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Quote from: summonerrk on September 21, 2024, 05:47:04 AM

[Question: "Is there a chance that Team Spirit will stay with the same roster?"]
I don't think there is a chance. I think there will be an announcement of the new roster soon.

It turns out that Spirit will continue to play and earn money, but for now with new members instead of Mira and Yatoro. And the guys themselves will train independently. This is strange. This is not a disband, but how do they expect to achieve progress if some participate in the pro scene, and others play somewhere independently? Yes, this will lead to Spirit having a second lineup, but the main thing is that it does not lead to a split in the main part of the team.

Team Spirit has already applied for the following tournaments, which means they will definitely participate with some roster.
I'm sad to see the news you wrote, it's sad. I love watching Team Spirit's vlogs, they are great, kind guys, and when they play, it feels like good friends in a relaxed mood just playing public matches.

I'm not sure I'll be able to perceive them as warmly if they replace their Carry. I hope they return to their number two roster as soon as possible.

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Quote from: rdbase on September 22, 2024, 06:06:31 AM

So for the sake of @CLS63 making his arrival into the thread, I will be rooting for his home countries side today.
And if they win will be playing this on loop for the rest of the day:
The Kiffness - Ievan Polkka ft. Bilal Göregen - Club Remix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAyWN9ba9J8

Because it will be just an amazing achievement for Turkish CS and it will be a party in the streets if they happen to manage to pull this one off.
Also ralle14 giving Na'Vi -1.5 maps means his confidence level in them winning this Grand Finals is nearly 25% since he does see them grabbing atleast one map.

It was a great achievement for us to reach the grand final but we couldn't make it to the trophy at the end. Sad

I couldn't watch it but according to what I heard, we fought really hard and lost only by 3-2. It is sad to hear that we couldn't take advantage of Natus Vincere's mistakes because they say we also messed up in some important parts of the games. It is still a great success for our country in this sport.

I hope we can do even better in upcoming tournaments.

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Quote from: ralle14 on September 22, 2024, 06:57:38 PM

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On the other hand, OG has announced its roster for Dota 2. Good to see that Nine is back in action, I remember him lastly played with the Tundra.

Their new roster looks great, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out because Nine back then had the least networth out of the three cores when he was still with Tundra.

I agree. And why he became notable was because he plays some odd heroes on the mid lane. So, let's see how this is going to be with OG since it's composed of other regional players from SEA as well with 23savage.

BB Dacha tournament now on SEA and I'd bet for one game and maybe I'd do some for other regions later. The game starts in a few minutes.

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 22, 2024, 04:55:26 PM

On the other hand, OG has announced its roster for Dota 2. Good to see that Nine is back in action, I remember him lastly played with the Tundra.

Their new roster looks great, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out because Nine back then had the least networth out of the three cores when he was still with Tundra.

Quote from: boltz on September 22, 2024, 05:01:36 PM

It was a NAVI show today but mega respect for Eternal Fire for reaching finals but also taking 2 maps away from Navi as that is something impressive during the fact that Navi is having their best performances in last couple of years.

NaVi had some crazy individual plays that kept them alive while Eternal Fire fumbled a lot of man advantages, and I agree we still have to give props to Eternal Fire for pushing this series to the distance because I expected a clean 3-0 or 3-1 for NaVi.

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Quote from: boltz on September 22, 2024, 05:01:36 PM

It was a NAVI show today but mega respect for Eternal Fire for reaching finals but also taking 2 maps away from Navi as that is something impressive during the fact that Navi is having their best performances in last couple of years.

Also the winner took home 170k$ which is pretty much but not even close compared to Dota 2 prizes. Second place by Eternal Fire got around 70k$ which is a big deal for their esports team as those money can help a lot small teams.

I don't follow cs matches as closely as I used to. Cs tournaments but I watched the final today. EF had a better tournament than ever. They advanced to the final and I felt obliged to watch. They started the series well, the Nuke map was won. Then we lost very close on Anubis, the map that was EF's choice, 13-11, we lost 13-11 in Ancient.

So the maps that were lost were always close, it was a bit sad that it was like this. Eternal fire has now proven that it is at this level, it will be easier for EF to get here in the upcoming tournaments.

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It was a NAVI show today but mega respect for Eternal Fire for reaching finals but also taking 2 maps away from Navi as that is something impressive during the fact that Navi is having their best performances in last couple of years.

