[ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet - page 84.

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Quote from: grau on January 27, 2015, 01:01:52 PM

You likely noticed significant improvement of performce while myTREZOR retrieves balances.
The reason is an upgrade of the back end. Have fun.

The speed wasn't the biggest problem, the fact that it almost never worked when needed however was.

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Quote from: grau on January 27, 2015, 01:01:52 PM

You likely noticed significant improvement of performce while myTREZOR retrieves balances.
The reason is an upgrade of the back end. Have fun.

TY very much!

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bits of proof

You likely noticed significant improvement of performce while myTREZOR retrieves balances.
The reason is an upgrade of the back end. Have fun.

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Quote from: camolist on January 26, 2015, 10:06:41 PM

i had a trezor for a few weeks before the provided lanyard broke off at the plastic lip on the trezor
no idea where it ended up.. retraced my steps for the few hours before it went missing but it was no where to be found
seems like a factory defect if the provided lanyard breaks just having it on a ring with a vehicle and house key
if it is not meant to be used as a lanyard that clip on the trezor and the lanyard should not be provided or it should be admitted that this was a defect
wish i had bought it on amazon not bitcoin as my bank would easily side with me on a refund or replacement Roll Eyes

Lets say there have been 5000 units sold, I recall seeing only 1 report of a broken trezor pin that holds the lanyard
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9599519

And maybe 1-2 earlier reports of the actual lanyard itself breaking

Quote from: camolist on January 26, 2015, 10:06:41 PM

talked to support and was basically told tough luck buy another one (i have the backup key but it seems having another trezor is the only way to recover coins from the seed)

You can restore your bitcoin manually with a BIP32/39/44 compatible wallet or script, (and if you have no passphrase on your account(s) you can also restore your mnemonic onto a btchip HW1/Ledger nano for use with with electrum 2 (provided you can clone it yourself from github, and install cython/pyusb etc)

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Quote from: camolist on January 26, 2015, 10:06:41 PM

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talked to support and was basically told tough luck buy another one (i have the backup key but it seems having another trezor is the only way to recover coins from the seed)
[...]

IIRC it was mentioned that you can restore using http://bip32.org/ (save the HTML and use it on a offline computer).

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i had a trezor for a few weeks before the provided lanyard broke off at the plastic lip on the trezor

no idea where it ended up.. retraced my steps for the few hours before it went missing but it was no where to be found

talked to support and was basically told tough luck buy another one (i have the backup key but it seems having another trezor is the only way to recover coins from the seed)

seems like a factory defect if the provided lanyard breaks just having it on a ring with a vehicle and house key

if it is not meant to be used as a lanyard that clip on the trezor and the lanyard should not be provided or it should be admitted that this was a defect

wish i had bought it on amazon not bitcoin as my bank would easily side with me on a refund or replacement Roll Eyes

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NOTICE: Amazon Fulfillment of TREZOR Orders May Be Impacted by Winter Storm Juno.

We are currently experiencing severe weather that may impact the delivery time of TREZORs in the US northeast.

Rest assured that as highways and roads are cleared deliveries will resume normally.

If you have any questions, please contact us here: http://www.coincadence.com/contact/

Or if you have already placed an order please contact Amazon support with any questions:

Amazon.com Customer Service can be reached through the Contact Us link found on any Amazon.com Help page:
http://www.amazon.com/contact-us/

Here are the TREZOR via Amazon customer service phone numbers:

— U.S. and Canada: 1-866-216-1072
— International: 1-206-266-2992

They are available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

To order your TREZOR with Fulfillment by Amazon visit: http://www.amazon.com/shops/CoinCadence

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Quote from: molecular on January 26, 2015, 06:38:30 PM

Yes, reusing the vendor code is maybe not the best behaviour (and likely against some rules), but it doesn't constitute counterfeiting imo.

It is obviously not intentional counterfeiting, but the comments on that reddit thread seemed to imply that it would be such in the eyes of the US or European law. If so, that might cause problems with customs, maybe. I don t know.

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Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 26, 2015, 05:08:51 AM

Quote from: molecular on January 26, 2015, 04:51:09 AM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 25, 2015, 01:39:33 PM

There is already a Chinese clone that copied everything verbatim, including their USB vendor code (which is said to make the product a counterfeit merchandise).

