Topic: Esports Prediction & Discussion Thread - page 113. (Read 77168 times)

I think when OG released Ammar, the adjustment was different. Look at Nigma, the transition was so quick and Sumail said that he's become flexible on his team and he's happy with that motion that's happening in that type of setup. It's true that OG needs to at least rebump what they've got and they are on the verge of losing this dpc season and get nothing from it. The spot might be better for another division 2 team and they just need to swap places and I agree with DTB that they might need to get to division 2 and extract all things needed to be done for them to get back stronger.

I had high hopes for Cloud9 given that two of them are in the top 20 players of 2022. Well, ax1le did perform well and sh1ro is kinda 50-50. They tried, but FaZe is just on another level this tournament and they really are deserving of the title of champions for ESL Pro League. I expected more, but that's the only shot they have. Was a bit short but hey, at least they managed to get into the finals compared to G2, one of the tournament favorites, that got dropped 2-0 by ENCE.

In the Faze-cloud9 match, Faze was the winner. Faze won 3-1 and became the esl pro league champion.If we look at the scores of the players in the team, we see that other players except karrigan got close kills.They all averaged 80 kills and put forward a good team game.Karrigan is not expected to get more kills, so I take it normal.He is really a good igl and shows it every time.In Cloud9, we see that ax1le and hobbit stand out in terms of score.I see that nafany and buster played badly.We can say that the Faze team deserved the match and won.

I don't think it's about the patch as some of the teams already showed the effectiveness of some heroes after receiving certain nerfs. IMO it's simply the players underperforming individually because it's always punishing for the supports no matter how good they are when the cores can't put up a similar performance and the cores can easily offset that issue if it's just the supports but the bad part is that it's the whole team.

Also, the grand finals matchup on the ESL Pro League will be fun to watch, I want Cloud9 to win as I think they should be the favorites when they got better form compared to Faze but this bo5 format favors Faze with their wider map pool.

That would have been insane if OG won and now Im actually confident to take Nigma -1.5 against OG considering how bad OG currently is, I havent check the odds yet but I think it would atleast 2.5. Anyway, imagine if OG ended up in 2nd division then Old G got into 1st division, that would be insane although both are not actually affiliated.

For sure they have some things going on in the sidelines. They still are coached under Ceb albeit the dude not really a part of OG. They are still receiving some bits and pieces and for sure they're trying to make that work, but obviously it isn't amounting to anything. Yuragi and bzm used to be a deadly force that everyone respected, but it seems that they have taken it on the mellow side of things and are not performing like they used to.

In the last map, faze won and was paired with c9 in the final. If we look at the performances on the last map, the mirage map, I see that all players in the faze team except karrigan got over 20 kills. This shows that karrigan is actually a good igl. She manages the team well. It is not very important to get kills. Faze played well as a team and they won. In general, the prominent players of the teams were twistzz and s1mple. Even though Karrigan is behind all players in kills, he manages the team well.

I think the same and lately OG performances are really medium compared to last seasons of DPC or even last Majors so I do think there are changes inside the org that somehow affects the team or it could be just a coincidence and this patch simply don't fit them but I highly doubt it. Why ? well , OG are well know in Dota 2 scene for making quick adjustments and adapt for new patches. We can also speculate that old G did a rupture because of this and started a new team to grind for the bottom and they are currently sitting in Div 2 that is about to start next week I think.

They have taken Faze to the third map. Faze is leading 10-5 in the first half of the third map. But those 5 rounds are good enough once NAVI gets to CT side of Mirage. I think they have a good chance to get to the finals.


They were better when ATF was still with them. And now, nothing seems to work for them. I do not know if they are just bad because of the current META or if they have to restructure again. Nothing seems to be working for them.


Yeah, ATF was too aggressive when he was with OG but at least it was working for them. Something must have changed within the organization because they are really playing very poorly this season.

Or are they even cooking at all? All I can see was this OG is just a bunch of kids that destined to be relegated on Division 2. Clearly Yuragi can’t carry the team while DM can’t do what ATF doing which is a secondary carry at all. The only player that performing well is BZM which do an amazing job but he alone can’t carry the team.

I don’t know what’s happening to Yuragi but he seems loss his confidence after multiple failure since ATF. Maybe ATF is the real carry of OG. There’s no way to recover this team unless Yuragi awaken on his deep sleep. This is not his original game during his initial sign up on OG.

It's 1-1 in the important match of the day.
The Faze-Navi match is played on the decider map to determine the winner. Both teams won the maps of their choice comfortably and the match was extended to map 3. We have to say that S1mple played well today. While his teammates could not pass the 30 kill threshold, s1mple became the star of the team again by getting 48 kills. In Faze, it should be mentioned that twistzz got 40 kills.

