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February 13, 2023, 12:15:04 PM
Man Twente its paying 67 to win the championship, its a really good one oportunity to risk some money.

And AZ also its paying x17... really good odds seeing the bigs are not so powerfull like other years.

The rest of the teams odds.

- Ajax 2.62
- PSV 4.33
- Feyenoord 2.10

Source : BET365.

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February 13, 2023, 04:01:29 AM
Win 3:1 against Waalwijk wasn't that easy as it looks in final score. They let opponents to score first and only took a lead in final 15 minutes game. I still wouldn't make conclusions about Heitinga, as they haven't faced strong opponents yet. Yeah, they won against Twente in cup, but cup games isn't best indicator. Let's see how they will look in Europa league playoffs against Union.

Ajax won the game with a strong finish, and it was deserved, Ajax had 74% possession but possession alone does not decide a game.

The TOP5 won all their games, Ajax got back on track after many draws and unlike the others won the last 3 games and are now back in the title race. Feyenoord has a very difficult match against AZ in the next round, the current table.
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February 12, 2023, 06:17:34 PM
Ajax has improved recently, after the international break ajax played several matches without winning they even struggle for a draw but their consecutive winning lately has proven that they have really improved drastically, we all know that ajax is been known for their tactical and aggressive attacking football that what happened today in a between them and waalwijk, an encounter that ended 3:1 in favour of Ajax, but a lot has to be done by ajax in the area of defensive mildfield.

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i'm laughing because in this game ajax conceded a goal in the 18 minutes, so i wonder if someone managed to bet on ajax's victory even though they were losing after 18 minutes, if someone bet on ajax when they were losing then that person must have gotten a decent odd on this game, I didn't particularly bet on this game or any Dutch league game, but I confess that if I had seen ajax's game after the 18 minutes they lost, I would have bet on them, it would be an easy profit

about the position of each team in the table, with this return of ajax we can already predict that in a few games we will see ajax at the top of the table and being champion, I do not see any other scenario at the end of the season, ajax will be champion once again
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February 12, 2023, 05:55:06 PM
In this round status quo remains, as all teams from leading group won their games. Feyenoord had most diffiuclt win 1:2 against Heerenveen. While PSV had one of the most dominating performances this season, destroying Groningen 6:0. Their stats looks amazing, 34 shots, 13 on target.

Ajax has improved recently, after the international break ajax played several matches without winning they even struggle for a draw but their consecutive winning lately has proven that they have really improved drastically, we all know that ajax is been known for their tactical and aggressive attacking football that what happened today in a between them and waalwijk, an encounter that ended 3:1 in favour of Ajax, but a lot has to be done by ajax in the area of defensive mildfield.
Win 3:1 against Waalwijk wasn't that easy as it looks in final score. They let opponents to score first and only took a lead in final 15 minutes game. I still wouldn't make conclusions about Heitinga, as they haven't faced strong opponents yet. Yeah, they won against Twente in cup, but cup games isn't best indicator. Let's see how they will look in Europa league playoffs against Union.
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February 12, 2023, 05:18:03 PM
Ajax has improved recently, after the international break ajax played several matches without winning they even struggle for a draw but their consecutive winning lately has proven that they have really improved drastically, we all know that ajax is been known for their tactical and aggressive attacking football that what happened today in a between them and waalwijk, an encounter that ended 3:1 in favour of Ajax, but a lot has to be done by ajax in the area of defensive mildfield.

Since the arrival of the Heitinga, Ajax has indeed won all 3 matches, but what does that say in this competition? A winning coach is always right, and in the end it's all about the points in football. Then we must conclude that he did a very good job. Still, they could have easily lost the match against Excelsior (that wouldn't even have been strange). But it also shows resilience that they still managed to win today's game despite an earlier deficit. I think that is also part of the quality of a player / team. For many players, the focus will be on the European matches that will be played in the coming days.
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February 12, 2023, 05:12:34 PM
So Jhon Heitinga its now the manager of Ajax, really nice to see him. I remember him a lot in the netherland national team, he was a regular one.

Later im gonna check some odds....

