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sr. member
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Until 1.3.2, a physically compromised PC could extract the private key from a Trezor, if the owner happened to had the display turned off (or perhaps even with the display was turned on).  But that is good news for Trezor owners!  Tongue
Did you even bother to read the article?
Did you understand it?

Yes, did you?
hero member
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Until 1.3.2, a physically compromised PC could extract the private key from a Trezor, if the owner happened to had the display turned off (or perhaps even with the display was turned on).  But that is good news for Trezor owners!  Tongue
Did you even bother to read the article?
Did you understand it?
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Until 1.3.2, a physically compromised PC could extract the private key from a Trezor, if the owner happened to had the display turned off (or perhaps even with the display was turned on).  But that is good news for Trezor owners!  Tongue

Did you even bother to read the article?
hero member
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CTO, Ledger

Ahem.  Anyone remembers a guy who used to post warnings here about hypothetical physical attacks, and got called retard, paranoid, fudster, shill, and some nastier things?...

I believe this was caused by the endless FUD around possible interdiction of hardware wallets rather than the description of a well documented attack.

hero member
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Extracting the Private Key from a TREZOR... with a 70 $ Oscilloscope
http://johoe.mooo.com/trezor-power-analysis/

Ahem.  Anyone remembers a guy who used to post warnings here about hypothetical physical attacks, and got called retard, paranoid, fudster, shill, and some nastier things?...

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Nice to see people working on breaking the Trezor and making it stronger!

Until 1.3.2, a physically compromised PC could extract the private key from a Trezor, if the owner happened to had the display turned off (or perhaps even with the display was turned on).  But that is good news for Trezor owners!  Tongue
legendary
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I'm liking the new feature where the PIN is required to check balances. I wasn't completely comfortable before with anyone on my main machine being able to see my bitcoin balance of my Trezor.

One thing that could be done to make PIN input a little more secure would be to change the location of numbers after a single number has been entered. Currently, if someone has a live video feed on a computer where someone is signing into their Trezor, they would be able to see duplicate numbers in their PIN. My idea would protect users from this, as well as people looking over their shoulders. It's probably a little over the top for security but it's still a decent idea in my mind.
newbie
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Extracting the Private Key from a TREZOR... with a 70 $ Oscilloscope
http://johoe.mooo.com/trezor-power-analysis/

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Conclusion

Side channel attacks are not as difficult as many people think. A simple power analysis requires only a simple oscilloscope and that can hardly be called expensive laboratory equipment. You also need basic soldering skills and deep knowledge about the code that is running. It took only a single recording of the computation of the public key, to recover the private key. On the bright side, this simple side channel attack can be mitigated by using constant-time code and as I showed this code does not have to be slow.

The new firmware 1.3.3 is immune against this attack since it (1) requires a PIN to compute the public key and (2) uses branch-free computations for deriving the public key from the private key.

There is no complete protection against all kind of attacks. If your TREZOR gets stolen and it has no passphrase protection (or if the passphrase is weak), you should transfer the coins to a different wallet. There are other attack vectors like fault injection that could still be used and may get around the PIN protection. Basically, they use the fact that the microprocessor does unexpected things if power supply or the clock signal is broken. These are much more difficult to perform, but they are probably less expensive than using an electron microscope to read the seed from the chip. Also, there may be a bug in the microprocessor that allows for circumventing the read-out protection.


Nice to see people working on breaking the Trezor and making it stronger!


legendary
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Does anyone know a website that has integrated "sign in with trezor"? I would very much like to try it out.
legendary
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We have released firmware 1.3.3 with the TREZOR Connect for passwordless login to websites and apps.
 
Read more here http://satoshilabs.com/news/2015-04-07-trezor-firmware-1-3-3-connect-api/ and don't forget to update your firmware.
Very cool stuff !  Two thumbs up !
hero member
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If you are not paying for the service, you are the market the product, not the customer.
cor
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Are there any privacy concerns with using the Trezor for signing into websites? Is master public key shared or info that can link bitcoin addresses with identities? Does each website use it's own private key/public key for authentication? 
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shortly:

no
no
yes
newbie
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Are there any privacy concerns with using the Trezor for signing into websites? Is master public key shared or info that can link bitcoin addresses with identities? Does each website use it's own private key/public key for authentication? 
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legendary
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buytrezor.com doesn't have a "sign in with trezor" option? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Because most people who shop there don't own a Trezor yet most likely.
legendary
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buytrezor.com doesn't have a "sign in with trezor" option? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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Any plans to support this:

https://bitcoinarmory.com/verisign-discusses-collaboration-with-armory-to-secure-payment-addresses/

It's quite new, but it sounds like a credible improvement to BIP70

i too would like to see full scale Armory integration.

I believe I'm right in thinking that this DNSSEC stuff would need implementing as a firmware update, so Satoshi Labs can comment meaningfully on that. And this domain/address resolution system functions independently of allowing Trezors to be used with the Armory client. The latter work is definitely something Armory devs will need to do, the new wallet format will likely be a pretty sophisticated (read bespoke) version of BIP32
legendary
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Any plans to support this:

https://bitcoinarmory.com/verisign-discusses-collaboration-with-armory-to-secure-payment-addresses/

It's quite new, but it sounds like a credible improvement to BIP70

i too would like to see full scale Armory integration.
legendary
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Any plans to support this:

https://bitcoinarmory.com/verisign-discusses-collaboration-with-armory-to-secure-payment-addresses/

It's quite new, but it sounds like a credible improvement to BIP70
sr. member
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We have released firmware 1.3.3 with the TREZOR Connect for passwordless login to websites and apps.
 
Read more here http://satoshilabs.com/news/2015-04-07-trezor-firmware-1-3-3-connect-api/ and don't forget to update your firmware.



You guys are effing brilliant. This is a game changer in secure challenge/response authentication.
newbie
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Im going to try the firm update and see how my trezor works.
legendary
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When will we be able to see pics on the device when it is idle?
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