Link Please.
(Sorry to feed the troll)

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t8ppe/now_you_can_buy_a_trezorlike_hardware_wallet_in/
You are welcome.

Thanks.

They used a lot of trezor code, yes. That's totally legitimate afaict. Hardly would call that a counterfeit, especially because the casing looks hardly like the trezor.

Yes, reusing the vendor code is maybe not the best behaviour (and likely against some rules), but it doesn't constitute counterfeiting imo.

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Quote from: molecular on January 26, 2015, 04:51:09 AM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 25, 2015, 01:39:33 PM

There is already a Chinese clone that copied everything verbatim, including their USB vendor code (which is said to make the product a counterfeit merchandise).

Link Please.
(Sorry to feed the troll)

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t8ppe/now_you_can_buy_a_trezorlike_hardware_wallet_in/
You are welcome.

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

Trezor should make a deal with Coinbase for a security key and hardware wallet that can be discounted for Coinbase verified customers.

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Quote from: JorgeStolfi on January 25, 2015, 01:39:33 PM

Quote from: Erdogan on January 25, 2015, 06:10:27 AM

They took great risk in building it and make both hardware and software open source. A competitor can create a clone very easily now, the only thing they don't have is the name and reputation.

There is already a Chinese clone that copied everything verbatim, including their USB vendor code (which is said to make the product a counterfeit merchandise).

Link Please.

(Sorry to feed the troll)

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Quote from: Erdogan on January 25, 2015, 06:10:27 AM

Quote from: grendel25 on January 25, 2015, 01:45:04 AM

I'm still trying to understand the Trezor. My main conflict is with the price. And then I'm also not sure of what it actually is. This thread indicates a hardware wallet but then in other description it's called a "safe".

So back to the price thing, I expect to pay upwards of $100 for a safe. I also expect a safe to weigh several hundreds of pounds... but that's another topic. So for a "wallet" I've never even bought one and if I did I don't think i'd pay more than 10-20 bucks.

So look, it's an awesome gadget. Security is a big deal with bitcoin. But am I just looking at the wrong thing? Is there a cost effective security solution for the average user?

Is there going to be a Trezor-lite? The Trezor looks really awesome and I'm glad to see it pioneering bitcoin security. Good luck. No offense intended here. Just trying to understand more options for making bitcoin easier to use and secure. Thanks

The price of the Trezor is the market price, luckily for you and everybody else, because that ensures that everyone can have one, if they want it sufficiently much.

The trezor team has made the best hardware wallet, the safest and easiest to use in a safe manner.

They took great risk in building it and make both hardware and software open source. A competitor can create a clone very easily now, the only thing they don't have is the name and reputation.

Your choice is easy, either use a software wallet that is capable of having offline keys and use a separate PC to run the offline part, fumbling with copying the transactions to and fro with a memory stick, or buy the trezor at the price it is offered for.

Yeah, I just don't think folks are seeing the big picture of mass adoption. Just needs to be perceived more in relative terms and I'm hopeful that someone will understand that. Maybe even the Trezor brand.

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Quote from: Erdogan on January 25, 2015, 06:10:27 AM

They took great risk in building it and make both hardware and software open source. A competitor can create a clone very easily now, the only thing they don't have is the name and reputation.

There is already a Chinese clone that copied everything verbatim, including their USB vendor code (which is said to make the product a counterfeit merchandise).

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Quote from: Mashuri on January 21, 2015, 01:31:07 PM

Do you have any suggestions for Android?

Sorry, I'm long out this market segment. I handed the project I was involved to the production people long time ago. I'd used commercial/for-pay software and hardware that I don't think is relevant anymore.

Two suggestions:

1) look not for "QR code reader" but for "image processing library/toolbox/toolkit".
2) if you use an open-source (or paid for closed-source) then getting the required FEC/payload ratio and S/N ratio is a quite simple modification. Few lines of code at the maximum. In my experience the difficult part is to understand the underlying concepts of forward-error-correction and channel noise and how they are used properly or misused (nefariously or due to lack of understanding).

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Quote from: grendel25 on January 25, 2015, 01:45:04 AM

I'm still trying to understand the Trezor. My main conflict is with the price. And then I'm also not sure of what it actually is. This thread indicates a hardware wallet but then in other description it's called a "safe".