Yes that's right. Heitinga has been in charge of Ajax's 2nd team for the past few years and Ajax has decided to temporarily make him head coach. Little experience, but a child of the club and knows all the players. He may even have played together with some at Ajax. Schreuder made a very immature and childish impression in his press conferences. Peter Bosz was also free as a coach, but seems not to have been approached. But you can't call Ajax's last 3 matches because they were significantly lesser opponents. In the EL next week we will see where Ajax really stands against Union Berlin.
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February 12, 2023, 03:44:52 PM
So Jhon Heitinga its now the manager of Ajax, really nice to see him. I remember him a lot in the netherland national team, he was a regular one.

Later im gonna check some odds....
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February 12, 2023, 01:48:59 PM
Ajax has improved recently, after the international break ajax played several matches without winning they even struggle for a draw but their consecutive winning lately has proven that they have really improved drastically, we all know that ajax is been known for their tactical and aggressive attacking football that what happened today in a between them and waalwijk, an encounter that ended 3:1 in favour of Ajax, but a lot has to be done by ajax in the area of defensive mildfield.
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February 12, 2023, 12:16:20 PM
Ajax is currently at a 1-1 score in the home match against RKC. Still quite a loss if you think about it. Structurally, a lot still needs to change. It is a matter of time before Ajax will no longer compete for the title. Twente was already leading 3-0 in the first half and we still see that score on the board now. Vitesse has been almost at the bottom for a while, but has too much quality. They have climbed out of the valley, but I don't think there is more than enforcement for this team. Still curious if a coach like Peter Bosz could bring Ajax back to the old level.
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February 12, 2023, 11:19:41 AM
PSV played hard today in the home game against gronigen, one of the worst teams in the Eredivisie this season. And Fortuna Sittard has also had an excellent season so far. Since a Turkish trainer came to power there, things have only gone very well. And the arrival of Burak Yilmaz will certainly have contributed to that, I think. Emmen still need not panic. How will Ajax and Feyenoord do tomorrow? Both teams also have important games next week in European tournaments, so the question is how the players will be deployed in this match. Things seem to have only gotten better with Ajax since Schreuder left there. I think he can forget his coaching career.

The European League have challenge opponents with the best quality of play from various Leagues. This situation will be a consideration for these two clubs, they may face a big challenge in the Europa League, I think these two clubs prefer to continue to compete consistently in the Eredivisie.

Feyenoord managed to end the match with a 2-1 win today, while Ajax are struggling as they go 1-0 down after Mats Seuntjens scored for Waalwijk in the 17th minute
The Ajax vs Waalwijk match enters the 30th minute
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February 12, 2023, 11:05:02 AM
Difficult Feyenoord victory, but who cares? Won is won. Ajax and Twente have now also started their matches and both play a home match against a team that is weak on paper. Those should be easy wins too. By the way, PSV won very easily against Groningen yesterday and at the end of the match there was a score of 6-0 on the scoreboard. Those are big numbers. There are basically 5 title candidates, who will be the first to drop out? I would also like to see Twente and AZ finish in first place, but they are qualitatively below Ajax. But maybe even above Feyenoord.

PSV, Feyenoord and Ajax have always been the 3 big clubs in the Netherlands. From Twente it is actually a miracle that they still exist, this club almost went bankrupt a few years ago and I don't think it was saved with the help of the municipality. That they are now so high is very clever, but Ron Jans, the trainer also had a large share in that, I think. And Sparta is in a place they could only dream of. Had to fight relegation all year last year, that time seems to be over. And next week there will also be many European matches, with that in mind, certain teams will have given players some rest.
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February 12, 2023, 11:00:20 AM
Difficult Feyenoord victory, but who cares? Won is won. Ajax and Twente have now also started their matches and both play a home match against a team that is weak on paper. Those should be easy wins too. By the way, PSV won very easily against Groningen yesterday and at the end of the match there was a score of 6-0 on the scoreboard. Those are big numbers. There are basically 5 title candidates, who will be the first to drop out? I would also like to see Twente and AZ finish in first place, but they are qualitatively below Ajax. But maybe even above Feyenoord.
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February 12, 2023, 07:43:35 AM
AZ and PSV have started with a goal festival, now Ajax and Feyenoord have to follow suit to stay in front. Twente should also win if they want to stay in the TOP 5, otherwise the gap could be a bit big.