Also the winner took home 170k$ which is pretty much but not even close compared to Dota 2 prizes. Second place by Eternal Fire got around 70k$ which is a big deal for their esports team as those money can help a lot small teams.

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Quote from: rdbase on September 22, 2024, 06:06:31 AM

I think Navi are 4-0 against Eternal Fire so yes your prediction would have the advantage of coming true today.
But then again it is CS, so anything can happen and more of the time than not, actually does.

Congratulations to all who have bet for NaVi, they are the champions for this ESL Pro League S20. I was so tired today that I missed betting on them. But it's a good match against Eternal Fire and to those that have bet for Eternal Fire, better luck next time. They also did well on this grand finals. So the champions up to 8th placer for this ESL Pro, aside from the prize money, they also have blast premier points.

On the other hand, OG has announced its roster for Dota 2. Good to see that Nine is back in action, I remember him lastly played with the Tundra.

Source: https://x.com/OGesports/status/1837892348002423125

Aurora Esports also have announced their roster.

Source: Aurora Dota 2 - social media accounts

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Quote from: boltz on September 21, 2024, 05:21:40 PM

NaVi vs Eternal Fire in the grand finals tomorrow at CS2 and I'm personally cheering for EF to win and actually make a big surprise because no one really expected EF to reach finals and I think no one really expects them to win.
Reminder that Eternal Fire had to beat MIBR before reaching finals and NaVi had a game with their old rival team of G2 where they managed to beat them 2-1 after a very solid performance from G2 in first 2 maps.

Woke up early just so I wouldn't miss it. But then once seeing the start of the grand finals isn't until later this morning, decided to see if there was any talk about it up on here.
Glad I did so could see those who are amazed at what EF has done in their CS2 game-play so far in the year.
Yes, G2 always seem to fail against Navi in these tournaments.

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Quote from: ralle14 on September 21, 2024, 09:23:15 PM

I also didn't expect Eternal Fire to make it this far because no one expected Team Vitality to underperform in the quarterfinals while NaVi had to face two good teams and still look dominant.
It'd be cool to see Eternal Fire lift the trophy, but I doubt NaVi would let that happen after losing 3-1 against Team Vitality in the recent IEM Cologne grand final.
I've got the -1.5 map handicap for NaVi to play it safe, I still see Eternal Fire getting a map win in Inferno or Anubis.

I think Navi are 4-0 against Eternal Fire so yes your prediction would have the advantage of coming true today.
But then again it is CS, so anything can happen and more of the time than not, actually does.

So for the sake of @CLS63 making his arrival into the thread, I will be rooting for his home countries side today.
And if they win will be playing this on loop for the rest of the day:
The Kiffness - Ievan Polkka ft. Bilal Göregen - Club Remix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAyWN9ba9J8

Because it will be just an amazing achievement for Turkish CS and it will be a party in the streets if they happen to manage to pull this one off.
Also ralle14 giving Na'Vi -1.5 maps means his confidence level in them winning this Grand Finals is nearly 25% since he does see them grabbing atleast one map.

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Quote from: summonerrk on September 21, 2024, 05:47:04 AM

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I was more surprised that two players from the Spirit team were frozen - Mira and Raddan.

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Team Spirit has released an official statement: Ilya Yatoro (Raddan) Mularchuk and Miroslav Mira Kolpakov are taking a break from their professional careers and leaving the main Dota 2 roster.

As far as I know, Mira has not commented on this situation yet. But Yatoro said that he wants to take a break from the game. However, the statement above does not mean the end of their career. It seems that the guys just need to rethink their personal moments in the game.

I will really look forward to seeing them at the next International and hope that they will once again roll over everyone like a skating rink and show incredible play.

I have read the statement of Raddan and he's exhausted after this TI. And that's because despite with all the preparation that he has made, he seem uneffective and uncontent with the result that they have for this TI. Yeah, no comment yet for Mira but these pro players really need to take a break and there are some other players too that decided to take a break like K1 Hector too.

Source: https://x.com/heroicdota2/status/1837159804654985522

Whilst for Team Aurora, I don't understand why they have hired kiyotaka as a streamer and not to their main roster.

I was very upset by Yatoro's statement he made two hours ago.

[Question: "Is there a chance that Team Spirit will stay with the same roster?"]
I don't think there is a chance. I think there will be an announcement of the new roster soon.