So back to the price thing, I expect to pay upwards of $100 for a safe. I also expect a safe to weigh several hundreds of pounds... but that's another topic. So for a "wallet" I've never even bought one and if I did I don't think i'd pay more than 10-20 bucks.

So look, it's an awesome gadget. Security is a big deal with bitcoin. But am I just looking at the wrong thing? Is there a cost effective security solution for the average user?

Is there going to be a Trezor-lite? The Trezor looks really awesome and I'm glad to see it pioneering bitcoin security. Good luck. No offense intended here. Just trying to understand more options for making bitcoin easier to use and secure. Thanks

The price of the Trezor is the market price, luckily for you and everybody else, because that ensures that everyone can have one, if they want it sufficiently much.

The trezor team has made the best hardware wallet, the safest and easiest to use in a safe manner.

They took great risk in building it and make both hardware and software open source. A competitor can create a clone very easily now, the only thing they don't have is the name and reputation.

Your choice is easy, either use a software wallet that is capable of having offline keys and use a separate PC to run the offline part, fumbling with copying the transactions to and fro with a memory stick, or buy the trezor at the price it is offered for.

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Quote from: grendel25 on January 25, 2015, 01:45:04 AM

So back to the price thing, I expect to pay upwards of $100 for a safe. I also expect a safe to weigh several hundreds of pounds... but that's another topic. So for a "wallet" I've never even bought one and if I did I don't think i'd pay more than 10-20 bucks.

So look, it's an awesome gadget. Security is a big deal with bitcoin. But am I just looking at the wrong thing? Is there a cost effective security solution for the average user?

Is there going to be a Trezor-lite? The Trezor looks really awesome and I'm glad to see it pioneering bitcoin security. Good luck. No offense intended here. Just trying to understand more options for making bitcoin easier to use and secure. Thanks

This is a Bitcoin wallet and a "digital Bitcoin safe". When considering a real world, it's like a wallet. You can wear it in your pocket, it does not weight 100pounds or kilos. But in digital world, when connected to a computer, it should be as difficult to get inside as if it was a safe. Weight does not matter anymore, other things do...

Considering price, you might have heard that there are now Chinese who are selling a clone for 28$: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ti75t/only_28_to_buy_a_trezorlike_hardware_wallt/ Please note that Chinese cannot spell wallet in the reddit link so be cautious about buying one (especially when you don't speak or read Chinese).
The Satoshi Labs themselves declare the hardware cost as 19$ on the shipping package customs declaration and the remaining 100$ to be the software cost. Considering couple of people spend two years on development of the device and they sold "several thousands" of devices http://satoshilabs.com/news/2015-01-15-trezor-in-2014/ it seems to me that if several were 10 then this would be still way less then community spend here: http://fortune.com/2015/01/20/coinbase-raises-75-million-in-largest-ever-vc-round-for-bitcoin-company/ but Trezor being a much more important community effort since the security is the only thing preventing mass adoption.

Anyway, price will go down over the time. Maybe soon because of clones.

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I'm still trying to understand the Trezor. My main conflict is with the price. And then I'm also not sure of what it actually is. This thread indicates a hardware wallet but then in other description it's called a "safe".

So back to the price thing, I expect to pay upwards of $100 for a safe. I also expect a safe to weigh several hundreds of pounds... but that's another topic. So for a "wallet" I've never even bought one and if I did I don't think i'd pay more than 10-20 bucks.

So look, it's an awesome gadget. Security is a big deal with bitcoin. But am I just looking at the wrong thing? Is there a cost effective security solution for the average user?

Is there going to be a Trezor-lite? The Trezor looks really awesome and I'm glad to see it pioneering bitcoin security. Good luck. No offense intended here. Just trying to understand more options for making bitcoin easier to use and secure. Thanks

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Move On !!!!!!

Quote from: Mickeyb on January 24, 2015, 05:57:12 AM

Last 2 days I am constantly getting USB device not recognized on my trezor. Anybody knows why?

Thanks

Nevermind, problem was a usb cable! It works now!

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Move On !!!!!!

Last 2 days I am constantly getting USB device not recognized on my trezor. Anybody knows why?

Thanks

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