AZ now once at the top of the table, when was that last time? Are there any statistics on this?

Not in my very short lifetime of memory of Eredivisie, for sure! Going to need to look that up in Dutch to find it I guess, but no, I'm sure their fans are enjoying this for a long time

Now if only Waalwijk can do everyone a favour and take some points of Ajax to keep the dream of them not winning alive just a little longer, that'd be great, ha.
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February 12, 2023, 07:38:39 AM
AZ and PSV have started with a goal festival, now Ajax and Feyenoord have to follow suit to stay in front. Twente should also win if they want to stay in the TOP 5, otherwise the gap could be a bit big.

AZ now once at the top of the table, when was that last time? Are there any statistics on this?
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February 11, 2023, 10:43:36 PM
PSV played hard today in the home game against gronigen, one of the worst teams in the Eredivisie this season. And Fortuna Sittard has also had an excellent season so far. Since a Turkish trainer came to power there, things have only gone very well. And the arrival of Burak Yilmaz will certainly have contributed to that, I think. Emmen still need not panic. How will Ajax and Feyenoord do tomorrow? Both teams also have important games next week in European tournaments, so the question is how the players will be deployed in this match. Things seem to have only gotten better with Ajax since Schreuder left there. I think he can forget his coaching career.

A win in this match is very important for PSV. Because they are behind in the points table. Now in the third position. PSV has no chance of winning the title if they do not get full points in the next matches. PSV played well against Groningen. They scored 6 goals. PSV scored one goal in the first half, and they scored 5 goals in the second half. PSV players made 34 shots in the full 90 minutes.
Fortuna Sittard had a narrow win against Emenn. Fortuna Sittard is unbeaten in their last four matches and has won all three matches. This team is not very strong but is playing well.
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February 11, 2023, 05:15:14 PM
PSV played hard today in the home game against gronigen, one of the worst teams in the Eredivisie this season. And Fortuna Sittard has also had an excellent season so far. Since a Turkish trainer came to power there, things have only gone very well. And the arrival of Burak Yilmaz will certainly have contributed to that, I think. Emmen still need not panic. How will Ajax and Feyenoord do tomorrow? Both teams also have important games next week in European tournaments, so the question is how the players will be deployed in this match. Things seem to have only gotten better with Ajax since Schreuder left there. I think he can forget his coaching career.
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February 09, 2023, 05:06:24 AM
I can't remember when I last saw such a statistic. No joke, but this is probably not even going to happen frequently when the first of a national first league plays against the last of a national second league. It is funny if you break that down by ball possession. Feyenoord had the ball about 65 minutes of the time and created 35 shots. That is less than two minutes per shot over the entire period of their ball possession. I just can't recall a game like that and the fact that it ended 2:2 and Feyenoord literally had lost the game when they were 0-2 down is just insanity and almost a fun fact Cheesy I can't believe what I am reading. 12:1 corners as well. That game is almost worth watching some replay.

I agree, according to the statistics it's almost impossible that Feyenoord didn't win, but that's football and Feyenoord was even 0:2 behind, probably without the red card even PSV would have won narrowly. For the league itself and me as an Ajax fan, the draw is of course preferable, so everything remains exciting.

Here are the Highlights of the game Feyenoord vs PSV.

https://start.sportdigital.de/mediathek/25339/Feyenoord+Rotterdam+-+PSV+Eindhoven+%28Highlights%29



Thanks for sharing the link!

Oh absolutely, results like these given the statistics is soccer at its best, but this game in particular is just insane in terms of the statistics Cheesy

I mean we have seen many games with one-sided statistics, but this was even on another level in terms of "one-sided" Wink

I agree with you that it can't hurt to keep the season exciting, but the same counts for Ajax showing weaknesses these days. It would be as boring if Ajax kept winning like they sometimes do and nobody else except for PSV has a chance. Now it is an open race and it's worth following it.