It turns out that Spirit will continue to play and earn money, but for now with new members instead of Mira and Yatoro. And the guys themselves will train independently. This is strange. This is not a disband, but how do they expect to achieve progress if some participate in the pro scene, and others play somewhere independently? Yes, this will lead to Spirit having a second lineup, but the main thing is that it does not lead to a split in the main part of the team.

What you do mean about independently making up some training? If they wont really be making up some team training then how they would be able to create or enhance their teamwork and harmony?
It would really be just that too hard if they would really be trying out to split up or making up some new roster in between major or TI line up on which this is really that something which isnt i do see for it
to be effective, or this one shows up some possible part ways? Actually the thing i do see on last or recent TS performance that they dont have that aggressiveness plus having those good counter picks
and with the executions been made or they had just that become too confident?

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Quote from: boltz on September 21, 2024, 05:21:40 PM

NaVi vs Eternal Fire in the grand finals tomorrow at CS2 and I'm personally cheering for EF to win and actually make a big surprise because no one really expected EF to reach finals and I think no one really expects them to win.

Reminder that Eternal Fire had to beat MIBR before reaching finals and NaVi had a game with their old rival team of G2 where they managed to beat them 2-1 after a very solid performance from G2 in first 2 maps. Grin

I also didn't expect Eternal Fire to make it this far because no one expected Team Vitality to underperform in the quarterfinals while NaVi had to face two good teams and still look dominant.

It'd be cool to see Eternal Fire lift the trophy, but I doubt NaVi would let that happen after losing 3-1 against Team Vitality in the recent IEM Cologne grand final.

I've got the -1.5 map handicap for NaVi to play it safe, I still see Eternal Fire getting a map win in Inferno or Anubis.

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NaVi vs Eternal Fire in the grand finals tomorrow at CS2 and I'm personally cheering for EF to win and actually make a big surprise because no one really expected EF to reach finals and I think no one really expects them to win.

Reminder that Eternal Fire had to beat MIBR before reaching finals and NaVi had a game with their old rival team of G2 where they managed to beat them 2-1 after a very solid performance from G2 in first 2 maps. Grin

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Quote from: ralle14 on September 20, 2024, 11:00:15 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on September 20, 2024, 04:07:08 PM

Whilst for Team Aurora, I don't understand why they have hired kiyotaka as a streamer and not to their main roster.

Source: https://x.com/AuroraDota2_GG/status/1837086932997685430

With the closed qualifiers only a week away, he could be their new mid player, and if not, maybe Abed will take the role. I remember seeing their teaser post about a pair of boxing gloves. Tongue

Haha, that's the clue, a boxer and Abed punched Gabbi.

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And Blacklist International has already disbanded and given up their dota 2 roster:

I wonder what they're going to do with their slot in the PGL Wallachia since Tims and Mac is already on Boom Esports.

It sucks to see Blacklist International move away from the Dota scene, but it's understandable after spending way too much on their Dota roster.

About their situation in the PGL tournament, they could find some replacements, the rulebook mentions up to three players, and if they can't then the only choice is to withdraw.

I've heard rumors about these teams buying slots from tournaments like this and that's possible to happen but they'd only do that under the table. If another organization will adopt at least three of their players and will just name them with a new team name, I think that will be fine for the organizations but let's see how's the development of their slot there.

Quote from: bubilas on September 21, 2024, 04:47:41 AM

That's exactly it, and the meta that pro players set is always an indicator for pubs of how exactly to play heroes. Even if weak players often don't understand how exactly, they try to imitate pro players.
At the same time, often because of this, they play not as effectively as they would have played if they had taken their favorite heroes and played based on their personal, albeit not very experienced understanding. And it's funny.

I am one of the weak players that do copy them but when I am unsure if I'll be able to, I stop it when I can see it on myself that it won't for my gameplay.

Quote from: summonerrk on September 21, 2024, 05:47:04 AM

I was very upset by Yatoro's statement he made two hours ago.

[Question: "Is there a chance that Team Spirit will stay with the same roster?"]
I don't think there is a chance. I think there will be an announcement of the new roster soon.

It turns out that Spirit will continue to play and earn money, but for now with new members instead of Mira and Yatoro. And the guys themselves will train independently. This is strange. This is not a disband, but how do they expect to achieve progress if some participate in the pro scene, and others play somewhere independently? Yes, this will lead to Spirit having a second lineup, but the main thing is that it does not lead to a split in the main part of the team.