It seems like whatever they're cooking in OG doesn't really work. It has been quite some time since they had their restructuring, but it still isn't working well for them. Maybe they need to go to Div 2 first and do all the hard work, the grind, and the rest of strategizing in there before they can join some majors and be in the first division yet again. They're lacking in a lot of things right now and it's worrying considering that they were performing okay when Chu was coaching and Misha was playing.

Cloud9 managed to defeat their tough opponent ence. Ence eliminated vitality and g2 but couldn't eliminate cloud9. Ancient map was chosen by ence. Ence won the map he chose with a beautiful game. The second map was the overpass map chosen by cloud9. Playing ct side well, cloud9 turned the match and went to the decider map. On the decider map, cloud9 won and won the match. Nafany, ax1le and sh1ro got 65 kills. Interesting that all 3 players scored the same.

They officially disbanded the OG team in the series. In the second of the series, OG seemed to pick things up. They have made successful gangs many times in the Jungle, but the game has turned against them again. Monaspa were confident, they pushed too hard in the middle line, so Monaspa was able to get back into the game and quickly took control and finished.

OG underperforming

The 1.78 odd looks really clean For Team Liquid, I'll take that into consideration.

We are less than an hour away from the start of Cloud9-Ence. It's worth mentioning that Ence eliminated two favorites. Both against G2 and against Vitality they had a good win. For this reason, I honestly see ence as the favorite in this match. Cloud9 has young and talented players. Especially sh1ro and ax1le are the main ones carrying the team. But there is a clear performance increase in ence after the arrival of nertz. I think this performance increase will continue and they can eliminate C9.

The last 3 matches of the ESL Pro League Season 17 are happening this weekend, semi finals today and the grand final tomorrow. All of the matches are going to be a highlight and should attract a lot of new viewers after Counter Strike 2 has been announced this week. There is a huge hype for CSGO now as the game is going to transfer this summer to the new software. The complete overhaul of CSGO by Valve is going to make sure that it will remain as the number one competitive shooter for the next 5 years. The first match today is going to be Cloud9 vs ENCE, both teams are quite strong and the match could be going either way. On paper Cloud9 is the stronger team, but ENCE had to beat some strong teams like G2 to get to the finals. I think they can pull it off and reach the grand final, with the current odds it's a good bet. The second match is FaZe vs NaVi, which is going to be even closer than the first match. Both teams only lost one match during the Season, but NaVi had to crawl their way through the lower brackets, so they played much more games. The match is pretty close to a coin flip and could go both ways depending on the performance of s1mple and ropz. I am going with FaZe for the match, and the final will then be FaZe vs ENCE where FaZe is going to win the grand final.

Yeah it was crazy. 1v4 with 1hp and a pistol. Clean 1-tap on the last two. Wow.

Kinda impressed with NaVi's performance against Heroic last night. Too bad their bracket was so stacked, they have to face FaZe in the semis If they can beat FaZe, C9 or ENCE shouldn't be a problem.

What a surprising win from Monaspa and OG with a disappointing performance as now they're the only team with one series win and potentially become the first team to get relegated unless they somehow find their footing in the next few days and beat both Team Nigma and Entity.

This might be a good spot to fade OG in their last two series as Team Nigma looked decent this week and Entity's wins are convincing enough to put them above OG.

Also, the odds are good on Team Liquid beating Tundra as it's now hovering around 1.78, I think it should go down even further as I don't see Tundra winning this series after that sloppy loss against Ooredoo.

That would've been a good win if only OG delivered but I guess it's time to put them on the blacklist or fade them in their last two series.

I have to say that he threw a really incredible clutch. He did the impossible there.  Two headshots with 1 life was extraordinary. Maybe taking that round turned the match in favor of faze and they were able to win the map of their choice. Ropz already played outstanding with 33 kills.
NaVi-Heroic match was also a match that both sides could win. I was thinking that navi might be ahead because everyone started to play well individually. We can say that even npl improved himself in this tournament. We can see that NaVi was the better team. S1mple was the star of the team again.

Ropz now has a new million-dollar contract thanks to the clutch he got in the pistol round on the inferno map. Has anyone seen this round with two quick hs with 1 hp. But by the way, FORZE team put out a very good series, and they pushed FaZe quite a bit in this match. Thanks to the quality of FaZe Ropz's extra players, they were able to eliminate FORZE. I did not watch the Navi - Heroic match, but it was a result I expected.