moved into second place.  In the last minutes of the match, they experienced a great disappointment and could not get 3 points.  Leader Feyenoord continues on his way.
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February 06, 2023, 02:44:11 AM
this league is very strange, this was a great opportunity for us to see another team become champion, all teams saw that ajax was going through serious difficulties and that because of that they lost points, but they didn't lose games constantly, there were just a lot of draws which clearly demonstrated that if ajax got a good coach they would be strong again, but the other teams instead of taking advantage of the opportunity to win every game

they also lost points, and now we can see ajax already reborn and with a small difference of points with the leader of the table and it is not necessary to be psychic to predict that in a few weeks ajax will be the number 1 in the table and will be champion . unfortunately it will still take years for us to see other teams being champions, a very sad scenario
This is an amazing thing happening in this league as we can check all results and other details which are clearly indicating things were not favouring Ajax but with the help of all other teams now they are back in business and from this all now they have gape of points just 3, and we have 14 rounds left mean they are going to defend their title without any problem because no other team having quality and ability to challenge them while they are on their best.

Ajax lost nearly 14 points in seven draws and now have six points from last two games but Feyenoord, AZ Alkmaar lost 4 points each in the last two games and PSV lost five points from their last three games but suddenly all are on level which is clearly indicating how strong Ajax is in this league for the title race.
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February 06, 2023, 02:13:06 AM
they also lost points, and now we can see ajax already reborn and with a small difference of points with the leader of the table and it is not necessary to be psychic to predict that in a few weeks ajax will be the number 1 in the table and will be champion . unfortunately it will still take years for us to see other teams being champions, a very sad scenario
Ajax is now just 3 points behind Feyenoord at the top of the table. Their performance is quite good. But I would say that Ajax does not have a squad worthy of winning the title. Ajax can play well but Feyenoord and Alkmaar have more chances to win the title than Ajax. However, Ajax is a very experienced team. They know very well how to play to win the title. The squad has been consistently performing well in relatively weak teams due to their excellent match tactics.

There is no way to underestimate the Ajax team. In each of the last four seasons, we have seen one-sided Ajax dominance. This team is very experienced. They have been a little behind this season as they have sold quite a few players from the squad. The performance of the team was a bit unstable for a few days due to the sudden departure of some of the squad's players. But now the Ajax team's performance is stable. They are unbeaten in the last 8 matches. And so this team has a chance to win the title this season as well. There is still a long journey ahead.
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February 05, 2023, 09:56:11 PM
this league is very strange, this was a great opportunity for us to see another team become champion, all teams saw that ajax was going through serious difficulties and that because of that they lost points, but they didn't lose games constantly, there were just a lot of draws which clearly demonstrated that if ajax got a good coach they would be strong again, but the other teams instead of taking advantage of the opportunity to win every game

they also lost points, and now we can see ajax already reborn and with a small difference of points with the leader of the table and it is not necessary to be psychic to predict that in a few weeks ajax will be the number 1 in the table and will be champion . unfortunately it will still take years for us to see other teams being champions, a very sad scenario

Ajax' performance dropped like a rock over the course of the season. Just have a look at the stats... Out of the last 8 games they won 2 games, tied 5 games and lost 1 game. If you recall how they started into the season who would have thought that they can get into so much trouble for such a long period of time?

I am not following the Eredivisie perfectly closely, but if I remember correctly we haven't seen such a fiercely competitive upper part of the table in a very long time right? Wasn't it always Ajax and PSV who were miles away from most of the other teams and just were fighting a 1 vs. 1 so to say?

This time there are 5 teams with realistic chances to win the Eredivisie. I am quite sure that must have been a while ago that that was the case.
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February 05, 2023, 09:32:48 PM
they also lost points, and now we can see ajax already reborn and with a small difference of points with the leader of the table and it is not necessary to be psychic to predict that in a few weeks ajax will be the number 1 in the table and will be champion . unfortunately it will still take years for us to see other teams being champions, a very sad scenario

Ajax is now just 3 points behind Feyenoord at the top of the table. Their performance is quite good. But I would say that Ajax does not have a squad worthy of winning the title. Ajax can play well but Feyenoord and Alkmaar have more chances to win the title than Ajax. However, Ajax is a very experienced team. They know very well how to play to win the title. The squad has been consistently performing well in relatively weak teams due to their excellent match tactics.
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February 05, 2023, 04:39:56 PM
this league is very strange, this was a great opportunity for us to see another team become champion, all teams saw that ajax was going through serious difficulties and that because of that they lost points, but they didn't lose games constantly, there were just a lot of draws which clearly demonstrated that if ajax got a good coach they would be strong again, but the other teams instead of taking advantage of the opportunity to win every game

they also lost points, and now we can see ajax already reborn and with a small difference of points with the leader of the table and it is not necessary to be psychic to predict that in a few weeks ajax will be the number 1 in the table and will be champion . unfortunately it will still take years for us to see other teams being champions, a very sad scenario
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February 05, 2023, 03:45:51 PM
That Feyenoord draw with Feyenoord goes against logic. Feyenoord dominated game, especially in 2nd half, but PSV managed to score 2nd goal when they already were one man down. After all, Feyenoord made comeback to 2:2, thanks to Jahanbakhsh goals, but draw isn't good outcome for both teams.

as I said, Ajax is the only team that can win in series, and 8 points advantage that Feyenoord once had was nothing compared to that fact
Seems that Ajax is back on track. Very comfortable win against Cambuur and completely all their main opponents - Feyenoord, PSV, Twente and AZ dropped points. Twente and AZ done it against weak teams.
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February 05, 2023, 03:10:01 PM
In any case, things are moving in the right direction with Ajax. I think they had not managed to win 6 games in a row until last week and then also played a draw at home against Volendam, for example. If you win 0-5 at Cambuur Leeuwarden, that doesn't say everything, but it is nice for Ajax and for Heitinga. Heitinga will also finish the season as trainer of Ajax, but I suspect that they will look for another trainer in the summer. But where should Heitinga go then? If he does well with Ajax, you can hardly send him away. Feyenoord PSV finished 2-2 and that was perhaps the best possible result for the competitors to catch up with both. And Twente also failed to win and played a draw against the number last in the ranking.
No doubt after long frustrating time now they are back at their best and top teams are also giving them good opportunity to have defended their title for another time which is good Feyenoord and AZ Alkmaar both held and now Ajax is surely not going to lose this opportunity to get their rank back with now just three points gapes and next week is good for the all teams as they are going to face weaker sides which are not going to resist, and these all are going to have full three points.

But the remaining 14 rounds are going to have full entertainment and action for the Dutch league fans because this time we have most of the top teams are on same level of quality and their performance could be also good until end of this season.
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