To be honest, I thought that it is going to be larl that will be taking a break but he's still young and can continue on with his pro career. I understand mira and yatoro, it's totally draining that every tournament that they participate they're giving their best and they've done well enough for their careers and achieved a lot. I think that they're the team that has got the highest prize pool for the TI that they've won the aegis. AFAIK, there's a second line up of Team Spirit and that might be the source for replacing these two.

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^^
Always great to hear a Turkish based team making it on to one of the biggest tournaments in CounterStirke.
Before you mentioned it @CLS63
I wouldn't have know they were considered one. As I never really focused on who consisted of their roster before.
Since they were always considered as one of those teams who made it to the semis but never advanced from there.
So they just seemed to linger on in the background while the more well known teams such as those Brazilian teams were taking the spotlight.

Facing either G2 or Navi?
Those are both champions of so many majors so Eternal Fire will have their work cut out for them for sure!

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I'm really happy to hear about Eternal Fire reaching the grand final in the ESL Pro League tournament. This is really the biggest stage a Turkish team have ever reached in CS history.

When I heard about the huge win against Vitality I couldn't believe my ears. I was sometimes checking out what our representative was doing in CS tournaments. I saw Vitality were really strong. First we defeated them with an epic performance and after we won against MIBR in the semi finals. Now we are waiting for our opponent. It is going to be G2 or Natus Vincere. I would prefer G2 as we don't have a good history against Natus Vincere. Tongue

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 20, 2024, 04:07:08 PM

Quote from: summonerrk on September 20, 2024, 06:11:21 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on September 20, 2024, 12:06:38 AM

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I was more surprised that two players from the Spirit team were frozen - Mira and Raddan.

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Team Spirit has released an official statement: Ilya Yatoro (Raddan) Mularchuk and Miroslav Mira Kolpakov are taking a break from their professional careers and leaving the main Dota 2 roster.

As far as I know, Mira has not commented on this situation yet. But Yatoro said that he wants to take a break from the game. However, the statement above does not mean the end of their career. It seems that the guys just need to rethink their personal moments in the game.

I will really look forward to seeing them at the next International and hope that they will once again roll over everyone like a skating rink and show incredible play.

I have read the statement of Raddan and he's exhausted after this TI. And that's because despite with all the preparation that he has made, he seem uneffective and uncontent with the result that they have for this TI. Yeah, no comment yet for Mira but these pro players really need to take a break and there are some other players too that decided to take a break like K1 Hector too.

Source: https://x.com/heroicdota2/status/1837159804654985522

Whilst for Team Aurora, I don't understand why they have hired kiyotaka as a streamer and not to their main roster.

I was very upset by Yatoro's statement he made two hours ago.

[Question: "Is there a chance that Team Spirit will stay with the same roster?"]
I don't think there is a chance. I think there will be an announcement of the new roster soon.

It turns out that Spirit will continue to play and earn money, but for now with new members instead of Mira and Yatoro. And the guys themselves will train independently. This is strange. This is not a disband, but how do they expect to achieve progress if some participate in the pro scene, and others play somewhere independently? Yes, this will lead to Spirit having a second lineup, but the main thing is that it does not lead to a split in the main part of the team.

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Yeah, he seems overpowered with all of those skills. But I think that he's still in the beta phase and there will be more development and balances that shall be done to make it fair to all. I'm excited to see how the pros are going to play him in the tournaments. For now, while waiting for the upcoming big majors, we've got the small ones and this is the phase where we can see some aspiring tier 2-3 teams and the reshuffle of the tier 1 teams is about to happen. Despite that RingMaster is being played as a support for now, I think the pro players will have to make something out of it or can do it as a mid or offlane hero, I don't know as long as it can work it won't be a dumb position to play for.

Yes, I am also waiting for him to appear on the pro scene. I really want to see what the pro players will come up with with him. He is interesting and versatile. And we all saw how the pros played the support Sniper (!), the country of Kerry and the like at the International. They have their own view, and we can only be surprised at their ingenuity. Well, the horizontal bar when they allow him to choose in professional matches will definitely be funny.

That's what meta is all about, the pro players are setting it and the pubs and most of the players are just following whatever they invent to have on the current meta. At the same time, there are pro players that are also discovering new strategies from the pubs that they think are brilliant to apply in the pro scene. I'm also excited how they're going to do but for the meantime, I love watching all of those ringmater pub games and how it's played mostly as a support.