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February 09, 2023, 02:12:42 AM
In the recent outings, Az Alkmaar has disappointed somany bettors that expected a good result from them, the most devastating game is the yesterday game that the played host to Utrecht in the cup match that ended 1:2 in favour of the away team in the extra time, I see some people say that cup matches are not taken serious by some clubs that are major contenders of a particular league, personally I don't see that ideology as a good one because be it cup or league match I see all as a competition that has trophy so relating it to this match Az Alkmaar has under performed, they dashed the hope of many in this game.
I think this season AZ Alkmaar is aiming to do well in the Eredivisie league. And they want to win the Eredivisie league title. Alkmaar is now 2 points behind Feyenoord at the top of the table. And so they now want to focus only on the Eredivisie. But the defeat against Utrecht was unexpected. Utrecht was not a strong team. Even then Alkmaar could not win this match. I would say it was their bad luck. Alkmaar players attacked a lot in this match. Alkmaar players made a total of 27 shots in this match. But their misfortune was that they lost the match despite attacking a lot. Alkmaar lost but their performance was very good.
Agreed with you about AZ Alkmaar aim because they are doing impressive work for the better end of this season even in last two matches they have shocking results but still things are in their favour, and they have good chance for staying at this spot for more time before this cup game they already face Utrecht in league match, and we have rain of goals in this match with AZ Alkmaar done good job after conceding two early goals, so now this time in cup game they have done good job but still this was not enough for them to secure their spot in next round.

We have another amazing game while Feyenoord face Nijmegen really shocking result as Nijmegen were leading until 90th minute and then two injury time goals help Feyenoord to go into extra time and then won their match after penalties mostly teams not preferred these cup games, but mostly this happens no with all teams.
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February 08, 2023, 04:51:24 PM
I always take an eye on this league and also in the portuguese one, because for me they are the two more important asides of the big 5.

Its really interesting to see this year how tight its the fight for the championship, and also for the internationals cups spots.

Its also good to see Feyenoord again on top, lets see if they can hold the first spot.

One team who i dont know why they are not more high in the tabble its Twente i see them against Ajax a few weeks ago and they play really good, but seems like they dont have some punch in the fowards.
I think you have some misunderstanding as these both leagues which are you talking are not in top five, but we can say these are in big ten or seven because we already have big five with the England Premier League, French Ligue 1, Bundesliga Germany, Serie A Italy and La Liga Spain these are the big fives in UEFA and these two are coming after these five.
Surely this season is full of entertainment for the fans because things are going very tight for the title race in presence of Feyenoord is leading, and AZ Alkmaar is having second spot and Ajax and PSV are struggling which are mostly having top rank in this league but just four points difference, and we are still having 14 matches left which mean too many exciting matches and good entertainment for the fans as well.

Twente is also doing good even their recent performance bring them down but still good for the UEFA Conference league play-offs, hopefully things will be more interesting in coming weeks.
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February 08, 2023, 02:13:59 PM
In the recent outings, Az Alkmaar has disappointed somany bettors that expected a good result from them, the most devastating game is the yesterday game that the played host to Utrecht in the cup match that ended 1:2 in favour of the away team in the extra time, I see some people say that cup matches are not taken serious by some clubs that are major contenders of a particular league, personally I don't see that ideology as a good one because be it cup or league match I see all as a competition that has trophy so relating it to this match Az Alkmaar has under performed, they dashed the hope of many in this game.

I think this season AZ Alkmaar is aiming to do well in the Eredivisie league. And they want to win the Eredivisie league title. Alkmaar is now 2 points behind Feyenoord at the top of the table. And so they now want to focus only on the Eredivisie. But the defeat against Utrecht was unexpected. Utrecht was not a strong team. Even then Alkmaar could not win this match. I would say it was their bad luck. Alkmaar players attacked a lot in this match. Alkmaar players made a total of 27 shots in this match. But their misfortune was that they lost the match despite attacking a lot. Alkmaar lost but their performance was very good.
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