That's exactly it, and the meta that pro players set is always an indicator for pubs of how exactly to play heroes. Even if weak players often don't understand how exactly, they try to imitate pro players.
At the same time, often because of this, they play not as effectively as they would have played if they had taken their favorite heroes and played based on their personal, albeit not very experienced understanding. And it's funny.

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 20, 2024, 04:07:08 PM

Whilst for Team Aurora, I don't understand why they have hired kiyotaka as a streamer and not to their main roster.

Source: https://x.com/AuroraDota2_GG/status/1837086932997685430

With the closed qualifiers only a week away, he could be their new mid player, and if not, maybe Abed will take the role. I remember seeing their teaser post about a pair of boxing gloves. Tongue

Quote from: passwordnow on September 20, 2024, 12:06:38 AM

And Blacklist International has already disbanded and given up their dota 2 roster:

I wonder what they're going to do with their slot in the PGL Wallachia since Tims and Mac is already on Boom Esports.

It sucks to see Blacklist International move away from the Dota scene, but it's understandable after spending way too much on their Dota roster.

About their situation in the PGL tournament, they could find some replacements, the rulebook mentions up to three players, and if they can't then the only choice is to withdraw.

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Quote from: summonerrk on September 20, 2024, 06:11:21 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on September 20, 2024, 12:06:38 AM

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I was more surprised that two players from the Spirit team were frozen - Mira and Raddan.

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Team Spirit has released an official statement: Ilya Yatoro (Raddan) Mularchuk and Miroslav Mira Kolpakov are taking a break from their professional careers and leaving the main Dota 2 roster.

As far as I know, Mira has not commented on this situation yet. But Yatoro said that he wants to take a break from the game. However, the statement above does not mean the end of their career. It seems that the guys just need to rethink their personal moments in the game.

I will really look forward to seeing them at the next International and hope that they will once again roll over everyone like a skating rink and show incredible play.

I have read the statement of Raddan and he's exhausted after this TI. And that's because despite with all the preparation that he has made, he seem uneffective and uncontent with the result that they have for this TI. Yeah, no comment yet for Mira but these pro players really need to take a break and there are some other players too that decided to take a break like K1 Hector too.

Source: https://x.com/heroicdota2/status/1837159804654985522

Whilst for Team Aurora, I don't understand why they have hired kiyotaka as a streamer and not to their main roster.

Source: https://x.com/AuroraDota2_GG/status/1837086932997685430

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 20, 2024, 12:06:38 AM

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I was more surprised that two players from the Spirit team were frozen - Mira and Raddan.

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Team Spirit has released an official statement: Ilya Yatoro (Raddan) Mularchuk and Miroslav Mira Kolpakov are taking a break from their professional careers and leaving the main Dota 2 roster.

As far as I know, Mira has not commented on this situation yet. But Yatoro said that he wants to take a break from the game. However, the statement above does not mean the end of their career. It seems that the guys just need to rethink their personal moments in the game.

I will really look forward to seeing them at the next International and hope that they will once again roll over everyone like a skating rink and show incredible play.

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Alright, some roster changes in here. First, Nigma has already announced its main roster. While they're packed with superstars and oldies, I don't think that they'll make it that far but let's give a time for them because most of the haters said that it was Kuroky who's the weakest link of the team and now he's moved away from the roster, hopefully they will do good for this season.

Their new roster could be the second-best team in EMEA now that noob is on their team and Quest could be having a downgrade. We still don't know how good his transition would be from mid to offlane, but on paper, they should have a higher chance of qualifying in some of the upcoming tournaments.

I'm also waiting for the new roster of Quest since they have a huge backing from PSG. This new line up of Nigma is promising but let's see how sumail and miracle will be able to adjust while gh going 5 is not a problem at all.

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Talon Esports took Kuku as their stand-in position 5.

He'll probably be their new position 5 since Talon already has some of the best core players and is dominating the recent SEA qualifier.

That's how it goes for most standins but it could be a different case when Talon don't find any success with him. Still, there are a lot of SEA teams are going to accept him for sure.

And Blacklist International has already disbanded and given up their dota 2 roster:

Source: https://x.com/BLACKLISTINTL/status/1836269421020807582/photo/1

I wonder what they're going to do with their slot in the PGL Wallachia since Tims and Mac is already on Boom Esports.

And speaking of Boom Esports, this is their new roster. While the legendary Mushi is their coach.

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